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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2006
    I forgot-Kaye, you are simply an amazing person, and I continue to pray for you and your family. I truly love and respect you, just as I do with all women on this board. Thank you for your honesty and your courage.
    Debbie
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited January 2006
    I'm a little spooked tonight, have blood in urine since this afternoon. Yikes, hope is not serious. Anyone else experience this?

  • spirit3kd
    spirit3kd Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2006
    Odalys~ It is so nice to hear that your friend went on ten more years. I hope I do the same!!

    I don't know if I posted a response to the person that asked me if I was doing alternative, like meditation, etc.
    Yes, I am....I try to meditate daily, not much room in my travel trailer for that. (don't know if I mentioned that I live in my travel trailer)I listen to New Age music, I love Cusco, Nicholas Gunn and Enya.

    Today I went to the Indian Casino, had so much fun and since I am getting some strength back, managed to stay for about four hours. I ended up coming home with an extra $68.00.

    I like the idea of a younger boyfriend......lol....I have an older boyfriend right now, that can't think of anything but drinking beer...and I hate that. He is 60 years old. We have been friends for over eight years. Good thing we never got married because I wouldn't be able to stand his beer breath every day.

    Since I am single, I often worry about getting into a new relationship because of the mastectomy on my left side. I never had reconstruction, just wear a silicone prosthetic breast. I think it would be really awkward telling someone I am missing a breast?

    Hope all of you are doing well......Hugs, Kaye
  • spirit3kd
    spirit3kd Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2006
    Hi Debbie~ Hope you are feeling better.....there is nothing worse than feeling sick to your stomach all the time. I am one of those people, that have a phobia about throwing up. I hate it !!

    My only chemo treatment was on Nov. 28th and then they stopped them. I have lost just about all my hair. I had just a few strands of grey hair about chin length left and I finally buzzed it off. Got tired of it in my food, my drinks and choking on hair on my pillow.

    I still am losing stubble, so that must have been some mighty strong chemo !! I haven't shaved my legs or armpits since November. I worry that my hair may never come back, but then again I tell myself, that if hair cells are still being killed off, then cancer cells are still being killed. My stub hair seems to be totally grey now. I was salt and pepper, about 70% grey before I started chemo. Every morning I have stubble all over my pillow and I wear hats, so I see that I lose it in the hats too.

    Hugs....Kaye
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited January 2006
    Good morning everyone. Hope you are all having a pain free weekend. I am couch bound with the aches and pains from this last Taxotere treatment and Neulasta shot. Hopefully start feeling better tomorrow or Tuesday. It stinks that my down days are on the weekends and we always have so much going on and I don't stay home like I should and rest.

    Nancy, I know what you mean about the Neulasta commercial, but it works. I have on my refrigerator the ad where it says "I'm ready", I'm ready to fight my cancer, I'm ready to take on chemotheraphy, I'm ready for a family vacation. I look at each every day and think about our Disney trip in Sept.
    Odalys-I believe it that the Taxotere/Neulasta shot laid you up for a week. You have a great attitude that nothing is going to let you down. We will come out winners. I do get the nose bleeds and crusty blood. It is very annoying. I don't know about the blood in urine, although I did spot when I first had Taxotere. Can't hurt to call Onc. on call.
    Liz- glad your cold is getting better. I do feel the same way with the steriods. I go from high to low very easily. I feel sorry for my husband and kids. LOL!! They just leave me along then.
    Debbie- I talked to my onc. about the energy level and he said I am borderline anemic and to take iron pills. Do you take the iron pills. The constipation is pretty bad from them, right? I know what you mean about the light at the end of the tunnel. I am not seeing that at this point. When you have metastic disease it gets more complicated. I just hope this Taxotere keeps the lung spots inactive and shrink this mass. So who knows how long I will be on chemo. But I will get there, we all will.
    Who is having treatment this week?

    hugs to all
    Kim
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited January 2006
    It's so good to hear from you, Kaye!

    Last day before Taxol/Herceptin treatment #2. I can't complain. No nausea, no pain, nothing except a little swelling in my hands the first three days. I can tell getting this every week is going to get old mighty quickly. I already dread tomorrow and I have no cause for dread.

