anyone out there with auto-immune/chronic pain issues before dx?

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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011
    I'm sitting here smiling sadly....I used to take one Oxycodone in the morning so that I could get in the shower. Then we had to make it an "IR - instant release" version so it would work quicker. Now I have to take TWO !!!!  So sad how we adjust and adapt!! I don't shower every day, why would I need to? But I do a couple of times a week. It is a real production, but I have hand grips in my tub area. I can't imagine lying DOWN in the tub!! How do y'all get back up???? Tongue out
  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    So where is everyone??? My pelvic pain is getting worse at night. I think when I lie flat, the urine goes into areas of my bladder that it can't get to when I'm sitting up. More and more pain meds....sigh. Today I googled my type of breast cancer, Papillary and bladder and it's the #1 type of cancer for the bladder! Now I'm kinda freaking out here....could use a prayer and a couple of hugs. I hope he's scanning the bladder on the 27th when he's going in for that other testing!

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited April 2011

    I haven't been here in a while, I forgot to add it to my favorites.

    I may be too late, but wanted to add that when you go for long periods of time without a good nights sleep (REM cycle) you adjust.  However, when you do finally go into a deep sleep/REM cycle you will have terrible, vivid dreams, but they will subside.  Keep trying the Melatonin.  I was given the sleep information when I had trouble years ago, then again when my daughter struggled with her neuro disease. 

    Barb - I am so sorry for all that you're going through. I love your sense of humor and insight on various subjects - I can't believe you aren't surrounded by friends.  

    There was a question asked about auto-immune, are we angry that it has taken so much.  I am not angry with it.  I feel that it is what it is and learned to live with limits.  However, I do find when my pain gets out of control I don't think clearly and I get very frustrated with my situation.

    Hope everyone is having a good day - I'm adding this to my favorites so it doesn't get lost on me..... 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Jenn, I don't have close friends because I have nothing left at the end of the day to give them. Friendship is a give and take and I don't want to be just a taker. My DH gets that little, itty, bitty bit of me that is left.

    Yes, I do get angry at my limitations. I am angry at my body for letting me down. I am angry that it is getting worse and not better even though I have accomodated the FM in every way I can. I allow myself  9-14 hours sleep a night if it needs it. I don't go into high sensory places like carnivals, or Disney (my worst nightware thought!) I eat healthy and stay hydrated, etc, etc. And yet, my body keeps failing me. Maybe it's getting ready to get rid of me! Who knows this time?

    I truly don't believe I can take much more.

  • Welga
    Welga Member Posts: 308
    edited April 2011

    Gee Barb your life sounds so much like mine, painwise and also your thinking on freindship, the kind of upbringing you had is similar to mine,  I soo understand you ( I read a lot of your posts,  because I like your personnality, smart girl)

    It's very hard not to think the worst when we are hurting (bladder), so I hope you get an answer soon, altough like we know in our Canadian system it can be long............ so hughs and good luck with your upcoming test

    Welga

  • Stanzie
    Stanzie Member Posts: 1,971
    edited April 2011

    Oh Barb - Sending you lots and lots of gentle (((Hugs))) and prayers!!!! How soon can you get tested.? I know you must be terrified but as all our minds immediately go to cancer, but it can be so many other things and with all you have going on.... Well, try to think positively - I'm am for you if you can't! You will be OK and everything will be fine. I'm so sorry you have More pain to deal with!!! Please let us know as you find out more! Thinking of you and lots of prayers!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    barbe- After just going through a scare myself I can completely empathize with what you're going through.  You've already had to endure so much, more than any person I know, and now this!  It is so unfair.  I know it probably feels like you're alone but you're not.  We are all here for you.  I can understand the friends thing, too.  My circle has definitely dwindled since I always feel I can't make plans or commit to anything because I don't know how I'll be feeling.  I had to cancel so many times that now I just don't make too many plans.  

    jenn- Welcome back!  That is so interesting about the vivid dreams but it makes sense.  I used to have the wildest craziest dreams almost every night but haven't in years.  I never related it to the lack of REM sleep, though, but it makes sense.  I will give the Melatonin another try and see what happens.   

