Chemo May 2011

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  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited July 2011

    Laureen taxol check in; felt Much less 'poisoned' but came come and couldn't eat... No appetite for anything. Slept through infusion and from the moment I get hom until dinner, where all I would east is cream of wheat... Yikes! 300 calories :( also I am having leg and elbow pain... But no nausea yet.



    Oandolivo, welcome.! They take two vials of my blood every week for my blood.draws.

  • mccrimmon324
    mccrimmon324 Member Posts: 1,076
    edited July 2011

    Bkj66 - People can be so self absorbed, I bet your co-workers don't even realize they are benefitting from your treatments.  As far as moving you around, that's really unaceptable!  I'm just at a loss as to how some people can be so thoughtless.  I'm so sorry you have to deal with that, I was a hairdresser a long long time ago and I don't miss it one bit, it's not an easy job and I give you lots of credit for being able to work thru your treatments.  Don't let them get you down!!

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited July 2011

    I am having the blood draw every week. I have them do it threw my port, one less spot.

    I still have a bruise on my arm from the IV they did when I had my port put in on May 16th. I did ask the ON office, he told me it is ok, not to worry.

    I am so tired today, my mind is worling. I dont think I will be able to sleep.

    Tomarrow is chair day.

    Candice

  • oandtolivo
    oandtolivo Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2011

    Wow, no wonder most ladies on here have a port!  My two weeks off I only get a finger stick.  I'd hate to give up a vein very week.

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited July 2011

    so the constipation is my big thing this time round 3 of the 4 a/c .I feel like glass is trying to pass . I just called the nurse and she said use preparation h for pain which might be helping a little bit. Then she told me to drink magnesium citrate. I havent ever tried that . So will this loosen everything or will i feel like glass is still there . I dread the drink  but i know i got to do it. Hope everyone this round skips the constipation its really bad and hard to over come.

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited July 2011

    It is so weird how people react when someone is sick.  My husband never wanted anyone to know that he had cystic fibrosis, and this is probably why!  When he did tell people, he didn't get the response that we have all been getting though.  I wonder why.  

    Anyway..I've had some issues with friends.  One has completely dropped off the radar. I used to see her a couple of times a week and I haven't seen her once in the 3 months since I have been dx.  I just find that crazy.  Another friend was hardly seeing me or asking if I needed anything, etc., so I finally sent her an email about it a couple of weeks ago and it has gotten better.  I just felt so abandoned because these are my really close friends.

    I have a lot of friends that live far away and one day I was feeling particularly lonely and so I sent out a facebook message saying that I would love to get mail from people if they wanted to help and also for my crafty friends that they could make me hats.  It felt so lame, but I've gotten care packages and cards and it does make me feel better.  My virtual support has been so much better than my real life support, which does make me sad, but at least there is some.

    I think that people are oblivious, rude, or sometimes just don't know how to handle it. I think that with my friends they don't know how to handle me being sick, especially so soon after my husband's death.  But it is still hard.

    I can't believe how some of the people in your lives are acting.  I say speak up!  You'll probably feel better.  Hugs to everyone!!! 

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited July 2011

    I do think it is unintentional. Maybe our friends do not know what to say or they think they are bothering us while we are sick. I am sure it probably scares them and they back away to protect themselves, and they probably do not even realize it.

    Blondelawyer-glad you did that and got good results! I think people do care, they are just at a loss of knowing what to do. I like the idea of being direct and letting them know exactly what we need.

    I would much prefer people not knowing that I have cancer, and would hide it if I could. Problem is the baldness and the fatique, I would never be able to work my normal schedule. I think that is why I just stay home when I can, don't want to deal with the wig, or wear a hat and get the sympathy stares. I do have to say that when I wear a hat I get great service and strangers are so nice to me, some even saying hi to me, most people smile at me, Only once did I get a dirty look from someone, and maybe that was just her face!

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited July 2011

    We remind them of their own mortality... That because we are young and so are they.



    My online friends have been amazing... Some of them have been friends with me for many years and I hope to meet a few of them next year.

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited July 2011

    Blonde lawyer - an interesting conversation with a colleague: the very nature of breast cancer - it's breasts, the word that makes most 12 yr olds giggle - makes it uncomfortable.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited July 2011

    Count down to ac #6, my last one!!! Friday is the day, then off to abraxane/carbo and avastin. Would love to hear more from those who have done abraxane(or taxol) and carbo. Also would like to know more about se of avastin. Thank you Suze35 for sharing your experience with taxol/carbo. Did you do weekly? I am doing weekly, but the carbo might be changed to e/o week if I can't handle the weekly, at least that is what my mo said. I thought weekly was suppose to be the easiest way!

    How are you new taxol gals holding up?

