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everyminute
everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
edited June 2014 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Once in a while I come here with some sort of mini drama and you all shore me back up and give me strength - so here I am again...

Coming up on 3 years from surgery - June 5th.  Feel great, running, living, writing a blog for Albany newspaper (blog bio here) that is actually getting me some notarity (no money -lol), running three survivor exercise programs (2 paid), work is going well (been there 13 years), kids are happy and doing well, my husband is my best friend, pug is annoying.

Couple of niggling issues though -

- I wanted a little reassurance at my doc appt that 3 years is a good landmark.  Didnt get that and when I said it's been 3 years she just nodded (what does that mean??? lol).  She did mention with my "history" being on an AI/Tam for 10 years total.  Ok - I knew that.  Otherwise blood work was great, got my zometa (for osteopenia - but maybe it will do something more ???) I dont do tumor markers anymore (too much stress) so over all appt was good.

- I am running in a marathon in october (didnt get into nyc :-() locally and joe and I are going to renew our vows at the finish line.  since I write the runners blog locally - it will be a big deal.  I have just written an announcement but am afraid to post it (what if something happens?)  I always worry when planning vacations and marathons but tell myself I can always back out - this will be public, I can't back out without eveyrone knowing.  So not only do I have to worry about training and regular running injuries, I have to worry about all this drama.

So I guess my problem -in a nutshell - is life is so damn good and I am scared.

Here is the announcement, by the way (that I am not sure when I will post):

The Runners Blog

The Runners Blog

Written for runners of all strides About First Last
 

My running buddy and I

April 30, 2011 at 9:20 am by Mary Katherine Ibbetson

Once upon a time in a far away land (OK... Schenectady) a boy and a girl fell in love,

They married, had children, built a life,

They had more good times than bad,

They coached soccer and ran PTAs,

They did the best they could and it was good.

Everyday they told each other "I love you"

Ten years went by and they again said to God and to each other "You will always be mine"

They cared for their kids, they cared for their parents, in sickness and in health.

And one day they went for a run,

They ran and they ran, from fear, towards strength.

Twenty years went by and they looked as young as ever (Yeah...right!)

and again they will say to God and to each other "You will always be mine"

From Schenectady to Albany, just a run along the river,

A wedding at a marathon - a twenty year celebration!

We will renew our vows at the finish line of the Mohawk Hudson Marathon and begin our third decade together,

My running buddy and I.

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  • Bugs
    Bugs Member Posts: 1,719
    edited April 2011

    Mary, 3 years is a huge milestone.  HUGE!  Don't let your dr's noncomittal response get you down.

    Regarding the worry.  Sigh.  I know..and yes, I also have moments of doubt and worry when making long term plans.  I was just filling out all my benefit information and choosing my 401K stuff.  I thought...hmm, wonder if I'll ever see this money.  BUT, you can't let those stray thoughts keep you from making the long term plans.  That's giving up!

    Our wonderful Karilynn (not sure if you remember her) who was stage 4 said something that I try to keep in my head at all times.  If you progress to stage 4, are you going to look back and think of all that worry that you did as living your life to the fullest?  

    None of us know if we will progress or not.  Try not to let that rule your decision making.

    Hugs! 

  • cd1234
    cd1234 Member Posts: 169
    edited April 2011

    I love this. It brought tears to my eyes. Keep running and loving life!

  • diana50
    diana50 Member Posts: 2,134
    edited April 2011

    mary

    love...love...your pictures, poem and post.

    my onc never reassures me; they don't want to say 'you will be fine" because they don't know for sure.  that is what this is all about; we want definate answers and there just aren't any. youwill get better and better at not worrying about months or years down the road.  it takes practice...i used to be afraid to schedule a vacation until AFTER i had my check up.  now, i just do whatever i feel like doing and figure it will all work out.  the trauma that keeps coming up for each of us is the shock....life changing event when were were diagnosed.  we don't forget that experience and at times we are feeling that and remembering it.  when we were initially diagnosed it totally changed so much we were familier with; our safety, our time...our perception of safety.

    keep on...keep moving forward into life; you are awesome and doing great. be in the moment and the moments will turn into months and years. know that whatever comes your way; you will and can handle it.

    hugs

  • SpunkyGirl
    SpunkyGirl Member Posts: 1,568
    edited April 2011

    Mary,

    Wow, your post and your poem just bring tears to my eyes.  You and Joe are just an amazing couple, and you truly have all your priorities in the right place.  There are too many people out there who squander their opportunities for happiness.  Yes, we'll never get a good reassurance from our Oncologists, though I have to admit that mine is more optimistic than I would be about me (smile).  I'm seeing him on Monday, and the last time we sat down he mentioned that I would be on Tamoxifen and then the AIs for a long time.  I just see that as a good problem to have. 

