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  • FSUMOM2012
    FSUMOM2012 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2011

    FINALLY.... figured out how to post!  Laughing

    I had my 1st chemo tx on Tuesday, July 12 of Taxotere & Cytoxan. Started with 4 steroids day before, day of and day after. On day of appt, they started my out on Aloxi, an anti-nausea and then IV decadron (more steroids). Actually did well & went to the gym on Tues & Wed after infusion. Had Neulasta on Wed afternoon, still no problems... forced myself to go to work on Friday, and EVERYONE sent me home by noon! I ended up in ER with fever & excruciating pain. Again, I tried to go in to work late, and only lasted 3 hrs (it seemed like an ETERNITY). I went back home, slept it off and was able to return "stronger" for my 16hr shift in the ER today.  I am having occasional vision problems & horrible taste in my mouth but getting more manageble by the hour.  Im still dragging at times but definately feelling much better than Friday & Saturday. I need to realize that I CANT continue to be SUPERMOM and everything to everyone! Chemo is my KRYPTONITE and I need to take care of ME!!!!

  • ssmith37
    ssmith37 Member Posts: 65
    edited July 2011

    Kristien, I also have been having an issue with a rapid heartbeat.  I can feel it pounding in my back and under my ribs on the left side.  I have had issues with this all my life, so I was very afraid of having to have chemo.  But my echocardiogram said it was okay for me to go through it.  Did you have an echo before starting chemo?  My heart didn't start racing and pounding until well after my steroids were out of my system.  My first chemo treatment was on July 7, and I'd say my heart has been pounding for about the past 3-4 days.  I'm also doing DD ACx4.  My second treatment is this Thursday.  I still have hair, but wondering for how long. :)

    Here's wishing all of you free SE's and strength to get through another week!

  • shinypop
    shinypop Member Posts: 107
    edited July 2011

    Thanks bunches for the birthdays wishes. Had a lovely time at one of my favourite restaurants. Lucky that I can tastes stuff. SEs have been minimal this round. Easier than last time since I switched from compazine to zofran. Hope everyone has a very good week. No SEs daggonit!

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2011

    Valbee - I had a weird dream last night! LOL! I dreamt of a wasp the size of my fist and it seemed to just want to land on me! I could see its sting and I was so freaking out.  I was screaming for everyone's help to remove it from my head and finally when it was, I woke up!  

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited July 2011

    Stephanie, I am on FEC so not sure if it will be the same, but I started shedding like a dog on day 15 (my first chemo was June 29th)

    FSUMOM2012, slow down!!! Please be careful, you need to rest a lot more than it seems you are. I know some of us have to work, but you really should take it easy as much as possible. I noticed even after feeling close to normal, I can't do the things at the same pace, walks are shorter etc. It's so important to keep your immune system as strong as possible and working 16 hr shifts in the ER is probably not too smart that soon after treatments...just suggesting ;) are you a nurse or dr?

    shinypop, so glad you had a nice bday, it's awesome that your taste buds were good! I'm hoping my bday is the same Sept. 7th, it will be day 7 for me, very iffy on the taste buds LOL, and I love Thai food so praying I can taste it that day!!!

    Here's to a great week all...hugs to everyone!  

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited July 2011

    For all the dreamers out there: I have heard that Ambien can cause some people to have strange dreams if anyone is taking that. So far, it doesn't do that to me. But, when I took Tylenol with Codeine in the past for wisdom tooth removal, I went through some strange ones!

    kk11: I think the sore throat will pop up with every treatment and just keep doing the teaspoon of baking soda per 8 oz of water and gargling and rinsing with that 4x / day to ease it. My doctor said that it is just the chemo drugs going through, not from being sick, although it does feel like that. Then the 2nd week post treatment, it was not such a fight to feel well in the throat.

    Hair: on day 12 after treatment I started getting considerable thinning. So that day, I gave up and got a cute (well as cute as it could be anyway) little short cut. On day 14, which was actually the day of 2nd treatment, it started coming out every time I touched my hair. I finally just leaned over a dry sink and ran my hands through it to gently tug it out. Every time I take a shower now, it takes so long to get all the hair out of my hands to get the shower done. My stepmom is visiting and I may let her shave it off tomorrow. It just takes so much time out of the day to clean up all that hair around the house and clothes and bed. And it really looks sad and pathetic now anyway. My 13 year old daughter started crying when she saw me without a hat on today. Today was the first time I had started wearing them, but I am losing so much so fast now, it was a dramatic change for her to see. Today is day 2, after 2nd treatment of A/C dd. (I still have great eyebrows today though, but it is going away everywhere else.)

