I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Just got home and LMAO going through this thread.  There is no way to secure the US/Canadian border...truly.  I live here.  We go out in the boat, US citizens, Canadian citizens we go swimming in the same places.  If a few people got off of one boat, swam for awhile and got onto another boat nobody would notice.  The Border Patrol here patrols in cars, they do have one boat but I never see it out.  I see the cars all the time though.  During the summer they have these inspections where they'll put a road block on one of the roads and then check all the cars going that way.  Everybody in town that gets stopped comes into town, tells everybody else that they're checking such and such road today and everybody goes out another road.

I imagine the vast land border would be even more challenging.

My ancestors were here pre-Revolutionary War, some of them Native Americans but we have adopted the Canadian eh?  And we have Tim Horton's!  Oh and just to top off the laughs - one of my friends did give birth in a Canadian department store.  Her son had dual citizenship until he reached adulthood, at which point he had to choose.

From what I can see here somebody said something and I think that I've figured out I'm just another uneducated, poser, slacker liberal but I won't buy into the "stop Canada" meme going on here.  I say, "Come on down!  Or come on up as is sometimes the case around here!  Come infiltrate our shopping malls and infest us with your good manners and politeness."

Oh and Medigal, don't argue with the Border agents at crossings.  I've seen cars taken apart, and then it's like a great big jigsaw puzzle that you get to put back together all on your own. 

Edited to add slacker. 

RiverRat:  If I had been a bad person, why would I have wanted him to check my documents.  You see I had read in one of my travel books about all these things people should have ready to show the border patrol to prove who you really are and I was just trying to do "my" duty.  "He" was lax in his and that is how the argument started.  I told him I had gone to a lot of trouble to get documents together and the least he could do was "look" at them.   He told me he would only because I was being so insistent but it really wasn't necessary.  I was very happy after he did his job and then had to hassle DP who had turned white in fear of what I "might" have caused.  I had nothing to hide in our car any way!  He really was a very nice guy just needs to do his job better, imo so the bad guys don't get into Canada.  DP still picks at me about that incident but I am a tickler for following rules and obeying rules. 

Medigal, I was just teasing you.  But border crossing agents are on my short list of people I don't mess with at all.  And the sad truth is that there are economic pressures to not check everyone's complete documents, there's just too much traffic and too much of the economy counting on keeping that traffic moving. 

Oh my word, I forgot about the Speedo clad Mounties.  I have heard of them but have never personally met one of those who were "turned" by their evil plot.

Edited to add my admiration of the Speedo clad Mounties. 

annettek, I love Canada too. When friends or family come to visit we usually make a quick run over to Windsor. Our Australian friends loved getting another country stamp in their passports and my southern relatives love getting to go to a foreign country, but get upset when I tell them they have to leave their guns at home or we're not going.

In addition to Windsor I've been to Amherstburg, London, Chatham, Stratford, Niagara Falls and Toronto (several times, love that city). I really want to go to Montreal.

Edited to add:  oh darn we can't take the southern relatives anymore.  They don't have passports.

Second edit to add: Bois Blanc Island, better known as Bob-Lo Island and Canadian sections of the river and lake.

Canadian accents . . . a while back there was a tourism commercial (can't remember if it was for the province of Ontario or the city of Toronto) that featured gorgeous scenes of Toronto's lakefront and a couple of commentators talking about being "ooot and abooot on the booot, eh."

I loved that commercial.

U.S.-Canada border crossings . . . I've had some run-in's with very cranky immigration personnel, always on the U.S. side, sorry to say.  Once I was interrogated about the number of beanie babies my daughter had brought with her (I *told* her not to bring so many!). 

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Ok so I have been working on some ideas concerning our "BorderBooths" (like toll booths or maybe mine will be like a "troll booth")....

First of all the ladies on the Southern Border.........we don't need gov't issue firearm....we are already packing....I would feel much better using my own ammo as well......

Now for us down here our BorderBooths are going to have to be air condition......I want only fossil fuel cooling my booth.....

Now for us down here CA is going to be a problem with Gov. MoonBeam in place....more then likely ladies you are going to have to have your BorderBooths a/c done by "green energy".....(good luck with that).....also I doubt that Governor Moon is going to allow ya'll to have any firearms....(just a feeling I get).....so we are going to have to figure out a different way to discourage the illegals from coming in.....I would suggest that we make a giant State Park right on the border and completely fill it with flowers, gardens, grass.......and as the illegals cross over they will stop to do landscaping and maybe ya'll can just have giant nets and drop it on them and then send them back over the border........

Ok of course us along AZ, NM and TX will just control our borders the good old fashion way....with a sawed off shotgun and a bottle of whiskey.....and a/c......

Ok now our ladies on the Northern Border..........

