I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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I also don't like Kindle and Nook - I prefer paper too. Books are wonderful things to be surrounded by. It's sad to go so very paperless, even though one appreciates the benefits.
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Alpal - it's true about the ink. There is something comforting about the folded paper on the bed. And the permanency of the written word seems compromised.
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Oh, Athena, I like paper books, too. The thing with the Kindle and the Nook is that you can't take the books you read to the used book store and turn them in and get more! What if you read it and don't like it? You're out the cost of the book with no way to recoup even part of the cost by selling it to the used book store. And then there is the used book market ... I don't think there is a market for used Kindle books!! Revkat, I understand that if you access the NYT articles from a search engine like Google or Yahoo, it doesn't count against your 20 article limit. Also if you have a home computer and a work computer -- the IP addresses are different. And I have an iPad and the NYT doesn't seem to recognize it (I don't log in, I just browse) so I know I have gone over 20 articles in a month on my iPad. Alpal, DH watches me like a hawk with the newspaper -- I usually end up with smudges on my face from reading it and then rubbing or scratching my face. I must channel my inner two-year-old! ETA - I LOVE the internet ... open vein, insert information. But nothing replaces paper for pleasure reading!
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Revkat
I don't know if that 20 limit includes access from other sites - if it doesn't you'll often find articles on NYT linked from MSNBC.org.
I am thrilled to be missing, what has gotten our friend "quacking" on our behalf. Remember from briefly reading a thread on another website, how deliberately posting on this very thread, was/is/sometimes done just to provoke. Reminds me of folks calling this thread trivial, or boring, and still keeping such a close eye on it. Maybe it's our BCOB&G macadamia nutz...
Weeeell.... don't like strings of emoticons, so Quack, Quack, and Roar, Roar to the wonderful women who keep this place safe, and sane, and fun to be at.
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In spite of how much I love real books, I adore my Kindle. It's so handy and also fills my need for instant gratification. Living 45 mins. from the nearest book store (besides Kroger!) is a real drag. We have a wonderful public library, but being put on a waiting list isn't my idea of fun. When I decide on something I want to read, I can have it in my hands in less than a minute. And, yes, I feel guilty for my part in the demise of book stores!
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I love being among fellow printed-word junkies!
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LJ .. the chocolate elephants sound wonderful. Chocolate anything sounds wonderful!
Athena .. I like paper too. In fact, I used to make my own paper and make greeting cards. Just loved the feel and smell of paper.
I don't have a Kindle .. still in the dark ages. Having lots of books around always made me feel so rich ... the problem is with my last two moves, I gave 90% of my books away. Just don't have the space now to start collecting again.
Bren
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and book lovers
I'm still a paper book person, and thankful so many of the fiction authors I adore wrote years ago, and are readily available in a used book store. Living in what is also know as The Five College Area ( cuz there are 5 larges colleges nearby) means a plethora of used book stores. I love them. The most wonderfully suprising things seem to jump off the shelf at me, and I discover more & more new writers I love. -
Hey, Bren
I've made paper too.....such fun!!! I kept all the dried flowers I'd collected from my garden, and used them in some of them. Made "books" as Christmas present s one year, with the covers covered in the paper. Also, had fun making "paste paper" which is really for kinds, but SUCH FUN!
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It seems to me that if you access articles from other sites the NYT counts them as part of your first 20, once you meet the limit it allows you additional access from other sites. I could be wrong, but that's what seemed to be happening. The first month I did a lot of googling headlines to find the articles I wanted but that is a bit of an annoyance in this instant gratification environment.
I have a Nook, but I never buy books for it. I rarely buy any books although I read extensively. Once you get a waiting list going at the library there's always something coming to the top. I like the portability of the Nook -- I can load it with books and carry it much easier than a suitcase full of books. But I find I read much more slowly on it, each page doesn't have as much print so I can't scan it. It is better for reading at night because I don't have to mess with a booklight. It also seems to put me to sleep faster than the printed page. Go figure.
