2011 Running Thread
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So glad I found this thread!
Goldlining- I will be there cheering you on at thie finish! I ran the last two princess 1/2 marathons, but this year I will be cheering on friends. I still have 2 chemo treatment left and am just not ready.
I am running the Lady Track Shack 5k this coming Saturday and am very excited. I won't be breaking any records, just excited to be out there!
Does anyone else have family/friends/co-workers who think they are crazy for wanting to run during chemo? They are all supportive (especially hubby), but I think they would rather wrap me up and protect me. Too bad I am too stuborn for that!
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Thanks Charley -- I was more worried about skin irritation, along the lines of "don't wear underwire on the numb skin". My incision goes right to the midline and for the most part is a bit higher than the old (30+ yrs) and well-healed scar from my reduction that actually IS on the bra-line, except in the middle where I'm not sure where the monitor "module" would sit.
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You made me envious Lisag32803 -- I am actually in Orlando on race day but the run is just a bit too far from where I will be and I fly home mid day. I love destination runs, even 5K, because it's sightseeing.
I'm fortunate not to have chemo with DCIS and husband encourages the activity because running heals him too, but some of my coworkers seem to think "well, if she's running, how serious could this have been anyway? maybe she's just been taking advantage". It makes sense to me: with running I control the timing, intensity and duration and it helps me feel better. I'm doing self-paced work too, and have been since the day of both surgeries, but I think some coworkers are fixated on certain work activities that I am not doing, things that demand high physical and cognitive concentration, on a timetabled schedule and duration, and where my performance affects the success of others. I think some people would understand an "all or nothing" recovery better.
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I use a heart rate monitor when I spin (indoor cycling). I had a unilateral mastectomy, no reconstruction. I used the monitor before and after the mastectomy. I have no issues with it.
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Hey, goldlining, hey lisag, hey JanS - so glad you found this thread. Goldlining, I loved your post about the ways running was entwined with your whole breast cancer experience. I could really relate to it. In the week between my routine mammo and the call-back, I went on a business trip to New Orleans and on the spur of the moment, entered an old and historic (and very fun) race there -- the Jackson Day 9K. I ran decently (top master, woo hoo!), came back home, and the next day -- kaboom. (The "kaboom" is only in retrospect . . . I was actually pretty nonchalant about the call-back.) I ran all through treatment, and still run, but there's a definite "before" and "after" in my running, and in my mind that Jackson Day race is my last "before" run.
Didn't think I was going to be able to run today because of the weather, but they did a great job clearing the roads and I managed 4 only somewhat snowy miles.
L
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I'm not a runner, but I do work out with weights and I go spinning regularly. I had a unilateral mastectomy in July. I have been using a fiber-fill prosthetic and just tucking it into a compression bra when I work out. It's not terrible, but not great either. I'm self-conscious that it's lumpy looking, so now I'm on a quest for another solution. Any ideas from the runners out there?
Lewing, you ran on this crazy snow day?? You are dedicated!!
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For running, I have a Lululemon "The bust stops here" sports bra (just an awesome bra, the only one I've found that would immobilize the other side and comes in pretty colours) and I use a "been-a-boob" beanie in the mastectomy side. It is light but a more natural weight than the fluffy fibre one, squashes into a shape resembling the other side, and is covered in what seems to be microfibre jersey similar to the cloth I use for a sweaty-brow towel so it's reasonably comfy. They make different sizes; the fitter helped me choose which one at the same appointment as when I got my rubber-chicken Amoena foob.
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LOL at the "rubber-chicken" foob!
L
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I love this thread. Started really exercising (waling) right before bc diag. After surgery and before rads started running more and walking less. Keep that up until week 4 of rads and it kicked my butt and could nonly walk. I am 1 1/2 weeks post rads and running is till very hard but I am keeping at it. I have a friend who does 1/2 marathons and she wants us to run a 5K together so that is my goal. Not sure when it will happen. I really need this rads fatigue to go away. I really notice it the most when I try to run. But I will eventually get there, not giving up.