    Life is short, and too many people never figure that out.  But you know it.  Keep running, my friend, and keep changing all those lives you are changing for the better....

    Love

    Bobbie

  • KerryMac
    KerryMac Member Posts: 3,529
    edited April 2011

    Mary, you just went and made me cry.

    I love the blog announcement, and aren't you the one (yes, I think so!) who told me to go ahead and make plans, how you can't live in fear. I think it is a great idea, and I think it will be a beautiful (albeit sweaty!) occasion.

    As for being three years out, it is an amazing benchmark. My BS (although not my onc!) was quite happy once I made it to 2. But, as Diana says, they don't go around saying "you will be fine" because, well, they really don't know. I think we all wish they would say to us "well if it hasn't come back now it isn't going to", imagine having that weight lifted.

    There was a new study published last week on Canadian cancer stats, it was the first study to look at survival stats at each year from Dx. What they found was for most types of cancer (including Breast), every year you you were still alive after Dx, your risk of death lowered. It never goes down to 0, but your odds improve every day.

    I would also take encouragement that she said you would be on AI's for 10 years - she expects you to still be around to be taking them!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited May 2011

    Mary....Absolutely beautiful!!!! 

    I don't plan in my head like I used to....because of the saying be careful of what you wish for.....BUT you do need to plan some events in life....a marathon is just one of those.....and so is a wedding or renewing vows....so I say go for it ....planning in your head is different than planning an actual event.....Will look forward to hearing all about it....

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited May 2011

    Mary...just DO IT!

    On with our lives!

  • Rachel1
    Rachel1 Member Posts: 363
    edited May 2011

    Mary,

    You brought tears to my eyes. I think it's so romantic.  Oncs-- bah, humbug.  Three yrs. is huge. You are an inspiration to me. I've started training for a half marathon (fast walking). I did 8 miles yesterday and feel horrible today!!!! Maybe I'll do a 5K.

    Hugs,

    Rachel 

  • faithfulheart
    faithfulheart Member Posts: 544
    edited May 2011

    Mary, you plan thoughs VOW'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  3 years is huge!

     I don't care if had only been 3 months, you love this dear man, soul mate of yours.

    No matter what life holds, and only God knows that we keep living one day at a time.

    Your Invites are beautiful.  I'm going to renew my vows in oct, it will be 2 years for me, one year shy from you. My feeling is I want to renew my life after 22 years of being married,  because I love him so much, it's as simple as that. My 10 yr old will be my maid of honor and my 6 yr old the best man!  Your livin your life mary, one marrothon at a time! Your Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!

    God Bless you on your special day.

    stephanie

  • 116
    116 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2012

    I just saw my oncolgist for a check up and he said, "Well you have passed the 3 year mark, that "is" a big deal" .....So congratulations from my doctor to you!

  • everyminute
    everyminute Member Posts: 1,805
    edited May 2011

    Giddyup - You are almost a full year past me - coming up on 4 years so he/she must have meant 3 years past treatment?  Either way, I will take it! thanks

  • Pure
    Pure Member Posts: 1,796
    edited May 2011

    I haven't hit 3 years but my doc told me that 70% of reoccurences happen in the first 2 years so I would say that 3 years is huge!!! Congrats!!

  • pupfoster1
    pupfoster1 Member Posts: 1,484
    edited May 2011

    AWESOME post Mary!  CONGRATS on 20 years.  He's a lucky guy!

    Sharon

  • ktn
    ktn Member Posts: 181
    edited May 2011

    Mary~ I am just a few weeks behind you and look forward to 3 years. I have a wonderful Onc but she isn't one to cheer about things too much. She has handled mostly BC patients for 20+ years so she has seen alot. The appt after I finished all my treatments and was so excited she said "well the 1st 2-3 years are the high risk time." That burst my bubble! But at 2 years she said it was wonderful and I'm doing great! We'll see how 3 years goes!

    My dream was to go to Italy. We booked with friends last June for a Sept trip. I debated about the extra insurance in case I couldn't go. I was always having some ache so always expected to have to be checked but was going by the 2 week rule and nothing lasted that long. Anyway, planning the trip, shopping for it, and going on it was the best ever!!! I believe we have to keep planning ahead and live our lives. We can't ever be sure......I have relatives in Alabama near the tornadoes and thankfully all our well but so many were lost in minutes. Post your blog, have your vows renewed and keep looking ahead to many more wonderful years!!! Kathy

  • JacquelineG
    JacquelineG Member Posts: 282
    edited May 2011

    Hi Mary,

    I am feeling just like you, as my 3 year anniversary of diagnosis is June 2nd. I love my onc and keep wanting her to say that I will be just fine but she won't.... In fact I said to her once, "I just don't want it (cancer) to come back"... and she paused for a moment, then said, "nobody wants it to come back." I know what she really wants to say is, 'chances are, you'll be fine' but she can't!