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 317
    edited July 2011

    Still have mouth ulcers and on liquid diet but I think all my other SE's have subsided. I worry the ulcers won't clear within 2 weeks. I looked and I have 5 bottles of mouth swishers of different combos and reasons for use so essentially every hour I am swishing. But I find that I fall asleep and when I wake up...can be 1/2 hour later, my tongue is so sore it makes me cry. I run to swish with lidocaine but it makes me nauseaus. I am glad all the other problems are gone. Going back ot work tomorrow. Did swim in the ocean today after I had open studios...very hard to talk to people. It sounded as though I had novacaine in my mouth. 

  • sandy115
    sandy115 Member Posts: 172
    edited July 2011

    Hi everyone I start my Chemo treatments July 25th 3 rounds of Fec and 3 rounds of Taxatore

    The Oncol give me a script for Nulasta 1 shot after each Chemo treatment.Does anyone else have this regime.I will shave my head on the weekend as the oncol said total hair will fall out by

    99.9 % going to try to prolong the next 7 days befor Chemo.I hope everyone is having minimal S/E I enjoy reading your posts.

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    Cathy - I am on dose dense AC X 4, then Taxol X 4. I'm glad your first treatment wasn't too bad. It had me pretty wiped. They did correct the nausea and fatigue with a change in meds plus a steroid, but now I'm dealing with the jitteryness and having a hard time sleeping. I just want to get it all over with already!

     FSUMOM2012 - I agree with rabbit. Definitely cut yourself some slack and take it easy through treatments. It's a marathon, not a sprint, even though I'm sure we all want to just sprint and have it be over. I went through chemo before for a different issue and I learned the hard way that I shouldn't overdo it. This time, I'm on disability (at least for the first half) because I know I need to take care of me. Anyways, I'm sorry you had it so lousy. Please be kind to yourself and try not to do too much, at least for the first week of each cycle. 

    Stephanie - The rapid heartbeat has also been an issue for me starting at Day 3 or 4 of each treatment cycle. I'm still dealing with it tonight and it's Day 6. I hope it goes away soon. I'd like to sleep through the night!

    Shinypop - I'm late to the game, but happy belated birthday. Sucks that you have to spend it with chemo, but good that you were still able to enjoy it somewhat.

    Rabbit - I started on June 28th and am starting to shed quite a bit now 20 days later. Did you shave your head and when did you decide to do it if you did? I'm trying to decide what to do. Should I let it fall out or just shave it? I admit, I'm nervous about it, but I also don't want to watch it land all over my clothes and pillow. 

    I hope I get some quality sleep tonight with all the jumpiness! Night ladies.

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited July 2011

    hi Sandy

    I am on FEC for 4 rounds then docetaxel (taxatore) for 4 rounds, every 3 weeks. I get my 2nd FEC this Wed. I am not on the nulasta shots....I shaved my head on day 15 when I started shedding really bad.  

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited July 2011

    Ok, very bizarre SE if that's what this is. Shaved my head a few days ago, pubic hairs almost all gone, day 19 for me....what little hair is left on my head is coming out big time. I think my nose hairs are gone as my nose is dripping like crazy for days. And now for a few days I've been getting this funny little tickle in my left ear. It's like a tiny little itch that comes on every few hours. I'm thinking the hairs in my ears are falling out and I'm feeling it...anyone else??

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    Forgot to refresh the page before I posted!

    J-Bug - Thanks for the tips about the gargling. I haven't been doing it, but may try it. It's good to know it's just a s/e and not me getting sick. I'm also shedding a lot more now. I'm dreading shaving my head, but I agree it's going to get to be more energy to just clean up after all the shed.

    Paintingmywaythru - I'm sorry you've got mouth sores. I haven't had them yet but I do have the numb feeling on my tongue like I've burned it. With cycle 1, it started about a week after treatment and lasted a few days. Cycle 2 it started earlier and has lasted longer. Hopefully it doesn't get worse each treatment. 

