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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    XmasDx - what can be so frustrating is the fact that I can gain 3 lbs overnight - don't know how that works and as much as I pee - don't think it is water weight.  I think stress plays a big role in losing weight and I am stressed to the max right now. 

    I can hardly wait to see my oncologist on Monday and get back on Zoloft.  I had to stop taking it when I went on Tamoxifen but now that I am on Arimidex I can take it again.  Oh and I am definately going to ask for some more lorazepam.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2011

    LADIES - PLEASE PLEASE put the scale away  Weighing yourself daily will drive you crazy. There are MANY factors that affect our weight - it can fluctuate several pounds day to day and within a single day. If your goal is to eat healthy and burn fat, it will not happen from one day to the next, no matter what you eat/don't eat.

    I have been told to skip the scale entirely and gauge progress by how my clothes fit and that has worked very well for me. Others may want to weigh once/month, or AT MOST once/week.

    Otherwise you are going to draw conclusions that are not accurate - i.e. "I ate the brownie and lost weight anyway" or "I didn't eat the brownie and gained weight anyway."  Neither of these are good conclusions and don't help us in our thinking.

    I went to a bridal luncheon with several ladies today. It was a lovely outdoor patio and a lot of fun, just about 7 women there (all mid 50's).  They had several drinks, sandwiches, fries and dessert. I had water, a salad and no dessert. And I didn't feel tempted or deprived AT ALL.  The reason is that I focused on the social element of it (lunch with old friends for a happy occasion) NOT the food. Worked great.  I'm not always perfect at this, but I am getting there..... and the support of all of you on this thread is super helpful.

    Amy

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited May 2011

    I totally agree with not obsessing and weighing yourself every day.  I recommend picking one time a week, and sticking with it.  Otherwise, you'll make yourself crazy over the natural ups and downs of bodily fluids. 

    Michelle

  • elmcity69
    elmcity69 Member Posts: 998
    edited May 2011

    i was awful today. cake and cookies at a Holy Communion party.

    my biggest hurdle is slowing down and thinking, "do i REALLY want this?" sometimes, the answer is still yes, but i'm getting better at discerning. trying to keep extra dark chocolate i nthe house for craving.

    i am getting better at this, but still bumps in the road.

    hubby is making me breakfast tomorrow - i spied lots of fresh fruit in the fridge, and eggs. i'm a lucky gal.

    happy mother's day to all who celebrate it, however you celebrate it...

    xo

    j

    ps: the cocoa banana scones from Pink Kitchen do hit the sugar spot...fabulous. even my kids love them. can't say enough about that cookbook!

  • treesprite
    treesprite Member Posts: 359
    edited May 2011

    My son gave me a bag of Milky Way minis for Mother's Day (along with a beautiful bouquet of tulips).  Heeeeelp!

    elmcity: Slowing down & engaging my brain is the toughest, especially if I'm tired or stressed. 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited May 2011

    My kids know better than to give me anything with sugar because I generally won't eat it.  Just a couple of exceptions...a pecan caramel apple from Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory.  Now that I WILL eat, but I am usually willing to share it.  And really high quality artisinal designer chocolates...like Christopher Elbow or something so expensive that I would only eat one a day and make them last.  If it's not really, really, snobby good, I'm not eating it...LOL. 

    Michelle

  • XmasDx
    XmasDx Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2011

    Amy, you are so right...weighing in every day can definitely be a bad thing... But it is usually a reality check for me.  I'm really laid back about the results though, I know some people fixate on it... I tend to go the other direction and shrug it off.  I'm the Queen of Exceptions.  And today was no exception!  For Mother's Day I had some cake and too much sugar.  But less than I would normally have.  It's hard! 

    Michelle, I need to adopt that attitude toward these parties.  My Mom puts out cakes and bars; some are Excellent.  Some are storebought and mediocre.  If she sees lots if left over after these parties, perhaps she'll start fixing other things... 

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited May 2011

    I think that was an important realization for me a long time ago...if it doesn't taste really, really good, it's not worth eating.  I use that approach for things like bread, potatoes, corn, fruit and anything with sugar.  If it's not "especially good" then I don't need to eat it.  Mediocrity is not worthy!!!

    Michelle

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    I am guilty of weighing myself daily.  I do this because I can gain and lose 3 lbs overnight.  If I were to only weigh myself once a week then if that just happened to be the night I gained 3 lbs, then I would get very discouraged.  Knowing that I fluctuate as much as I do, weighing myself daily is a more positive experience for me.  I can find my new "lows" by doing this.

    I was really good today. I had bought tortellini and alfredo sauce to make for dh and my stepson and I didn't eat any of it.  I also made garlic bread.  Instead I had 5 triscuits and 4 pieces of gruyere cheese and then drank 2 large glasses of  fresh lemonade made with splenda.

