Great saying about depression
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Jen- I never used to think any thing of the heat but about the last 5 years it's really been getting to me. (Sign of old age?) But the rest of the year it is gorgeous and you get a lot more house for the money. My DH is from CA (Burbank) and I know he would love to move back but not sure I could deal with all the traffic and such. Kind of comfortable in my little corner of the world over here. You guys should definitely come for another visit, though (when it cools off) and we could get together!
DiDel- I'm heading out to get my drink on, too! Our neighbors are having a "happy hour" and then the gang is going to go hear a local band and dance. We'll have to draw straws to see who the DD is going to be. Hope you had fun tonight and we're able to take your mind off everything. (((hugs)))
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Didel - how terrible! Know today will be difficult, so thinking of the family and of you and all you have been through.
Rowen - So glad the surgery went well.
Kate - hope you had fun!
Barb - wow, lots and lots of options - always good.
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Didel: Big hugs today!
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Well I have been off this topic for a long while and just caught up, wow. I know a few of you are on other topics with me and are up today sort of. So I am back here because I need assurance. Recap; Had BMX in May 2010 with recon (TE). Had bad infection 10 day after surgery in right side (tumor side) and had TE removed, continued with treatment chemo. Then in Nov. attempted surgery again to replace TE and had problems so had it removed again. Did rads in Jan. 11 (on right side). During rads I decided not to continue with recon. I still had TE in left side and made a decision to remove it but had to wait due to work issues. On June 23 I had the TE removed with excess skin. Or so I thought. I now am in a deep funk because I do not feel he took enough skin. I have a followup appointment with PS on the 13. I called last Friday angry and talked to the nurse. She called back and tried to reassure me. PS said the skin will contract and tighten up. I do not know if this is a bunch of hooey. I know the TE has been in over a year and has stretched the skin but still. I thought this would be over. I guess I am asking too much for immediate results and need to have patience that it will work out. I wanted both sides to be even, I know the left side will not be the same as the right due to the two surgeries and rad but. I am just not happy about this whole recon experience. A co worker asked me how it was going, she did not know about the cancer. She told me about her friend who went through BMX and had recon, about how wonderful it turned out. I just wanted to cry. I have decided now to talk to a therapist about all of this. It is all so frustrating.
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mjbmiller: I am so sorry to hear you are going through all of this! Rads always causes problems with recon! I don't know if your insurance will cover this, but check out Dr. Khouri at the MiamiBreastCenter.com who does amazing work with women who have had radiation! Big hugs get some help and you do have options!!!
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Miller, you can do this!!! He may have misjudged your skin elasticity OR you may have delveloped slight LE. I demanded that my surgeon make me totally flat as I was NOT going for recon and didn't want him to leave me excess skin 'in case I changed my mind'. I was ADAMENT!!!!
After the surgery, I was very pleased with my right (non-cancer) side but the left was too 'droopy' if you know what I mean. I went in for an excision revision (sounds like Dr. Seus was doing it!) and had excess skin taken away. When I went back for the post op, he was stunned! He said he took a huge chunk out but it was still a bit puffy. Not so bad and I could live with it. He sent me to a PS but thank God I saw my onc in between. She said I had mild truncal LE. The PS would have made it soooo much worse if I'd had yet another surgery!!!
So, when you see the doc, make sure you don't have a seroma (fluid) built up where you think there's excess tissue. (I had a very bad one after MX and figure that's why I got the LE.) Then have him do an incision revision. He'll learn that you meant NO recon, when he has to clean up his work! It can be done, rememeber he had to guess how well your skin would react. That's why one side is okay.
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Barb - great advice and LOL on the Dr. Seuss reference - now that might be an amusing BC book as there has to be a ton of those and add in some of the wacky word definitions and ... well sounds like a best seller to me!
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Barbe - how long after your first surgery did you have the revision.
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Miller, I had my surgery mid December and my revision in April. They wanted to make sure the healing had done all it was going to do. FYI, I did NOT see a 'tightening up' that your docs are talking about. Massage the area when you can to try to get the fluids moving around. I was religious about massage every night.
I think the rads have probably killed every benefit of skin anyway, but think if the doc had taken TOO much and you would have a wound that wouldn't close! There are women on the boards here that have had to pack wounds for almost a YEAR before they would finally close. So the surgeon has a fine line he can cut. So when you give him hell, think of it the other way, too!
