Diseases after radation
I was diagnosed with stage 2 cancer on my right breast 4 months ago. I went under lumpectomy and just finished my radiation 10 days ago. Four days ago I developed rash on my body that turned out to be a very painful case of shingles. What other diseases should I be concerned about now that my immune system is weak and radiation is over. I didn't need chemotherapy but will start hormone therapy soon.
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Beatcancer sorry about the shingles. I'm 1/2 through my 3rd week with this evil shit. I asked the very same question last Tuesday when I went for my Herceptin and the nurse said I shouldn't expect anymore… but I didn't do radiation, just chemo/herceptin/anastrozole and of course surgery.
Feel free to post on the shingles thread I started: Shingles >:-(
I started the thread because no one warned me this could happen now that our immune system had been compromised. I sure hope you didn't get it as bad as I did. Today has been my best day so far. They didn't tell me that when this crap dries up the pain gets worse! -
I looked for side effects of radiation and statistics on long term effects, very little information. If anyone has a good site that can tell me what percentage of radiation patients get other cancers down the road, I am interested.
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Purely anecdotal... but I have read of a higher incidence of thyroid problems after radiation. So that bears watching.
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Thanks for sharing about the shingles. Sorry you got this. I get marked for my rad on 5/13/11 and will have 6 weeks. I did not have to have cemo. I am very nervous about the rad treatments.
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Thanks for the warning, I already have low-thyroid...what kind of thyroid problems did you read about?
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What kind of problem did you have. I just got the singles. I am recovering from it. Get the vacine for it, or if you had chicken pox.
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Rad treament is very easy. I went through 30 sessions. I had not pain. I had it on right breast. I am drak skin, so I did not burn, but my skin got really really dark and i got a lot of spots. Before you start it check with your doctors about singles. I got it a week after my rad ended.
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Please sistas come visit the thread after the Rads. there is lots of info we share.we also have some fun too.If you are doing the rads you cannot get the shingle shot.you have to wait until you are 2 months finished.GET THE SHOT ASAP.As Lago says no one wants that shit.I thought it was over after the rads were finished...SURPRISE.BC IS THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING.IT SURE DOES SUK.huggggggggs K
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New wqrning. I am in my first week of shingles after recently finishing rad. Last night I started getting heaches. Today, I feel low and have a minor amount of chills. Am I coming down with something else, like cold?
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beatacancer some people do get chills and headaches shingles. I didn't. I would check with your doctor and let him/her know. BTW if you don't have narcotics for pain you should ask your doctor about that. When my doctor asked me if I had any (I did) I never thought I would actually take them since I didn't after my BMX or on chemo. There was on day I was in so much pain I did.
It's now 3 weeks for me and I still take ibuprofen for the pain although not quite as bad. The itching is really bad now but I know that's a good sign of things healing.
hang in there. This so far as been the most painful part of my journey… but you will get through it. Just be sure to have the meds you need.
I assume you get antivirals from your doctor.
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Thanks a million. I was thinking that i was getting menegitis. My chills got better. But last night, I could not get rid of the pain, even with Narco ( Codone). My rashs were begining to dry up, but this morning, I started getting blisters again, and I am taking Velterax. I thought I was done with blisters. It almost looks like infection. Could that happen to? What If I accidently roll on my back?
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I was on Valtrex too. My doctor said it was no miricle drug. I was breaking out for a full week. Begining of the second week it started to dry up.
My doctor had me on Valtrex for 2 weeks although that is not the norm to be on it that long. As the blisters dry up the pain does get worse. I did take 1/2 norco twice. It still hurt just hurt less. As it dried up the pain actually got worse.
If it looks like an infection I would call your doctor again. Mine did not look like an infection. Just a cherry red bumpy rash with blisters. The blisters eventually dried up and fell off.
It's been 3 weeks & 3 days and I still have redness, itching and some burning but not as bad and the burning is only in the area where the rash broke out.
Hang in there. This can last 2-6 weeks from what I have read. In some cases the pain can last longer. I thought I would have that issue but now that it's feeling better I know it will go away.