    I'm going to try to get the Christmas tree down this afternoon. I simply can't bring myself to do it. What's my problem?

    I have a head full of soft stubble, too. Can't keep my hands off it. My husband calls me his Chia pet.

    I'm starting to think I'd like to try to take off some of the weight I've put on since diagnosis. Maybe only 10-15 pounds, but I had 10 or so extra even before. Strange, no food appeals to me except for almond toffee, and I don't even have any of that, yet I do eat. I guess all I eat is in the rice/bread department, and that must be what makes me feel so bloated.

    Anna
  • c2et
    c2et Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2006
    Hi everyone:

    Good luck to everyone having treatment this week.

    Odalys, did you call about the blood in the urine? In the past, when I've had bladder infections this was one of the symptoms along with burning and frequency of wanting to go to the bathroom. I hope you are feeling better.

    Wed. will be treatment 5 for me. Last week had low white blood counts (neutrophil # .4), got Neupogen and hopefully my WBC will be high enough for treatment.

    All the best
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited January 2006
    I was in the hospital for 3 days, Fri- Sun . Just wanted to send love to you all. I have really had it rough....Pain kicked in and blood counts down very low, fever of 102.4

    No shot till the 31st, so I know it wasn't that. Next treatment will be the 9th. I am really thinking I wish this was over.

    I tried to catch up on post , but to many.....And I am to tired now. I will return...HUGS, thinking of you all.

    Hugs to our special Kaye
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2006
    Oh that was too cute!!! "Special Kaye!" My students used to call me that because my last name starts with K.

    I feel really good and am EXPECTING to feel as good on Thursday with Taxol/Carbo #4 on Thursday. That's right!!! I'm GOING to feel GOOD!!!!

    Mary Lou-Hope you are on the road to improvement-will pray for you especially hard tonight!!!

    Kim-I have to get iron through my port every week!!! ICK. I guess it makes me feel better, but I just wish I didn't have one more thing dripping through my body. And yes, it sure does constipate me!!! YIKES!
    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited January 2006
    Mary Lou,
    Hope you are feeling better today. Lots of hugs and postivie thoughts coming your way.

    Kim
  • c2et
    c2et Member Posts: 28
    edited January 2006
    Hello everyone

    Kaye, I'm glad you are feeling better.

    Kim, I hope you are feeling better.

    Anna, I hope your treatment went well.

    Gee Mary you've been through alot lately. I wish you a speedy recovery.

    Debbie, all the best to you on your treatment day.

    Love to all
  • lucky951
    lucky951 Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2006
    Hi to everyone in the Dec group. I am actually in the Jan 06 group. I am getting my 3rd of 4 AC treatments tomorrow so am looking to my next treatments which will be 12 weekly Taxol/Herceptin treatments. Have any of you started your Taxol yet? I am not finding as much info on it as the AC and would like to be better informed.
    Thanks
    Lucky951
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited January 2006
    Mary Lou- Hope you feel better soon. Taxotere has turned out to be quite a powerful drug. Sending many hugs and positive thoughts your way. Together we can do this.
  • spirit3kd
    spirit3kd Member Posts: 37
    edited January 2006
    Mary Lou~ sending you many Well Wishes and Hugs....sure hope your feeling better after that Hospital stay.

    That was a pretty high fever and you probably had a low white blood cell count. When I got my bronchitis I had a white blood cell count of 1.5, they said that was pretty low, the doctor put me on antibiotics, but it seem to come back right away when the antibiotics were gone....mine just had to run its course and finally went away. I had a sore throat for a about six weeks.

    Hugs...Kaye
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited January 2006
    Sorry to hear you had to go to the hospital, Mary Lou. I hope you are feeling better.



    Thank you, Glyn. I went in for that second treatment today and it went okay. Much dozing all day long (Benadryl induced) and now I'm up for the duration (Decadron, I guess).



    I taught my daughter to knit while she was visiting over the holiday and I have been knitting ever since. That's all I want to do these days. I have made scarves for everyone in my family and then some, and I am thinking of knitting a throw. I'm going crazy with the knitting.



