Wine?
I am currently going thrugh chemo. I am Italian and wine and coffee are two of my biggest pleasures in life. I haven't had a single drink since my dx the first week of Jan. I am HIGHLY ER positive. I know wine/alcohol can effect these levels. What is your opinion? Can a drink or two every once in a while make a real difference in beating this? I would love to have a guilt free glass - maybe after chemo. ?
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Personally, I decided that cancer had taken away so much from me that I was going to enjoy my wine no matter what! I, too, am highly ER+ and worry a little about it, but my quality of life means something in this whole mess.
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I am a chardonnay drinker and I have asked every doctor I have seen about the alcohol issue and all of the docs have said that there is no reason to give up wine. I have recently read that they have found that alcohol may be a factor is some lobular cancers but not ductal. I agree with Deb that this illness takes away so much from us so if drinking a glass of wine or two helps maintain quality of life then it is worth it.
I am sure that there are many who will disagree but I'm trusting my docs to not steer me wrong.
Lorraine
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thank you for your responses. I just feel like everything I put in my mouth is bad and I am not too worry about eating super healthy during chemo, but will be doing so as soon as chemo is over. But want to enjoy a cold glass of white wine or champagne during dinner. I guess I'll wait until chemo is over
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Thunder....I don't remember if I drank during chemo....but that would have been due to not having a taste for it.....I drink a glass or two of wine whenever I feel like it.....I may drink a glass every day for a week, then go a month or more without any wine....QOL is important and if an occasional glass of wine helps with QOL, then I think its important.....During Dx, I got asked repeatedly how much I drank....but I've not been asked since....I eat healthy, try to keep a good weight, try to walk most days.....and so far, I've made it 5 years since Dx...all the best to you
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thank you Karen
QOL is very important also. I will be eating very healthy after chemo (don't think it matters as much now during chemo) and wine is definitely in man QOL plan. I will try to be as healthy as possible and will probably be more healthy than I've ever been. As long as I can keep this BC crap away - I will be a healthy, happy person. You are all the best.
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I would be careful about drinking during chemo. The alcohol could be hard on your mouth and cause sores.
Prior to cancer, I drank 1-3 drinks per week. This included wine, beer, cocktails, schnapps, and my beloved Baileys Irish Cream. I asked my onc if this would raise my recurrence risk, and she said absolutely not. She said that 1-2 drinks per day wouldn't be so good and could hurt my health in other ways as well, but she saw absolutely nothing wrong with a couple of drinks per week.
I agree, quality of life is important as well!
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Went to Spain on vacation after completing treatment -- sangria with lunch and dinner. Checked with my onc afterwards and she agreed that a little wine wasn't a problem as long as I wasn't drinking every day on a reguar basis. Viva QOL !!
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I drink a few times a week. We've all been through so much, and I personally am not cutting out everything pleasurable in my life.
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Thundershowers,
That was one of the questions I asked my MO. I didn't drink a drop of alcohol when I was dx. I just wanted to have a nice glass of white without fear or guilt. My MO said I could have two glasses a night.. He said as long as the alcohol wasn't substituting other calories, I could enjoy.
Like Debin, I decided that I had given up so much and was quite frankly had been handed one hell of a shitty hand, that a glass of wine was fine. However, I didn't drink the day before chemo and 3 days after until all the drug was out of my body.
Go ahead, enjoy. You deserve it.
Jules
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i didn't drink during treatment (chemo...rads)...however,once i finished treatment...i decided that a little wine would be good for me. and it has been **
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Thunder,
I have talked to my onc about this. Being Italian also, and our family has several resturants,
I too love my red wine. I agree with the girls, this beast has taken enough. Enjoy a glass of wine
when you feel like it! Here's the rule though, you have to learn to enjoy it with no guilt, don't guilt yourself about it or the enjoyment will be gone!!! SO live your life and enjoy your wine, and everything else, all in moderation thats the key. I just think this jorney takes time to find our place
back into our new normal world, and you will. Cheers!
