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  • ---
    --- Member Posts: 197
    edited June 2011

    Hi Everyone,

    Goodluck to those going back to the chemo chair this week.  I will be back for #4 A/C tomorrow, sigh.  Congratulations to Cyborg and MamaV, we are going to miss you here.

    Laureen

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    Good luck tomorrow Laureen! And anyone else in the chair this week. You will all be in my thoughts and prayers!

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited June 2011

    I think I will starting rads in August. I am having hot flashes. Was premenopausal prior to chemo. Haven't had a period in June and bled almost all of May.

  • DebRox
    DebRox Member Posts: 437
    edited June 2011

    I'm joining the hot flash club. They aren't too bad, but bad enough to wake me up at night and keep me awake. Ugh the gift that keeps giving!



    Good luck tomorrow laureen!

  • twistedsteel
    twistedsteel Member Posts: 156
    edited June 2011

    In the chair tomorrow. Taxol #6 of 12. Last week I took the Ativan drip that was always offered, but this was the 1st time I took it. SE's the week before were the worst yet, having a bad time, figured why not take a little Ativan vacation. Well, it makes the hour+ of Taxol fly by. I loved it. Also I took a Lomotil before the chemo, so diarrhea was stopped before it started. That was new too.

    The day 3 and 4 SE's were better this week. But from now on, I will take the Ativan IV as offered. No more heroic BS. Not gonna "push through it".

     Best thoughts for everyone in the chair this week. And to those transitioning to rads. Everyone here is in my thoughts constantly throughout the week and I talk about you to Real Life friends as though I know you.

    Cancer is a job. And I am constantly offered support groups and classes and alternative this or that, lectures, experiential workshops... but you ladies here, you are available 24/7 so when I get the urge to find support you are here. I don't have to drive anywhere. I don't have to "dress my head" with anything, dress my body with anything... just log in. I don't need more work in this job of healing cancer. I appreciate the social worker at my cancer center, but I am covered here.

    Anyone else know what I mean? 

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2011

    Did anyone have horrible sinus headaches on Taxol? I am experiencing them on days 3-4 after treatment. They last ALL day! Ibuprofen doesn't seem to budge them.



    Twisted steel: totally get it. This site is a wealth of info. And, it's so easy. Imagine back in the days of no Internet? Talk about isolating!

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited June 2011

    Good luck twisted steel and Laureen tomorrow. I drove down to San Diego on Wednesday and brought my mom up yesterday. I have been enjoying treating her like a princess. Tomorrow night I go to the Look Good Feel Better deal. I am looking forward to that. I want to let you guys know that I will poke my head in here after I finish chemo. I feel like you are my the people that I rely on to keep me sane through all of this. I have said this before, but I am afraid to stop chemo. It feels like I am "doing something" while I am on chemo. I know radiation will be "doing something." I just wish I could feel safe again. Essentially, the feeling of safety has been hacked down. I am enjoying time with my mom.

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2011

    Patriotic:  I didn't have headaches with Taxol, but have them with AC.  My doc said that they are probably for the nulestra shot.  Nothing OTC worked for me, so he said to take viciodin.  I hate the idea of taking a narcotic for "just" a headache...but with nothing else working, I gave in.  The onco-physiatrist talked to me about pain management last week and said that it is really important to keep it under control because pain is toxic to the body.  My doctors have been trying to drill into my head that all of my previous thoughts about medications and what is "good", etc., are not necessarily applicable right now because I'm doing chemo.  So...I'm trying to listen to my body and respond appropriately.  

    Having cancer is a full-time job! 

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited June 2011
    If cancer is a full time job, I want to quit it. Wink
  • Elizabeth1889
    Elizabeth1889 Member Posts: 1,036
    edited June 2011

    I know what you mean, Cyborg.  In a strange way, I am not looking forward to treatments ending because I feel safe while I am on them.  I guess I will have to get used to never really feeling safe again.  Thank goodness for all the friends we have here who truly understand our fears.

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2011

    Blonde lawyer, thanks for warning me about AC headaches. I didn't experience them on Taxol until around week 6. I get round #9 tomorrow. I find them more annoying and debilitating than all the other SE's combined. I agree with the doc about pain being toxic to the body. I took my BP over the weekend and it was elevated, due to the pain, I'm sure. I am now willing to take anything to alleviate them. Did the AC headaches begin right away?



    Wishing a good week to all in the chair this week.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 1,846
    edited June 2011

    Cyborg. I do that in between treatments I start to worry that my cancer is growing and I want my next treatment pronto. but of course have to wait. I am doing neoadjuvent, so after each treatment I worry that chemo isn't working anymore, even though I had great response after the first 3,treatments.

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited June 2011

    Patriotic, I have gotten AC headaches about 4 hours after my tx. They can be brutal, I take vicodin to tame them.

  • ---
    --- Member Posts: 197
    edited June 2011

    Hi Everyone - I am home now from my #4A/C.  As usual, sinus headache and nausea present.