    It's not like I don't have enough other projects I could do with my hands. I am an avid quilter and do everything under the sun, piecing, applique. I have enough ideas to keep me busy for many many years. I also love to watercolor paint. Something keeps me away from my paints now, though. They make me sad.



    But right now knitting feels right. No brain power involved. Just comforting repetition. Warm, soft wool. Pretty yarns. Knitting takes me to a very gentle place.



    Lucky951, I am on the same program as yours (4 A/Cs, followed by 12 weekly Taxol/Herceptins, followed my multi Herceptins). Feel free to IM me. The Worried About Taxol thread and the HER2 girls thread on the Help Me Get Through Treatment forum are good reading if you want to prepare. Up to now I'm finding it even easier than the A/C. I say even bec. I took EMEND during A/C and never felt nauseous. Queasy, yes, but the Compazine helped there. My nurse asked me all the "have you had any side-effects" questions this morning and when she got to the question about joint pain and I said none yet, she said she doesn't see joint pain with those who get Taxol weekly and who don't get the Neulasta shots. The trade-off is the extra weeks we have to go in. I sure hope she's right about the joint pain not being an issue, though.



    I found the effects of A/C cumulative, namely, the fatigue was huge starting after #3, and the desire to hurl whenever I caught sight of those popsicles became overwhelming.



    What has been really hard lately, though, is the mental stuff.



    I should stop here.



    Kim, how are you feeling?



    Good luck and my prayers are with you on Wednesday, Glyn, and with you on Thursday, Debbie, and with all my sisters who are going in for treatments this week.



    Anna
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited January 2006
    Anna,
    feeling much better today. It is my legs that I wish would just stop hurting. I had major meltdowns yesterday because Anthony (dh) and I have been talking about changing our diets and we have no idea even where to begin. We have been looking at supplements (so many), low fat/high fiber, alkaline etc etc. I don't even know where to begin and cried to him last night that I just want to go back to the way things used to be. Anyone else starting a specific nutritional plan? I am going to order a book on Amaszon that someone suggested, Beating cancer w/ Nurtition. We will see.

    Kim
  • AnnaM
    AnnaM Member Posts: 1,387
    edited January 2006
    Are you getting any help for the leg pain, Kim?

    In terms of nutrition, I really want to get off the rice, yoghurt and pining for almond toffee plan. I think it's more important to try to stick to good fats (olive oil, etc.), good fibers (whole grains, etc.), lots of veggies and fruit and some key supplements. You don't want to get involved in a plan that's too terribly complicted.

    Our local hospital system has programs for cancer patients, all free of charge. There are not only workshops on nutrition for living free of cancer, but also one-on-one sessions with a dietician. Check into your local offerings. Wherever you find cancer support groups should be a good place to start.

    Anna
  • Graycie
    Graycie Member Posts: 839
    edited January 2006

    I am not going on any special diet but I am going to try to eat healthy. My doctor told me to stay away from the white stuff..white potato, flour, rice and pasta so I am going to try that and I am going to eat more fruits, veggies, whole grains, low fats, etc.....and I am staying away from junk food and sweets. I know it will be hard but if it helps keep the cancer away I will do anything. Exercise is important too... Graycie

  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited January 2006
    I saw the onc today and he has changed me to Taxol, and back to the every 2 weeks schedule. DD, and back to the Neulasta shot. He thinks the Taxotere was to much for me. I think so too.

    You all were speaking of eating better, I have returned to Weight Watchers, they have a core program that is very good. I eat core foods, but count points. I just can't stop when something tastes good.

    It is easy and works.....I have many friends that have lost 100+ and 200+ lbs. Check out the wwfamilyforum.com and see for yourself. Scarlett Bee is a friend of mine and also Freemefromfat is another. Moolissa37 is also a great buddy.

    Carla, (free me) does the infomercial for the firm now. Weighed 251 and is now at 137, she is a wonderful person. Moo, Moolisa37 is on the 3aday.org site, and has lost I think 116LBS. She is a cool girl too.

    And Betty, ScarlettB is a big inspiration, he DH died on the table from GBS. Check out her story too.

