February 2011 chemo pals

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  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited March 2011

    Alison...check out the Physical Aging Appearance thread. The ladies have some good suggestions for skin dryness and other problems caused by chemo.

  • mamaoftwo
    mamaoftwo Member Posts: 267
    edited March 2011

    Hi Everyone- The new bald pictures of some of you look really good.  Bald is beautiful.  My hair and head is starting to tingle, so I'm thinking my days with hair are numbered.I keep checking the pillow,but no signs of hair yet!  My scarves are waiting-

    Chemo tomorrow is going to be postponed.  On antibiotics for throat infection this week, so most likely moving chemo #2 to Monday.  

  • jenn_h
    jenn_h Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2011

    Alison, my face hasn't been too bad, but I slather on the olay at nite. My hands feel like the back of an alligator though!!

    SpecialK, just need to add...OMG! I did the math too, you are going to be an awesome looking grandma someday!

    Charlotte'smom, my nails are breaking off like crazy, but I've never really taken much care of them...vitamin e cream works nicely on nails if anyone can find any...

    Pejkug, we've just been alike time wise through this whole silly thing! Hoping they can put some green stuff in the bag instead of the stuff that makes me pee red for St. Patty's Day...lol. The day my hair started coming out by the handful was around 14...it wasn't really coming out unless I ran my hand through or showered though. I'd bring a hat with you for the weekend, that's what I had to do over last weekend.

    I was signed up for the Look Good Feel Good class, but I don't think there were enough so it's not until early May now...I need it now, that's what I get for living in the middle of nowhere!

  • Cairycat
    Cairycat Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2011

    Got the greatest card today:  (front) Chemo sucks. (inside) But if it sucks the cancer right out of you, then "yay, chemo!"  Even better, my friend enclosed a gift card to a local restaurant so I can get out of cooking one night!

     Had my husband's barber buzz my remnants yesterday - feels better. 

     Good luck and very best wishes to all the Feb 11 chemo ladies.

    best from Carolyn in IA 

    2 out of 4 EC down, then 12 Taxol, then rads .....

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    jenn_h - Thanks for your kind words!  Right now I feel like I'm 80!!! 

    Cairycat - A friend sent me a card that had little buttons you can wear - one said "chemo sucks" and the other said "nurse's favorite" so I pinned the "chemo sucks" one to my bag last time because I didn't want them to think I had a bad attitude.  Tomorrow I am considering pinning it to my shirt right next to my port!  Maybe I should pin them both there?  How exciting that you are half way through your EC!  Hang in!

  • Deborah46
    Deborah46 Member Posts: 5
    edited March 2011

    Hi Ladies ~ I am new to posting here but have been following all your conversations as I began chemo on Feb 4th and am now 6 days out of my 3rd AC.  After 1 more round of AC I am set to begin Taxol 4x dense dose.  I see that my chemo calendar notes that I will be given steroids the day of infusion (i believe)...does anyone know why the steroids and what they are supposed to help with?

    Glad to see everyone is hanging in there - thanks for all your posts, they have been very helpful!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    Steroids are for nausea and inflammation.  Welcome Deborah 46.  I only get them on the day of infusion but some others start them day before and continue for several days after.

  • mks16
    mks16 Member Posts: 415
    edited March 2011

    Day two after my second AC. It was definitely not as easy than my first AC. More nausea, headache, exhaustion and just laying on the couch, unable to move or talk.

    My oncologist advised to stop the anti-nausea pills she prescribed the first time as they were causing severe palpitations and to go with Gravol. Gravol did nothing for me. However, I also have steroids to take every 12 hrs, and as soon as I took them last night, it only took 30 minutes to feel much better. This morning I feel almost fine. I will continue steroids for 48 hrs after the chemo, that is supposed to get me through the worst SE. 

    Does everyone else's face turn pale yellow on the day of chemo? This morning I am flushed crimson red, from steroids but yesterday I was looking scary and kids were uneasy, secretly glancing at my face. It was the same during my first round.

     SpecialK and everyone else going in, good luck today!

  • dogeyed
    dogeyed Member Posts: 884
    edited March 2011

    People, oh I feel like I'm dying again.  I am one week out from chemo #2, and last time I got a little better each day.  Not so this time.  I THOUGHT I was getting better this second time when I was I guess four days out, but then I got slammed again, just like I had a second dose of chemo.

