Chemo May 2011
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Marybe, thank you for the insurance suggestion for the wig. I do have the prescription. I'm also visiting my local wig bank after chemo tomorrow to see what's there, assuming I have the wherewithall to walk over to the wig bank. It's not far from where I'm having chemo.
Cyborg: you were doing so well for so long and here you are with one thing after another. So sorry to hear about your unusual SEs, we're all sympathizing--and empathizing--with you.
I'm doing my last laundry and cleaning before Chemo #1 tomorrow, 5/17, cytoxan & taxotere. I had no instructions beforehand but have an appointment with Onc first. They said allow 4 hours, bring blankie, water, lunch, and whatever I want to read or play with. I am taking just about everything I hear from onc's and surgeons with a grain of salt as they seem to minimize SEs and gloss over details I ask about, and they are just the most optimistic sounding people I've ever talked to. After spending the weekend totally stressed out, today I seem to be in a state of suspended animation--to my surprise. Mixed feelings: dread combined with relief that the wait is finally over.
I'm going to got to bed early and take a newly prescribed Ativan. As I'm still having pain if I wear a bra I'm going to take a pain pill and an Ativan before heading off to chemo--got approval beforehand, to my surprise. It's a 120-mile round trip. Poor DH--he's going to be driving me to and fro. Hope I at least make it back home before any SEs start. The Onc says normally they start about the 2nd or 3rd day. Hair loss and black nails guaranteed. Will report back
Thanks to all of you for sharing your experiences and feelings. They really mean a lot, and I have come to depend upon this board for support. Sharing it all makes it so much more bearable.
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I have been an emotional mess today... Ok maybe for three days. I saw my docs on Friday (both of my surgeons) and they both said I am doing well with my BMX/TE's but the pain continues. It is exhausting. Plus I feel overwhelmed with fear with my first chemo tomorrow.
I have had a serious case of self pity and I know I will only make this harder on myself if I don't snap out of it. Some of you ladies have such great attitudes - I admire that. -
Hi Beaglesgirl,
Sorry to hear you're not feeling well lately. It sounds like you have a lot going on your plate in such close time intervals. Having pains from your surgeries and upcoming chemo treatment can be overwhleming. I imgaine myself feeling the same way or even worse if I am in your shoes.
I was given 3 weeks to recover from my mastectomy and ALND before starting chemo. Is it possible for you to request a longer recovery time if you so feel you need it?
Goodluck and I hope things pick up for you soon. WE are all here for you!
Take care,
Laureen
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beaglesgirl, go ahead and give yourself permission for a bad day! This all really sucks! Having pain is not easy to deal with, hopefully it will get better very soon. I think once you start the chemo, your fear will diminish, as you are fighting the beast, the docs will take good care of you. I also admire all the great attitudes here, as we are all going through a tough time and I think it is ok to just rest and let your feelings flow, the next day will be a better day, I know as I have been in some very dark places in my mind, and then the next day I feel good, you will get there. It seems like it is going to be good days and bad days ahead, just make sure to rest on your bad days, and do something you enjoy on the good days. Can they give you something more for the pain?
Laureen, I am on the same ac schedule as you, maybe a day earlier. No hairloss yet, went to look at wigs today and did not like any of them, so more shopping. It is hard trying on wigs with still having hair-they kinda pop up even with the cap to flatten your hair. Also, I have a big head! Bought a cute hat, but I want to find some hair! Has anyone ordered from online? Way more selection, but what if you don't like it?
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I would like to walk with you all through my chemo. Tomorrow, May 17 is my first day.
T/C (Taxotere/Cytoxan) every 3 weeks x 4 for me.
Checklist:
Lots of water: check!
Dexamethasone: check!
Plenty of medications available for various side effects: check!
Am I ready? Maybe. Am I scared? yes!
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Laureen - my hair started coming out when I brushed it on day 14 post A/C and then came out by the handful on day 16. I had long hair so had it shaved on day 17. I just couldn't deal with the thought of waking up to a pillow full of hair and a bald head. My insurance company wouldn't pay for a wig and the free one I got from the American Cancer Society was pretty bad. Hubby splurged and bought me a beautiful wig that you can't even tell it's a wig. Thank God for a good tax refund b/c it wasn't cheap! I figured I'll be wearing it for probably a year, so it's worth it.
Beaglesgirl - I've been there with a self pity BAD, BAD day. Just go with it. If you need to cry, then cry. Tomorrow will be a better day. Just get through this one and know we are all here for you.