    I have been back on program for about 3 weeks and have 6 lbs gone so far. I think I was using the cancer as a crutch, and I knew that I needed to fight this from getting me again. I will be as healthy as possible from now on. I have learned a big lesson.

    Sorry to go on and on, I just get excited!

    Thanks to you all for the well wishes. It really has been a rough few days. I need to know how the Taxol will be, any idias?????? I hate the unknown part of this whole journey.

    I have been a cry baby too, glad I did start back on weight watchers, takes my mind off of all this, and makes me feel a little better about myself.

    I need to have something in my life that I can control. I want to get ready for my life after cancer, and I don't want to be fat anymore.

    If I want to be my best, I must do my best.

    Good luck to you all this week sisters, and a big hug to you all....

    Special Kaye, if I could I would give you a great "BIG" ((((((HUG))))))

    ML
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2006
    Lucky 951 and Mary Lou, you will both just LOVE taxol compared to what you have already gone through. I am being a little overly loving about taxol, but I think you get the idea. It is really much MUCH easier to deal with.

    I am preparing for week 5 of my 12 week taxol/carboplatins stint. I am almost halfway through it when I look at it that way!!! YAY!!

    So are any of you still able to feel your lump/tumor? I can still feel mine, but I really have to search for it, when before, it was SO obvious.

    Praying for you all (especially you, Kaye!!!), Love, Debbie
  • kim825
    kim825 Member Posts: 284
    edited February 2006
    Mary Lou, I hope the Taxol treats you much better than the Taxotere did.
    Debbie, it is funny that you asked that question about the lump. According to my PET scan my lump was 5cm. But OMG my boob is huge. I know 5cm is big, but to tell you the truth I don't feel a change in the lump. Onc. said I could have a lot of dead fatty tissue there and that is what I could be feeling. He didn't seem worried I still feel like this thing is huge. Worries me though. Also, when you have mets like I do, they are more concerned with what the medicine is doing to the mets spots.

    I'm curious, how big were all your lumps?

    hugs,
    Kim
  • Mary-Lou
    Mary-Lou Member Posts: 2,230
    edited February 2006

    Thanks Debbie, glad to hear the Taxol will be better. Will I lose hair, or will it grow? And what about my nails? My eyebrows are so thin now, and I think I have lost a few eyelashes too.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Kim, My lump never got an official measurement. They thought originally that it was 2.5 cm, but when I had the breast MRI, they found that it extended to my chest wall, and is anywhere between 5-7 cm. They won't give me a measurement. I wasn't feeling a difference in the lump until I started the taxol/carbo.

    Mary Lou, Well, funny you should ask about hair, etc. My hair is growing back on my head and legs (BUMMER about the legs!!), but I noticed today that my eyelashes are going?!?!?!?!? ACK. Also, my fingernails get progressively more and more icky each day. But you will FEEL better!!! Remember that!! I'm willing to have icky fingernails in exchange for feeling normal, and having a now insatiable appetite!!!
    Gotta go-Daniel is awake (about an hour too soon!!! Gheesh, the kid just doesn't nap anymore!!!).
    Love and prayers, Debbie
  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited February 2006
    Mary Lou- glad to hear you're doing better. How scary to end up in the hospital with low blood levels. I hope your body adjusts better to Taxol, sure don’t want you to experience anything like that again. I’m thinking of starting Weight Watchers to loose around 30 pounds. How does one even begin WW????



    Taxotere has not been easy on me either...had nose bleed X3 days, blood in urine and rectal, and terrible bone pain (day 3-7, on Oxycodone). My joints are a little stiff still, however, just came back from Onc and blood work is within normal limits. Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled blood work is normal but scared that one dose of Taxotere can cause so much havoc on my body. I have only two more treatments to go and Onc thinks if I take Decadron for 5 days instead of three I’ll be OK.



    Glyn - Thank you. Blood stopped as mysteriously as it appeared. Had urinalysis done and test was negative no infection. Onc can’t explain it either but we are both glad blood is gone.



    Debbie - happy to see you’re feeling good these days after all you’ve been through. I’ll continue to send positive thoughts your way.



    Lucky951 – Welcome. Hope your 3rd treatment went well.