    I usually don't dream, and last two nights have been very involved color dreams that go on and on and are in settings I don't relate to, I wake up with fever (99.7), really frightened, burning up, hurt SO bad all over.  And now MY FEET are ubersensitive, if it weren't for my new pain medicine, I would have lost my mind.  Had to get up this morning at 3 a.m., just could not lay in the bed no more, TV had NOTHING on, it seemed wierd, lucky husband was up, he was so sweet to me.  He goes, "You know, when I had chemo before and it was over, I said that wasn't so bad," but now that he hears me moaning and looks at my dark circles and gray skin, and almost baldy head, he says it reminds him how awful he really did feel.

    My bloodwork was fine before last chemo, my boob feels better, but I am just SO sick and hurting and going a little crazy.  You know that song by Seal, "If we're ever gonna survive, we're gonna have to go a little crazy," well that's the truth.  Oh, I am suffering so.  NOwhere to run, NOwhere to hide.  All I can do is pray this roller coaster thing slows down pretty soon.  The thought of another night of scary dreams and waking up constantly, I really get teary-eyed.  Has anyone else had their feet hurt with the AC chemo?  Maybe I need to ask them to cut back on dose next time, or put me in hospital with I.V. of morphine for the duration.  Ohhhhhhh, I am filled with dispair.  GG

  • Paula66
    Paula66 Member Posts: 1,728
    edited March 2011

    Hi Deborah46!!!  We have our treatments on the same day.  I will do the happy dance when I move on to the taxol.  The treatment nurse told me that its alot easier to tolerate.  Wow I hope so. 

    Well Im 6 days out and Im starting to feel decent.  Im not ready to run a marathon, but atleast Im not tuckered out by 9am.  I am staring to get a sore thoart and thats giving me a mini freakout.  Alot of nasty stuff has been going around and I just dont want it.  I started to have my temp go up but overnite it went down, whew.  But the sore thoart is more of an issue.  Heck I dont know why Im whining, if I can have both of the girls removed I can live through a sore throat.  Come on pull up the big girl panties Paula, lol.

    Ok Im so ready for winter to be over.  My ears are freezing.  I choose not to wear a wig so I have them exposed, brrrrrr.  Im so glad that this is just a temp thing.  Im glad Im not a bald dude.  Mine will come back.  I cant see why some guys choose to shave it during this time.

    Well sisters Ive gotta go do that nasty little thing called work, UGH.  I see ya all later.  Take care and stay strong!.

  • Cairycat
    Cairycat Member Posts: 9
    edited March 2011

    Dogeyed, I am sorry that you are feeling so bad.  That's rough!  All the dreams and problems with temperature regulation can make sleep feel worse than not, almost. 

    I thought Taxol was more likely to cause foot pain than AC or EC.  You might call your doctor about it, especially since you're not feeling very good anyway.  

     I'll be thinking of you today and hope you're feeling better soon.

    all the best,

    Carolyn in IA

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited March 2011

    Hello friends!  I had a medication screw up ... haven't felt good at all this week.  Ended up at the hospital yesterday for fluids and IV anti nausea somethin somethin ... ick.  Slightly better today. I was so happy to come to the boards and read all of your stories - I feel more human ... more like I am a part of something bigger - rather than just suffering though this crap all alone.  I literally don't know a single person who has gone thru chemo and you are all such a comfort to me...

    I shaved the rest of my hair off - I can't believe how painful that actually became!!  I have found that sleeping with a soft cap last night helped A LOT!  Oh ... my nuelesta shot is $4,200.00 each. 

    So this fatigue is really the very worst part for me right now - it literally makes me sick - all day long.  Does anyone have any suggestions to fight that?  I just have nothing - no focus, no motivation, no energy...

    I called to ask for my leave to be extended ... there's no way I can make it there tomorrow.  I called one of my boss's ... he makes me so mad ... I told him that I won't be able to travel out of town and he said, "Well, then I don't need you anymore."  Then, a few comments on how much weight I was going to gain and I suddenly had to get off the phone ...

    Geez....sorry about all my whinning ... maybe I need a time out ... or some of those brownies ...

  • Salma1971
    Salma1971 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2011

    Oh Fuzzylemon... I am sooooooo sorry you are going through a tough time... This happened to me in my first cycle... I told my oncologist to pump up my meds for the second one... but I still have to find out about that on the 21st of March. Your boss seem so insensitive.. I can't believe there are people out there like that... Add him to the BIGGEST STUPID list on the OMG thread...