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited July 2011

    Bkj,

    I had my first taxol yesterday. So far I noticed right away that I didn't feel that poisoned feeling as with the AC. I did have pain in my lower legs last night and woke up with it... Similar to the nuelasta pain. I do not have nausea but have no interest in food so it's been tough to eat today. No headache and so far no stomach ache.



    I'm keeping close track on how it progresses since it's accumulative. But I was able to run an errand today and AC I didn't leave my room for many days!

    Congrats on this being your last week of AC!!

    I'm hopeful!

  • neecee
    neecee Member Posts: 663
    edited July 2011

    One of my closest friends called last night - haven't heard from her in weeks.  I took the opportunity to tell her how abandoned I felt by everyone.  She cried and apologized, and said she had not been calling because she was afraid it would be a disturbance if I was not feeling well.  I wonder if that is how other people think?  That calling is an imposition? 

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited July 2011

    Justme - I was right there with you with AC constipation - I heard it labeled "Catcus butt"  Yup it hurts!  I had to keep Prep H in my purse for weeks.  I started taking Colace and it helped, but still hurt until I finished AC.  Good luck honey. 

    And, I'll say it again - Taxol is sooo much better than A/C.  My SE didn't accumulate much at all!  Finished last week!  You can do it!

    Glad we all have each other -

    Vicky

  • Plils
    Plils Member Posts: 146
    edited July 2011

    Hello beautiful ladies,

    Just wanted to say that I love you all and I do have a great family and friend support but when I get on here I feel like I am not alone and can make it through this thanks to all you ladies.  

    Just wanted to get that out there, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

    Hugs and love.  Pam 

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited July 2011

    HOT FLASHES, I am 38 years old and having hot flashes. I am currently sitting her topless with the air set to 77, it has been 90 here most day. I am so hot I am worried about a feaver. This is just so frustrating. UUGGGGG!!!!

    Sorry about the vent

    Candice

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    Hi ladies,

    My port worked fine today when went in for the Taxol.  Thank God!  I was so worried.  Thanks for all of your encouragement and positive words.

    About the constipation - that was my big deal during the first two infusions of AC.  My Dr gave me Miralax for the third and subsuequent tx and I haven't had it since.  My nail beds did turn a gray color just above the cuticles.  The Onc nurse told me it was from the cytoxan.  They seem to lighten up with the more water I consume. 

    Bkj66, I agree with your thought to charge them a referral fee simply due to your loss of income. It's not as if you quit or had to relocate. Even in those cases, I would still charge it. Especially since you know they are benefitting financially from your clients. That's not fair to you. Sorry, that's just me. You still need to pay your bills.

    Beaglesgirl, I agree with you on the Taxol.  So far, so good.  No poisonous feeling!  I was tired afterwards and took a 2-hour nap when I got home. I will keep you posted.  

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    Oh yeah - I forgot - {{{{HUGS}}}}

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited July 2011

    I am so glad u ladies are in my life .

  • justme1
    justme1 Member Posts: 223
    edited July 2011

    MamaV thanks for letting me know i am not alone.I did get a good bowel movement  its 2 am here and the last few hours thats all i have done  maybe tomorrow or shall i say today will be better.

    I was never social anyway but now i do get call if ya need anything like i would call lol but thats ok i have tons of prayers coming my way and honestly i need em and very happy with that. Strangers are so kind .I sometimes for get i am bald and think hey why they so friendly then remember i hope to have them a smile back somedays its rough though .......

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited July 2011

    Although I don't post often, I get so much good out of what you Ladies share.

    I am so tired and sick to my stomach all the time but trying to use all the helpful hints given.

    I have my first Docetaxol (Taxotere) in 2 weeks and I am so frightened of it.  I had 3 FEC already and they've just wiped me out.  Anyway, I''m trying to focus on what some have said - that the Taxotere was easier than the FEC. 

    Is anyone else gaining weight from trying to ease their stomach sickness with eating too much?  I'm feeling very bad and ugly with my weight gain (clothes don't fit).  Cry

  • Robyn_S
    Robyn_S Member Posts: 197
    edited July 2011

    Hello May ladies! I am in envy of your chat of hot weather there! It is so cold here in oz that even the occaisonal hot flash is a bonus!

    Lifelover I had the first taxotere last week after doing 3 FEC and it is a breeze compared to FEC! I had a bit of fatigue and flu like aches and pains around day 3-5 but that eased and feeling very normal now. But best of all- no real nausea at all! Tummy is fine too so different to FEC!! I was cautious and used warm water to rinse the nether regions ESP first 2 days as taxotere is irritating on exit! I am also taking L acetyl carnitine to prevent neuropathy and have not had any tingling or numbness in my hands or feet so far.

    Has anyone else here experienced any neuropathy so far on T or TC tx? I heard about glutamine and researched before deciding to take LAC as there is a trial ATM looking at using l actyl carnitine i prevention of CIPN.