    Cyborg - I am glad you are having a good time with your mom.  We will miss you, so visit us here every once and a while.  I would like to get tips from you about radiation tx as I will be doing mine in September, 3 weeks after chemo.

    Twistedsteel - How are you doing today?

    Laureen

  • neecee
    neecee Member Posts: 663
    edited June 2011

    To those battling headaches - I am on TC, and the Cytoxan is what gives me a headache. I had a never ending headache for about 4 days after my first treatment, and nothing touched it.  I talked to my onc nurse about it after my first treatment, and they added additional saline to my Cytoxan drip on my second treatment. It reduced the headache to a mild annoyance on treatment day, and was gone by the next day.  You may want to talk to your onc or onc nurse about the headaches, and see if they can do something like this for you.

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited June 2011

    This has to be chemopause, I am miserably hot :( and my temp continues to be 97.4

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    Beaglesgirl - that's what it is! Holy hot flashes - and under a wig - ug!

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited June 2011

    How long does this go on? Yikes, I guess I knew it was coming but it just creeped up on me.!

  • ksmatthews
    ksmatthews Member Posts: 812
    edited June 2011

    I have been having hot flashes and my temp is only 97.7! 

    Oh the Neulasta shot has made me hurt so bad.  This was the 5th one and the first one to even bother me.  I have been doing Claritan and Aleve.  Night time is the worst.  Today have had few aches so hoping tonight I can sleep without aching.

  • Beaglesgirl
    Beaglesgirl Member Posts: 287
    edited June 2011

    I'm sorry you have bad pain from nuelasta, claritin didn't work for me either unfortunately. I am trying it this time to, cause you never know...



    Appt at 8 am for my last AC tomorrow! On to 12 taxol...

  • rondajean
    rondajean Member Posts: 74
    edited June 2011

    havent been here for awhile and took a long time to catch up on the many many posts.  I am only half way through my 4 AC so i have been posting on the june wall...but many of you are getting close to being done :)  I am so happy for you.  I am anxious about tomorrow for some reason.  I really don't want to freak out my husband so late this evening but tonight would be a good night to have a stiff drink IF I COULD!!  I guess if this feeling persists i will have to ask the dr for something.  

    I really don't get much side effects so I am so sad to hear how many of you struggle with head aches.  I wish they would come up with some miracle drug for you all!  

    For those of you that had AC and then TX, is the TX easier?  Many say it is......just looking toward the end of the rainbow.

    Ronda 

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 327
    edited June 2011

    My headaches came in the second week.  My doc said that he thought that they were from the nulestra.  

    Had chemo today--man was it a  LONG day.  First, for the good news.  My oncologist was VERY happy with how my tumor felt and looked today.  I had noticed that my breast was less swollen and red in general, but wasn't sure if I felt a reduction or not, but he thinks that there was definite reduction.  He said that today he was the happiest he has been since he met me :)  I really do love my oncologist.

    I got my MRI report from that last MRI that showed that the Taxol wasn't working and holy cow, my tumor was over 8 cm (8.7 cm transverse to be exact)!  The first MRI had it around 5 cm, the second around 6 cm, and now the third at nearly nine.  That was over a 2 month period, with 3 rounds of Taxol.  Wow, all I can say is that my tumor is one aggressive biotch :)

    Infunsion today was good until the very end when I had some sort of allergic reaction--got hives and flushed.  Gave me more steroids (I can't remember the time) and watched me for awhile and they went away.  The nurse said that they will probably do more pre-medication next time because of this.  I didn't have any problems the first go round, so who knows.  

    The oncologist said that it will be time to talk to surgeons after my next treatment, so I am going to try not to think about surgery issues for the next two weeks--wish me luck :)

    I had a good weekend in Portland, but I'm glad to be home.

    Hope everyone has a good week! 

  • dlcw
    dlcw Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2011

    Hi all - checking in after a few days off.  Had dose #2 of Taxol last week and am doing well.  Days 3 and 4 are the worst - body aches, headache, general crappy feeling.....so far no significant hair loss - question for any of you that did Taxol first how long did it take before your hair was gone?  My onc thought it would be this past week but nothing so far.

    bk66 - saw your question several posts back about rads - yes, I will do them so will have had neoadjuvant/adjuvant/rads when this is over.  I had 3 of 18 nodes positive - 2 sentinel and 1 axillary and that was AFTER 6 cycles of the trial drugs (Gemcitabine/Carboplatin/PARP).  Of the women I've met on the trial, all of them that had disease left at surgery (even minimal disease) are doing follow-on adjuvant chemo - even those that had clean nodes. 