Sunshiny and Ruthii - good luck with round 1 tomorrow. The anxiety and fear before chemo is the worst! Let us know how it goes!
Vicky
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Beaglesgirl, don't feel bad. Sometimes right in the middle of feeling fine, someone says something a little offputting, or maybe I pull out a blouse that I just can't wear right now, or maybe it's nothing, but whamo, the tears just start coming. Is it self pity? I don't think so. Personally, I think it's a form of grieving--for our lost flesh, for our lost looks (or at least our familiar body), for our prior lives, for a life without fear--a dozen and one things. This is all just a tremendous adjustment trying to accept a new way of being. Coming to grips with the knowledge that we will be tested and examined for the rest of our lives. And then pile on the fear of the unknown and the waiting--the delayed lab tests. How can we not be upset? The good thing is not everyone is upset at the same time, so we at least have friends here to help prop us up on our bad days. When all else fails, have a rip-roaring bawling session and see if you don't feel better. Works for me
Hey, SunshinyDay, you and I are having the same drugs, both starting tomorrow, except I'm getting them x6. The surgeon told me x4, but the oncologist said he would only do 4 if I was having severe side effects--otherwise he preferred 6.
Good luck to us all.
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Yes it is a grieving process...I truly believe that. You are all so brave...sometimes I feel so scared about the unknown future. Ruthii, you reflective my feelings exactly. Good luck tomorrow for everyone , whatever point in this that they are at.
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Back from UCLA. There all day. I have sone antibiotics on board. Man. It was weird. I felt so strange. Thanks for the shouts, ladies! Starting to get my brain back. I am going to read through the posts I have missed.
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Welcome back Cyborg! Rest up.
Thanks MamaV and bkj66 for the hair loss sharing. I guess I'll have to find out sometime next week if it's my turn. I have three wigs sitting here and will go to the hairdresser tomorrow for trimming. Bkj66 - have you contacted American Cancer Society? They give 1 free wig for each person. I got one from them that needs trimming.
Goodluck to Ruthii and sunshinyday tomorrow! I will keep you in my thoughts.
Goodnight everyone! Tomorrow is yet another day:-)
Laureen
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Welcome sunshinyday! I think it is part and parcel to be scared of the unknown! Chemo is Not fun but rarely as bad as you imagine it will be! getting prepared is a great coping mechanism, I lived at my local pharmacy before my first treatment !
Day 14 for me and my hair is hanging on for a little bit longer- I am doing scarves n hats as it is winter and doesn't look out of place now!
I am seeing the MO for checkup after 1st chemo and will run the pre chemo fasting idea past him for next chemo next week. I have a few extra pounds so dont think that weight loss will be a drama and would like to reduce dependency on drugs for control of post infusion SEs- the nausea, constipation and gastro shock was my main gripe! I PMed windlass who had posted that she was fasting pre 1st chemo ( with MO approval). she reported that fasting for 48 hours pre/ 24 post dramatically reduced SEs- she had 2 rounds of fasting pre treatment first and 1 round chemo without fasting for comparison.
Update- discussed the pre chemo fasting the oncology fellow and she was very open to it given that in my situation there are no other health issues! I will post with the outcome - next treatment is 24/5/11 and I will want my birthday cake 5 days later!
Good luck to sunshinyday and Ruthii for tomorrow!
Cyborg- hope you are turning a corner for the better! What day post chemo did you start losing hair?
Happy Tuesday everyone! -
Robyn_S started losing hair day 14 exactly and I am doing TC.
I don't know why but I keep thinking "hair today. Gone tomorrow"
Called my salon to see if I can get in to cut my hair down more. -
Had my first chemo yesterday and turns out it was no where near as bad as I had imagined. I also had packed a bag of stuff and didn't use a bit of it except the Ipad to entertain myself. They even brought us lunch. I go back for my neulasta shot today so I took a claritin last night and again this morning and will take another this evening and one tomorrow. When I asked the oncologist nurse about it she just shrugged and kinda rolled her eyes but said it wouldn't hurt anything. Since all the other suggestions I've read here have helped me I decided to try it too.
When I went to my chemo class before starting the chemo, the tech suggested starting L-Lysine a week before treatment to prevent the mouth sores. He said if we still get the mouth sores to up the dose to get rid of them. I've been taking one 500mg pill everyday since I have problems with sores off and on normally. I haven't seen this suggestion so wonder if any one else has tried it. I read it is very effective for cold and canker sores. I had also read it helps to suck on ice chips during the time the T/C is given so I did that too.