Now believe me I am not in favor of giving a bunch of liberal grannies guns well because I don't think any of you would have a clue on how to use one and would just end up shooting yourself in the foot.....so I have a really good idea.....why don't we put you ladies in a George W. Bush mask and that would send any Canadian or any other illegal running and screaming right back into Canada......

Now as far as your heating situation goes sorry but you guys are liberals and you must live by the liberal rules.......all heating will be done with green energy......solar panels.....awhhhhh not enough sunshine.....will then we will move to the windmill turbines.....(I know they make a horrible sound but we will supply you with ear plugs.....that way you won't have to listen to the Canadians screaming as they look at you).....uh oh......no wind.....well then that means we are down to Batteries......I mean batteries do very well in cold weather so you guys don't need to worry about it......

there will be Border Control Uniforms but they can't make us look fat.....so still working on that.....

the pay will be good but none of this gov't pay scale crap.....we are paid on commission.....the more illegals we send home the more money we make........the sky is the limit......shokk

Well I can't comment on the southern border but I will tell you a lot of liberal grannies can shoot straight. They just feel a gun is an accessory they can do without. And the sun does shine up north. People do use solar panels. And northern women are secure enough in their body image that they will wear bulky clothes if they keep them warm in the winter.

Go Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dontcha just hate it when this happens?  I could post some "beheadings" but I'm sure it be deleted because the images are very disturbing. 

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/mexican-drug-cartels-hold-12-year-old-ransom-new-mexico  

Mexican drug cartels hold 12-year-old for ransom - in New Mexico  

 Thugs working for Mexican drug cartels kidnapped the 12-year-old daughter of a ranch foreman in New Mexico, holding the girl for ransom until her family and neighbors came up with $80,000 for her release. They didn't dare call law enforcement for help because of very real fears their calls would be monitored by the kidnappers using sophisticated communications relay stations erected on U.S. public lands.

That was one of the most shocking stories four congressmen heard last week while visiting hot spots along the New Mexico, Arizona and Texas border, where specific American law enforcement officers are being targeted for assassination and high levels of violence, vandalism and threats against Americans are increasingly common. One rancher showed the lawmakers a photo she had taken on her property of a camo-clad drug runner brandishing an AK-47.

"The town hall meeting we held with ranchers in New Mexico was very lively," Rep. Ed Royce, R-Calif., told The Examiner. "The drug smugglers use scanners, cell phones, GPS systems and other equipment that is better than anything Border Patrol or the local deputy sheriffs have. We could actually see them watching our Border Patrol agents from points on high ground" in Mexico.

There were 900 attacks on Border Patrol agents last year, Royce said, and 91 assaults on Customs Agents in the Tucson sector alone. Narco traffickers have become so bold that they shot up a U.S. Customs station in the process of intercepting a big cocaine shipment.

Royce noted that a retired Mexican general who had been recruited to be the police chief in a border town was assassinated within a month. "This is an emergency situation. We need to take decisive action. The Mexican government is losing control, and is unable to keep the narco insurgents at bay."

To that end, the California Republican plans to introduce legislation to finish the 700-mile border fence - including double fencing in key areas - which is part of the House Republicans' "Pledge to America."

"Where the fence has been deployed, it's been enormously successful. Before the fence was built outside San Diego, drug cartels controlled the area. The fence was 95 percent effective against people smuggling weapons, and crime dropped 50 percent in both Tijuana and San Diego," Royce said.

The legislation would also give the Border Patrol operational control of the southern border, which it does not have now. 

"My bill will prohibit the Secretaries of Interior and Agriculture from interfering with Border Patrol activities on federal lands," Royce told us. "It will also allow state and local law enforcement to enforce all U.S. immigration laws, and require the Department of Homeland Security to review all visa applications at high-risk locations."

Driving down roads on federal lands 40 miles from the Arizona border, Royce and his House colleagues saw several Bureau of Land Management signs reading: "Danger: Public Warning, Travel Not Recommended, Active Drug & Human Smuggling Area, Armed Criminals and Vehicles Traveling at High Rates of Speed."

The area isn't even safe for Border Patrol agents. Brian Terry was shot and killed Dec. 15 on a Forest Service road in Peck Canyon, near Nogales, Arizona - known by locals as "Smugglers Paradise." Six suspects are being held on felony immigration charges in that case.

Royce, sponsor of the 2006 "Secure the Fence Act," added that neither the Bush administration nor the Obama administration is committed to completing the border fence. "We passed the bill just before the election and President Bush had to sign it. We had the authorization and the appropriations. We thought the job was done. But you also have to have the political will."

And elected officials who don't stick their heads in the sand hoping the drug cartels will just go away.

And we have fashion designers in Montreal that make warm winter coats that are trendy and slimming.

http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/sarah-palin-tells-us-i-never-bashed-christina-aguilera-2011102

not that i like her but...