February 2011 chemo pals
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FEC-D Start: Jan 28/2011 Cycle 2/6 Day 12
jenn
My hair started falling out about day 14 after chemo and by day 21 was coming out in handfuls. By day 23 I had about 2% left and haven't really lost that last bit. I really don't know why I didn't snip off the rest other than it amuses me? ( odd sense of humour I guess) And I'm curious to see if it ALL falls out yet. Plus it's so cold here I may have deluded myself into thinking it keeps my head a little warmer. I do wear a hat in the house too.
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I'm dreading the hair thing. The anticipation is driving me nuts!
I have two friends coming over on Thursday to cut off my long lengths. One friend sews and she says she can attach my hair to velcro to use in hats. I don't know it it will work, but we're going to try.
My older son (11) and one of my twin sons (6) are having a hard time with the idea of me losing my hair.
I'm hoping to have hair by Christmas - my last chemo should be June 9. Christmas is feasible, right?
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Hey MY Feb Warrior Friends,
Have not posted a a few days and just caught up with everyone. I am in the "good Week" and trying to get ducks in a row in prep for next week.
so glad to hear every is doing OK...I am gearing up for EC round 3 on Thursday.
pejkug3-i too have a large head confirmed by the wig lady.-23 1/2" the beubeu scaves are working good- that was the link that was just posted hair4women and I will look for another i used that actually had sized hats and scarves that worked very well. the gaila scarves work and they will send one at no charge to cancer patients. There is a thread here with lots of great links for hats and scarves i will bump it as soon and I am done posting so it comes to the active thread list. You should have hair for a december wedding, my friend who went throughout this last year said it started growing back right after the last chemo treatment, here started out in tight curls. we get 1/2" growth a month should be good for the december wedding. one girl told me today I should use my wig when I go out even when my hair comes back as she loves the cut and style!
My hair loss has slowed-there is not much left but the tingling has stopped. I have not yet buzzed but it it cut very short 1/2'. I agree it is better to take the jump and cut/buzz when it starts to go, the proces of it falling out is more distressing than I thought, MIchelle i love the Charlie brown christmas tree image...I was most emotional when it was very thin and it did not look like me, now that it is cut and I have the wig and scaves i feel better about it. I love the image of our heads reminding people to get their mammogram- a great powerful message.
I am wearing a wig to work and a scarf at home. People think the wig is mine unless I tell them but that I either blew it out or had a keratin treatment, so I will enjoy my new straight hair for the duration then back to my curls/waves/cowlicks.
I am wondering if the shedding process will begin anew with next treatment? Will let you all know.
Has anyone else been getting very heavy periods? I thought I was done for good last summer and have had 3 in the last 2 months...I thought Chemo was supposed to stop that.
I also had a sore throat. Was worse after the first TX, found biotine rinse helped a lot. some also recommend gargling with salt water.
so glad the kids are taking the news well. My 15YO son wanted me to get a mohawk but by the time I had it cut it was to thin to even do for a photo op. They have been very supportive and said that they are confident because I am confident but the 15YO did want me to onfirm that the doctors were confident too and it was just me. I think the older ones have to process in their own time.
sorry this seems to be rambling.
Good luck to all having treatments this week, hope for light SE for all, it definitely helps knowing that we feel pretty good again by day 7-8.
for treatment day also bring some easily digestible snacks to eat while there, I think I look like I am moving in too but spend a lot of time in the waiting room and feel better with book, ipod, ipad, water bottle, snacks, tissues,lip balm etc. I have my tote bag loaded to go.
{{HUGS}}to all
jean
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Jenn,
I am doing EC which is equivalent of AC. head started tingling the night of my second TX day 15, the next day light shedding, by day 17 was come out in clumps whenever I touched it needed to keep a trash can next to me to put the hair in, shower lots came off, I was still able to go with my hair day 20 but very thin and rapidly thinning, cut short night of 21 day when I picked up my wig.