    So we need to come to these boards and get reassurance from our other fellow Stage 3ers who are 3, 4, 5, 6 and 10 years out :-) and are so gracious to come back here and reassure us!

     sending you hugs,

    Jackie

  • lkc
    lkc Member Posts: 1,203
    edited May 2011

    Hi Mary,

    Just reading this and want you to know . that you shouldn't read anything into your docs indifference. I still get it from my surgeon and I am 6 yrs out.

    Life  Large, Run, Love fearlessly .You've hit a BIG milestone.You will be logging many, many many running miles!!!

  • 116
    116 Member Posts: 108
    edited December 2012

    Wow! Has it been 4 years already!!! Thank you for pointing that out to me! I cannot believe that I did not even stop to calculate how long it has been. I guess that just shows that I am moving on. Yeah! My oncologist did mean 3 years past diagnosis, The truth is that I skipped my previous 6 month check up and so it was the first time he saw me since my 3 year mark. I skipped the appointment because my oncologist does not do any testing at all, none. He only does a breast exam. Last time I was there I asked him why it was necessary for me to come since it costs me $30.00 for him to just do a breast exam, that I can do myself for a lot cheaper. I even confessed to him that sometimes I do them for free :) He had a good laugh and then encouraged me to keep coming, it was important he said. I did agree that it is important and feel blessed to have access to excellent medical care, but to tell you the truth my appointments seem like such a false sense of security and I always leave feeling a little cheated just because I know that. I do bring up concerns (that I store up for months in my worry wart), but the response is always that until there is a major pain or bump that they will do nothing. So I always left saying to myself, "That is the last time I will bother to go, it is just dredging up old stuff, wasting money I could give to my starving student daughters, and I do not leave feeling any better or any more secure". I also skipped the appointment because although I just barreled through treatment, alone, daughters away at school and did not want them to worry, kept working, and just did not think about it beyond getting through the next day, I did not emotionally deal with anything at all. Almost right after I finished treatment I went back to school full time on top of work so I was still too busy, or honestly...running from it, to deal with it. Then right when I hit the three year mark a young girl my daughters age who is in my core group at the college (everyone in your core becomes your very close family) found out that her Mom's sinus infection was really BC that had already gone into her spine and brain, and I ended up having a really hard time keeping it together when I was in class with her and I started to melt down. I had never told anyone in my program that I had been through BC stuff. As her Mother progressed my ability to keep my emotions in check was getting more and more difficult until one day I just broke down sobbing in front of my professor after class about what this young girl was going through, and how hard it was for me to watch knowing what she is facing (I work in long-term home care). I just kept repeating over and over, "She's my daughters' age, She's is my daughters' age.....and I could barely talk or breathe. Although I still had not disclosed my experience to her or anyone, my professor (who also has a counseling background), immediately said, (After she got me breathing again) "I think that this is really about your fear of your daughters losing you.....?". It was at that point that I realized that although my grief for this young girl was truly genuine, I never took the time to deal with anything of my own really. I then took some time to research and found that it is very common to have a melt down at the 3 year mark too. So the pain I felt for her combined with all my stuffed emotions was just too much and came exploding out. Anyway long story short, that is why I did not go to my three year appointment. I had enough of cancer (Another coremate, my age, was diagnosed at this same time with ovarian cancer, and I watched her go through chemo.) I only ended up going this last time because my oncologists office starter harassing me :) they called, sent letters, kept calling when I put them off, and told me they would not take no for an answer. I wonder if this is also a typical three year response, not wanting to go to the doctors anymore, or having unmet emotions or expectations when you do go to appointments?  Humm.....

  • gutsy
    gutsy Member Posts: 391
    edited May 2011

    We all deal with it differently, but I do think it is important to deal with your emotions. There are no medals for being superwoman and pretend it was no big deal and you are back to doing everything and more. I took little time off when going through treatment, barreled through it all. I don't think it was such a smart idea. Yep, not much happens in the oncologists office, but I am glad someone is keeping an eye on me. I tried to do everything on my part that gives me a sense of some control. I may be fooling myself, but healthy eating, exercise, starting yoga hopefully will help prevent recurrence.

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