Vitamin D deficiency?

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ByFaith
ByFaith Member Posts: 270
edited June 2014 in Stage I Breast Cancer

I was quite surprised when I was dx'd with BC May 2010 that I was vitamin D deficient.  It was then I learned it's very common among BC patients to be deficient in vitamin D. I'm been on supplement since then and my values are rising.

I find myself wanting to tell everyone (male and female alike) to get their vitamin D level checked. The friends and family I do tell don't seem to realize the importance of having vitamin D in the normal range. The deficiency came as a surprise to me.  I get annual physicals with complete blood work and it wasn't routinely checked until my BC diagnosis.  

How many of you were or are vitamin D deficient or do you know?

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  • kcshreve
    kcshreve Member Posts: 1,148
    edited January 2011

    There is quite a long thread related to this over on the Alt/Comp line.  Most of us with BC have had a low Vit D lab result, although many did not have it done until recently.  Many doctors still do not test for this.  You'll find the Vit D thread interesting.  

  • carcharm
    carcharm Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2011

    I had the same mindset however now there are studies showing there is no link. It's hard to know what is correct and what isn't. I think it is too coincindental that alot of women here have low Vit. D levels and BC. Mine was 18! In the toilet. I take 10K IU's/ day to try to recoup. They want my levels over 60. I think it should be part of a routine physical exam to check vit d levels but it is kind of a newer link/finding and there is info to disprove the connection.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    I had my checked 9 months before my cancer diagnosis and it was very low. Now I'm just above high normal. I also found out I'm osteopenic so calcium was added too.

  • carcharm
    carcharm Member Posts: 486
    edited January 2011
  • slg2130
    slg2130 Member Posts: 140
    edited January 2011
    My oncologist tested my D level, and I was at 12 - talk about in the toilet!  The nurse told me that something like 70% of the breast cancer patients they see have a low Vit-D level.  I'm with you - annual physicals with blood tests didn't cover it, and there's too much "coincidence" to not have some kind of link!
  • Parentof1
    Parentof1 Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2011

       Good morning all:)  It amazes me how many family doctors/practitioners do not check Vitamin D levels as part of a annual physical.

       I found the same thing with DEXA or bone density scans.  I had my first Bone Density scan  done about 3 year's before being diagnosed with BC.  I was then a stage 3 for Osteoporosis, and was put on Boniva, and 600 MG Calcium daily.  One year later, I had to go in and request this be done...and bone density T scores had gotten worse. 

       In July 2009 I was diagnosed with BC.  After speaking to Oncologost, I went to family doctor and asked for a Vitamin D level check-this came back as an 8!  

       My Oncologist shared with me that:  Even though I was taking Boniva and Calcium, due to my really low Vitamin D level, the Calcium did not bond to my bones.  She said having adequate Vitamin D levels, were and are important in order for Calcium to bond to our bones/be absorbed as it should be.

       I started out taking perscription strength 25,000 IU Vitamin D, and am now taking 5,000 IU daily-over the counter.

       I also do a infusion 1 x a year, at Oncologist office to strengthen bones, as a SE of the Femara I am on can be bone weakening.

       I also found that family doctors believe a Vitamin D level of 20 is sufficient...and Oncologists like to see this at 40-60, at least.  So we have to sometimes be our own advocates when it comes to what family doctors say in regards to Vitamin D levels and, what Oncologists say as far, as what are sufficient Vitamin D levels.

       I also have a 20 year old daughter, who I have taking 2000 IU Vitamin D daily, since finding out how important Vitamin D is.  Not just important to bones, but heart and many other areas of our bodies.

       We must educate our families, friends, ect on this.  At least try to!  Have a great day all! 

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited January 2011

    I heard something interesting on XM "Doctor Radio" yesterday, that I thought might be worth passing along.  They were saying that our bodies cannot absorb more than 2,000 IU's at a time, and that if you take more than that, you need to break it into 2,000 IU doses.  I know I've seen comments here on BCO from women taking extremely high doses (as high as 50,000/day), and still not being able to get their levels into the desireable range, so I thought I'd just pass this along.  They were also saying that sunscreens are a major culprit because even in sunny CA & FL it's possible to be deficient in D.    Deanna

  • Parentof1
    Parentof1 Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2011

      Wow I didn't know this dlb...thank you for this info:))

  • ByFaith
    ByFaith Member Posts: 270
    edited January 2011

    Since vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin, I know there can be health issues if one takes too much of it.  Obviously, many of us posting here are deficient in vitamin D.  Some of the doses seem really high, and I wonder how patients are monitoring between blood work to see they're not getting too much?

  • kittycat
    kittycat Member Posts: 2,144
    edited January 2011

    I'm taking 4000 IUI's of vitamin D, as I am also deficient.  I was on 2000, but it wasn't enough.  My levels are more normal now. 

    Deanna, thank you for posting that info on the proper dosage.  I was taking my 2 pills at the same time, but started splitting it up into 2 doses today.  I just thought it might be better and am glad to read this post. 