Gods blessings
Stephanie
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Thunder. I totally agree with Faithfulheart's post. I loooove wine. I have it with dinner every night. I'm not Italian but possibly wish I was...lol
I didn't drink wine for the first 5 or 6 days after each chemo...I didn't really feel that my stomach could handle it but I did reward myself as soon as I felt well enough. I was concerned about the effects because I am highly er+ too. My onc said 1-2 glasses daily would not hurt me and in fact could give me some heart health benefits. I know there is alot of debate about this but nothing conclusive.
No Guilt and everything in moderation. This damn disease leaves us feeling guilty for so much...don't let it rob you of the simple joys in life.
Cheers
Beth
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I am Italian as well-I cherish coffee. I have one cup of expresso daily ( though I switched to almond milk versus dairy) I also drink wine once or twice week. I think drinking wine can be good for you:) It you are highly er positive focus on keep body fat/weigh down and working out daily-these are things you can do to cut reoccurence greatly..
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Thank you all! You have made me feel so much better. I feel as though I can take something back that I enjoyed before dx .... something that made me feel so good. I was afraid this disease was going to strip me of this pleasure. I think after chemo I will celebrate with a glass (or two)! XOXO
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I too gave up drinking after dx., I read some report about alcohol changing the way ER is absorb and was scared to death. But since I've finished chemo I do drink in moderation now, no ways like I use to, I save it for special occassions or when I just need it! We all need some pleasures in life.
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I love wine and I haven't stop drinking it. I still drink coffee and wine, but has stopped eating sweets. I figure if I omit Snickers and Ice cream I could allow myself wine when I want.
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I have not given up wine either. It is definitely a QOL issue for me. I am 100% ER+ and Lobular. My question is if, from what I have read, the problem with alcohol is that it increases the circulating estrogen but I am taking Femara which cuts these levels is alcohol still a factor? I know for a fact that my estrogen levels are low (right now at 2) because I have my levels checked periodically.
Is there another mechanism by which alcohol increases risk?
Cyndi
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I say yes, in moderation. Also, I'd wait until after treatment as it may exacerbate tummy issues from chemo.
Cheers!
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Cyndi~ I wonder the same thing. My tumours were both ILC and I'm taking Arimidex. I have found that if I ever went all out and had that extra glass of wine I have had dizzy and nauseaous spells that only started after Arimidex. Now I know to behave and have that glass or two with water also! I went on a trip to Italy last fall and they drink all the time yet we sure hear how healthy they are with their Mediterranean diets which include wine. My onc is from Italy and enjoys wine. Her comments to me were to maintain my weight and exercise......that's always a work in progress!
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I've never had wine, as I've never drunk much. That is going to change after chemo though!
So although I've never drank wine, I've eaten sushami, gotten acrylic nails, dyed my 1/2 inch long hair, eaten fruits and veggies and yogurt, and used standard makeup applicators (rather than new ones every time...yeeeeeaah. That'll happen). Also, it wasn't necessary for me to have any blood-boosting support like Procrit or Epogen.
I've never had a bad consequence of doing any of these things - quite the opposite. I like having pretty nails, and I like smoked salmon sushimi. Both of these things are good for me. I think that the general precautions are for folks that are having a serious immune symptom compromise. You'd know if you needed that kind of protection...if you need a mask, you don't need a strawberry.
So, anyway, that's my experience. If I wanted a glass of wine a night I would absolutely have it *providing* liver values are good.
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I have a glass of red wine everynight with dinner and I was an ILCer. Oncologist says it's ok and I was reading an article just today that said it's beer and hard liquor that you need to stay away from or drink less of, not the wine.
Bring on the Vino!!
Jan
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I asked my onc if I could have an occassional drink while having chemo and he said that would be fine. I was lucky and didn't have too hard of a time with my chemo cocktail (taxotere & cytoxan) so I wasn't worried about a glass of wine upsetting my stomach too much.
Cheers,
Syl -
Why, I think it's wine o'clock right now!
Janice
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