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Lena
Lena Member Posts: 1,036

.....to get used to a BMX flat chest? And oh, can I also please have some cheese with my whine?

I feel like I'm condemned to wearing only black T-shirts and dark colored tops for what's left of the rest of my life...  :::::sigh:::::

 

I'm 3 weeks out from a BMX with no recon. Honestly, I was never REALLY able to decide if I even WANTED to reconstruct. OK, well, I DID want to, sort of, or, should I say, I liked the idea of having breasts better than not having breasts. I had been encouraged seeing in pictures how nice some recons looked and I got far enough with "research" as to figure out which kind I'd want, if only I could make up my mind to have it: either immediate pedicle TRAM or immediate lat flap depending on how discussions went with my oncologist and a plastic surgeon. But just as much as I wanted my Cs back, I had trouble deciding because I just as emphatically did NOT want additional surgery, protracted recovery/disabled downtime, and the complication possibilities which quite frankly scared the hell out of me. 

 

Delayed reconstruction didn't and still doesn't appeal to me at all because I know I would never be able to physically recover from the BMX and then go under the knife again for complicated procedures and additional pain for something non-medical.  I mean hell, if I'm already on the operating table for a medically necessary BMX, then yeah, rebuild me while I'm already there, and if all goes well I'll just take a bit longer to recover than from BMX no recon.

 

Call me a sissy and you'd be right, but I'm all into that "avoid all unnecessary pain" thing, KWIM?  So I decided to let the doctors help me decide -- I'd ask them questions based on a combination of my reconstruction research, my medical status/how knowing that, they could estimate how my body would react, and maybe their advice would sway me into a firm decision one way or the other. I had an appointment with my oncologist, and then one with a plastic surgeon. The oncologist was first. She had never suggested reconstruction to me, though now that I was mentioning it, she was willing to discuss it. However, she said immediate reconstruction of any kind would be a terrible idea for me medically, and even delayed if it would ever interest me still only got a yellow light: "We'll see, depends how you do with this surgery and maybe radiation." Can't say I was really surprised though, I do have IBC with skin involvement. I even had to have skin mets removed while having my BMX.

 

Soooo.....the cancer decided it for me: No reconstruction.  Well like I said, I had also considered the idea of no recon too because I'm such a sissy about pain. No recon =  faster recovery, less surgery, less pain and lack of recon-related complications, and additionally, I can't exactly say I hate the idea of not having to wear bras or have mammos ever again. I really am mostly a "wash and wear" type; I only occasionally and minimally fuss with appearance issues; I don't wear makeup (I can't be bothered), can't wear jewelry anymore since the only ones I like besides rings have tiny clasps I can't manipulate and my pierced earlobes closed up, and the only things I do with my hair are wash, condition, air dry and comb/brush. Even when it was long: I wore it long and loose. Well all I NEEDED to 'feel like a woman' was my long hair and (medium sized) breasts. Now I have neither, but that's another matter. Back to the chest thing specifically: Sometimes I do like to wear clothes that aren't sexless T-shirts and jeans, at least during the summer. 

 

Well you know, I do  I realize how given both my medical reality and preference for wash-and-wear easy grooming low maintenance with only minimal concerns about clothes: flat is really CONVENIENT. The problem is, though, I don't think it looks good on me at ALL! Actually, I think it looks TERRIBLE -- totally unfeminine! I feel like if I wear black or dark colored T-shirts my chest is sufficiently "hidden," not as obvious, so if I stick with black and dark, I can manage to go out and about doing my normal business and only occasionally feeling self conscious about having no breasts. But my lighter colored pretty summer stuff, which I used to love to wear, IMO looks horrible on my new flat chested body. There's no bust darts on any of my clothes (I didn't like bust darts even when I HAD a bust), but even so, my pretty summer clothes just plain old don't look right on me anymore. With each outfit I try on (I've been through half of it so far), I  look empty and deficient in the chest region, and/or, depending on the outfit, I feel like I look like a man in a woman's clothing. 

 

Even worse, by the time March-April hit I'd finally lost all the weight I'd set out to lose so I was expecting to look GREAT in my summer clothes which I didn't wear at all last summer because I was too fat! Also, being slim now (5'5, 120 pounds --  this time last year I was one week into the diet I started because I weighed 155! :-O), I supposedly should be able to "carry" flat chested not only way better than I would have if I still had the ginormous Midsection from Hell, but when I started trying those clothes on, I actually pulled them out of the closet thinking maybe the flat chest might not be so bad, that it might even accentuate my new slimness (which I LOVE), giving me a "sleek and slinky" type of way to feel sexy....but as it happened, I looked awful in all the ones I've tried on so far, for FOR NO OTHER REASON than the flat chest.  :-{

 

And I'm kind of stuck with it now too -- prostheses would be a real pain in the butt for me (yeah just watch me try to get breast pads or forms into a bra pocket when I have only the barest rudimentary amount of motor coordination in my left hand), plus, I've already gone out and about doing regular activities (albeit only in black or dark colored tops since they hide my chest) so by now, I'd feel just as stupid going out with a stuffed bra as I feel embarrassed by how my flat chest looks, and now my Pack Rat actually said to me on the phone last night when I told him "I'll probably have to give all my "nice" clothes to Goodwill because they look bad on me, they don't work at ALL with a totally flat chest, "Sure you could stuff a bra if you want, it's up to you, but you're fine the way you are and I really hope you can just get used to your body the way it is now, for real." 