    The skirt I wore to church today was hanging at my hips.  I had put my shirt inside of my panty hose since it was one of those slippery type shirts and I couldn't keep it tucked in.  Well the panty hose was showing at the waist so instead I wore the shirt over the skirt.  How my clothes fit gives me the real indication if I am losing weight or not because with all of the exercise I am doing on a regular basis, I don't expect to lose a ton of weight since I am turning fat into muscle right now. 

  • slinky
    slinky Member Posts: 397
    edited May 2011

    I fell off the wagon today and ate until my heart was content.  I cooked Mothers Day dinner and ate more sweets than I normally would.  It was great! Back to my usual eating habits tomorrow.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    I had a Coffee Crisp out of the vending machine to celebrate Mothers Day at work....sigh.

  • x-raygirl
    x-raygirl Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2011

    Yum!  I love Coffee Crisps!  And Milky Ways (Treepsrite).

    Thanks for the tips here.  I am visiting my dad in Toronto this weekend and drinking red wine and popping into bakeries, eating date squares, etc.  This must stop.  SO often I think to myself that it wasn't worth it and I have a mentality of "I'm on vacation".  Michelle, in the past I've done what you said about only eating things if they are fabulous, otherwise, not worth it.  It helped me  and will have to start doing that again.  I felt better and also was more in control and conscious.  I've never "counted" carbs - thanks for the info ladies.

    I really want to lose 10-15 lbs.  This last year was not kind to my body! 

    My affirmation last week and this:  I am vibrantly alive and healthy!  (sugar doesn't get me there)!  Have a great week, ladies ~ Daiva

  • Annabella58
    Annabella58 Member Posts: 2,466
    edited May 2011

    I don' tknow about everyone else, but I subscribe to the "all things in moderation" ethic.  I eat sugar, just not that much of it.  I try (try, haha) to stay away from fake sugar in any form, I was told that stuff is the worst thing we can eat.

    I drink occasionally, (2 drinks weekly is perfectly fine for us, unless going thru chemo per all drs.), eat a cookie if I'm yearning for one, and sure, I have dessert now and then.

    ...all things in moderation. :).

  • shannonW
    shannonW Member Posts: 186
    edited May 2011

    I agree with the above. I've made changes such as trying to incoporate agave nectar, increased my vitamin intake and I've ALWAYS stayed away from fake sugars. I've made an effort to decrease my sugar intake(gave up my one Sprite per day as soon as I was diagnosed in Feb. and don't miss it!) But I eat a sweet treat if I want one. All things in moderation b/c I still want to enjoy life.

  • AmyIsStrong
    AmyIsStrong Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2011

    I think that for many of the women on this thread, the addictive nature of refined sugar makes the 'all things in moderation' theory not workable in reality. I know that one small brownie or slice of pie or whatever would be fine. The problem is - I can't stop there! So it's easier to skip altogether.

    Sometimes I will order a dessert (usually for DH and me to share) when we are out (very rarely) because at least then, when it's gone, it's gone and there is no more.  And then if there IS a sugar craving stimulated by that dessert, it usually passes when we are in the car driving home.

  • LadyinBama
    LadyinBama Member Posts: 1,132
    edited May 2011

    Yes, it does kick off a craving if you eat sugar, just like with cigarettes if you are trying to quit smoking or alcohol for the alcoholic. There are substances in the brain that respond to the "sugar high" so be careful. Some of us are more sensitive to this than others, again just like with nicotine and alcohol. Probably some people can do moderation and some can't.  If you eat sugar be aware that for a day or two you  might crave it more so you can be on guard. The cravings subside totally by day 3 (for me, anyway).

  • mumito
    mumito Member Posts: 4,562
    edited May 2011
    Went to my daughters bridal shower yesterday.Totaly avoided the cupcakes and Icecream cake. But I did eat alot of cheese so so much for the diet.Tongue out
  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    I remember being on Herbal Magic and getting in trouble for eating cheese! I was stunned! I avoided all the goodies at a gathering and ate cheese and crackers and I got shit. I should have chowed down on all the goodies instead if I was going to get hell anyway....sigh.

    Mum you done good!

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    I am eating cheese and crackers at least once a day.  However I mainly eat the "laughing cow" or whatever that brand is - low fat creamy swiss cheese which is 35 calories per triangle.  I will also eat about 4 thin slices of gruyere cheese and I have no idea how many fat calories are in that.  So what ya'll are saying is that cheese is bad if it isn't low fat?   I am still trying to learn the ins and outs of dieting, nutrition, etc. 

    It was nice to go see my oncologist and report a weight loss for the first time in 2 years!

