The Budwig FOCC

You might want to seriously research actual flax studies rather than rely on your impressions.

Thanks a lot Molly, have to go back to hospital soon and will show both studies to the pharmacist and see what she says. I agree that they can,t be as updated as we are LoL

My Onc. is very conservative. As he says he wants to do no harm. Until the answers are there which they aren't at this time his feeling is best to avoid. In the past I used soy products as well. I have chosen to avoid them as well. I'm not going to go nuts about it, but feel there are enough products that have soy in them.

Kira,

Your onc may think he is doing no harm by avoiding flax. But he may do more harm by discouraging you--if you actually look the flax information up.

Am I the only one who looks information up in the medical literature?

Molly, your onc may not be familiar with medical studies, but mine is and he's not the only person I've asked.  I'm glad you are confident in your conclusions but you aren't the only one with the magic google.  There are plenty of women -- inluding women who are as skeptical of mainstream medicine as you are -- who drawn different conclusions.

All of us who had er+ cancers have to draw our own conclusions based on our comfort levels with the science that is available. 

If you noticed from my previous posts, I've said I would never rely on what you call the "magic google."

I was taught to research everything at The National Library of Medicine at the National Institutes of Health online.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/

If you are truly interested in "the science available" you might want to check it out rather than use the "magic google."

It sure is a compelling subject. I do know with the studying I've done what I've found is natural soy seems safe in limited quantities. Where we really need to be concerned is the processed soy such as in soy burgers, and soy shakes. These were  things I was using in large quantities before I got BC.

 Luan, I agree plastic is a known carcinogen when heated in the microwave. I wish I had known years ago, used them for years. I also avoid plastic water bottles now.

Thank you for these studies, Molly Ann.  Hopefully the gals here will get what you're putting out there.  Breast cancer is just one of the cancers that allegedly respond to BP.  If the majority of breast cancers are ER+, then why would breast cancer respond to BP if the flax seed/oil were harmful?  The phytoestrogens in the flax are too weak to cause cancer to grow and, on the risk vs benefits scale, I would say the flax benefits way outweigh the risks. 

xxoo

Melissa

 Here's what the American Cancer Society has to say about  FLAXSEED 

"More research in humans is needed to determine the usefulness of flaxseed in cancer treatment and prevention. While animal and laboratory studies show promise, further studies are needed to determine whether the results apply to humans. "

It's really important to note that the studies referred to earlier in this thread were done in mice, in the laboratory.  Historically, mouse or other animal studies have often been found to apply very differently or not at all to human applications.  

Does anyone have any credible sources to share regarding the Budwig Protocol / FOCC? I've searched and not been able to find a single one, but I'm definitely interested if anyone can share.  I know about the Yahoo group, but I'm looking for credible, evidence-based information.

Personally, i don,t give a hoot whether it prevents cancer or not, i just know it,s good for me

Yeah but the third party is accurate, these are lab studies, not studies of actual women.

Incredible, requiring to see a scientific double blind study before eating a bowl of cereal, i thought i had seen it all, lol The rats wouldn,t even have your corn flakes....

it's very nice and very sad to read threads with half the members blocked.  I can easily guess what they are saying.  It's sad to me that some posters are so aggressively Anti - ANTI that there good points are lost to the 'ignore in the sky' function (for which actually, I am very grateful).

Anyway, as to studies on diet threads..

Diets are great for many things.. improving a body's health and ability to withstand the ravages of disease and discomfort of cancer treatments.  A healthy body can heal readily (Personally I think the Budwig Protocol is way too restrictive.. so many important nutrients are unavailable for ingestion.)  Seems to kick ass tho.  For some types of cancers certain nutrients should be avoided and not mindlessly ingested because of internet lore.

There are many diets which claim to fight and cure cancer.  just google 'cancer diet cures'.

Any true alternative seeker will never put any credence in anything the American Cancer Society says.  If they're not a front for chemo and radiation, I don't know who is. 

xxoo

Melissa