    I wish there is something we can help you with... I mentioned before.. try plain humous.. it's miraculous for the nausea... peanut butter is also a good option...

    Good luck..

  • sukie10
    sukie10 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2011

    Oh seriously Fuzzymon. Your boss is a real jerk! I'm glad your feeling a little better today.

    The exhaustion has been my biggest problem since day one. I'm up for 4 down for 4 most days. If I don't go down for 4 I can't seem to do anything until I do. I have literally started planning my life around naps. I'd never make it through an 8 hour shift at work. I did find drinking V8 juice gave me a bit more energy. Its worth a try if you like it.

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited March 2011

    I love peanut butter and love V8!  Thanks a bunch ... I'll try anything ...

    Yeah - I'd like to kick him in the nuts ... but it will wait until I feel better cause it'll be well intended and must have proper landing ... ;) He's such a jackass ...

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    Just home an hour ago from #2.  Lisa GH and dragonfly this triplet hopes you are doing OK.  My onc was impressed with my "hair helmet" - said he was surprised I still have so much hair.  I was like, "don't look at it crosseyed, it will all fall off at once".   Of course, to myself, I look like a receding hairline/comb-over guy, but nobody else notices and what the heck, it's making me laugh!  I was out faster today, in at 8:30 out by 2ish.  They gave me the option of running the Herceptin in 60 instead of 90 minutes.  I felt OK but a little unsteady.  We devised a new anti-nausea battle plan since I had some issues last time.   We'll see if it works better.

    dogeyed/GG and fuzzy - sorry you are struggling.  I will be there with you in a day or so.  GG do you have pain or could it be neuropathy in your feet?  Also, how much steroid are you taking?  It definitely causes nightmares/vivid dreams and hallucinations.  Excuse my French but Fuzzy your boss is a douchebag.  And that is even a french word!

    I think for so many of us who are used to being hard charging it is difficult to accept that for some days we will feel pretty useless.  Just think of it as forced downtime for healing/recovery from the poisoning we just received.  The fact that we are surviving it as well as we are is a tribute to our stubborn determination.  That we are frustrated by inactivity and non-productiveness (is that a word?) is testimony to what kind of people we are - namely, fighters!

  • jenn_h
    jenn_h Member Posts: 149
    edited March 2011

    I am so sry dogeyed and fuzzy for your pain and general ickyness...I have been doing pretty good, this is 1 week after treament 2 so I am almost feeling normal again except now the headaches start...I am also constipated and I wasn't going to be so vivid however I want to add that my butt currently feels like I shot 3 molotov cocktails out of it...the only reason I chose to add this is b/c now I want to say that I wish this same affliction upon fuzzy's boss!!!

  • thefuzzylemon
    thefuzzylemon Member Posts: 2,630
    edited March 2011

    Special K - You really have a way with words!!  Even the french ones!  Jenn - HAVE AT 'EM GIRL!  Thank you so much for letting me vent!!  I call him "Dick".  Stinkey Dick on the really bad days!  Aw geez - you made me laugh!  Thank you!!

     HUGS!

  • EmilyInOntario
    EmilyInOntario Member Posts: 626
    edited March 2011

    Sorry you are having a rough time dogeyed and fuzzy...tomorrow I will be joining you as I get to "dance with the red devil" in the morning...makes me nauseated thinking about it...

    Hang in there guys...I'll be counting on the OMG thread to get through my days of misery...

  • ruffy
    ruffy Member Posts: 141
    edited March 2011

    Hope you gals feel better soon!! I also get crazy fatigue and naseau - I don't think the weather helps much for our cause right now, here anyways its pretty rainy and grey. I wish there was a way that we could all magically bypass the week post chemo-i go for my third AC on Monday and I already feel ick just thinking about it. The good news is that we really are making progress. We're all battling this stupid bc and we're moving forward. Easy for me to say today cause I feel alright, someone might need to remind me next week, lol.

    Fuzzylemon-I'm sorry about your boss on top of everything else- what is wrong with some people????? Seems like you have a good outlook about it though. S.D. Lol

    Special k- hope your meds work great and you have a goid next couple of days.

    Jennh-glad you're feeling good :)minus the constipation. I made date squares last time to help me out with that. Might have helped me out with my sugar craving more :)

    Suki- I'm with you on the exhaustion. It's like nothing I've EVER felt before-my poor daughter- it's like nap time all day around here sometimes !