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Thanks guys, you always make me feel better...almost....but not all the way better, if you know what I mean.

  • CrazyKitties
    CrazyKitties Member Posts: 180
    edited April 2011

    Getting throbbing pains in arms, left hip is killing me, pins and needles in muscles, head is tight, yes the fibro is back, and at least we have each other right?

    love to you all!!!!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Crazy, I HATE when I can feel a flare coming on!! I want to just run (but can't!) and hide....but as "they" say, you can run, but you can't hide!!! Often I will get a cold sore. Used to think that was weird until I linked the immune thing together. So sometimes I can feel a cold sore coming and know I'm about to flare. Weird, eh?

  • sunangel27
    sunangel27 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2011

    Crazy....and Barbe.......I'm right there with you......... :(          I HATE FIBRO and really really wish I could run and hide from it.......but we can't.... :(

    My primary set me up with a pain management clinic this week. on top of the fibro and everything else.....jabbing, stabbing, stinging pains in breast where they did the biopsies and exersion. They set me up for May 6th.....a long way from now, seems like, but it will be good to see if they can help in any way!
    Hugs to you all.

    Paula

  • sunangel27
    sunangel27 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2011

    This is sooooooooooo sucky!!!!!!!!!      My best friend from Atlanta is here, and last night we went out to supper, sat on the couch had good laughs and such, but I am in such firggin' pain, it is hard to try to concentrate on having such a good time!! :(       And the depression is sat in this morning....... we have a fun day planned and I just wanna have a good time!!!!!!!

    Of course I KNOW she would understand, but it just sucks! :(

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    She would never understand like someone who has it....will she think you're just asking for attention? I hope not!!! I got that one a lot though.

  • sunangel27
    sunangel27 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2011

    that is true.........      but no, she wouldn't .   Last night we were talking and she said.  Paula welcome to humanity......you are human you are not a droid!! hehee    I was explaining some of the talking and complaining about pain, the surgery etc. to her during these last few months that we have talked online.           We do have a firend who is in a group of ours that complains constantly!! And I was telling her I didn't want to sound like "her".  She complains if she scratches her nose!! heheee

    Joan's mom had bc. and so she was very close to it. And her mom also had to take tammy....so she understands more than some that have never had it or never been around anyone that has had it.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011
    I think I am only now starting to realize how much my chronic pain has robbed me of my life.  I used to be a flight attendant but quit to be a full time mom.  I always had it in my head that one day I would go back since I loved it so much.  I've even started applying with a few airlines.  Last week though my DH and I flew to Miami for a doctor visit.  We were there for 3 days.  We drove for hours, took several flights and slept in a hotel.  By the end of the third day I was whipped.  Every muscle in my body ached, my brain felt overstimulated, I felt irritable and completely drained.  As we were descending back into Phoenix it suddenly hit me that this was probably no longer going to be an option for me.  I was mad and sad all at the same time.  The hardest part is my DH, though wonderful, didn't get that I can't do anything I put my mind to as he seems to think.  It isn't my mind that is the problem- it is my body.  Why does everyone just think it's "mind over matter"?  Don't they think if that were true we would want to feel better?  That we'd want to not be in pain, exhausted and walking around in a brain fog every day?  Who the hell would choose this for themselves?  Sorry.......I'm a little cranky this morning and tired of those who love me not understanding how hard this all is.  Thanks for letting me rant.Cry
  • sunangel27
    sunangel27 Member Posts: 310
    edited April 2011

    (((((((((((((((((Kate))))))))))))))))

    I so understand what you are saying!! It is horrible to have chronic pain and people not understanding!!!   and being so disappointed in our bodies :(

    I do work full time, but it isn't easy at all ! I have to push myself and force myself to laugh most of the time to just be able to function during the day/or night whichever shift I am working. Some of the people at work think that I am just a "happy person"......they don't know that I HAVE to force myself to be that way.........

