.Lymph Node Study Shakes Pillar of Breast Cancer Care
cp418 posted this link under clinical trials but I thought it would be good to post here as well. The article explains very clearly the risk of LE with axillary node dissection, SNB and radiation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/health/research/09breast.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=general
By DENISE GRADY
Published: February 8, 2011
The discovery turns standard medical practice on its head. Surgeons have been removing lymph nodes from under the arms of breast cancer patients for 100 years, believing it would prolong women's lives by keeping the cancer from spreading or coming back.
Now, researchers report that for women who meet certain criteria - about 20 percent of patients, or 40,000 women a year in the United States - taking out cancerous nodes has no advantage. It does not change the treatment plan, improve survival or make the cancer less likely to recur. And it can cause complications like infection and lymphedema, a chronic swelling in the arm that ranges from mild to disabling.
Removing the cancerous lymph nodes proved unnecessary because the women in the study had chemotherapy and radiation, which probably wiped out any disease in the nodes, the researchers said. Those treatments are now standard for women with breast cancer in the lymph nodes, based on the realization that once the disease reaches the nodes, it has the potential to spread to vital organs and cannot be eliminated by surgery alone.
Experts say that the new findings, combined with similar ones from earlier studies, should change medical practice for many patients. Some centers have already acted on the new information. Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in Manhattan changed its practice in September, because doctors knew the study results before they were published. But more widespread change may take time, experts say, because the belief in removing nodes is so deeply ingrained.
"This is such a radical change in thought that it's been hard for many people to get their heads around it," said Dr. Monica Morrow, chief of the breast service at Sloan-Kettering and an author of the study, which is being published Wednesday in The Journal of the American Medical Association. The National Cancer Institute paid for the study.
Doctors and patients alike find it easy to accept more cancer treatment on the basis of a study, Dr. Morrow said, but get scared when the data favor less treatment.
The new findings are part of a trend to move away from radical surgery for breast cancer. Rates of mastectomy, removal of the whole breast, began declining in the 1980s after studies found that for many patients, survival rates after lumpectomy and radiation were just as good as those after mastectomy.
The trend reflects an evolving understanding of breast cancer. In decades past, there was a belief that surgery could "get it all" - eradicate the cancer before it could spread to organs and bones. But research has found that breast cancer can begin to spread early, even when tumors are small, leaving microscopic traces of the disease after surgery.
The modern approach is to cut out obvious tumors - because lumps big enough to detect may be too dense for drugs and radiation to destroy - and to use radiation and chemotherapy to wipe out microscopic disease in other places.
But doctors have continued to think that even microscopic disease in the lymph nodes should be cut out to improve the odds of survival. And until recently, they counted cancerous lymph nodes to gauge the severity of the disease and choose chemotherapy. But now the number is not so often used to determine drug treatment, doctors say. What matters more is whether the disease has reached any nodes at all. If any are positive, the disease could become deadly. Chemotherapy is recommended, and the drugs are the same, no matter how many nodes are involved.
The new results do not apply to all patients, only to women whose disease and treatment meet the criteria in the study.
The tumors were early, at clinical stage T1 or T2, meaning less than two inches across. Biopsies of one or two armpit nodes had found cancer, but the nodes were not enlarged enough to be felt during an exam, and the cancer had not spread anywhere else. The women had lumpectomies, and most also had radiation to the entire breast, and chemotherapy or hormone-blocking drugs, or both.
The study, at 115 medical centers, included 891 patients. Their median age was in the mid-50s, and they were followed for a median of 6.3 years.
After the initial node biopsy, the women were assigned at random to have 10 or more additional nodes removed, or to leave the nodes alone. In 27 percent of the women who had additional nodes removed, those nodes were cancerous. But over time, the two groups had no difference in survival: more than 90 percent survived at least five years. Recurrence rates in the armpit were also similar, less than 1 percent. If breast cancer is going to recur under the arm, it tends to do so early, so the follow-up period was long enough, the researchers said.
One potential weakness in the study is that there was not complete follow-up information on 166 women, about equal numbers from each group. The researchers said that did not affect the results. A statistician who was not part of the study said the missing information should have been discussed further, but probably did not have an important impact.
It is not known whether the findings also apply to women who do not have radiation and chemotherapy, or to those who have only part of the breast irradiated. Nor is it known whether the findings could be applied to other types of cancer.
The results mean that women like those in the study will still have to have at least one lymph node removed, to look for cancer and decide whether they will need more treatment. But taking out just one or a few nodes should be enough.
Dr. Armando E. Giuliano, the lead author of the study and the chief of surgical oncology at the John Wayne Cancer Institute at St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica, Calif., said: "It shouldn't come as a big surprise, but it will. It's hard for us as surgeons and medical oncologists and radiation oncologists to accept that you don't have to remove the nodes in the armpit."