    Good luck to everyone getting chemo this week and I hope SE's are minimal.  I get dose #3 on Thursday.

    dlcw

  • Catmak21
    Catmak21 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2011

    A final read of all the great notesand tips before chemo tomorrow. Feel very fine just ready for next tsp. For me a shocking process to get here;



    First ever mammo nov - find small calcification say watch it / 0.7cm

    Feb - follow up with mammo /ultrasound , they say biopsy it

    April - biopsy say it looks fine - turns out DCIS /0.7

    April - second opinion different centre - they do tests again and MRI / find new areas / biopsy on spot and find invasive cancer

    May - skin saving mastectomy / first pathology says 13.9cm invasive cancer!!!!! 2nd path that week says only now 3.5cm invasive rest is DCIS



    So with all these tests andat different places things get missed - does this happen often?



    No lymph nodes thank god. Her neg. Estro ps.

    Onctype 48



    4 chemo doses and 7 wks radiation as giant tumor had small margins!



    Good time!!

  • 40-years-old-now
    40-years-old-now Member Posts: 309
    edited June 2011

    catmak21- Sounds like you had a roller coster of information. Make sure you get all your reports, you are intitiled to them, This might help possibly with the miss communication.

    I understand this is all coming very fast at you. Even faster for me. I found my lump in Feb 11 and had a lump in April 11 was told stage IV in May 11.

    Try to stay positive. That is the best. But get your reports!!

    Candice

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    Beaglesgirl - I can't say how long the hot flashes go on.  I've been having them since I about the 2nd A/C treatment (going for Taxol #11 on Thursday).  For me, at least, they come and go quickly but not before my head (only my head) breaks out into a sweat.  At work, I go into the bathroom and wipe off under my wig - pretty ridiculous actually.  As soon as I leave work, the eye lashes and wig come off and I just wear a cotton bandana to absorb the sweat.  I've always had a lower body temp (97.5) so when I go up to only 99, I feel like I'm in a sauna.  STUPID, STUPID CANCER!

    So glad you are done with A/C after today!  TAXOL IS SOOOOO MUCH easier - especially weekly.  The hardest part is emotionally gearing up for weekly trips and 12 weeks seems like a long time.  I'm done next week so I will be here to support you through it!  Except for mild joint pain (last week after #10 was the first time I had to take Aleve and Ibuprofin - so far this week doing better). 

     Rondajean - see above - weekly Taxol is so much easier on your body!  Some times I forget I had chemo - of course there is no forgetting the damn cancer, but sometimes I don't feel bad.  Been back to walking every day and am not bed ridden like with A/C. 

    Blondelawyer - you switched from Taxol right - now A/C?  I forget sorry.

    dlcw - Are you doing DD Taxol?  I heard SE are worse with DD than weekly.  Hope that's not the case for you.  Good luck on Thursday.  I'm in the Taxol chair thursday too.  I will think of you.

    Catmak - I found a lump 3 weeks after my very first mamo that showed nothing.  Had another mammo and usound same day - mamo showed nothing again but you couldn't miss that sucker on the usound.  Messed up.  Welcome to the roller coaster of BS that you just can't get off! 

    Trying to take this one day at a time - b/c no matter how much I feel sorry for myself, this day will end and tomorrow will be a new one!  I can't wait for the new one that doesn't involve BS treatment!

    Hugs to all,

    Vicky

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2011

    9 of 12 taxol today. Yeah! ;-)



    Dlcw: if you are starting with Taxol, your hair might weather this storm for 6-8 weeks or more. I started losing a bit at around week 3. But it's mostly just thinning, not coming out in clumps. After #8, the thinning is pretty noticeable (about 1/3 to 1/2) but no bald spots yet. It looks a little "ratty" but I have just been pulling it back in a ponytail and think it's less noticeable this way. None of my friends have noticed. You might want to wait to cut it off unless it's too difficult to stomach the loss.



    Really looking forward to the hot flashes! Ugh!



    Thanks for the info, MamaV. The only positive is that the menopause is accelerated. My non BC friends have complained about hot flashes for months/years!

  • Patriotic
    Patriotic Member Posts: 281
    edited June 2011

    Catmak21: my mammo missed my cancer. Nice! I had the mammo 6 months prior and they said it was negative. Of course, I did not know that dense breasts have a higher incidence of BC and the density makes it difficult for the radiologists to read. Knowing what I know now, if anyone tells you to "watch" something and come back in 6 months, RUN, don't walk to another provider, preferably a top cancer center or teaching hospital. Unfortunately, there are oodles of missed and delayed diagnosis stories here, particularly in younger women who were thought to be "too young" for BC. It's disgusting, really.

  • Sue53
    Sue53 Member Posts: 63
    edited June 2011

    MamaV, I get the hot flashes on my head too. I don't wear a wig, only hats and scarves.

    Does anyone else get spotting the first 1-2 weeks after a treatment?  I was perimenopausal before all this started.

  • MamaV
    MamaV Member Posts: 907
    edited June 2011

    Patriotic you are right behind me!  I can't wait to be done - only 1 more after Thursday!  What the heck good are these dumb mammos if they miss our cancers - ERG!

     Sue53 - I wear my wig to work, otherwise it's off :) 

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