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Thanks for all your support. I just called my doctor to see what he says about possible infection. Most of my effected areas are getting dried up except that portion on my upper back. I am talking the narco. Last night I took Percoset. The Narco was not cutting it anymore. But today, I am trying to hang tough! Keep everyone posted. 2 to 6 weeks is kind of long. Have a great day
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Jo-5 I believe you can't get the shingles vaccine if your immune system is down. Both Chemo and Rads do a job on your immune system. Not sure how long you need to wait after treatment is done. You med/rad onc would know for sure.
beatcancer I'm in my 4th week but the pain isn't so bad. I'm actually wearing jeans again but as I mentioned still doing ibuprofen. For a while there I was wearing soft yoga pants but there were days when I really needed nothing touching me. I did consider vacuuming nake… decided to let the vacuuming go.
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I had the shingles vaccine about 3 months after completing radiation. My RO even said I could have it during Rads. However, I decided to wait until after completing rads. I had the vaccine a few weeks ago and had no problems at all. All my doc's said to get the vaccine.
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Grannydukes is right the after radiation thread is great. I am 3 1/2 months out and had a pretty hard time during radiation. About a month ago I started itching used the hydrocortisone and it helped a little but not much the next week went to my RO for a follow up and told him about the itching and he said just use the hydrocortisone. So the following week I had a dematologist appt and the day before broke out in a rash. He gave me a prescription to keep on hand because he said that once you have radiated skin that it is much more sensitive and will always be that way. He said you can break out in a rash just from a piece of clothing rubbing the wrong way. He stressed this will be with me for life. I used the cream for a week and half and it went away.
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I also developed a rash on the radiated breast 8 months post radio. Onco gave me cortisone cream and it worked, thank God ! I think it was due to an allergic reaction to clothing too, having these night sweats and the Tamox, etc. did not help....
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Oh and I might add the dermatologist told me the over the counter hydro-cortisone cream that the RO's tell us to use are worthless. That is why he gave me a script of something that works. He even said that RO's really need to be more aggressive in skin care during radiation. My RO had me use a really good cream to try to prevent problems but once they started was very hesitant it really giving me something to clear it up. I don't really get it.
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Hi Sherry, you would save me a trip to the dermato if you told me the name of the cream you were prescribed
Did not really like using the cortisone and if this is going to be an ongoing problem....
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Luan he gave me Kenalog .1% it comes in ointment or cream. he said this is a good general one to have on hand for most things. There is a lessor one that is .025%-he said do not waste your money on that one it is not much stronger than over the counter creams.
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What were you told about exposure to the sun after radiation? I finished rads 4 months ago as well. As I was leaving on my last day, the tech told me that the area has "radiation memory" and I should wear something over it, not just use sunscreen. Then she said "I mean forever." Have you also been told never again in your lifetime to expose that area to the sun? Since my bc was quite high on my breast, the rads affected a large portion of my chest skin. No more wearing a bathing suit or scoop neck t-shirt in the sun - ever?
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It is really interesting to hear different problems with the rad area. I have had no rash problem in the rad area. my skin discoloration is healing nicely. I have not been in the sun either. My shingle came out in the other breat. I am in the begining of the second week. The blisters are drying up. I still have a lot of pain.
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Littlemelons my RO told me to use SPF 30 and higher for at least the next 2 years. He said as time goes on it will not be as sensitive to the sun. I am sensitive to the sun anyway and were spf50 for babies
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Sherryc - Thanks very much for the information about sunscreen. The tech was very nice during treatment, but very dramatic when she said no sun "forever". She looked at me like I was being naughty when I said I was going to Orlando shortly after end of rads. I haven't been able to find anything on the web that says no sun exposure ever on the rads area, even with sunscreen. I plan to get some SPF 50. Thanks again.
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I bought a sunscreen with an SPF of 100 at CVS yesterday. I am taking no chances!
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Becky - Wow, I've never heard of SPF 100. Will have to check that out at the store.
JO - What happens when you get some sun on that area? Does it get sore or burn very quickly? The tech didn't say what the consequences would be, but gave me the impression they would be dire. I thought maybe my breast might fall off, lol, which wouldn't be so bad - I'm mad at it!
Have a great holiday on the Outer Banks! Sitting in the shade, reading and sipping tea sounds heavenly!