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mjbmiller- So sorry for all you've been through. This whole BC "journey" can be one long damn car ride, huh? Something no one tells you about. I agree with barbe that you should tell your PS you do not want to wait. You want things fixed now so you can move on with your life. If they won't help you I'd schedule a consult with someone else. Since you originally tried the TE's I'm assuming, though, that no recon was not your first choice. Like MBJ said, I'd encourage you to check out the Dr. Khouri at the Miami Breast Center. (miamibreastcenter.com) Since you already have too much loose skin you would probably be an excellent candidate for fat grafting. They would lipo it from somewhere else and use that space and fill it in with the fat. How big you get depends on how many rounds of fat grafting you do but even with one surgery you would have a small mound. The surgery is not too bad. It's about a 5 day recovery at most. Just wanted to let you know you have options. You can also find more info at fatgraftpatients.com. I just had a revision with Dr. K in May so feel free to PM me anytime. (((hugs)))
barbe- LOL on Dr. Seuss, too!
Last night was great fun! My DH bailed after taking our DS to the water park all day but some of the gang went to hear the band and dance. Felt great to get up and move!!!
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Barbe -- your comment about how some women have to pack their wound for a year until skin closes, that is just awful ! When I count my blessings, not having had any complications with recon so far is definitely one of them !
Miller - that said, I feel bad for you and hope you can get what you need from PS. Thinking of you!
Kate - sounds like you had a fun night ! And to answer you from another thread -- next time we get to Arizona I would love to connect with you !
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Thanks for the thoughts. I am not considering other options as one side now has loose skin and the other side I flat and firm. I will be taking to the PS for revisions and if I am not happy about his answer off we go.
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Just checking in because I was away for a bit at my daughter's house (while they are on vacation!) It was nice to have some alone time. I got to see Jimmy Vaughan at a blues house that we have not too far from here. It was amazing!
Rowen, I'm glad your surgery went well...that must be a relief. Kate, I'm from Burbank, too! I live in the Sierra Foothills now. I don't think I would ever move back to the city unless I had to.
DiDel, so sorry to hear about those sad events. Two funerals would take quite a toll on anyone much less people dealing with cancer. I'm thinking of you.
I was telling Jen that I just received my notice for my Mammo in the mail. This is the first time that I had gone 12 months between. I haven't wanted to cut loose from my surgeon because he seems to be so on top of everything. Whereas I would probably fall by the wayside with my follow up without him. I don't get reminders from my oncologist office and my surgeon said that he would take care of me for as long as I need.
So I'm feeling a bit sick again over the mammo. This is year 5 for me as I said before. And it's not so much that it's a hurdle to get over because of the rate of recurrence, it's something about a dream that I had. I may try to get my appointment moved up because I want it over with.
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Bubbies, you're smart to move up your appointment. I am ER+ too, and it is a slow growing cancer, so we don't have to worry UNTIL the 5-year mark!!! I pray it is yet another scare and not cancer returning......
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iambubbies- I don't think my DH would want to move back to Burbank, either. Maybe San Clemente though! Sorry you are nervous about your mammo. I know you had a dream regarding your DX, too, so I can see how that would shake you up but just keeping telling yourself the odds are in your favor. I can't remember- did you have lumpectomy or MX? I had BMX and they called me to schedule my annual mammogram. I said, "Sorry, no mammies to gram!" My BS said the only follow up would be office visit with breast exam. What is everyone else doing? Just curious.
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love your answer kate!!!!
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Kate- my bs does a hands on exam along with an ultrasound...my visit last month she even gave me a simulated implant inside of a fake boob with dangerous lumps in it for me to feel so I could at least attempt to know what I was feeling or looking for.
I go back to see her in December.
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annettek- Wow! What a great idea! I've never heard of a doctor doing that but they should with everyone. Very cool! I might have to ask about the US, too. Thanks!
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i 'll tell ya, ladies, it just gets better.. it seems that those strange test results i didn't know were kidneys and liver; which were not good... so, that changes everything.. i'm in shock; but i'm trying not to freak out; but, really, i've been feeling so bad, ya know i have...NOW, im really nervous... oh well, nothing i seem to do hurries any of the drs. up; so i just gotta wait.... hope everyone had a good wkend... 3jays
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Kate: San Clemente is gorgeous!!! I get a mamo on my rt side and a US on my lt side.
Annettek: Every dr should have that in their office
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3jays: Sorry you have to wait and hoping your test results show B9. Hugs!!
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3jays- OH, HUGS, HUGS and MORE HUGS! Tests suck and waiting for results sucks even more. Sending positive vibes your way that it all turns out o.k. and that you just have a chocolate deficiency or something! (Hmm, wish I had that!) Did they tell you when you should expect the results back?
MBJ- Love, love, love San Clemente. My MIL has a condo walking distance to the beach. Of course, that means I have to visit my MIL to use it so it's a trade off! How far are you from there? We get out there occasionally.
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Kate: I would so drive down to just hang out if you let me know in advance that your coming!!! It's about an hour and a half drive I think. How lucky are you?