    Please vent all you need to........that is one reason we are here.........to support each other no matter if it is fun times or venting times.......to be here for each other!
    Hugs to you again!

    Paula

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Paula, I laugh a lot too and people can't understand it when they find out how much I have wrong with my body. I figure you either laugh or you cry. I chose laughter.

    Kate, I was wondering when you were going to test your physical capabilities! I am SO sad that your body has let you down. I couldn't possibly do the jaunt that you just described with my FM. My body would shut down. I've gone on a plane with just my cane and come off in a wheelchair.....sigh. Way to much stimulation!!!

  • 3jaysmom
    3jaysmom Member Posts: 4,266
    edited April 2011

    hey girls.. ive been lurking, and i just wanted to tell you howmuch i relate!!people always ask me how i feel "now that my body betrayed me" ie; bc... i tell them it betrayed me a longer time ago than that!!i have very similiar issues with my ms., as in fibro.. at one point, a dr. tried to tell me i have both, but that just be!!doesn't really matter, cause they both act/ feel the same. its the immune /system thing.. anyway, im off to rest...its late (so what else is new) hahaha     3jays

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited April 2011

    yup, I had so many challenges with chronic pain before the breast cancer, and the chemo brought this to a whole new level.

    I cannot function without neurontin now....if I miss it, get this electrical buzzing feeling. I was just talking to my sister about this (she has similar symptoms.) I was sitting down in Rite Aid in one of their plastic chairs (yes too pooped and had to rest,) and I was leaning my leg against the plastic chair leg next to me. I was wondering what was happening as had I noticed what felt like an electrical current running down the chair's leg. then I realized it was me. It felt like my leg was resting against a fan on low.

    can anyone else relate? and it will also come in waves, small currents that make me feel like I am shaking from the shoulders down through my legs. I remember when I was a little girl and running around at my swimming meets that my legs would both ache terribly at the end of the day. The back pain started in earnest in high school.

    and yes, the pelvic pain, pudendal nerve pain and lower back pain are just fantastic.

    oh, for a cure.

    traci

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Traci, I get that feeling when I'm in bed. I think my DH is twitching or itching or something, but it's happened while I'm still reading and I can see that he's not moving!!

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited April 2011

    Barb,

    I was buzzing today as well. I wish there were some researchers interested in studying this weird symptom...I think I'll look at NIH to see if there are any studies...under fibro or musculoskeletal or autoimmune disorders, or all three.

    Hang in there all.

  • 3jaysmom
    3jaysmom Member Posts: 4,266
    edited April 2011

    hey gals..i have a low grade buzz constantly in my right hand. ive found that wearing gloves, and socks really helps. and yes, i didn't even think the low back pain i have now could be part of it. thanks, squidwitch..

        i tried neurontin, but i think im gonna try agsin,maybe i didnt wait to see long enough.. this constant twitching/clanging is driving me crazy!!!!

        glad you're not in too much (new) pain, Barbe...      3jays

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited April 2011

    3jays,

    I am going to assume you had chemo as well? I havn't been able to get back to my pre-chemo baseline (which wasn't very good either.) Years ago, I had tried Lyrica, and granted my MD probably started me on a dose that was too high, and I was dizzy spinning for 24 hours so I said never again! I havn't had the guts to try it again at a lower dose. So the neurontin for me has been really great. My pain MD started it before the chemo to try and preempt the side effect of neuropathy from the chemo. I did get neuropathy, worse in my feet than in my hands, but neurontin has been very helpful to me. It's inexpensive compared to Lyrica too. Because I am sensitive, and it makes me sleepy, I never made it past 3 300 mg. capsules at night, maybe one capsule during the day added on, on the weekends. I also feel like it mitigates the pain.There are some people that take divided doses throughout the day, so my dose is really the lowest that will provided symptom relief.