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Re: newspapers and breakfast
Well, kind of. We just subscribe to one newspaper anymore. It's the one published in the county seat, which happens to be the town nearest to where we live. The poor thing only comes out once a week, but it arrives by U.S. mail on the designated date.... and it only costs $25 per year. (What is that -- less than 50 cents an issue?)
The rest of my news I get by watching the local and national evening news on TV, and through free subscriptions to 2 daily on-line newspapers from our area. Oh, and by reading Yahoo News and Google News at least twice a day. When I'm bored and nothing else is on, I'll occasionally switch the TV to FOX News or CNN. I do pretty well on the current events quizzes, but I really miss the comics.

Mr. otter just handed me a dish of freshly made (homemade) peach ice cream. If I buy the ingredients, he'll make the ice cream. What a deal that is! Mmmmm... this batch is especially good.
The FIFA World Cup women's soccer championship betw/ the U.S. and Japan starts in a few minutes. The pre-game show is already on (on ESPN). Don't forget to watch!
otter
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Otter,
When we retire, we expect to retire to the Upper Midwest. That town has a nice daily newspaper, but I will miss the WaPo, so I'll be reading it online. The state's largest city has a respectable newspaper, too, so I'll probably get at -- at least on Sunday. And I will probably be unable to resist the NYT, if only on Sunday. Newspaper junkie!
I watch TV news, too, but am sorely disappointed at what passes for "news" these days. At least once a week, I say exasperatedly to DH, "Is this news? Do we REALLY need to hear about this?" I like the BBC World news best -- they don't seem to have so many stories about how many calories some people eat at a meal or where they buy their clothes ... or breathless exposes about JLo and Mark Anthony splitting. <yawn> Show me what is happening in Southern Sudan, please -- there is an interesting story!
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Another newspaper lover here! DH and I enjoy reading our daily Globe & Mail over breakfast (and doing the crossword together!). We also get the Toronto Star on the weekends, and a couple of local papers as well. I check out WaPo and the UK Guardian on-line every day too. One of my favourite times with my dad was reading the Globe together in the evening after dinner. Usually we'd each be eating an apple too! He loved a piece of cheddar with his apple -- me, not so much!
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I love my paper books, newspapers, the NYTimes (especially on Sunday) BUT I also love reading online and am hoping a Kindle is in my near future - the used bookstore down the street is one of my favourite places on a Sunday - I grew up in Montreal and it used to be a two newspaper a day city (the Gazette and the Star) my dad used to bring home the New York Times because he could purchase it at Windsor Station on his way home - my poor mother - the couches were always stained with newsprint until she discovered "throws".
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Caerus-Sunflowers wrote:
Revkat
I don't know if that 20 limit includes access from other sites - if it doesn't you'll often find articles on NYT linked from MSNBC.org.
I am thrilled to be missing, what has gotten our friend "quacking" on our behalf. Remember from briefly reading a thread on another website, how deliberately posting on this very thread, was/is/sometimes done just to provoke. Reminds me of folks calling this thread trivial, or boring, and still keeping such a close eye on it. Maybe it's our BCOB&G macadamia nutz...
Weeeell.... don't like strings of emoticons, so Quack, Quack, and Roar, Roar to the wonderful women who keep this place safe, and sane, and fun to be at.
I was going to keep my mouth shut but.............
WOW! You are someone to talk. I'm sure you "unignored" us to read. We're not stupid. And, you are one of the ones who goes around other threads asking it to be locked because you don't want any part of how the thread ends up since you were the OP. And, you get your way!
My point in posting the video was to TRY to educate some people on what's happening here and what some of the "cures" were in other places. No, someone has to make a big deal out of it.
BTW, Bren, our backed chicken and roasted veggie dinner was good the other night. Now I need to decide what to fix tonight.
Edited to add: Oh, go tell the mods it's okay. However, Blue requested NO TATTLING!
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Shirley .. we're having burgers for dinner tonight and homemade potato salad. Something simple, but tastes good.
I do agree that this is a no tattling thread ... let's keep it that way.
Hi Sandy .. good to see you again! Looking forward to meeting you in August!
Bren
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Hi Bren - I was away from the Board for a week or so (I had my "borrowed" granddaughter here visiting) it seriously took me all day yesterday to catch up on my BCO reading! Looking forward to seeing you in August.