    Anna – It sounds like you really enjoyed your daughter's company. I often wonder what it would have been like if I also had a daughter. It must be great having a daughter to share girly things with.



    Kim – Are you finding any relief for your leg pain? Is it muscular or bone pain? Hope you feel better soon.



    Ladies my hair seems to be growing back but is very uneven and thin. Eye lashes and eye brows are thinning. I’m hoping they don’t fall out completely. I’ll just have to continue penciling in my eyebrows. Nails are doing better, placing them in ice seem to have done the trick.



    Bye ladies...many hugs and best wishes to everyone receiving treatment this week.
  • LAT56
    LAT56 Member Posts: 79
    edited February 2006
    It's been weeks since my last post - dealing with depression and anxiety. I am also having alot of pain on the mastectomy site (surgery was 10/28/05). I received 4th treatment of ACF on Jan 30 and Neulasta shot on the 31. I am scheduled for bone scan & MRI tomorrow.
    I do find strength in reading everyone's posts.
    Thanks to all!!
    LAT56
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2006
    Hi ladies, I just got back from what was supposed to be my fourth treatment, and I DIDN'T GET IT!!!! My platelets are too low because of the carboplatins, and I have to wait another week!!! I am so disappointed. I guess in a way I should be grateful because this is the first time I have had to postpone treatment, and I know I need to trust my doctor's decision. The other thing is that I gained a total of 2.5 pounds since I was last weighed by the onc. and he totally scolded me!! I told him I had a week off of chemo, and therefore COULD NOT STOP EATING, but he yelled at me. I'm still down 12.5 pounds, and I know once I get back on treatment, I will lose more.
    Anyway, I hope you are all feeling good. Love and prayers, Debbie
  • Margerie
    Margerie Member Posts: 526
    edited February 2006
    Well, I am late to the party. 38 yo, Stage II, multi-focal, mastectomy, 5 nodes, er+,pr+,her2+++. I started my 4 rounds DD AC on Nov. 15th. I am now on week 3 out of 12 taxol plus herceptin. Definitly easier than AC. Starting rads next week. Will see if both together will be too much. Are we having fun yet?

    Best wishes to all of you! Sometimes this is so hard. Relaying all of these experiences sure helps take the sting out of it.
  • Graycie
    Graycie Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2006

    Debbie, Sorry they had to cancel your treatment and I can't believe your ONC scolded you. 2.5 lbs. isn't that much besides you lost all that weight. I was told that you will gain weight during chemo which I found hard to believe because I had no appetite.....I lost at the beginning of my chemo but I am gaining now too since I got off AC. I haven't got yelled at yet but maybe that it coming.

  • LizM
    LizM Member Posts: 963
    edited February 2006

    Hi ladies, I'm feeling pretty good this week. Even went to a Rolling Stones concert last night (bought the tickets before I was diagnosed). Had my 3 mo follow-up with my breast surgeon yesterday. He said my temp implants look really good and the real ones will look even better. We discussed whether I should have radiation after chemo. He doesn't think I need to have radiation but I am still on the fence. My radiation oncologist said I am in a gray area but has no problem with me also getting radiation. I am going to ask my oncologist next week for his opinion. I just can't decide whether to have radiation or not. I will probably end up going with my gut which will be to error on the side of caution and get radiation also. Anyway, I am not having too many side effects from the Taxol the 2d week. The first 4 to 5 days after treatment seem to be the worst with body aches and pains. I am scheduled for my 2d Taxol on Monday. Hope everyone is doing well with their treatments this week.

  • Odalys
    Odalys Member Posts: 2,103
    edited February 2006
    Debbie- Sorry to hear you could not receive your treatment and your blood levels are low. I can’t belief your doctor’s comment. It’s never acceptable for a doctor to yell at a patient. You’re an adult and deserve respect. What is the matter with him? With everything you’re going through, the last thing you need is an insensitive and uncaring physician. He should know that. His behavior was unprofessional at best. Besides 2.5 lbs could even be fluid retention instead of fat. It angers me that he treated you this way. Unfortunately, there are physicians out there that really lack people skills and have no bedside manners.



    Many hugs...

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