    Robyn

  • lifelover
    lifelover Member Posts: 553
    edited July 2011
    Thanks Robyn.  Great tips!  I am so looking forward to not having nausea.
  • oandtolivo
    oandtolivo Member Posts: 83
    edited July 2011

    One more FEC Monday and I'm not looking forward to it! UndecidedSo ready to start T and not spend 12 hours vomiting. I'll never drink anything red again. I can't even look at a red drink without feeling sick.  I hope everyone has a great weekend. Smile**** Tracy

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    --- Member Posts: 197
    edited July 2011

    beaglesgirl,

    had my #1 taxol last monday, down the whole day yesterday (3rd day) and today.  whole body pain, been taking 800mg ibuprofen.  taste buds made a turn, couldn't taste anything.  my body pain starts from head upto feet.  been bed-bound for 2 days now.  i hope my body picks up tomorrow.

    laureen

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited July 2011

    Oh no Laureen! I have had the pain but mostly in lower legs. Today had to switch to vicodin but it worked on it. Other than that I have felt pretty good for someone on chemo. Tired is still the norm, food aversion too. I am so sorry that you have been down for days :( are you doing dose dense or weekly?

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited July 2011

    Laureen,

    that has been my experience as the taxol has progressed. i am weekly and i just finished #8 of 12. THEN i move on the 4 dd AC.

    aleve works better for me than ibuprofen. along with that daily claritan. i have chronically stuffy sinuses and nose. bleeding nose. bloody mucus from nose blowing. taste buds not working. it's like a really really bad flu but without the fever or the flu. i stare at the wall a lot and watch more tv than i have in a long time.

    Muscle pain bordering on cramping in calves and hamstrings. and sometimes my teeth hurt which i haven't seen anyone else post about here. just achy teeth.  

     i use the glutamine for the peripheral neuropathy issue. i tend toward loose stool more than constipation... many times a day and that SE brings on short term nausea for me, but never vomiting.

    mentally i find myself quite flat or depressed during those days... i get chemo on monday mornings and am wasted physically starting around afternoon of Wed until Friday morning sometimes even longer.

    I just keep looking forward to October when my chemo will be done. I keep enjoying the fact that my tumor is shrinking best i can tell. and that All I'll Want For Christmas is Some Hair on My Head. lol...

    ts 

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited July 2011

    I am finally going to have a couple of breaks coming up. Going to Vegas this weekend and how we will get around the closed 405 I have no idea. I am so excited. Sun and fun. Not much if a gambler (penny and nickel slots) and not a drinker or smoker at all. But I love the heat!!!' no wig unless for date night on Saturday night. First appointment with RO on Tuesday morning and looks like that will be starting soon.

  • Plils
    Plils Member Posts: 146
    edited July 2011

    Cyborg,

    Have a great weekend, and enjoy yourself.  You deserve it.

    You will have to fill us all in on how much fun you had when you get back.

    I will have my last T/C on Aug 1st then off to radiation I am guessing end of Aug or 1st of  Sept.

     Have a great time in Vegas.

    Pam 

  • jackifp
    jackifp Member Posts: 185
    edited July 2011

    So who's gonna start that August/September rads group that we'll wander over to?

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited July 2011

    Twisted steel, we are on the same regimen and nearly going at the same pace. I just had 11 of 12 Taxol on Tuesday. Then, I switch to DD ACx4. Taxol was not that bad for me. I wasn't sick once. Pretty minor SE's, other than crushing headaches. A little scared of the AC, though. Seems to have a very bad "rap." They have prescribed me Emend and the dreaded Neulasta and I'm hoping these are the only meds I will need. I know everyone's different but I have talked to some who seemed fine on AC and some who said they were essentially incapacitated for many days. Wish I knew which to expect. Does anyone care to provide a list of any AC SE's? How is it different from Taxol?



    About the issues with family and friends, I haven't really shared the BC news with people
    outside of that circle. Some days,I don't want to talk about BC. Some people ask how I'm feeling but
    I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling and you can almost tell they don't REALLY want to know any
    details. People are pretty self-centered and their worlds only revolve around them, in general.

    Maybe, my pride gets in the way, though. I work in a setting with mostly men so, I usually dont talk
    about BC with them. They always ask how treatment is going and believe it or not, they've been more kind and interested than my female friends! Go figure!!



    Life lover, at first, I was munching stuff all day, with a slightly upset stomach (just off but not full nausea). After a week or two, this subsided, for some reason. It felt a little like morning sickness
    when I was pregnant. I have gained a few pounds from the steroids, I believe.



    Cyborg, have a great trip. I just got back from one last weekend. I swear I felt better and more
    relaxed because of it. I think it just helps to have something to look forward to and take your mind
    off the stupid cancer. Anything that helps.



    Hang in there, everyone.

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