    Just go nice and slow...have your MD titrate you slowly, and you may begin to feel some better. I wish you the best, would you let us know?

    Traci

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited April 2011

    Do try it again 3 jays!! It takes about 6 weeks for it to truly be in your system and you'll know if it's working. After a day, you shouldn't be able to tell you are "on" something. Build it up slowly.....

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    sunangel- Thanks!!!!  It always helps to know someone out there "gets it".  I admire you working full time.  I think I've realized that a desk job will probably be a better fit for me.

    I haven't had the buzzing that everyone is describing.  Very interesting!  I just get the numbness in the feet mostly.  My biggest issue besides pain is the fatigue that just hits out of nowhere.  I'll be out shopping and then....WAM....I'm instantly so tired I feel like I just need to lay down somewhere.  It's all I can do to finish, get to my car and get home.  I think that's why I don't try to make too many plans or have too many appointments.  I just never know when it is going to hit. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2011

    barbe- Just wondered how everything went yesterday?  When do you get your results.  Hoping it's all A-OK!!!!  ((((HUGS))))

  • elimar86861
    elimar86861 Member Posts: 7,416
    edited April 2011

    I keep forgetting to check this thread from time to time.  Barbe, you always have good info. on this.  Hope you are feeling a bit better today.

    When I try to describe the feeling in my hands & feet, I have to tell docs, "It's not really a tingle, more like a vibration."  That does not really hurt, but it feels unpleasant.  Unfortunately, I have the pain also.

    3jays, I'm on Gabapentin (that's the generic of your Neurontin) but am only in my third week.  So far, it is not helping.  Everyone is different.  I do strive to be pain free and I am nowhere near giving up trying to achieve that goal.  Wish me luck!

  • 3jaysmom
    3jaysmom Member Posts: 4,266
    edited April 2011

    thanks, guys.. i think he ramped me up too fast, so gonna try it again...slower... the pt said she thought the falling i was experiencing was NOT the gab... it was a shortened tendon on the left side from wearing the wrong shoes (crocks) so, we'll see... if i get too tipsy, i can quit again.

         yes, squidwitch, i had LOTS of chemo, they had to titrate it doen for me, but i have diabetes, and that climbed really high from chemo. its' not come down enough yet.. but, some of that is from cheating.. ive just started to taste things again, and im not being as careful as i should be... ill letcha know.....      3jays

  • squidwitch42
    squidwitch42 Member Posts: 2,228
    edited May 2011

    I'm curious if anyone has really tight muscles as well? I was wondering yoga may help? There is also something called restorative yoga, but who has the $ to try? That's the next point of all of this...money for treatments outside of conventional medicine.

    I am going to start a regular gentle stretch program and see if it helps. comcast xfinity for yoga

    3jays, I sincerely hope you have some luck with the neurontin.

    Kate, yes, the fatigue. I have friends who do not understand why I have to negotiate my energy each day, and if I work, then I must come home and rest before doing any more errancs. More like fall face down on couch.

    elimar,

    so another person who understands the vibration, electrical current issue. I wish we could use this to tap into the universal energy source to win next weeks Powerball.

    traci

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited May 2011

    Traci, I like the way you say "negotiate your energy". One birthday for my son we were going to meet at a favourite bar and sing karaoke. He had me and DH book a room at the local Howard Johnson so I could nap before we went out and then I knew I was near the hotel so I didn't have to leave the party too soon. Amazing that my kids even negotiate my energy for me!

    I can sometimes do just one thing a day. Sometimes getting out of bed is that one thing...sigh. I've just been off work for 2 weeks and go back today (Sunday). Most of my days off I spent in my nighty all day and didnt' leave the house for days on end.... I justified it by saying if I was off down south somewhere I'd just be lying on a beach reading a book, so what's the difference of doing that in my bed?

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