    Hang in there ladies, do what you need to to get through the yuck :(

  • lorenar
    lorenar Member Posts: 141
    edited March 2011
    Hi Ladies. So glad for those of you feeling well and so sorry for yoy who are not feeling well. Today is day 5 of # 3 chemo and I feel crappy still. Havent had much nausea this round but either exhausted  or anxious all day and night. I agree with you who say we feel about 80 years old, Im ready to go back to 41 again. Ha. Okay ladies I am gonna get my icecream I have found it is the one little bowl of friend throughout this adventure. Lots of love to you all.
  • Dogbiskit
    Dogbiskit Member Posts: 23
    edited March 2011

    Hello all you gorgeous women! Lurking for a while but wanted to quickly post a few things. This morn was chemo #2 and I've been feeling crap for the past 8 hrs, at least nausea finally subsiding but I have a heavy head and I'm not looking forward to the peeing and sweat marathon I'm expecting overnight.



    Dogeyed, I hope you feel better soon. It really helps to read these threads and know you're not alone and it's going to pass eventually. The last 4 days were so good I almost forgot all the suffering of last week.



    Fuzzy you're boss is unbelievable. It's not right. Can you talk to HR about his inappropriate comments? I would not stand for that. Wow makes me really appreciate how utterly awesome and supportive my work has been with me.



    Jenn

    if your butt hole still sore, moisten a round cotton pad with witch hazel, fold and place folded edge along along the, errrr, crack. Tried tested and true for almost instant relief. It's miraculous for external hemorrhoids too.

    I'll post more later!
  • alison0415
    alison0415 Member Posts: 35
    edited March 2011

    dogeyed and fuzzy - I am really sorry about the week you have had.  I sure hope you feel better soon and I hope someone drop kicks that boss out the door!!!  What is wrong with people?

    I spent a beautiful day in Malibu with my son who was on a photoshoot.  Then on the way home while driving I just brushed my hands through my hair and out came a wad of it!  Well in the couple hours that I've been home, I've manage to pull out piles of it.  Just such a shock as it happened so suddenly.  We are going out of town this weekend and I'm thinking I'm not going to have much left by then at the rate it's coming out.

    It's not like I knew this wasn't going to happen, but between that and my face, it's hard to look in the mirror right now...... and spending the day with a bunch of models didn't help, lol!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    alison - Do you have a hair plan for the weekend?  This was my issue last weekend as I had an out of town bridal shower.  I didn't want to be half bald or leave a trail of hair in everybody's food!  My hair held out and I sprayed it (cut short a few weeks ago) so it was ok.  It seems to be falling out still at the same rate, steadily but not yet in patches.  I am outfitted with hats/scarves/buff/beaubeau scarf/wig but I look like a strange pirate in the scarves and I just find the wig scary!

    I would definitely stop hanging out with models too!  Except your son!

  • mks16
    mks16 Member Posts: 415
    edited March 2011

    Buzzed off my hair last night. Actually I asked my 15 and 7 year old do it for me, we made it a fun event and I didn't find it at all upsetting. I wanted to include my 7 year old, as she had a hard time when I cut my hair short couple of months ago and I didn't expect her to love this "hairdo" any more:) She is fine with it now since she participated in the process.

    My stomach is very queasy and feels sore. I made sure to stick to bland food yesterday, but it kept getting worse as the day went on. Not sure what else to try. I am also constantly thirsty, my mouth is very dry and my lips are chapped although I drink A LOT of water. Chamomille tea doesn't sit well, and neither do juices... not sure what else to try.

    Fuzzy, Ruffalo and dogeyed... hope you all feel better soon! You definitely sound like you have it way worse than me so I will stop complaining now! Hating the yucky weather but it won't stop me from going for a long walk this morning. Walking my dog is my escape from this disease and I feel normal and healthy and can still enjoy the outside air, even when its raining or snowing. Thank God for that!

    Best wishes to all

  • sukie10
    sukie10 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2011

    Dogbiskit thanks for joining us. I see you are triple neg like me. I'm just wondering how you are making out with that news? I'm finding it really hard (mentally) to do too much research.

    Debora46 I know we are from the same Provence. Any chance your near our capital city?

    My head just got sore and itchy this morning. I guess losing my hair is about to follow...right on schedual. I'm going to a look good feel good session on Monday. A little me day should be good before my next trip to see the wizard. 