    Sandy - I don't have the same chemo regime, but I am getting Neulasta shots on Day 2 of each cycle. I have to give them to myself (inject them in the abdomen area). I find they're not too bad. My onc recommended Claritin to help with the bone pain. I haven't had it too bad though my neck and face are sore starting a few days after the shot.  Maybe I need to take the Claritin longer, but I'm trying to limit all the meds. As for the hair, it won't come out right away. For me it only started to really come out about 16 days after my first treatment, though it varies from person to person. I decided to cut my own hair for the first time in my life knowing I couldn't go wrong. Turned out I did a pretty good job. I think this is the time to experiment. I cut my hair several times and had "fun" with it. Anyways, I guess you'll know when you're ready to shave, but just wanted to share that with you.

    Ok...now I'm going to try to get some sleep! I'll let you know tomorrow if I was successful.

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    Rabbit - The very first hairs to go for me were down there. I was in the shower and clumps were coming out. They're not all gone yet, but I knew it was going to start on my head soon after I saw that. I guess I won't complain if I lose hair on my legs or armpits too. I'll have to let you know about the nose hairs and ear hairs though.

  • sandy115
    sandy115 Member Posts: 172
    edited July 2011

    Hi Rabbit I get my treatment every 3 weeks too.The Oncol said my hair would fall out just after the 1st treatment..Did you have positive nodes.?Your diagnoses is the same as mine my tumor was 3.7 cm and I had sentanal node only had 2 taken out but the B S wants to take the rest out after Chemo and Rads.i would rather have had them out before Chemo and Rads.Did you have a

    Lumpectomy I had surgery June 3rd I am terified of the Chemo but there is not much I can do about it.I wonder why my oncol  is asking me to take Nulasta after each treatment the cost is $2.500 a shot x 6 the insurence company wont pay for it.I am in Onatrio.I hope you are getting some rest before your next chemo treatment.Let me know how it goes good luck.Sandra

  • GramNurse
    GramNurse Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2011

    I am scheduled to start chemo on July 29th.  4 rounds of Taxotere/cytoxan every 3 weeks.. Any suggestions?  Will have port placed sometime prior... Even tho I am a nurse, I am really stressing about this........

  • Bless0Mel
    Bless0Mel Member Posts: 28
    edited July 2011

    Ok guys today is the day for me to go in for chemo. I am sooooo not looking forward to this. I also think my hair will be gone a lot sooner than others on here since I will get treatments once a week. My infusion nurse friend told me I would be completely bald by the 3rd treatment and if not bald be almost bald with a few long strands that I would just want to shave off. So for me that will be basically two weeks completely bald oppose to shedding around that time. Soooooo not looking forward to this. Sorry for the pity party I am throwing myself over here

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2011

    Bless0Mel - think of it as 1 down....I know how you feel as i am likely to go for my 2nd chemo next Monday if blood counts are all ok and already I am so dreading it.  

  • Kayak2
    Kayak2 Member Posts: 8,561
    edited July 2011

    Derar GramNurse,

    I am a nurse too, and this experience has given me a new appreciation of the courage it takes to be a pt.  (I have none.  Nothing in my career has prepared me for this).  Had my port placed last week and 1st chemo tomorrow.  (Am terrified).  While they said that the port can be used right away, they neglected to mention that the area would be sore for a few days, so I rescheduled my chemo appt from the day after port placement to tomorrow.  I suggest scheduling your 1st chemo a week later than port placement.  We're all in this together.  A big hug to you and to all of the rest of the new July fraidycats like me.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2011

    Kayak2 - smart move on the reschedule.  I used my port 2 days after the port placement (in on fri and chemo on Mon).  The onco nurse had a hard time pinning the port down and finding the right spot (and she is very experienced) as my swelling was bad.  She enlisted another senior nurse who also had a hard time and together I was jabbed like 3 times before they finally got it in.  It was so so so so painful, felt like being stabbed! Poor nurses - they were so stressed from my screaming and kept apologising.  Now 8 days after my chemo, the port area is still a little sore (more from the jabbing and pressing to find the port) but very much better.  

