Rant about cheese

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hymil
hymil Member Posts: 826

I like cheese. It is so easy to cook with, so simple to just fix a quick sandwich.

I know it is usually full of fat so i buy lower fat cheese, and I like my cheese mild. I don't agree with factory-farmed cows, and my lump was ER+ so I am shying away from artificial hormones and going organic when i can. I do this with eggs, veg, fish, poultry and the occasional bit of meat too, but especially aware about dairy.

So here is my rant. Why is it that can i get organic cheese that is mild but high fat, organic cheese that is low fat but mature extra strong, low fat cheese that is mild but factory farmed, but NOWHERE can i get all three options. Is is technically impossible to combine these three simple options, is there a REASON they can't get it right for me? I'm not even staying in the budget shops, although i would like to, they just don't seem to make it.

C'mon cheesemakers, help me out!

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  • Claire_in_Seattle
    Claire_in_Seattle Member Posts: 4,570
    edited June 2011

    Hymil.....I have done market research on cheese, so the first thing you need to know is that really low fat cheese is nasty stuff.  They put all sorts of other ingredients in it to give it decent texture.  It is still vile.

    This is with conventional cheese.  So don't even try for this one with organic.

    This gives you reduced fat and full fat options.  There is some decent reduced fat cheese (these are findings from American consumers).  Again, reduced fat cheese usually has extra stuff added to improve texture.   It is usually not quite as tasty as the full fat versions.

    So I think the answer is quite simply that it is very difficult to make a reduced fat cheese without adding stuff to it.

    Organic cheeses are usually made by specialty firms that are of course showcasing their ability to produce something "unique".  This normally does not equal mild.

    One thing you can do is stay away from "aged" cheeses.  The ones relatively close to the date of production are much milder.

    Good luck.  One option is to eat less fat elsewhere and enjoy the cheese you like.  Milk is much easier.

    Agree with you on the eggs.  I get from the farm with roaming chickens where possible.

  • apple
    apple Member Posts: 7,799
    edited June 2011

    Cheese should not be messed with.. I personally love good cheese and it is just about my only indulgence.  One needn't eat much... i personally love UN-mild.

    Good luck on your cheese search.  It seems a nice cheese shop should be able to help you out.

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited June 2011

    Thank you both. I never knew there was so much in it. Thinking about it, i don't have a lot of other fat, apart from the very occasional barbecue or all-in cooked breakfast as a special luxury, so maybe should just go with "a little bit less of what I like".

  • Member_of_the_Club
    Member_of_the_Club Member Posts: 3,646
    edited June 2011

    I was thinking about this exact question.  My husband is on a low fat diet and I was wondering why Whole Foods didn't sell any low fat cheeses.  Now I know.

  • NatureGrrl
    NatureGrrl Member Posts: 1,367
    edited June 2011

    hymil, that's what I do -- don't eat it very often, but when I eat it, I get what I love.  Life is too short to eat stuff that I can barely stand to put in my mouth :)

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2011

    According to this study alpine cheese is best, that is, cheese made from grass-fed cows from pastures ca. 3,000-6,000 ft. above sea level, for their cardioprotective properties. I met a nutrition scientist who told me that. Same goes for high-altitude milk and butter.

    http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/109/1/103

  • Heidihill
    Heidihill Member Posts: 5,476
    edited June 2011

    link to article (http://www.sciencenews.org/20040124/food.asp)
    Some excerpts below:




    Mention omega-3 fats and most people think of fish....

    However, some plants also produce omega-3 fats in abundance. The carbon-chained backbone of these plant fats tend to be shorter than the 20- and 22-carbon version typical of fish oils, so the omega-3 fats are different. On the other hand, chemical reactions in the body can elongate some plant fats to fishy lengths. Moreover, even at 18 carbons, the plant-derived alpha-linolenic-acid (ALA) omega-3 can contribute to heart health, research has shown.

    In general, cheeses are fatty foods. However, Jürg H. Beer of the Canton Hospital in Baden, Switzerland, and his colleagues now report finding that cheeses produced in alpine areas around Gstaad hold a more heart-healthy mix of fats than do cheeses made from the milk of cows grazing at lower altitudes. Not only were alpine cheeses highest in omega-3 fats, such as ALA, but they also had relatively low concentrations of saturated fats and arachidonic acid, a fatty acid that can promote inflammation in the body. As an unanticipated benefit, cheeses made from the milk of grass-fed alpine cows exhibited the highest concentrations of the unusual trans fatty acid, conjugated linoleic acid, that a number of studies have linked with cancer prevention.

    Beer acknowledged to Science News Online that even alpine cheeses "can't compete with fish" as a source of omega-3 fatty acids. The plant-derived omega-3s aren't as abundant nor as consistently of the preferred length as the fatty acids from fish are. However, Beer notes, for people concerned about mercury contamination of fish or who just like cheese, alpine varieties appear to be a heart-healthy choice.

    Beer's team reports its new findings in the Jan. 6, 2004 Circulation.


    ....

    Most people living in industrialized countries consume an average of 55 grams of cheese per day, the researchers say. That much Cheddar would supply 62 milligrams of ALA daily-a mere 22 percent as much as an equivalent amount of alpine cheese. In other words, just swapping one cheese for the other could increase daily ALA consumption by 210 milligrams. The Swiss researchers cite data from a 1999 Harvard study indicating that increasing the ALA content of the U.S. diet by 210 milligrams per day might cut the population's risk of fatal heart attacks by 15 to 20 percent.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited June 2011

    Please forgive me for butting in here, but I can't help pointing out that the author's name is "Beer".  A fine cheese to go with a tasty beer, anyone?   :)

    otter

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited June 2011

     Laughing  And with Switzerland being entirely land-locked, his options for fish are somewhat limited. Healthy mountain cows, healthy mountain cheese, yes that figures.

    I'm now wondering about goat's cheese. I think they go to higher altitudes than cows can, or can live on rougher ground at least. And i think most goat cheese is organic anyway. Will have a look. Thanks for all the ideas.

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited June 2011

    I have also found it frustrating to find organic cheese that is not low fat.  Sometimes I have settled on European cheese because they do not allow any hormones to be added over there...it is banned.  I sometimes get Finlandia lowfat cheese at Costco.  It is not organic though.  Otherwise I opt for the organic cheddar that Costco also sells (can't remember the brand) but it is not lowfat.  I do also buy European feta at Costco that is from Greece so again there are no added hormones and it is not made with cows milk like most American made feta cheeses - but it is not organic.  The information on the alpine cheese is interesting.....thanks for posting that. 

  • peggy_j
    peggy_j Member Posts: 1,700
    edited June 2011

    Do you have any small cheesemakers near you? Maybe you can email and see if they'd consider expanding their lines (might be untapped market). I'm reducing my dairy but when I do I definitely want it to be organic.

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited June 2011

    We have a farmers market on Saturday mornings I will have a look around there. But I think they will all be for strong flavours.

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