  • crog234
    crog234 Member Posts: 801
    edited March 2011

    Day 12 from last chemo and finally feeling good.  Yeaterday was a good day too.  I actually was able to accomplish something.  Started working on my baby quilt for my second granddaughter.  I think I will feel good at least until Monday when I go for my last (#4) A/C.  Can't wait to have that one over with. 

    Wishing all who have treatment today and tomorrow to have no SE or at least very mild ones...

     Have a great day everyone.

    Cindy

  • NeyNey
    NeyNey Member Posts: 33
    edited March 2011

    Today I feel human!!!  Just finished treatment #3 on Monday and today my DH fixed me scrambled eggs, biscuits and bacon with my first coffee in 4 days!  This one was a doozy!  A couple of hours after treatment I had to call the cancer center after hours because of  intense nausea/vomiting and was told to double up on my ABH meds.  THAT knocked me out....which is what you want when you are nauseated.....I basically took meds and slept for 3 days with a little prodding to drink, drink drink.  I'm back upright and ready to see my college aged daughter who is coming home to spend her spring break with her mama!  I've found that the yellow Gatorade and unsweetened tea are the two things I can drink.  Peanut butter was suggested but felt like I was strangling....so a dear lady from church brought chicken salad.  Yep, chicken salad on a piece of bread every couple of hours did the trick.  Remember to get plenty of protein!

    Thanks for the site...Hip Hats & Fashion with compassion.  I received my "Hair" yesterday and it is beautiful!  I've never had long hair but intend on wearing it shoulder length under my hats (especially my cowgirl hats).  Going to see if my stylist will come to the house and cut it for me.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend..... 

  • Dogbiskit
    Dogbiskit Member Posts: 23
    edited March 2011

    Sukie This is the second time around for me - I had BC 17 years ago when I was 27 and at the time they did not test for three markers.  The oncologist told me that it was highly likely I had triple negative back then too.  Since the tumor at the time was only 1.6cm, all I had was lumpectomy and radiation and that was a piece of cake compared to this chemo business ouch!  Now 17 years later they consider it to be a new occurrence and not a recurrence.  If you read the wikipedia explanation of triple negative (and many other sites for that matter), well we might as well just go straight to the funeral home!  The truth is that it is highly treatable and in fact my tumor has already shrunk 1 cm from just one chemo!!  yay me!  Let's hope the trend continues!! I am doing DD AC x4 and Taxol x4.  I have signed up for genetic testing and I won't be at all surprised if I turn out positive so I am also ok with having both girls removed as well as my ovaries. I don't want to go through this a third time.  I'm also doing colonoscopy every 3 years but I'll have to put that on hold a few months as I was due for that now.  I tell you I'd rather have breast than than colon and colon it's so preventable. 

     After my first BC I became acutely aware of my own mortality and since then I've had 5 friends die of various things which makes it even more so.  I have endeavoured over these years to have fun with friends and family and travel and eat that piece of cake if I really want it.  I've had a good life.  I saw a movie called One Week with joshua jackson where he gets diagnosed and decides to go on a road trip.  It was excellent and inspired me to take off last minute to Vancouver with my bf and then NYC with my friend for two wonderful mini vacations between diagnosis, follow up appointments and chemo.  It cost an arm and a leg and my bf and I stayed at one of the top hotels and it was worth every penny.  In NYC my friend and I ordered tons of champagne and ate well and shopped. Sooo glad I did that.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited March 2011

    Hi everyone -

    I hope everyone is resting comfortably today and/or feeling better.  Welcome newbies!  I went for Neulasta today - the nurse who gave it was so skilled I never even felt it at all.  Almost forgot my Claritin, took it at the last minute!

    Just starting the slide into feeling like poo, head starting to hurt and feeling like I need to lay down.  Didn't sleep last night (steroid high) but I only get that day of tx so I plan on sleeping tonight like a big dog! 

    Lorenar - love the bowl of "friend", so cute!

    Cindy and NeyNey -  glad to hear from you, I missed you lately!

    mks16 - I did well with Typhoo tea and honey.  It is British but I found it in the grocery storehere in FL.  I also have heard that ginger tea is good for a upset tummy, and that is easy to find.  I also liked Cream of Wheat with a little butter and brown sugar, and mashed or baked potato.

    Hang in ladies!

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