  • J-Bug
    J-Bug Member Posts: 626
    edited July 2011

    Sandy115: The Neulasta shot helps give you blood counts a boost. Mine were extremely low until that shot kicked in. One of my nurses told me that before they gave that shot a lot of patients ended up hospitalized for various infections due to low white blood cell count. I believe she said that there is another option, but right now in my neck of the woods, Nuelasta seems to be the leading choice. I hope the information helps. I am so sorry that the Canadian insurance has not jumped on that one. (I will bite my tongue on ObamaCare for now.)

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited July 2011

    hi Sandra

    I opted for chemo before surgery, we're hoping to shrink the 4-5cm tumor to 1 cm or so and POSSIBLY get away with a lumpectomy. I don't know for sure about the lymph nodes, but on the MRI it showed 2 on the right side (where my BC is) that were "slightly inflamed" so probably there is something starting there although my onco said just days after my biopsy, it was possibly they were swollen due to the core needle biopsy, I had 4 chunks taken out....

  • vshowe
    vshowe Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    I also just started last Friday.  So far no bad side effects, just some diarrhea.  I will go once a week for 12 weeks and then at the end every other week for 8 weeks.  Praying to God this chemo works.  I've been so down since my diagnosis and I know that I need to get back into a routine.  I resigned from my teaching job in May so I could spend time with my new baby and 3 year old, and 2 months later I have BC diagnosis!  I got  my "cranial prosthesis" prescription from my doctor, so I'm trying to plan a fun day with girlfriends to find a nice wig.

    Have a blessed day, Vicki

  • Cathy_C
    Cathy_C Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2011

    fsumom2012- I agree slow down and I am sure you are a SuperMom without lifting a finger. You are going through an event that is about you. Let others take care of you for once.

    To those sisters that have already completed your second treatment it sure is nice being able to follow your SE and the days they are happening. J-Bug didnt realize you are also on DD AC, I'm gonna watch your SE closer as that is what I am doing. So guess by around Friday I will see the hair falling out. Is it crazy of all the hair to lose I do not want to lose my eyebrows?

    Bless0Mel- I will be at your pity party anytime you want me. 

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    Sandra - How ridiculous that insurance won't pay for Neulasta! It's about $3500 here per shot, but I fortunately only have a $20 copay, so I know it could be a lot worse. Anyways, I would argue the insurance coverage on that shot since if they're paying for your chemo, they should pay for that too. Maybe have your onco contact insurance for you so that they know it's medically necessary? I don't know how it works in Canada, but surely they should be covering it!

    GramNurse - My only suggestion would be to have the port placed enough in advance of your first infusion. I had it placed the same day and went into my first session dehydrated, which made all of my s/e worse. The best thing you can do is to be as hydrated as possible going in. I'm not on the same regimen as you, so I can't speak to the drug combo, but hydration surely benefits us all!

    BlessOMel - You have EVERY right to throw yourself a pity party if you want to. I am on Day 21 since my first infusion (getting DD every other week) and while I am not bald yet, I'm starting to shed like crazy. I thought I was ready for it. I'm NOT. I have been down for the last several days. It's just hair I know, but it's like cancer is staring me in the face now. Up until now, I didn't feel as much like a cancer patient. 

    Kayak2 - You will get through it even if you are scared. This is my 3rd chemo regimen (first 2 were for a molar pregnancy) and each time I have been nervous going in. Then you get through it because you have to. Hoping your first session isn't too rough. 

    For those of you with ports, I was prescribed a lidocaine cream to put on about an hour before they access the port. I don't have much pain at all when they put the needle in, just a little discomfort. Definitely ask your doctor about it because anything you can do to reduce suffering is worth it!

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited July 2011

    Well, dat 5 out of AC and I am alive. I can eat, I took two walks. Plan to head back to work tomorrow...... this was not fun but hope that this is my pattern. Then I know, Friday and Monday off from work. Going to take advantage of the day off and nap a bit more. Feel better all:)

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    vshowe - I took my mom and SIL with me to go wig shopping for the first time. I was dreading it, but I ended up having a little bit of fun. As for the prescription for the cranial prosthesis, I would definitely double check with your insurance before you buy b/c mine doesn't cover wigs, so I am in the process of an appeal. Meanwhile, I went to an event put on by the American Cancer Society and got a donated wig instead. I'm sorry you're dealing with this diagnosis right with 2 little ones at home. It's hard enough going through this without. Make sure you accept whatever help you can from others around you so that you don't wear out.

