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Hi

I had acupuncture for neck pain a few months prior to diagnosis which really helped.  Now a few months down the line after diagnosis, and suffering from previous neck pain along with stiff and painful joints thanks to letrozole I went back to physio.  But she refused saying acupuncture is contra-indicated with people with cancer except as pain relief in palliative care.  I've had a look at the research and can't find anything significant, and just wondered if anyone here has any information on this.  I'm wondering how well-informed she is.

Thanks

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  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited July 2011

    Never heard of that - in fact I participated in a clinical trial at Johns Hopkins Kimmel Cancer Center which was testing if acupuncture could help relieve joint aches and pains for b/c patients on aromatase inhibitors. The acupuncturist was a medical oncologist as well as an acupuncturist.  If a world renowned institution like Hopkins is willing to try acupuncture to relieve AI aches in b/c patients, then I think your physio is mis-informed.  I'm sure others whose oncs have endorsed and even recommended acupuncture will jump in.

    Perhaps a statement from your med onc could set her straight. 

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited July 2011

    I had acupuncture while going through chemo, from an acupuncturist recommended by my onc.  It did help, I had no difference in side effects from chemo with acupuncture as without, but I certainly don't think its contra-indicated in people with cancer.  I believe most integrative cancer centers offer it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    Hi, sarana,

    don't know what planet your physio is on, but Dana Farber Cancer Institute in Boston, MA, has a Complementary Care Center which offers acupuncture.

    And if you google Tracy Walton, in Boston, MA, you will find she specializes in acupuncture with cancer patients who are most DEFINITELY not in pallative care.

    There is strong evidence  acupuncture helps reduce inflammation, and many women have found GREAT RELIEF from some of the symptons of AI's by using acupuncture.

    I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE how much relief I've gotten from my acupuncture treatments - no more joint pain.  

  • sarana
    sarana Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2011

    Thanks all

    Don't you just love to hear from others what you believe to be the case!!  I'm on the UK planet and this was an NHS physio.   I'm also a researcher who knows my way round evidence, but still concerned that I was missing something by wanting to go ahead.  I can now either go private and get somebody who believes in it, or get letter from oncologist to said physio and have her grudgingly administer.  Think I'll go private.  But thanks again for confirming what I believed.  Think its maybe a case of worrying I'd blame them if it ever returned - which it never will I've decided!!! 

    Natsfan - could you give me a few more details of the trial you were on, is it completed?

    S

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    sarana

    I lived in London for years.  I'm amazed to hear that from an NHS person.  My local "surgery" was always suggesting various homeopathic treatments - mine for allergies which went WILD when I moved to London from the States - really helped.

    My acupuncturist also uses a great deal of "Chinese Medicine" - and it's that which is keeping my hay fever completely under control.  

    Good luck finding someone.  If you are near London - Neal's Yard, off Covent Garden used to be a good source for this kind of treatment - but I'm thinking of about 25 years ago ;-)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    NatsFan

    several studies also being conducted at NIH, in Bethesda MA.  Friend emailed me one - don't still have it, but will try to find more information about it.  It was a doctor from the Harvard Medical School ( In Boston, MA, for sarana - very famous medical school in the States) who was doing the study.

  • thenewme
    thenewme Member Posts: 1,611
    edited July 2011

    Hi Sarana,

    Hopefully you'll be able to find someone more helpful! 

    Here's some information from Memorial Sloan-Kettering, one of the leading cancer treatment centers in the US, about acupuncture:    (CLICK HERE)

    "Bottom Line: Acupuncture is effective in treating some symptoms associated with cancer treatment.

    Acupuncture is a component of Traditional Chinese Medicine and involves use of needles, heat (moxibustion), pressure (acupressure) or electricity to stimulate one or more points in the body to promote the flow of Qi (internal energy). The World Health Organization supports the use of acupuncture in reducing symptoms, such as depression, facial pain, headache, peripheral neuropathy, lower back pain, nausea and vomiting, neck pain, postoperative pain, shortness of breath, chronic fatigue, hot flashes and side effects caused by radiotherapy and/or chemotherapy. Acupunture also reduced symptoms of sneezing, itching, and runny nose in children with allergies, and may be useful against allergic rhinitis in adults when used along with standard medications. Acupuncture also improved pregnancy rates in women following in vitro fertilization, but did not provide pain relief in women undergoing induced labor.
    Acupuncture treatments are generally safe and well tolerated by most patients. Some conditions may require continuous treatments in order to achieve long-term effect.
    Cancer patients considering acupuncture should seek certified or state-licensed practitioners who have training or experience in working with cancer patients.

     

     

  • sarana
    sarana Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2011

    Thanks again folks, much appreciated.  I'm torn between gather lots of evidence and presenting it to the dept who I feel are working on dodgy guidelines, or just forgetting that option (free as it is) and just finding someone who believes in it.

    But any info on studies from reliable sources would be great.

    S

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