On That Roller Coaster Again

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pupfoster1
pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

It's me again, worrying about something else that I can't figure out.  I've mentioned back pain before, but this is weird now.  It's in my mid to lower back area to the left of my spine, more in the tissue.  Doesn't feel at all like a muscle pull or the like.  It's been hanging around for several weeks now and I have just tried to ignore it and hope it will go away.  I've also had some aches under both arm pits including the "non" cancer side.  Can't feel any lumps or bumps, but that in combo w/ the other thing has me worried---again. 

I feel like sometimes I'm a Debbie Downer here, but I don't know who else to talk to.  My husband must think I'm a total hypochondriac by now, and yes, so far everything has checked out OK.  I just don't want constant worrying to end up being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Any advice would be appreciated, and just thanks for being here..............

Sharon

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  • Romansma
    Romansma Member Posts: 1,515
    edited July 2011

    I don't have any advice, but just wanted to say hello, and hang in there. I know I worry all the time too. I will be finishing radiation finally next week and I've had this recurring headache on the left side of the back of my head since before I was diagnosed and now I have numbness in my left hand. So now you know what I fill my brain with when I have a free moment. I hope you find some answers soon!

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited July 2011

    hey Shar, just checking in and saw this. I think our bodies do have more aches and pains after all the treatment, but it is a total b*(#@ figuring it all out. I think radiation does waaaay more lasting effect than the docs say - it would make sense (and I support radiation as a treatment tool, but just noting it is quite powerful).

    I guess I would keep an eye on it, also reminding yourself that you've done really well so far. And you're not a "debbie downer". You're just being honest about the emotional roller coaster that is cancer/survivorship/ etc etc.

    thinking of you today. will PM you later - off to a baby shower shortly.

    xo

    janyce

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited July 2011

    should add: if we're being concrete, if it "feels"  more like the tissue, it probably is, which in my mind (obviously a layperson's interpretation, for what it's worth), just that, and maybe less to worry about?

    omg what a run on sentence. sorry about that!

    xo

    j

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited July 2011

    NOT debbie doiwner.  you are coming to the place to put it out there and get some responses.

     bottom line is that you are scared....immediately after treatment...and often times a few years later...ANY ache or pain is scarey.  so, yeah, just keep putting it out there; people will respond.

    we can't reasure you that it is nothing; all we can do is support you and offer suggestions.  anything that continues to be bothersome...whether you feel it or not...(ie..lumps) should be taken to your onc.  our doctors WANT us to be ok; they EXPECT us to come in with aches and pains to have them checked out. 

    it really does take a long time to get used to your post treatment body; and all the side effects from treatment.  additionally, the healing is a long term event.

    i was "crazy" for a few years after i finished treatment; iam sure my peeps thought "why doesn't she get OVER this"  but alas...they had not experienced what i had experienced.

    i wish i could help more; wave a wand to make everything better.  but, i can't. 

    stay in the moment; just do today.  follow up with your onc if necessary.  keep on and don't give up.

    Peace**

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited July 2011

    Have you considered your kidney? Not for cancer, but for stones. I had weird back pains for a couple YEARS before they finally found out my kidney was slowly dying off! Thank God we have 2 kidneys, just like breasts. Oh wait! I don't have any of those.....

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited July 2011

    I'm sorry you're having another scare, such is our life now I guess.  Its always something it seems, I posted weeks ago about my hip/back, it hurt for more than the 2 wk rule, in fact it hurt for over a month.  Dr. said it sounds like piriformis syndrome, gave me some muscle relaxers (I didn't take them) but you know what it slowly went away on it's own.  I'm not saying that's your problem, just saying I think these drugs just do weird things to us and then it doesn't take much to pull or injury things either.  I'm trying to listen to my gut and not my mind because I can't trust it for aches and pains anymore.  It sounds like a good thing that it feels soft tissue, so we can rule out bone, kidney's are definetly an option but so is refered pain.  You're no Debbie Downer, you had bc & this is what we do....I hope you find comfort and relief real soon.  Try not to worry until you have a real reason too.  Hugs and prayers going your way.

  • SpunkyGirl
    SpunkyGirl Member Posts: 1,568
    edited July 2011

    You're totally not a Debbie Downer, Sharon!  I, and we all, go through such a roller coaster with this whole thing.  Honestly, I felt what you are feeling at one time for about three weeks.  Couldn't figure out what it was, and then it was gone.  I hope the same happens for you.  I am so thankful that we can come here anytime and everyone will understand and know to support us.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited July 2011

    Sharon, I knew what you meant when you said "tissue" rather than bone. When I had my pain, it felt better when my husband pressed his fist into the area that hurt. Little did I know that was actually stopping the spasms of my kidney! Kidneys are funny animals....and I don't mean hehehehhee funny.