  • Sherbear
    Sherbear Member Posts: 215
    edited January 2011

    Does anyone take Vit D drops?  I've been using this kind (professional brand Cyto-Matrix) from my ND instead of pills as she says that they're better absorbed.  They contain Vit D-3 500 IU per drop and contain an Medium Chain Triglyceride (to aid absorption).  

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 834
    edited January 2011

    Yes a Vit-D taker over here. I was in the high 20s when first dx, now I am in the 40's range.

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited January 2011

    I was tested and came in at 24. My onc told me to take 1000K a day,but I take 2000K a day - to try to get me up over 40.  Once my level goes up, I will drop the intake to 500 a day.

  • NormaJean65
    NormaJean65 Member Posts: 234
    edited April 2011

    I also experienced Vitamin D deficiency.  Found it about 18mons. or 2 yrs. before being dx w/ bc.  I still take the vit. D (prescription) of 50,000 IU once weekly.  Approved and ordered by both my PCP and my Onco.  It's time for another check on my levels. If it isn't one thing to check on, it's another :-)

  • jadeblue
    jadeblue Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2011

    I hear you! I too was ignorant of the importance of Vitamin D and wish that health care providers had educated me about how crucial it is. I've never had my levels checked, but assumed I was extremely deficient as a fair-skinned woman who works full-time indoors and hadn't set foot outdoors in years without every inch of skin covered in clothing and/or sunscreen. We've been given a lot of misinformation about the "dangers" of light to moderate sun exposure and many of us who thought we were doing the right thing by avoiding the sun are paying the price for it now. I don't think it's 100% of the reason why I got breast cancer at 44, but I think it's got more than a little to do with it. I'm becoming a little bit evangelical with friends: get mammograms! take high-quality D supplements! go out in the sun without sunscreen sometimes!

  • pil
    pil Member Posts: 315
    edited May 2011

    Vitamin D has really not been determined the over dose from what I read.  I do take more than the average because I was diagnosed with osterporsis in 2001.  Since I have been taking vit D the last 2 years, my bones have become more dense and I feel much more healthier in them.  I dont fracture or hurt as easyly either.     I physically am more stronger now as well.  Yes, I can tell when my bones are lacking. I am very sensitive.  Just my opininon on the vit d.   Please let me know what exactly you know in that regards. 

  • cbharvest
    cbharvest Member Posts: 11
    edited July 2011

    Wow! Thank you for starting this thread. I changed doctors two years ago and she tested my vitamin D level for the first time in my life (at 55). It was 7. I didn't even know what that meant, except that the report indicated a range of 40-60 as normal. I was probably deficient for years, but didn't know it.

    Not fully understanding the impact the deficiency might have, I half heartedly took the vitamin D she prescribed, and got my level up to 27. Two months later, I was diagnosed with DCIS. The first thing my surgeon said was that she wanted me tested, and I was able to tell her that my level was 27 two months prior. She flipped and said I should be over 60, and put me on a 50,000 IU monthly and has me taking the 2,000 IU daily that the GP had prescribed. I get tested again in August.

    Now, I also have become evangelical about D. I think that contributed to my Cancer.  I will tell anyone who will listen to have their's checked and to keep it up there. BTW:  I feel ten years younger! Laughing All the aches and pains I blamed on our matress were in my body to begin with.

    Power on, ladies!

  • firebird
    firebird Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2011

    While I was on chemo my oncologist checked my Vit D levels and it was low (below 20). However because I have a history of kidney stones (which vitamin D and/or calcium supplements can contribute to) I would not agree to take more than 400 units a day and to be honest I "accidentally" skipped it more days than I took it. Anyone who has had kidney stones will relate to the desire to avoid ANYTHING that might cause that kind of agony again!!



    Anyway, a few months ago my oncologist told me the same thing that carcharm said: There are now new studies that call the previous ones (that showed a link) into serious question. Therefore (this is a quote) "Many oncologists are now backing away from the connection."



    I do wonder if the presence of BC cells themselves have an effect on the body's level of Vitamin D. IMHO it is quite possible, since most women are never tested for D until after they have had a BC diagnosis. Is it possible that part of the body's response to the presence of the cancer cells in the bloodstream (even before there is a detectable tumor) is to depress Vit D levels? In other words the cancer cells might cause the low level of D, not the other way around.



    By the way, just for my own curiosity I had my Vit D tested 5 months after I finished my year of TH; it was up to 50 and that's with taking 400 units only 4 or 5 days a week (if that). I wasn't very conscientious about it to say the least. So I even wonder if certain chemos can also depress the blood levels of Vitamin D.

  • zanoza
    zanoza Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2011

    Hi girls,

    Just spoke with a cousin who is oncologist in Germany. She said that they tell their patients to avoid vit.D since it feeds cancer!!!  Looks like nobody really knows anything about cancer yetUndecided Just thought that you might want to know more opinions...

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