Jean -
Good morning ladies,
Well I did have zero white counts again AND am anemic...so back under house arrest. I can say that losing the hair over the weekend was a traumatic experience and every time I see myself in a mirror am startled. I, too, told myself that it was indicative of the chemo doing it's thing and am glad to see the cancer is being eradicated. Understanding the "what head covering do I wear" and being very self conscious about it has intensified. My head is still very sensitive and the wigs feel different bald. Anyone have a suggestion about what type of head cap to wear under their wigs? I chucked the wig yesterday and wore a hat; scarves also feel much better. I may end up not wearing a wig at all. I did go to the underhair sight suggested and am awaiting a sample ring to match hair color. Thanks for posting that one in Tampa.
I was able to do lite yardwork yesterday morning. My daffodils are up and had 2 bags in garage that didn't get planted in fall-they were sprouting through the bags so I decided if they could sprout in adverse conditions, so could I! I put those bulbs right in the ground-which leads me to my next comment...Day 9-14 Yay!!!!! I was able to function yesterday with no nap, nausea or bone pain!!! I'm relishing in the good days and thankful that God answers prayers!
Have a great day ladies!!!!
Renee
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Good Morning all. Today is day 3 of my 3rd treatment of A/C. Yesterday was a very up day. Didn't sleep to well last night so am very sleepy today. I feel ok otherwise. I think I started loosing my hair at day 20, but still have some stubble. I have even taken duck tape and gotten some of the loose straglers but does not take it all. Had my nueslesta shot yesterday and it was the first time that I felt anything while she was giving the shot. Nothing bad just had never felt it befroe. I am expecting where tomorrow is day 4 that I will have a few down days (just because that is what happened the last 2 treatments).
Hope everyone has a good day. Only 1 more A/C and then on to Taxol.
Cindy
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Cindy and others who already had a few AC treatments... do you find the SE to increase with each new dose?
If you were tired after the first one, are you more tired after the second? I am now day six past the first treatment, and I feel 99% fine, but I wonder if it will get progressively worse, so I can plan accordingly. -
Renee - that's great that you're able to garden and get outside with the daffodils. Being in the sun is a great way to keep your spirits up. Thank goodness for spring, finally! I don't know about wig caps (yet) but if you call a wig store or get online I'm sure you can order a cap. I heard that some wigs are itchier than others depending on the type of hair and whether wefted or hand-tied, etc.
Cindy- Glad to hear you're feeling up. Sounds like you're doing well tolerating AC and Taxol is supposed to be easier.
I am on day 7 of my first cycle and feeling very fatigued and depressed about this whole situation. Part of it is that I have been up a lot the last two nights with a sore throat and low-grade temp and I'm tired of not feeling 100%. The onc says not to worry until it's over 100.5, so I'll just have to hope my body fights the virus. Seriously thinking of taking a leave of absence from work if this continues. In the meantime, will try to take a lunchtime nap or a walk in the sun. THat always helps.
Hope everyone is having a better day.
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Hi all, I'm a little late getting back here, treatment two is tomorrow.
Fuzzy, the way it worked for me is, and according to some of my chemo papers, third or fourth day is when people are at rock-bottom with feeling awful. Also, sore throat can happen from the chemo, too, so gargling and swishing salt water with a little baking soda in it helps a lot, four times a day at least.
Golfer, I did my wig shoppping with my mother yesterday, and I also got some cool scarf "caps" that are pre-tied, but I also borrowed one of my mother's regular large rectangular ones. So, find a long one, buy one if you need to, it'll cover your splotchy fallout head, and yet your good hair sections can peek out fom under the scarf to look nice. The scarf, you begin it across your forehead a few inches above your eyebrows, wrap it around to the back and tie it, then wrap it all the way around and tie it, with the long pieces as "hair" on the sides or back, you know. My tying advice isn't perfect, online may have some tie type methods.