So far my only SEs has been a mild headache and mild vision problems for a few hours after taking the dexamethasone. Ok maybe add mild brain fog after going back and correcting the bad grammar and typos here before posting.
For those having heartburn it was suggested to take Nexium or Prilosec which is otc now. I already take a prescription med for acid reflux so didn't need to do this.
Had my long hair cut to a pixie last week. Had always wondered what it would be like to have short hair so now I know. Sure is easier to take care of but then my hubby said it made me look older
which was definitely the wrong thing to say. Not looking forward to the loss and have been procrastinating on ordering some turbans. They gave me a tie scarf yesterday at the cancer center so at least I will have something but guess I should get my order in today.
Will see my oncologist the 26th and ask about getting some anti anxiety med which I sure could have used before my first chemo and after my surgery.
Hope everyone is having a good day.
Susie
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Hey Steff66. Just wondering why the experts did mx instead of lumpectomy? I'm thinking if my stooges team had taken mine when I found it (very small) I may have had the same kind of decision to make. My new med team has said they probably would have ordered only rads no chemo. I would have happily said NO! To the chemo and said if cancer shows it's ugly head again, then I'll chemo it out. But I would not have seen the statistics as a guarantee that it won't return. We have no guarantee now. Now having said all of that, why a mx? Did they do biopsy? Did they scan, ultrasound, etc? There are women with any invasive type cells that say Absolutely get chemo. I say if it's necessary do it if not, just keep a very tight follow-up schedule with mammos and ultrasounds etc. Then if it becomes necessary, do it.
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Hope all goes well for the women starting chemo today. Hang in there everyone. I'm still in waiting and scheduled to start next Tuesday. Did my blood work this morning.
Unfortunately I have developed a cough with a little phlegm. I am prone to bronchitis so I am praying that it doesnt develop or I will have to put off chemo. This rollercoaster of emotions is just too much.
Ive been doubling up on vitamins and unfortunately took too many this morning so I feel nauseous and sick to my stomach. Didn't have to wait for chemo to feel that way.
Question about neulasta shots. My onc does not do them unless absolutely necessary as according to her chemo nurse (spoke with her yesterday), my insurance does not cover unless my WBC counts are below 1000. I have Blue Cross PPO in CA. Anyone else encounter this with Blue Cross PPO?
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Hello ladies,
I thought of stopping by to give you some courage and virtual hugs. Last year I was exactly where you are now.
Also, I thought of writing an account of the most important things I learned during chemo:
- "Burned mouth" syndrome. Got it at the second treatment. It felt like my whole mouth was burned, the edges of my mouth were red and very sensitive, and I had no sense of taste (for abotu 2 weeks). During this treatment I had only drank ice water. Next treatment I started chewing on ice chips. Still got the burned mouth, but less severe. The last treatment, my boyfriend went to get some lunch, and I said, what the heck, I'm in for another 2 weeks of not tasting anything, bring me some french fries please. He brought them and I started eating them as they were starting the Taxotere - result - no burned mouth.
Anyway, what I did do soothe it. Half and half hydrogene peroxide followed by Biotene mouthwas (the one for dry mouth). Also, the "magic pink" mix - get maalox and liquid benadryl and mix them in equal quantities. You don't have to buy the brand names, store generic is just fine. It helps a lot. Frozen sorbet and frozen fruit lollipops helped a lot too.
Taxotere adverse reaction: I had that in my first two treatments, no matter how much steroid they would push in. It's a very scary reaction, you feel all hot, your chest tightens and hurts, your blood pressure and heart rate rise, your oxygen levels get low. Make sure you notify the nurses rightaway (you should have a little bell of some sorts near your chair). At the third treatment they just started the drip very slowly and pushed it higher from there - no more reactions.
I got frozen peas with me and as they started the Taxotere I got my fingers and toes in them. I didn't lose any.
My hair started falling in the 12th day. I lost all body hair except for my eyebrows (they only got thinner) and the nose-hairs. But it grows nicely afterwards, I took lots of Biotin. Look at my avatar and you can see how my hair is 9 months after the last treatment.
I hope this helps someone on this list.
And again, courage, this too shall pass!