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Hi all! Thank you all for all your support and thoughts I truly appreciate everyone of you ladies!!
I'm a late night stalker tonight...my niece is with me and my sister stayed the weekend since Natalie (niece) was at field hockey camp near my house. The funeral Saturday was beyond heartbreaking. The man who passed Fergy, was the youngest in a very Italian family. His parents, GOD bless them were inconsolable. They are Italian and both parents were whaling sobbing the entire time (3 hrs service) and both were practically carried in and out of the church. The whole family was just so broken up it was hard to see. Fergy coached his sons soccer team and they all showed up in their uniforms. They're probably 10 years old. They were crying their little eyes out the entire service as well, actually everyone was. I will say what a loved man he was the church was so packed people were standing. There mustve been over 400 people. There was a lot of great stories told as well that made you laugh or smile. His brother told a story of how the fourth of July (the day before he died) was not what it was supposed to be, how his plans had changed all day, he saw his kids at the pool even though it wasn't his weekend, he had dinner at his parents with his girlfriend despite their previous reservations, he sent an email to a friend apologizing for a fight they had, and he told his brother how amazing the fireworks on the 4th were and how it was the best day of his life. I think all these things helped his family have a little peace that they spent that last day with him and made memories that will last. I still just can't believe he is gone. Ok new topic...
Kate your quick wit cracks me up...I love your response to the drs office ...I get a mammo every 6 months on lefty and an MRI once a year. I go over these results with my BS who does a very thorough feel up and US.. I asked him to if he could not be so rough and he said ...this isn't a social visit...he uses that line all the time.
mjbmiller Sorry you have had such a hard time with the recon. I will tell you my skin for sure tighten up and I had my TE in for 9 months at 800ccs then implant at exchange is 600. I would definitely get another opinion Im not sure if your situation would take more time or like you said another procedure.
3Jays sending more positve vibes your way for B9 results!! waiting SUCKS
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DiDel- I'd like to take credit for the "no mammies to gram" comment but I stole it from our own BCO member, anniealso. Talk about a quick wit!
Sorry about your sad and emotional day yesterday. My heart goes out to his family. What a horrible loss for all of them. My Dad was also killed in a car accident (killed by a drunk driver actually) and it's incredibly hard when someone you love is ripped out of your life unexpectedly. There's something about not being able to say good bye that leaves a constant lingering grief. -
My bs scheduled me for an u/s of the area around my breasts/foobs for a year after my DM. She did a manuel exam at three months and said she would repeat that after the u/s.
I too, got a note in the mail last month for my yearly mammogram and my husband asked me if I was going to go. Guess, since DH has never wanted to know any of the nitty-gritty of what's been going on, doesn't get it.
Kate - your answer to the mammogram notice was too funny!!!
I think if I don't laugh then I'll cry..........
Kate: never been to San Clemente but I've heard it's beautiful with moderate weather. I would love to move back to Kauai but my husband won't budge and this is the only home my son knows plus I get Medicare here. With Medicare and our private health insurance coverage, it makes all these surgeries not so costly but I could of had one h... of a vacation if I took all the money I have spent on medical bills this last year and one-half.....very expensive foobies.
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3jays--my thoughts and prayers are with you.
I'm having one of those days where everything seems a little off--I think it's post surgery something-or-other, but I have a lot for which to be grateful and am enjoying reading all your posts.
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justagirl- My DH and I were dreaming of a return trip to Italy but spent it on out of pocket costs. So depressing when I think of all the wine I could have consumed instead!
rowan- Going under general anesthesia can really do a number on us and afterwards I always feel a little off for months. My doctor told me for every hour under it takes your body a month to fully recover. With 5 surgeries I'm think I'm still in the red! Research shows that going under can cause short term memory loss and trouble with concentration which would definitely make you feel out of sorts. The older you are the longer it supposedly lasts. (Hope I'm done having surgeries or I'm screwed! LOL!) Anyway, I'm sure you'll be feeling like yourself soon! (((hugs)))
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Uh Kate So sorry about your dad. Another friends dad died that way too and you are right it's just so fast..gone. So sad and hard to process.
I don't have it in me to type much tonight..don't know what I am feeling today. tired mostly.
Have a good night all!
Diane
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Well I will be going to my BS yearly for exams, no mammos for me. So I will alternate with my GYN. One in the spring and one in the fall. Both are females for personal stuff. Had a bad experience with a male GYN never go back to another one. My PCP is male though.
D - prayers for the family.
We prayed for a couple at church. They were hit head on. Wife was 8 mo pregnant, baby did not make it and lost the ability to conceve. So not only do the have physical healing but emotional as well. I count my many blessings each day.
3jays pray that your results are b9 as well.
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