I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Oh wow...congrats, Jancie!!  You're an eventer, correct?

Oh, jancie... geez... congrats, but I hope you can stick to dressage.  I can't imagine getting up the nerve to do eventing or cross-country (one is part of the other, isn't it? I don't remember).  Yes, the knockdown fences are bad enough, but even then the horse can get its legs banged up and the rider can get tossed.  Broken bones?  No way. I hope you get this horse/rider combo thing figured out so you can enter Jazzy in what she does best.

How does a billy goat pee on its beard?  I don't think I can describe it without using language that would violate the Rules of Conduct.  Let's see...  I guess the simplest way is to say that some male animals are "longer" than you might imagine.  Since things in that area point forward anyway, it's not a stretch for the flow to reach all the way to their front feet.  All they have to do is lower their heads between their front legs, and it's done.  What I can't imagine is why a male animal might think females would be attracted to this.

BTW, meat from adult goats is usually called "chevon".  Sheep meat is mutton, although I did find one website that said the term "mutton" is sometimes used for goat meat.  I think I had some chevon once, at a class picnic that included an open-pit barbecue of meat from all sorts of legally edible animals. I say "legally edible" because, of course, some types of animals cannot be consumed by people here in the U.S., even though they are popular in other equally-civilized countries. 

I am pretty sure they had some goat meat at the picnic. If they did, I'm sure I tasted it, because I have never been averse to trying new foods, especially after a few beers.  (This was decades before BC, so beer was okay.)  They were also supposed to have horsemeat (don't start throwing things), which was seldom sold in the U.S. even then but was legal to produce and consume.  (Now it isn't legal to slaughter horses for human consumption in the U.S.  It was back then, even though nearly all the horsemeat produced in the U.S. was shipped to Europe via Quebec.)  The market that had offered to provide the horsemeat backed out at the last minute because they didn't want any bad publicity.  So, I still don't know what horsemeat tastes like, although I've heard it tastes kind of sweet and is exceptionally lean.

Now that I've totally grossed everyone out, I'm going to sign off and go to bed.

otter

WR -- Yes, it is!  Thanks Otter!

So, goat meat = chevon

Goat's milk cheese = chevre

I've never eaten it, but I'm curious as to why horsemeat is verboten in North America.

When I lived in England, I taught English pronunciation to a couple of Philipino students who were taking their degree in Education at the local university.  Towards the end of the semester, the students brought in some cookbooks that they had brought from home. Leafing through, I noticed some recipes that included dog meat.  i asked them what it tasted like.  They replied "Have you ever had python?  It tastes alot like python".   Well, that cleared things up...not!

Thanks for the goat urination tutorial, Otter! I swear, we are all going to be a riot at dinner parties, with all the conversation fodder we pick up here!



I've had goat meat often; it's delicious, actually somewhat milder than lamb, I think. It's easy to find around here in Mexican, Arab and Indian markets. I've never cooked it myself, though.

I learn something new everytime I read this thread!

Good morning everyone!  It is another beautiful day here--hot and sunny.

I have started doing yoga again, and I have become addicted to hot yoga.  It is REALLY tough, but I feel great afterwards.  Has anyone here tried it?  I didn't think that I would like doing yoga in a room hot enough to cook food...lol

OK, what a way to wake up. Otter, thanks for the tutorial on goats. LMBO!!

Hot yoga? Never heard of it but am off to check it out.

Morning all. Hope everyone has a great day.

Good morning, all.

I must agree with Athena on "hot," although I'll skip the execution part.  I think it might be time to switch to iced coffee in the a.m.  Today in the DC metro area, breathing outside is like breathing warm soup.  Through a straw.  That is being pinched.  UGH.  And this isn't even the worst day, or the worst of today.  I love living here, but I have always hated the weather ... I have been hot for 32 years.

Love the goat education!  When I lived in South Asia, there were goats that roamed the streets of the large city in which I lived.  They had long, floppy ears and looked for all the world like little boys in those hats with ear flaps.  Their kids were adorable.  We lived in a walled compound, so they never came in our yard, but they were cute to look at.  I knew about the liking to be high (like beagles!), but not about the pee.  Ugh.  Interesting, but ugh.  Nannies are some strange creatures to be attracted to a billy that smells like pee ...