Big hugs for all
Day
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I hope today went better than you originally thought. I feel blessed that I had the extra week to heal. I had my first fill today and im on muscle relaxers today and maybe for a few more days. I hope you feel well enough to fill us all in. IK everyone is worried for you.
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Hang in there for the girls (and boys too) who are starting chemo today. I was just thinking how there may be boys on here who are only looking at the posts, but may not be all the way willing to join us and I just want to say if you are male and have breast cancer, we support you too.
Love to all who are going through chemo today. Once youdo it, you will be in the process to fight againsst breast cancer.
I feel better today with the antibiotics.
Cut my hari down more today.
Hugs and love to everyone.
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Thank you for the welcomes. Just got back from my first chemo and I don't understand why I feel so good! Just waiting for the part where you feel bad. I know it is coming... The experience at the cancer center was great... Compassionate nurses, hubby by my side and fresh baked cookies from the volunteer! Came home to a yard planted with flowers, mulched and mowed by dear friends. We ate some soup then I took my beagle for a long walk. I tried the ice thing on my nails and toenails to see if that will prevent the nail problems. The nurses knew nothing about this so I felt kind of freaky. I'm thinking of taking it easy with a good book and naps today,so as not to overdo it. What books are you all reading?
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I'm reading Handle With Care by Jodi Picout --- spelling may be off.
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Hi everybody - I am here in the Eisenhower infusion room hooked up getting my last bag dripped in. They do lots of premeds to prevent se's beforehand: water for dehydration, some steroids, something for nausea, and benadryl. Had a nice long nap, drank two green smoothies, & will be done in about 16 min. 2+1/2 hrs total.
Chemo #1 is fine so far - no negatives at all.
We will see how it goes day by day. -
Is my avatar sideways? Dang it!!!!!
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Hi all! Mind if I join in? I will begin my chemotherapy this Monday. CTx4. Glad to have others to take the journey with!
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For those of you taking the claritin before the neulasta injection like you are supposed to do (I found out about it too late and took it about 10 mins after I left the onco's) I am anxious to hear if it works. I have had many chemos and have not felt as bad with any of them as I did with the nuelasta I got on Thurs. SE's hit Friday afternoon and I just ached everywhere and felt like I had the flu and just stayed in bed under the covers...was feeling better on Sun, but still not normal, sort of sore and bruised, my knee replacement throbbing and the bottoms of my feet hurt and my shins. Monday about the same, aches here and there and then I started getting some muscle spasms in my back and my neck felt like I had strained it or slept on it wrong. Today I worked, knee is throbbing, feet hurt and I kept getting spasms in my fingers,,,would just sort of cramp and go at ood angles....stomach feels queezy and I just don't really feel normal. Oh and when I walk my legs feel like they weigh about 80lbs each and almost like I am going to topple forward. I honestly felt like I was going to fall asleep today and sort of like I was in a stupor. Now I wonder, is this the chemo finally causing some SEs...have had two treatments and tomorrow will be 2 weeks since start....or is this the neulasta shot? I see the onco tomorrow when I get my Xgeva shot ( replaced zometa) and am going to ask him what is going on. I admit I am spoiled since I was very fortunate with lack of SEs on the last two chemos, but just do not like the way I am feeling at all and am actually starting to think maybe I really will have to stop working. Hair still holding, not even coming out in shower.
Ruthi, Do people ever tell you that you look like Florence Henderson?
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I know. Ruthii is absolutely beautiful !
Marybe- I took Claritin and still had bone ache but I would hate to see what it's like without the Claritin. -
neecee - welcome to the club no one wants to join! We will help you get through this journey!
Hey - I finally got a picture uploaded. I had to use one with my hubby b/c that's all I had on my computer. Plus, he is my rock through all of this so he deserves some credit too
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Thanks MamaV!
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Neecee: I am right behind you literally. My chemo starts next Tuesday.
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Well Deb, let's do this together!
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Ruthii, Hope your first day goes as well as mine! Still feeling good nearly 12 hours later. I admit I am curious why your medical oncologist wants to go with 6 treatments of TC instead of 4.
Debrox, my oncologist will not put me on Neulasta unless I really want her to. She said that the side effects of the Neulasta shots are worse than the chemotherapy with painful bone and joint pain. So if I can naturally keep my WBC counts above 1500 I chose to go without it.
I guess the dexamethasone is responsible for making me so hungry?
Day, thanks for stopping in with the good advice and hope for hair growth when this thing is over!
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