Dr. Grant W. Carlson, a professor of surgery at the Winship Cancer Institute at Emory University, and the author of an editorial accompanying the study, said that by routinely taking out many nodes, "I have a feeling we've been doing a lot of harm."
Indeed, women in the study who had the nodes taken out were far more likely (70 percent versus 25 percent) to have complications like infections, abnormal sensations and fluid collecting in the armpit. They were also more likely to have lymphedema.
But Dr. Carlson said that some of his colleagues, even after hearing the new study results, still thought the nodes should be removed.
"The dogma is strong," he said. "It's a little frustrating."
Eventually, he said, genetic testing of breast tumors might be enough to determine the need for treatment, and eliminate the need for many node biopsies.
Two other breast surgeons not involved with the study said they would take it seriously.
Dr. Elisa R. Port, the chief of breast surgery at Mount Sinai Medical Center in Manhattan, said: "It's a big deal in the world of breast cancer. It's definitely practice-changing."
Dr. Alison Estabrook, the chief of the comprehensive breast center at St. Luke's-Roosevelt hospital in New York said surgeons had long been awaiting the results.
"In the past, surgeons thought our role was to get out all the cancer," Dr. Estabrook said. "Now he's saying we don't really have to do that."
But both Dr. Estabrook and Dr. Port said they would still have to make judgment calls during surgery and remove lymph nodes that looked or felt suspicious.
The new research grew out of efforts in the 1990s to minimize lymph node surgery in the armpit, called axillary dissection. Surgeons developed a technique called sentinel node biopsy, in which they injected a dye into the breast and then removed just one or a few nodes that the dye reached first, on the theory that if the tumor was spreading, cancer cells would show up in those nodes. If there was no cancer, no more nodes were taken. But if there were cancer cells, the surgeon would cut out more nodes.
Although the technique spared many women, many others with positive nodes still had extensive cutting in the armpit, and suffered from side effects.
"Women really dread the axillary dissection," Dr. Giuliano said. "They fear lymphedema. There's numbness, shoulder pain, and some have limitation of motion. There are a fair number of serious complications. Women know it."
After armpit surgery, 20 percent to 30 percent of women develop lymphedema, Dr. Port said, and radiation may increase the rate to 40 percent to 50 percent. Physical therapy can help, but there is no cure.
The complications - and the fact that there was no proof that removing the nodes prolonged survival - inspired Dr. Giuliano to compare women with and without axillary dissection. Some doctors objected. They were so sure cancerous nodes had to come out that they said the study was unethical and would endanger women.
"Some prominent institutions wouldn't even take part in it," Dr. Giuliano said, though he declined to name them. "They're very supportive now. We don't want to hurt their feelings. They've seen the light."
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Opps!!! Edited to add the rest of the article, the 2nd page was missing...
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want to bang head on wall when I read this.....I guess though nobody would have let me blow off chemo without the other nodes clear....and I never would have known I only had one positive node...but still the thought I might have been able to avoid this nightmare.
On the other hand now maybe it will be easier to get LE appointments??
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Oh cookie we are damned if we do and damned if we don't.
I am just thrilled to see LE listed as a SE and the risks spelled out clearly. Based on this study LE is not a RARE SE that hardly ever happens. Hopefully more doctors eyes will be opened to helping us get treatment and stop minimizing our fears or brushing us under the rug!
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i also saw this article and was about to post it when i saw that it was already here :-)
Interestingly, my surgeon refused to do an ALND after he did an SNB and it was positive (micromets), because he said that radiation would get anything that was left. He said the risk of LE and other complications wasn't worth it when he saw no benefit to ALND. I wasn't sure I believed him, but this article makes me feel a bit better.
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I'm trying to figure out if i would have been a candidate for avoiding ALND since my primary was 3 cm, and larger than those in this study. I think this study is great and may help women avoid LE in the future. No regrets that I had the full dissection, it was the gold standard at the time, and frankly I'm glad to know just how many of my nodes were positive and that the malignant ones were removed.
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I'm going to re-post some data from the study
Okay, I'm reading the article (Otter where are you??)
And, this study was done 1999-2004, then results were analyzed.
Here is eligibility criteria:
Adult women with histologically confirmed invasive breast carcinoma clinically 5 cm or less, no palpable adenopathy, and an SLN containing metastatic breast cancer documented by frozen section, touch preparation, or hematoxylin-eosin staining on permanent section were eligible for participation. Patients with metastases identified initially or solely with immunohistochemical staining were ineligible. Treatment with lumpectomy to negative margins (no tumor at ink) was required. Women were ineligible if they had 3 or more positive SLNs, matted nodes, or gross extranodal disease, or if they had received neoadjuvant hormonal therapy or chemotherapy.