Ladies, Thursdays are my chemo days every two weeks, new one tomorrow. Well, just a few days ago, on Monday, I actually felt almost normal, other than being weak and irritable as the day wears on. So, it was great to see my folks, did the wig shopping, glad I've got some stuff for when the hair goes. I got this cute little terry-cloth "bed hat," it looks like a small version of a baker's hat, purple of course, and I'm gonna wear that at home all the time (I live in my PJs, I'm 60 and I've earned it! Ha!). My scarves are for groceries, etc. And hair wig is for "personal appearances." It's not as long as my regular hair (to the waist), but more shoulder-length-ish, so when my real hair reaches that length, I can switch over and let it continue to grow.
QUESTION: I'm thinking about when my hair starts to part with my skull and float off into the winds of forever, that I shall rubberband it and cut it, and donate it to myself. I'm trying to figure out a way to keep those ends (glued?) stuck together, and then I can use a clip barrett to attach the ponytail to my real hair when it grows out some. That way I have my long hair back in a hurry. I've thought about supergluing it to a strip of cloth, not quite as long as my clips, or mashing the ends into lots of uber-sticky duct tape, or WHAT SHOULD I DO? It's probably a lost cause. But if wig people can make falls and extenders out of real hair, so can I, I think!!! Maybe I'll look online at "make your own extensions" or something, DYI sort of thing, or study them and try to replicate what I see. ANY IDEAS FOR ME? It's a lot of hair, not too thick, just very long.
Well, back to being attacked by a Kimono Dragon tomorrow, and will be miserable for a half-dozen days or so. I'm gonna ask nurse for anti-nausea drug that will knock me out eight hours... drove me nuts to wake up at 2 a.m. with fever and nightmares and pain. Or guess I need to just ask the doc to give me pain medicine, I have some pills for my back problems, but can't be taking extras of those or I'll run out. Maybe I need to make an appointment with him for tomorrow or Friday when I come back for the shot.
Oh, and I cannot hardly stand the thought of having to begin Taxol after this Adrian/Cyto stuff is done in a couple more weeks... I posted a new thread in the forum "Help with Treatments," I think it is, about how come some chemos take so many weeks!?! Divine, I'm also taking chemo as presurgery thing, but not doing reconstruction, the doc just wants good margins. So, I'm doubly concerned about waiting around sooooo long for surgery, it'll be 12 weeks of Taxol. So, thought I'd let you ladies know, if you had any interest in that subject, that it's over there.
Love to all, GG (dogeyed)
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Since we're talking about hair, I finally uploaded a picture. I saw where Jean mentioned a mohawk. I did shave mine into a mohawk. So that's the pic I uploaded for now. I didn't keep it, b/c when I put the gel in to spike it, there was hair coming out everywhere. But I did take some pics for fun. I actually really liked it. I would have kept it for a few days but it wasn't really possible.
Renee, I too have low counts today and am anemic. I feel like I'm home all the time anyways. I work mostly from home so I really didn't plan to go anywhere. I hope yours bounce back soon! I love to garden and I can't wait until it's warm enough here to plant some flowers.
I also take a big bag with me to chemo. I take snacks as well. I have a question for everyone on that subject. I have lost all appetite for every snack I've eaten through chemo. The first time I had some cheese and crackers and the thought of those now makes me gag. Also, the 2nd time I had some chicken noodle soup and pretzels...ugh. I'm thinking next time I should take in some brownies. haha...maybe that will kick my sweet tooth. But I'm not sure I want to do that to myself. Has that happened to anyone else? Of course I get nauseous pretty quickly after chemo and it lasts for about 4 days for me, despite all the meds.
And on the subject of periods...I have now missed mine for the first time in the 15 years it's been around. I shouldn't speak too soon though because it's only a few days late, but I was always sooo regular. So we'll see. I kind of hope I don't get it, b/c I've heard several people mention how painful it is when doing chemo.