Eating goat.  When I lived in the Caribbean, one of the local delicacies was curried goat.  They just chopped up the goat, bones and all (they did skin it, so no hair).  I mostly ate around the solids and just used the curry sauce on rice.  Eating animals that looked like they were wearing floppy hats was not on my to-do list.  In South Asia, they did call goat "mutton," which was terribly confusing to me, as I had always understood mutton to be "mature" sheep (as opposed to lamb -- baby sheep).  I don't like eating sheep, either ... they always smell like fat wet wool when cooking.  Beef and chicken for me, but not much of either lately.

Happy Hot Day.  May you stay as cool and as comfortable as possible wherever you are placed in the inferno today.

L

Goats are sold for meat here to the various ethnic communities that consume them.  I have never eaten goat meat, have no desire.  I have had too many as companions for the horses to even consider it. It would be pretty easy for any billy goat to urinate on his beard.  Guess you have to be around them to understand, but they are pretty supple little creatures.  I had a client bring cookies and donuts to the barn many years back, and her daughter left her trunk open after bringing the boxes into the barn. When we went outside after the lesson, Leroy the goat was in her trunk eating whatever she had in there, including the rubber lining around the hatch.  I have had to feed them the equivalent of alka selzer when they got into something that did not agree with them, as they can bloat to an unbelievable level.  As adorable as goats can be, a lawn mover can be far less trouble, and you have the option of mowing around your flower beds, rather than watching said goat make dessert out of your daylilies.

I love lamb, not so much the mutton.  The flavor of the mutton is so strong, but there are many in Kentucky that can't wait for the mutton at the BBQ fests.  My ex had several sheep when I first met him, and I first thought, oh, who could eat those poor darling little lambs?  By the time you have spent several months wading through their muck to feed them, while they suck up so hard next to your legs that you can't move, while butting you and chewing on your clothes, you are quite happy to wave goodbye when they finally reach about 95 lbs.  Sheep are the most profit making livestock I have ever owned. Absolutely nothing goes to waste with a sheep.

Several years back, I can not tell you the exact year, I, along with many equine lovers, lobbied to have the production of horse meat for human consumption outlawed in this country.  I know Kentucky was very much involved in the passage of the bill to outlaw it.  Horses are such a part of my life it would be like cannabilism for me to consider eating le cheval.  I will leave that to the French!

Good luck at your horse show, Jancie!  Horses are such good therapy!

I do power yoga, classical hatha and ashtanga.  The ashtanga is the most difficult for me.  I also do restorative yoga on Wednesday evenings.  It is not done in a hot room, and it is all about stretching our muscles.  Since I have some hernated disks in my neck, this particular yoga really helps me.

HL, I also have had goat went I went to Jamaica.  I really liked it--then again, I like anything in a curry sauce. 

ETA: Barbara, you should try the hot yoga.  I think you'd like it.

Mary, can I get a CD to help me along? When I get up in the AM, my main level is hot so I could do it then.

Blue that would be 91, which is our high temp for today.

It is 32 in Montreal today--38 with humidity (100.4), so it is hot!  The forecast tomorrow is 44 (111 F) with the humidity!  Oh my! 

Barbara, I think that would be a great idea.  I am sure you can find a yoga CD.  You can then do it in the hottest room of your house.  Try to find a CD of a power yoga, not restorative yoga.

Blue...lol!  I agree that I prefer animal goats to human goats! 

ETA the weather in Farenheit 

You definitely are a tough cookie! (((Blue)))

BLUE--have you done the PT that incorporates BIG motions? I know there's a name for it. My local cancer rehab center also does work with PD patients, and I see them doing this from time to time when I'm there for Pilates.

GOATS--are now grazing the acres of Boulder Open Space, to rid us of our noxious weeds. Now, if they only ate prairie dogs...

FYI--so for my nudie photo for the cancer rehab clinic's calendar, I needed to come up with an inspirational or witty saying to add to my bio. I searched and searched, finding really serious stuff that didn't quite fit me. Then I stumbled again on Elizabeth's tag line. Perfect. So, that's with my photo, crediting her as Elizabeth Konacat.

Leaving hot CO tomorrow for hotter and humid MN. How did we ever live without A/C? I generally don't need it here (evening storms dropped the temp from 95 to 65 by bedtime. Sweet!) But in the south where I grew up? Or MN, where I spent my summers?? Can't handle that now, with the humidity. Ugh!