Further comments in the article:
Surgical Morbidities
Paresthesias, shoulder pain, weakness, lymphedema, and axillary web syndrome are recognized morbidities of ALND.7,8,9 As previously reported,10 the rate of wound infections, axillary seromas, and paresthesias among patients in the Z0011 trial was higher for the ALND group than for the SLND-alone group (70% vs 25%, P < .001). Lymphedema in the ALND group was significantly more common by subjective report (P < .001) and also tended to be higher by objective assessment of arm circumference. These findings are in accordance with other randomized comparisons of SLND with vs without ALND.
From the conclusion:
Despite limitations of the Z0011 trial, its findings could have important implications for clinical practice. Examination of the regional nodes with SLND can identify hematoxylin-eosin–detected metastases that would indicate a higher risk for systemic disease and the need for systemic therapy to reduce that risk. Results from Z0011 indicate that women with a positive SLN and clinical T1-T2 tumors undergoing lumpectomy with radiation therapy followed by systemic therapy do not benefit from the addition of ALND in terms of local control, disease-free survival, or overall survival. The only additional information gained from ALND is the number of nodes containing metastases. This prognostic information is unlikely to change systemic therapy decisions and is obtained at the cost of a significant increase in morbidity.10 The only rationale for ALND in these patients would be if the finding of additional nodal metastases would result in changes in systemic therapy. Because current guidelines do not support differences in adjuvant systemic therapy based on the number of positive lymph nodes, except in some uncommon select subgroups,40 ALND does not appear to be warranted in this patient population.
Okay, I'm not Otter (a brillant analyst of medical literature), but what I see is:
1) Women had to have a limited number of positive nodes
2) Because IMRT wasn't in use during the time frame of the study, the radiation was tangential, which covers more of the axillary area
3) This sure does challenge some deeply entrenched assumptions.
As the onc I saw at Dana Farber told me, medical providers tend to be 1) early adopters--try something quickly, 2) medium adopters--wait until there is sufficient data to support a change in clinical practice and 3) late adopters--resistant to change (my boss STILL doesn't believe in the oncotype test....)
Kira
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Alittle late for us though
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Like MOTC says, we can't second-guess having an ALND as it was the standard of care at the time for most of us with 1 or more positive nodes. It is what it is, and thankfully time marches on and treatments get better. My b/c care is so much better than the "care" my mom got 30+ years ago (she got a Halstead, chemo with no Emend or Neulasta, etc. and died anyway after a couple of years). I'm sure that 30 years from now patients will look back at us and marvel at how crude our treatments were. That's the way it goes.
My first thought was the same as Michelle's - I loved that this study acknowledges and basically takes as common knowledge that LE is NOT a rare side effect of node removal. As she says, hopefully this will help the medical community take us more seriously.
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You know, they did this study 1999-2004 and waited 5 more years to follow women, and half of the women in the study still got the ALND.
It sucks to be the last person to get a proceed deemed obsolete. It really does.
But no one, except those who knew about the results of this study, knew. We and our providers didn't know. And there will be some who still don't change their practice until this is in national guidelines.
And I agree with everyone who posted that this study was done to see if they could reduce surgical morbidity--specifically lymphedema. So glad that motivated them to do the study.
So much has changed: no herceptin off clinical trials until 2006, no oncotype dx until around the same time.
Kira
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Yep, I was diagnosed in September 2004 and at that time the oncotype test was rare and you could only get herceptin through clinical trials. Its nice to live long enough to be able to look back like that (which makes me grateful for the treatments I had).
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During my BMX, my BS chose to stop at the SNB, even though one SN was positive. She put in her notes that because of my small and misshapen build, it was just too risky to dig for more nodes, having seen so much LE in her practice. This alarmed my onc--she said it wasn't "the standard of care"--to stop at the SNB, so, not knowing if there were more positive nodes, my onc. gave me AC. It worked out, though, because any taxanes would have REALLY done a number on my pre-existing foot neuropathy. I guess it worked out, but I still wonder about possible positive nodes avoiding destruction, even by the "red devil." It's incredible how much faith we have to put in our physician's decisions when we're sedated on the table!
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Hi ladies,
Even though this research is too late to benefit any of us, I'm glad to see it and am so encouraged that so many new and better treatments are being found every day.
I had BM a little over three years ago, a positive SNB, and then of course ALND - which found 5 more cancerous nodes. In my case I would have received chemo anyway based on just the positive SNB, but "normally" I wouldn't have had rads after a mastectomy. Rads was only added because I had more than 4 positive nodes. This study only looked at people with lumpectomy, so it doesn't change anything for those who choose mastectomy. I guess we must be considered one of those "uncommon select subgroups" mentioned in the study's conclusion above. Last time I checked, though, mastectomy wasn't that uncommon.
Best to all of you,
Angela
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