Dogeyed-I'm sorry, but I don't have a creative idea for the hair situation. I think googling it is a good idea. And I think you're right, that if people can make extensions and wigs out of real hair, then there should be some way you can save it. Just cut it in rubberbands. You'll have plenty of time to figure it out.
Have a great day everyone!
Melanie
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Melanie, your picture looks great, mohawk brings out your pretty face and your smile is beautiful:)
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mks Sounds like you are doing great... I am more tired earlier this time but I also have not been sleeping good because of other problems so not sure you can go by me. Plus everyone is deifferent in what they feel.
Cindy
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Hi everyone, I haven't posted as much here because I've been over on the TCH board but I've been keeping up with everyone. I started chemo on 2/15/11 so I'm on day 15 of cycle 1. My hair began shedding terribly this morning in the shower. The drain was full of hair and my hands were full of hair...it was just endless. When I brushed it, it just kept filling the brush. I've decided to try to make it until Friday and then I'm going to buzz it...it's just falling out so fast and making a mess. I got a lot more emotional about it than I expected. I'm going to take the day off from work on Friday to deal with it because I'm afraid I'll be really upset when my husband cuts it off. I have the wig ready but I have such mixed feelings about it. When I put it on it just feels like I'm wearing a costume. I guess it's going to take time to get used to it. Thanks for letting me vent.
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dragonfly - hey my triplet! I am right behind you on the hair deal - today is the first day I got excess hair in the comb so I know what is coming. I guess I will give up the notion that I might be the one in a million who doesn't lose their hair! Plus we MUST think of it in terms of physical proof that the drug is working and killing the bad stuff along with our hair. I too feel that my wig looks like 365 days of Halloween, but what can I do? I am not game enough to go bald in public, although I may rethink that during the Florida summer. I look like a jackass in hats and the scarf deal is so obvious I think people just look at you with pity. So now I will be worrying about the top of my head along with trying to keep my lopsided prosthetic situation where it belongs. Yesterday I realized it had traveled to the center of my chest - I looked a cyclops/unifoob.
As always - laugh or cry? Gotta choose laugh.
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SpecialK Okay, thanks for that post-actually made me laugh which was not easy today. I'm having a bad day between the major shedding and starting my period on the same day and definitely needed something to smile about. The "365 days of Halloween" comment is hysterical-you totally summed it up for me! I'm taking control and buzzing my hair on Friday...
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My hair is gone. This is me no wig here. Started the clumps today. After my Herceptin got it buzzed off- then came home and shaved the rest.
Cried before several times, but not after. I was starting to really fixate on it with worry, and ready to be done. Feels weird, but freeing too- I cannot explain it. My family is ok w/ it (I have teenagers and older). Husband was with me (he's awesome).
So, just glad to not to have to think about it. The wig though is so so itchy. I don't know that I'll get used to that......
Lisa
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Lisa -
What kind of wig did you get?
I ordered two, they should come this week. One is monofilament, the other is just 'regular', I guess?
My hari hasn't started to shed, but I'm already dreading it. My husband keeps telling me not to cut it, "What if you don't lose it?" - but I feel like that's false hope.
Two friends are coming over to scissor it off tomorrow. I don't know if I'll get to the point where I buzz it - that just seems so traumatic in my mind.
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My wig was a raquel welch from Merle Norman- didn't realize it but they helped me try on many in choosing. It's itchy- but I'll find a cap that I think will help wear under it. It looks ok.
To me the traumatic part was seeing the clumps all day today. Many tears. The clipper was relief. I didn't cry then- I felt in control w/ it- I have to admit that helped some. I mean we all have so little control over what happens to us w/ treatment etc.
Glad my family is not freaked by the bald head- think that's going to be me except when others are around!!!!
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Good evening all! I have my second treatment on Friday ... getting a little nervous ... Does anyone do anything to prepare for their next round? I was pretty ill for six days following the last one ...
Hugs and a smile!