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Give yourself some time Sherry! You will get there. Make it a goal for a spring/early summer 5k. You are only 1 1/2 weeks out. It will get better every day. Hang in there!
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Thanks Charley, I am not giving up.
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Goldlining, I had a December mastectomy, too! I thought I saw you on that thread! How cool that you did both Disney Halfs. So great that you're going back for the Princess at the end of
Feb. I'm looking for a race to do right after I enter my new age group March 2. The first weekend after, there's a local NYC St Pat's themed 5K, and the same weekend, my SIL is doing her first HM in Fla. I'm toying with the idea of joining her, but I have no idea how I'll be feeling 1/3 through my weekly Taxol + Herceptin treatments.MOTC, is that you from the RWOL forum? (I'm SeRUNdipity over there.)
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Hi citykitty - yes I'm approaching 7 weeks out now. I registered for the Princess the day I got home from the Disneyland (5 weeks before my lumpectomy) because I did not want it to sell out without me while I waited to see whether I'd feel up to it. The fixed target gave me a focus outside myself and I needed a positive physical thing on the horizon beyond all these appointments, like when you run uphill, looking at the trees, not the sidewalk. When we finally got the various doctors in to review the lumpectomy pathology, they were all "you can do this or you can do that" and I pressed them to hurry up and book my mastectomy in December because I don't need more time to think, but I do need more time to train before the run! I have no rational basis to believe I'm in shape for it yet. I've only run/walked up to 60 minutes so far, but I just believe the medal wants me to take it home!
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Hey everyone I am so glad that I found this thread.
Before my bc diagnosis I really did not take the time to do anything for myself and had gained a lot of wieght, always intending to start working out and wanting to run but never really made myself do it. While in the hospital following my first chemo treatment the nurses on the oncology floor got me to start walking the halls, started really slowly at first could make it down the long hall and back once,(because of the serious of the infection that I had and how ill I had gotten) By the end of my stay I was walking very briskly up and down the halls. Following my second chemo, and second trip to the hospital once I felt better the nurses would joke that I was running up and down the hallway. I then tried to do intervals but found that having not run for such a long time it really took to much out of so I instead began walking 4-6 miles every day that I felt up to it. Always had to talk about a week off inbetween because of chemo. (not that any buddies body like chemo but mine really hated it)
In August I started doing intervals again working up to running milage. I cant say that I run very fast yet but am improving my speed slowly but surely, and my long run milage increases each Saturday.
I will be running a 1/2 marathon at the end of April and before that I intend to run a 5k and a 10k to get ready for the half.
Thriceblessed - where are you going to run your half marathon at in the end of April. I will be running in Nashville TN.
Those of you who are running during chemo you are also my inspiration, so when I feel like stopping in the middle of my run I will think of you.
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Beetle25, *you're* an inspiration. Seriously, what a great story. I hope you'll keep us posted and let us cheer you on.
L
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goldlining, thanks for the tip about lululemon and been-a-boob. I really appreciate it and will check them out.
Another comment about heart rate monitor: the chest band should sit well under your mastectomy scar. The monitor part should sit at the center of your chest (between breasts if you had 2 of them, and just below). Since the monitor needs to be against skin, I tuck mine under the elastic band of my sports bra.
Good luck with the Princess run.
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Thanks Lewing and I could use all the cheering on I can get. This weather is really putting a damper in my running, I dont mind running in the snow its the ice that is below the snow that bothers me and we just got another 4 inches this morning. Guess I will have to find an alterantive workout today and hope that the snow is melted by tomorrow afternoon so I can run outside again.
Hope you all have a wonderful day and for those who can run today, have a great run
beetle
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Goldlining, keep it up! I think it's great that you have a goal to work toward, and no matter how you finish, it will be such a great feeling of accomplishment.
Sherry, I'm impressed that you're getting out there despite the fatigue from rads. It is tough to get moving when your body is exhausted. Like Charley said, it does get better, and probably even quicker if you're keeping up with the exercise.