 

So then....can anyone tell me: how long does it actually TAKE to get used to a flat chest?  Will I EVER be able to like my body this way?  And also, what gives here -- my man obviously loves me anyway and he made it quite obvious that he still finds me sexually attractive by "restarting the fire" -- so what in the hell is wrong with me here that I feel embarrassed by the very same body my Pack Rat is apparently still happy to keep jumping my bones?!

 

....or should I be saving this tirade for my psychotherapist...?

 

:-{     :::::sigh::::: 

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  • browniefranks
    browniefranks Member Posts: 87
    edited June 2011

    Dear Lena,

    please feel free to vent! This disease is a beast, that takes away so much including our very view of self.  Your feelings are valid. Normal is gone, you'll have to try and capture some form of normal every day, but feel free to let out your anger and frustration! I hope your recovery is going well.

    Take care

  • GointoCarolina
    GointoCarolina Member Posts: 753
    edited June 2011

    Gosh,you are so much like me,I could have written this post..except for the losing weight part!!I have been feeling so ugly,I have never had short hair and havn't been flat since before 6th grade.My husband's birthday is next week,we have plans to go out.My usual outfit would have been jeans,a low cut cleavage revealing(tasteful) tank and a cute jacket or shirt.I used to wear my beautiful antique necklaces, but have not wanted to draw attention to my flatness and port scar.I started trying on clothes and ended up blatting..I feel like an ugly man...Then a package arrived in the mail,it was  a pair of microbead breasts forms...I put on a bra that does not hurt on my ribs( I am still very tender from surgery in April and I was afraid the forms would hurt on my chest) I stuck in the forms....they didn't hurt!!!............I went to the mirror and there I was blatting again..but this time because it looked like the girls were back!!!I have no cleavage,I am OK with that for now,but just to know I can wear some of my old favorite clothes is a blessing to me.I am still planning recon,microfat grafting,because like you,no way am I into a lengthy surgery and recovery,been there,done that.But now I can get through the summer and feel a little bit more like me.I am sure you could manage these forms,I hate most mastectomy bras anyway,they are ugly and uncomfortable and expensive.So while I can't say I am loving the chest I have right now,at least the clothes struggle is over..now I have to find a talented hair dresser...and lose a few pounds...I was pretty much feeling like giving up on trying to look good....who knew these two little puffs could change all that!!

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited June 2011

    I'm glad you found a solution, panda. :-) But breast forms aren't going to make me get used to the flat chest. I mean as soon as I get undressed, I'll be having reality smack me in the face anyway so I think I'd probably be better off if I could just somehow learn to deal with it and to like my body the way it is NOW. I'm just wondering if there's anyone out here who might have but couldn't do recon and ended up with a flat chest they initially found unattractive and unfeminine, but learned to actually LIKE their new flat BMX body and how long they took to make the adjustment, or, women who immediately liked being flat and where they feel their sense of "physical femininity" is coming from without breasts.

  • lisa-e
    lisa-e Member Posts: 819
    edited June 2011

    It has been about three years since my BMX.  At this point I am used to the way I look.  I am not thrilled my flat state but I don't think about it that much.    

    I rarely wear forms - too much of a bother.   

    I like to wear button down shirts over a tank top or cami.  How dressy or feminine I look depends on the material - silk or linen are dressy, while cotton is less so.     I also wear tee shirts a lot, but don't limit the colors.  I like wear earrings and bracelets as they help me feel more femine and are fun.  

    You might might want to look at the breast free site to look at ideas how to dress: http://www.breastfree.org/

  • Jing
    Jing Member Posts: 22
    edited June 2011

    Hi Lena:

     You sound a lot like me, I hate to fuss with clothes, hairdos, and makeup.  They just don't make me feel any better about myself.  I am also very slim, 5' 1" and 102 pounds. 

    I'm also three weeks out from a BMX and I like my new chest as my surgeon did a great job and the scars are minimal.  I do not look as deflated as I feared.  Of course, I was pretty flat to begin with and most clothes did not look right on me since I have pecs that made my boobs disappear (since they were so small) and then on top of that, one of my boobs was too low on my chest.  Now that I'm really flat, I find that I actually look better with a slightly more fitted shirt than before - why, because it clearly shows that I have a waist like a woman should.  As for wearing dark colors - screw that idea.  A bright color (I love sporty/fitness shirts) in my opinion does not make you look any flatter and women usually wear brighter colors anyways.  I do agree that you probably need to avoid most shirts that have darts.

    Anyway, my DH also loves my new slimmer profile as he calls it.  I actually look better now after the surgery than before - sad but true.  Give yourself time.  I've been out in public a lot and no one seems to notice at all, really.  Carry yourself proudly because you just survived a BMX and that is no small thing!

  • Lena
    Lena Member Posts: 1,036
    edited June 2011

    OMG Jing, looks like you're physically just a slightly shorter and lighter version of me almost, and wow, oh wow, what your husband said about your new body also almost echoes what my Pack Rat said about mine last night! I finally took off my shirt in front of him and showed him The Chest...He said I looked sleek and streamlined and it really looked good, he even added that he thought my body was in better shape now than it was when he met me! :-O

    Well okay then....guess I'll have to prune my wardrobe to "stuff that makes me look sleek" and when I give the non-sleek to the thrift shop, try to find a couple of slinky items or something....and hope THAT makes it easier to get used to (which he said he hoped I would do before I showed him the bare chest). See, for good or for bad, it's still a major change, and I have to admit I usually don't do change all that well.

    Thanks Jing for telling me how it is for you. 

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