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Hi Fab Feb Gals. My head is itching like one mofo! I tried on a cute hat at Target today and when I whipped it off, it was full of my stubble. Ugh. DIdn't want to buy it. Hope no-one saw. I did buy a huge extra sticky lint roller. LOL!
I'm having the Neulasta-induced back spasms just like last time. Nothing serious, I just recognize the sensation. A couple of pain killers, some asparagus-stuffed breasts and a couple of puffs... oh wait, that's that OTHER thread.
Off to bed soon. I need a good, itchless night's sleep.
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LOL!!! It can be thihs thread too!!
I'm pooped myself ... have a great night!
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FEC-D Start: Jan 28/2011 Cycle 2/6 Day 13
Fuzzylemon..I dreaded my second round as well..but actually it seemed easier to get through the 6 days of misery...SE's were slightly less brutal and I found I bounced back more quickly.
I see the asparagus has made it's way over here..*L*
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Hi girls! My hair is almost gone. I just have stuble. Im gonna let it hang on until itwants to go. I just dont want razor stuble on my head and legs. Speaking of legs, still gotta shave them, grrr. Im finding my stuble all avet the place, lol. Im like come on I cant have that much left to find.
Im having the same hip isssues with Neulasta as I sis the last time. Its in my hips. Today though I did feel like I was given a huge hurts doughit in the arm a few times. Weird new pain. I see the Onc Fri so I will see.
Take care my sisters!
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Hey Emily!! Yeah....I think the asparagus has taken on a life of its own!! Passing to you friend!!
thank you for the info!! Ugh...I may go back to work on the 11th...
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Fuzzy..yes that is a hilarious thread. Feels good to laugh and "escape" the serious stuff once in awhile. We all need a good dose of laughter..and asparagus !!
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Hey Ladies,
Glad to hear everyone doing ok tonight, getting ready for tomorrow #3.
My wig is not itchy now that my head has calmed down with the shedding. I have a monofilment type, just feels like I am always wearing a hat. I am not using the tape too afraid or skin reacting to it...however it was so windy when i left my office i thought it was going to blow off and I would be chasing my hair over the parking lot...just held the top of my head until i managed to get into the car. have to admit the image had me laughing, the other day it was pouring so i channelled Jackie Kennedy and tied a scarf over the wig. I don't think I have thought this much about hair in my life
fuzzy lemon, check if the doctor has any suggestions to make this round less rough on you.
SpecialK have to agree we have to choose laugh whenever possible.it makes it better.
Melanie love the hair, you look fabulous.
Lisa, it does feel better when you control the situation, you look beautiful.
neyney sorry about house arrest again, i love daffodils, think it will be a while before mine peak up.
dragon fly, i think googling is a good idea, i think machine sewing to tape to make something for under hats may have possibilities.
nite all, have to pack my chemo bag for tomorrow.
Jean -
I found myself addicted to it....uh oh...is that a cure or a cause!! LOL! I have NEVER laughed so hard, for so long! Maybe we should take it on the road?
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JeanH - good luck tomorrow, will be thinking of you. After that you only have 1 more, right? If so, yay! Your hair blowing accross the parking lot visual cracked me up! I know what you mean about the thinking so much about hair - I am doing the same as well as controlling the one prosthetic I have and keeping it in its proper location, let alone keeping it in my bra!
NeyNey - the lady next to me at my first tx insisted on showing me the stretchy net thing on her head under her wig. You can buy them online on the wig sites. I guess it kind of grips the wig? I also just saw tonight they have some kind of glue stuff. I refuse to glue the hair to my head - I'm taking a stand!
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Charlottesmama..I am imagining the next person that goes to try on that hat in the store and finds it full of hair stubble..I can just picture their expression..*L* And Jean... what an experience that would be, chasing after your hair across the parking lot...*L*
Sometimes the absurdities of what we have to go through is so funny. When my hair really started falling out I remember laughing so hard when I was in the shower and and all this loose wet hair got PLASTERED to my entire face and I could hardly get it off. What an experience.
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