Lisa, how did it go with the 5k today? Congrats on getting out there during chemo! And don't worry about what everyone else says, do you makes YOU feel strong. I know your family and friends want to "protect" you - maybe if you tell them what positive effects running has on you, they'll understand.
Lewing, from a very beginning runner here, your dedication is so motivating! I haven't gotten out there in two days, because it's been COLD down here in TX - I'm not used to the biting wind in my face, and don't last very long! But, reading about your going four miles in the snow is motivating me - I'm gonna go out there today. I know that the cold probably doesn't faze you so much living in Michigan, but let me tell you, temps in the 20's are unheard of down here! But today it's in the 40's so I'm gonna get warm and get out there!
Beetle, I also had a very difficult time during chemo, being hospitalized after 3 of my 6 chemo treatments for febrile neutropenia. It's great that you decided to take back control and build yourself back up. Keep up the good work!
I've only just begun running again in the last month, and every time I get out there, I feel so much better inside, because I know I'm doing this for me and me alone. The next month and a half will be a little bit of a challenge for me, finding time to keep up my new schedule of exercise. I normally go out after taking my kids to school, but I've got an internship that starts at 7:30 in the morning, and I'll have to get up much earlier and go out when it's colder. Boy, is it hard to get out of my nice cozy bed! I've just got to keep in mind how proud I am of myself when I do get out there and get moving. Seeing you ladies in this thread really does make a difference, so thanks to all of you for that!
I'm off now for my four miles! Today's the day I increase my run to 2 minutes and decrease my walk to 4 minutes per cycle. It's funny how every time I get to the running part, I always seem to be on an uphill portion of my course...
Wish me luck!
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beetle you are an inspiration. I have not been sleeping well. Am in the process of switching MO's and have started having anxiety as to whether I received proper medical advise regarding not having chemo. My appt is Feb 15th and will feel so much better after I see this new one and get his opion on everything. With that said not sleeping and fatigue from rads is killing me. I am getting ready to take a nap then I will see how far I can run and walk the rest of my trail. Our weather if finally pretty outside so I am going to take advantage of it.
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Hey beetle25, your progress is awesome. Keep up the focus. Loved the positive vibes from the nurses. I hate people saying "don't push yourself". If I feel like pushing, I want to push!
Lisag - how was the Lady Track Shack run? The rest of the continent is socked with this cold icy crap, and Orlando was beautiful this morning. I savoured the delay of my departing flight as an extra 60 minutes of looking at bare ground and palm trees.
txstardust - I heard the running-uphill part is supposed to repay you in speed dividends later. That's what I mutter to myself anyway. If it turns out to be false, I shall be looking for a refund on all those hills.
JanS, thanks for the tips on the monitor. I love the tech toys so I wonder how many days before I get one!
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goldlining: I know what you mean abou people saying "dont push yourself" I know that they mean well, but you are right if I want to push I will because sometimes, expecially while going through chemo it was the only thing I felt like I had control of. So I just kept pushing, my onco also told me to keep it up, he never told me I was doing to much.
It sounds good to me that running-uphill is supposed to repay with speed. I really hope that it does because the hills all round Lebanon are a pain, it feels like I am always going uphill with very little downhill happening
Sherry you wil get there, and sooner than you think. They always told me that working out would help with the fatigue, yet working out always made me feel more fatigued, however, looking back it really does help so keep up the work, you will make it and be running that 5K in no time.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day and some great runs and workouts this week. If you dont mind I am going to bring you all with me on my long runs on the weekends, had a difficult time running my long run on Sunday and thought about all of you and just kept plugging along. Wasnt a good run but at least I finished the 7.2 miles.