    Cathy - It's absolutely not crazy to want to keep your eyebrows! I am perfectly fine losing the hair on my legs/underarms/down there lol, but the hair on my head is a different story. Since there's no way I'm keeping my hair, I certainly hope I can hold on to at least my eyebrows!

  • kk11
    kk11 Member Posts: 210
    edited July 2011

    misswim - How many treatments have you had? For me, it got a little better with treatment #2, but who knows what #3 has in store for me. I agree we will learn with each one, but it can vary between each one. I hope you have some flexibility with work in case you need more time off.

  • Jamie30
    Jamie30 Member Posts: 117
    edited July 2011

    Hi all!  I havent been on for a while.  I have been super busy with my kids, husband, family, and church.   I will go in for my 2nd infusion tomorrow.  I am not nervous for tomorrow but I do dread the week afterward a bit.  I have gotten pretty close to being my old self and I dont want to give it up just yet but gotta do what I gotta do.  Tonight I am going with my family to a baseball game.  I cant wait.  I havent been to a Mudcats game in a while.  It will be nice to do something before chemo tomorrow.  My bff is taking me for my infusion.  My hubby has to work.  He will be off for day 3 and 4 which seem to be my worst. 

    We had class at church last night and we joined a life group that will be going into local nursing and hospice centers.  I am really excited to get back to at least visiting with residents.  I miss my residents from my old job.  I worked as a CNA while in nursing school.  I have taken a break from school for now but cant wait to get back into my life.

     BTW, I am also on vitamin D.  I actually found out when my onc did labwork at my first visit.  I was suprised that noone else said anything about it since I had a bunch of blood work for my physical.  I take 50,000 once a week for 12 weeks.

    Hope everyone has a good day today.

  • ANA_424
    ANA_424 Member Posts: 109
    edited July 2011

    I've been trying to catch up on posts - you all have been busy. I'm sending good thoughts out to those of you starting treatment today. I know it is particularly scary when you don't know what to expect. Hopefully, it has helped to read everyone else's experiences as they go through it, too. Good thoughts to those getting more treatments this week, too. I'm on break until the 28th.

    I'm on day 12, I think. Energy-wise, I felt great this weekend. I even cleaned my deck - for the first time in 7 years! But I've dealt with a couple of odd things due to low white count. I don't get the Neulasta shot, by the way. I think my doc holds out until/unless I really need it.

    So the middle of last week, I started getting an acne breakout. 9-10 huge pimples within a couple of days. I was not prepared for that! Can't remember the last time that happened. I called the nurse and emailed the doctor and they have not really offered any help - just suggested Neutrogena and benzoyl peroxide, which I already use. Would I have called if that was all it took? Sorry, I was really frustrated. I know it's not the most important SE, but it really bothered me. I thought they would have more to offer and am wondering if I should call a dermatologist. If this happens every time, I'm going to be really upset. I mean, I'm prepared to lose my hair, but not to have a messed up face at the same time.

    Last night was weird. I woke up feeling chilled and achy in the middle of the night. I took my temp and it was 99.7, I think. I couldn't sleep and the achiness got worse. When I took my temp again, it was 100.2. I am supposed to go to the doctor immediately if it is 100.5, so was mentally preparing myself for a trip to the ER. But then I could actually feel the fever break and it went down again. I called the Dr. about that today and they called in a scrip for an antibiotic, just in case. Funny thing is, that will probably help the acne ;-)

    Does anyone else have incredibly chapped lips? Mine feel like sandpaper right now.

    Ahhhh, thanks for listening. Someone mentioned feeling sad. I think I just feel really grumpy. It's funny how I can deal with some side effects just fine, but then others bother me a LOT. Don't know what that is. But I wish more peaceful feelings to all of you!

  • rabbit
    rabbit Member Posts: 613
    edited July 2011

    Jamie, I get my 2nd FEC Wed. the day after you...will think about you tomorrow if you think about me Wed. LOLOL I know what you mean about feeling normal, I have felt GREAT the last several days or more, taking advantage of it. Tomorrow I get a massage from one of the cancer clinics downtown free of charge for chemo patients..can't wait! 

     Ana, they put me on cipro last Wed. my temp was only 99.5, I am glad they did, we can't afford to take any chances. :)

    hope we are all SE free this week!!

    hugs to all 

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