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited May 2011

    Jancie -- Cheese is just best in small amounts -- and hard cheese tends to be the best choice as cheeses go.  But really if you are losing weight that is a good thing and you can worry about adjusting some of your choices later once you've lost the weight! 

  • LtotheK
    LtotheK Member Posts: 2,095
    edited May 2011

    There are different ways of keeping on top of weight, and actually, weighing a few times a week works very effectively for me.  Some studies have shown that it helps with keeping weight down--it's a lot easier to scale back and lose a few pounds than ten if the weight piles on over time.

    That said, you can't gain three pounds overnight, that is all fluid retention, constipation, and actual food.  I noticed sushi really packs it on--I think it's the soy sauce--very high salt.  And here in the Midwest, it's salt city.  I hardly ever eat out, because I'm not just worried about the excess water weight.  To me, that is simply an indication that what I'm eating isn't healthy.  Pure, good food doesn't make you retain water like that.

    I'm with AmyIsStrong.  It's all or nothing for me.  I can't eat just a little bit of sweets.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited May 2011

    The only "low fat" product in my house is Hellman's Lite Mayo.  Otherwise, I eat the full fat version of anything and just eat less of it.  Low fat or light salad dressings are full of hidden sugars, and light versions of cheese generally just don't taste that great.  It's easier for me to just eat a little less of the full fat version.  Sharp-flavored cheeses are good because a little goes a long way. 

    I can really limit my sweets, but don't put a big bowl of popcorn in front of me.  And not microwaved or from a bag, I want the real deal, cooked in a pot, salted and buttered!  I usually just make it my meal replacement when I need copious amounts!

    Michelle

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    I went to breast cancer support group and typically the moderator will bring in fruit except she lost her card to that discount food store - chemo brain and can't remember the name of it - in any case she brought in donuts and I had two of them because I hadn't eaten dinner yet.  I was so planning on enjoying some fresh fruit which I know is high in natural sugar but hey.....it would have been better than having those two donuts.

    And yet before group started I was so proud of myself because I forgot to bring a coke zero with me and instead of buying regular coke out of the vending machine I bought Diet Coke which didn't taste as bad as it used to before I quit consuming so much sugar.

    So alas.....I messed up tonight but tomorrow is a better day. 

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited May 2011

    Jancie -- it's all good.  I think you have to just resolve to get back on the horse (ha -- you know that one!) when you fall off now and then.  Oh and BTW I like that light Laughing Cow cheese too -- I don't know, though, is it really cheese?  LOL  Or just something that tastes like it?

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    Lilah - don't know if it is real cheese or not - have to read the labels but I do like it and I am a cheese guru - I spent years in Switzerland which is probably why I keep buying Gruyere cheese at $15 per lb.  I would have never bought that cheese if I hadn't had a sample of it when I was in Dallas visiting a friend - oh and never would I have ever thought of buying low fat cheese or anything else low fat.

    BTW - I am getting back on that damm horse tomorrow!  She about tossed my trainer again on Saturday.

  • gutsy
    gutsy Member Posts: 391
    edited May 2011

    We have half a cake in the fridge from Mother's day. I mean the cake of all cakes, and than this apple pie from costco the size of an extra large pizza. I feel like an indoor cat watching from the window a bird outside.  I am encouraging my kids to eat the dam pies, just so I don't have to stare at them when I get my organic carrots out of the fridge for my snack. I love my sweets, but since my diagnosis I have been trying to be sugar free.

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 2,631
    edited May 2011

    Gutsy - I am finding that if I eat a yogurt or make fresh lemonade with splenda - it seems to help with the cravings when I watch other people eat sweet stuff in front of me.  Someone from my BC support group mentioned that carrots have alot of natural sugar in them - haven't done the research myself but I thought about this when I saw your post.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited May 2011

    I find a half an apple or 3 oz of carrots (they sell baby carrots in little 3 oz bags) helps with sweet cravings.  Both are relatively low carb but naturally sweet.

    And Jancie I was kidding about Laughing Cow not being cheese :) 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    If they make something "lite" they tend to make another part unhealthy. They'll load it with salt or sugar for taste. Don't they realize we don't NEED that sugar taste to like something?? I love Balkan yoghurt without any additives. I  use unsalted butter even. I can always tell in a restaurant if a chef likes salt or not....I hate that they take that option away from us! Too salty soup or something.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2012

    One of the most informative books I've read, and the most helpful in showing WHY I have those cravings, is The End of Over Eating - by Dr. David Kessler.  Kessler is in the process of doing to the "food industry" what he did to cigarettes!  Really, once you read this book, you won't look at "food" the same again -expecially if you often eat in "chain restaurants" - or buy a lot of processed food.

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