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited July 2011

    Thanks everyone.  It DOES help calm me to hear your voices here.  I thought kidney too, but not sure if it's deep enough to be that.  Anywhoo I am going Monday for a bone density scan, and then if I'm still in pain I'll contact my GP to start.  Just would like for it to disappear on it's own.

    So glad I have you all to vent to!!!!

    Sharon 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited July 2011

    Sharon, they didn't even consider my kidney because of how high it was in my back. Apparently my kidneys ARE very high up in my back!!

    Bone density won't help on any diagnosis for this, but will at least give you a reason to call your doc for results. Is that what your thinking is?

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited July 2011

    My Gyn thought I should have one since the chemo kicked me in to menopause.  I really didn't think it would help for this either, but after that one is done I'll see what they might want to check next if it doesn't go away!!!!!!!!

    Sharon

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2011

    Sharon, it's all the crap that we go thru that makes us crazy now with every pain.  I'm still going thru pain in my right hip since all the scans, and now that my onc has cleared me as NED, my mind still wonders into the what ifs.  Talk to your onc.  I get the pain in my bones and joint and spine and that makes me really worry, but also the deep tissue pain even gets to me because then I'm wondering if all the cancer treatment has caused fibromyalagia. Breast cancer and treatment gives us such head trips.  I think it's post traumatic too.  Swear I sound like a hypocondriac to myelf when I complain to my husbandUndecided

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  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited July 2011

    Sharon,

    this is why we are here!!!!! We are all in the same boat !!! You are not a debbie downer, you are just

    surviving your new normal. We have to deal with these aches and pains, they come and they go.

    My hip has hurt me for a long time. I have had a b one scan, and it still hurts! Sometimes more then others. I think we have all earned the right to be a hypochondriac!!!!!! You are in my prayers!!!!

    Lots of cyber hugssss

    Stephanie

  • orlandpark65
    orlandpark65 Member Posts: 106
    edited July 2011

    You should call your doctor. My onc said that if it's non stop pain and doesn't go away to call and meet with him.   I just scheduled a massage.   I go to Northwestern Hosp in Chicago and they offer 5 free messages to breast cancer patients.  Taking advantage of that.  I'm hoping that will cure all my pains.  I thinks most of it is stress related.  

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited July 2011

    You just reminded me I have a massage gift card from Mother's Day I haven't used.  That might help a lot!  Thanks girls for being here.  Still watching and waiting on what to do next.  We leave on vaca the 23rd and I don't know if I want to stir things up right before we go or wait until we get back.  One part of me wants to put it to rest, but the other part of me worries that if I wait and it IS something bad if the waiting could make it worse.

    Thanks for listening,

    Sharon

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited July 2011

    Sharon,

    I've got to add my 2 cents. 

    Note: I say 2 cents but it seems like I can't ever write a post that's less than $1.95 worth of words but the total value is about 2 cents!  BTW - whatever happened to the cent sign?  They were on the old typewriters!

    I have tried and tried to feel better.  I still go to the physical therapist.  I do my exercises.  I take my pills. I try not to take the vicodin until I really need it (tylenol, aspirin, aleve, motrin don't help).  But no matter what I do I have my good days and bad days.  And lately there have been more bad than good.

    I am not a hypochondriac and I am sure that you aren't either.  It's not our imagination.  We get pains that we've never had before.  Sometimes for a day and sometimes for weeks.  I was hoping my getting off Aromasin would bring me some relief.  My feet are a little better and my hands a little better but it's been 3 weeks off and I still get headaches, swelling in my hands, on/off hip pain and today my lower back is as tight as a drum.  The only good thing is that I'm weaning myself off paxil and I haven't noticed any deteriation of my moods.

    I don't have answers.  I've been struggling to find answers for myself.  I just wanted to let you know that I'm in the same boat.  Why can't we have  just have a positive attitude and we get our old bodies back?? Grrrr!

    I just went through the same thing on the vacation bit. I was feeling pretty bad but I was scared to go to the onc and find out negative news right before we left.  Specially because it was a wedding for my late sister's daughter.  I wanted cancer out of my mind during her special day -- I knew she was wishing her mom could be there and I didn't want to be a reminder.

    Well, hubby insisted I make an appt.  He was right.  Everything is negative.  That's when the onc said to stop taking the Aromasin and we'll switch to something else after a 4 week reprieve.  I also asked for something besides Ativan since that does nada to help me sleep.  The Xanax works much better for me so at least I have a crutch if it's one of those anxiety nights.

    The vacation would have been much worse if I hadn't gone and I was still thinking those "what if" thoughts.  My body didn't improve much but my attitude did. 

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