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Yeah BC runners. So far I've committed to 2 half marathons this year. LaJolla half in April and Santa Barbara Wine country in May. My training has not been very steady so I anticipate more of a walk/run approach. Last year during radiation I completed the Nike Womens half in San Francisco and had such a great time I immediately signed up for 2 more. Many years ago I called myself a runner but the last 10 years or so I am more of a fast walker. I walked the 2010 San Diego 3 day for the cure which was one of the best experiences of my life. I'm already signed up for the 2011.
As for running bras I am a big fan of Moving Comfort Fiona.
Has anyone experienced neuropathy in your feet due to Taxol? Have you found anything to improve the condition?
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Hi, nkrun. I'm trying to decide which of those halfs sounds more amazing - I've been to La Jolla, and it's gorgeous, but hmmmm . . . wine country might be awfully nice as well. And congrats on finishing the Nike Women's Half, during rads, no less. Wow!
I wish I could help with advice on the neuropathy. Is this a lingering Taxol SE for you? Is it painful, or mainly numb? I had Taxotere, which came with plenty of its own baggage, but I never developed neuropathy. Maybe by bumping this thread, we can find someone who's been there and can weigh in.
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Is anyone running in the Lance Armstrong Live STrong marathon in austin Texas tomorrow. I am not but one of my best girlfriends will be there. Just currious.
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No snow, no ice, no wind, no bitter cold: no excuse not to get in a long run this morning! So I did . . . 11 miles. I know that's an odd distance, and could be interpreted as bailing on a 12 miler. I prefer to think of it as 10 with a bonus mile thrown in. I held a 9:10-9:15 pace, which I kidded myself was easy. And it was: for the first 8-9 miles, which of course means it wasn't really an easy pace for me. That's always been my biggest training mistake, doing my easy runs too hard (and my hard runs, not hard enough).
Sherryc, good luck to your friend who's running in Austin!
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I have been doing an hour at a time -- a wonderful run winding through the French Quarter of New Orleans on a trip last week, and a miserable profanity-laced butt-kicking hour on the treadmill at the Y near home. My pace has been ranging between 7 and 9 mins/km (11.2-14.4 min/mi) depending on how tired I am (physically and mentally). Not great except my pre-BC/surgery pace was only about 6 min/km and the mast was just 2 months ago and I've only had a month of getting on the treadmill or out on the road once or twice a week.
I'm packing for travel in the morning to the PRINCESS half next Sunday, and am SO excited. Of course I'm "tapering" now :-D but I am sure to be out for some 2-5K light runs to enjoy the heat wave. If I beat three hours I will be stunned but I know I will be smiling ear to ear 90% of the way. I'll be winning it in my mind. You'll all be with me, too! (Though I think you'll be those people off in the distance ahead of me...!)
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Nope we'll be right there with you goldlining!
Good luck!
Charley
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Go, Goldlining! I'll be thinking of you on Sunday. Good luck, and bring us back some great race stories!
Linda
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Hey everyone -- I just *dreamed* of beating 3 hours, since I had run maybe a dozen times since Labour Day, with the lumpectomy and mastectomy really cutting into my training. My previous times were 2:43 and 2:50 (the latter with compromised training due to physio) and after all I'm 50+. I walked in places but the voice in the head kept saying try to make 3:00. I kept doing the math, watching how many minutes since the last marker (since the clocks show gun time, not the time for your own starting corral).
Well, I did 2:58:06. I cried a bit, and it still chokes me up to think of how tough I had to be to do it. Darn it, I am.
The weather was perfect and everything ran really smoothly at the event itself. I can't say enough about how encouraging the cast members and volunteers are on the sidelines at these events and the festive atmosphere that the fellow participants create with their costumes. The tall male participant in a full Cinderella costume, including wig, dropping to do pushups for the green army man character about mile 10 was a pretty good example. It's hard, but it's happy.
I've had my cold soaking bath and my Tylenol and may go have some refreshments with my princess tiara and shiny medal on. (Pale green ribbon this year, probably Princess Tiana's colour. Medal is still a large tiara, this time with pale green gem.)
Happy running!
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Congratulations Goldlining! You are an inspiration to all survivors!
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