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I do find I read differently on-line than I do a physical paper. For me, on-line is great for scanning the top news. But for all that the internet lends itself to jumping here and there, from link to link, I still experience more serendipity with a physical paper. There's something about the experience of flipping the pages and letting my eyes wander that leads me to discover odd - but interesting - articles I wouldn't otherwise have read.
(It's blazing hot here today, almost too hot to breathe. I'm drinking an icy cold watermelon agua fresca and thinking cool thoughts.)
L
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I love my Kindle. I read about 3-4 books a week and just got sick of being buried in books. This is much more economical.
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Wow ... Barbara .. that's a lot of books. No wonder the Kindle is working better for you than hardback books!
Bren
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I am a book lover. I don't know if I could convert over to a Kindle. I also like the feel of turning pages in a book and reading the newspaper. My coffee buddy saves me her newspapers every day and I go over there twice a week at least to pick them up - so we are recycling them so to speak at HER cost

I had an excel spreadsheet and listed every book I owned by title, author, print date, and publisher. I lost interest in keeping the list after I reached over 750 books and that was 10 years ago and I know now I have at least 1500 books. I just can't give them up after I read them. I must be OCD when it comes to keeping books.
I was so disappointed that when I went through chemo I couldn't read because of the total lack of focus. I had figured that would be a great time to read at least 1 book a day.
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jancie -- my dh keeps track of all the books he's read -- has done so over the last 5 years -- because he had a bad habit of going to the library, bringing a book home, and saying "Oh sh*t, I've already read this one!" Now he takes the very long list with him!
With our last move, we donated boxes and boxes of books to the library, and to the university. Now, I keep the non-fiction books we buy, and donate the fiction to our local library. I also take our magazines to the oncology clinic and our local cottage hospital. It sure helps reduce the clutter!
BTW, today's crossword included the clue "Beehive state". That's Utah, right? And why did it get that moniker?
(EFT)
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I used to love hard back books. I had tons of them but as I get older, I find I like less 'stuff' around. I am divesting myself of all my collectable Flow Blue and american Cut Glass. Right not I am trying to sell one of DH's guitars in eBay. After that I will be having auction after auction.
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I treat my favorite used book store, kind of as a library. I buy books, return them for store credit, and buy more books. I keep some of the "classics" that I really love. The new books, usually paperback I buy, circulate to all my friends in the community where I live. Blessed to have landed in a really, really little town of so many, mnay book lovers. AND writers. WOW, there are a lot of writers living in western MA.
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Barbara, I'm getting to a similar place. I was a gung-ho estate saler for many years; now I look around the house, and while I'm still fond of my various finds, I've started mentally sorting through them in preparation for a major culling sometime in the next few years. I'll hang on to the American mid-century dinnerware and get rid of the odds and ends of glass and china that I picked up before I became pickier. Not just yet, though!
(Edited to add a shout-out to CS: I went to grad school in western Mass for 3 years, and you have no idea how homesick - in a good way - posts like the one above make me.)
L
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Yes, Linda. I also have some beautiful hand painted dishes my great grandmother and grandmother painted. I have no kids so eBay, here they come. I particularly like a pitcher and washbowl GGma painted. It has grapes and other fruit on it and is just beautiful.
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Oh, Barbara, those sound just lovely.
L
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I, too, look around at all my stuff (including hundreds of books, if not 1k+) snd start mentally culling for our retirement move. I'm not yet willing to give up my "pretties," but I can foresee that time coming as I have no children either. I will try to find homes for the few family things I have with nieces and cousins, but I can see much E-baying in my future. Not that there isn't E-baying right now, both selling and buying (you guessed it -- mainly books!). The only thing I really can be said to collect is books, though. Once I retire, I expect to have time enough to not only cull my books, but to go to the library so that I don't add to my stock!
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Check this out.

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Ooooh, I want! That's why I don't go antiquing! I don't have an inch more room and DH is Zen-like in his desperate wish to GET RID of stuff. Pretty, pretty, pretty!
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