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Knocking your immune system down can make you more susceptible to lots of things. I had temporary problems with thyroid after treatment, but then rebounded and was taken off meds; however, it's worth noting that over 45 or so, thyroid problems are really common anyway, so it's hard to tease out the threads and know everything that was due to treatment and everything that might have happened anyway. Certainly some things are much more common after treatment.
I had no additional problems after treatment/rads, except getting my taste, strength, and energy back, and watching my blood counts return to normal.
My understanding is that after the first year, sun exposure is OK with a strong sunscreen but I haven't been sunbathing since rads to test that. I'll check with my rad. oncologist next time I see her to make sure I remember correctly.
I've had no other skin sensitivity in that area, but I didn't have a strong skin reaction to rads to begin with, no blistering, etc.Over a year after rads, my rad breast is only one slight shade of beige darker than the other -- not really noticeable. I would guess that after-effects vary from individual to individual, just like effects during rads.
I would happily don long sleeves and a huge floppy hat to sit by the ocean awhile! Enjoy!
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Just posting this a fact which may not have been known about or given to some of you regarding effects of radiation: LATE RADIATION EFFECTS. LATE radiation effects are now receiving more attention because more of us are surviving longer, allowing such effects to surface!
After some benign lumpectomies on my LEFT BREAST, I had another LEFT BREAST lumpectomy - this time diagnosed as cancer. I chose NOT to have any other treatments. The whole time period covered several years.
In 2003, I was again diagnosed with cancer of the LEFT BREAST. Reluctantly I was persuaded to at least have radiation of the LEFT BREAST.
Having a known history of sensitive skin, I feared I would have champion radiation burn effects. I followed the advice of fellow patients and used aloe and did not wear a bras from the very beginning. I still think that had something to do with my experiencing MINIMAL side effects.
Jump to spring of 2009 with no side effects in the interim. One morning, I noticed a pea sized blister on the underside of my LEFT BREAST. Fortunately, just where I could see it. Alarmed, I was able to get an appointment the next day.
Too make a long story short: I ended up with a LEFT BREAST covered with severe blistering and redness. A biopsy proved BENIGN. I was diagnosed with what is called LATE RADIATION EFFECTS which were later complicated by a diagnosis of Bullous Pemphigoid (so far localized). The medical staff were/are challeged as to how to deal with such blistering. So severe was my condition that my HMO authorized Hyperbaric Oxygen Treatment for me. HBO2 Treatment in conjuntion with some pills has made a huge difference.
HBO2 Chamber gets a lot of use for divers, burn victims, diabetic patients having difficulty in surgery healing, and other types of difficult wound healing situations. The supersaturated high pressure environment of pure O2 envigorates cells to do their normal activity in a normal manner - reproduce and do chemical exchanges normally. We were assured that there is plenty of statistical evidence debunking notions of HBO2 treatment envigorating cancerous cells.
Truly, for some fun, go ahead and do a GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH for hyperbaric oxygen OR FOR hyperbaric oxygen chamber.
BTW, I only use Kiss My Face, a castile soap, recommended by my Dermatologist. For laundry, I use Dr. Bronner's liquid castile soap (and even then do a second cycle of just plain water), which I am most easily able to get at Whole Foods. I believe these soaps are also available online.
>>> Just in case it did not register: radiaton 2003 no problems until 2009 when LATE RADIATION EFFECTS appeared. Bear in mind, not everyone will have the kind of effects I experienced or even any late radiation effects.
LOL from one of the "bubble heads" of the multi patient "bubble head ship" in Illinois.
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Trickling thank you for sharing that.
Jo-I noticed while I was in rads and since that when I get hot the radiated area gets red and splotchy looking. It can just be driving in the car with the sun beated down on my left side which is my bad bood side. Nothing exposed and it will turn red and splotchy
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Thank you, this is a very informative thread. Jo and Sherry - After reading your posts, I think I will just cover up for a year and use sunscreen next year. That whole side is blotchy looking and the breast feels sore (I'm 4 months from end of rads). My ribs are also sore now, were yours? Sherry, I thought UV rays couldn't go through glass so I'm wondering if some do get through or if the heat or light is affecting your skin. I had no idea about these long-term effects. They were not explained by anyone in the treatment process.
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