I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

But you didn't direct your attitude toward a specific poster, you painted all Americans with a broad uncaring brush. 

And your post followed 4 other nasty, snarky comments from other Canadians.  Just a bit much.

It seemed to me it was another poster was implying it was the great American Way (but not using that particular phrase).  Pip was just rephrasing what was said.  And it also seems that all comments, including mine, were directed to a particular post.

I'm having leftover pineapple and green pepper pizza.  And chocolate chip cookies.

As I drink my green tea (blueberry) and munch on my dark chocolate (77%) I am wondering if people are really as "confused" about "certain things" as they try so hard to appear to be.  Just pondering....

The community hospital I went to outside Boston posted a sign that they were just required by law to stabilize you - i.e., can walk out the door without dropping dead in the parking lot.  That's it.  I've mentioned before how my bf had a heart attack, was stabilized and then had to leave -- he didn't have insurance and he wasn't going to go into outrageous debt to get the bypass he needed.

Edit to add:  maybe he wasn't poor enough to be considered a charity case?  I don't know.  Some financially lower middle class people just slip through the cracks.

There are Americans on this thread who think that taking someone's need for health care and turning it into a business is appalling.

And yes there is the John Kerry stories........someone always knows someone who had an aunt or sister or friend that was refused treatment at some hospital and died.........

Always some story about a sign or some woman in labor and couldn't get help at the local county hosiptal or was refused at the Inn and had to have their child in a Stable......

But no one seems to every have their own personal spouse that was refused or they themselves were refused.........

shokk

And I am sorry konakat but really is no way for you to know that for sure.......I know you believe it but that doesn't make it true...........shokk

Why not?  I saw it with my own eyes!!!  I know he doesn't have insurance -- we'd been together for about 2 years so I do know a wee bit about him. I saw the unbandaged stent thing in his groin.  He never got his bypass.  And you've got a lot of f*ckin nerve to say otherwise.

I have never insulted my Canadian sisters. I am interested in your experiences as they compare to mine. I also love my country, flaws and all, but I am not sitting idly by letting the dopes in Congress destroy the country. I write letters...boy do I write letters. And I call. I am on a first name basis with most staffers in my senators and reps offices. And I vote. And they know it. Plus I make lots of noise (politely) at various town halls and rallies...and they know that, too.

My brother had a heart attack 2 years ago and went to St Anthony's Hospital in St Petersburg. They took him in, placed two stents in his heart, almost lost him on the table twice and kept him in hospital for 10 days. His cost - zero. We get care in this country, in my experience. To be sure, I have heard of people who could not get this or that treatment because they had no insurance but my personal experience is the opposite.

My other brother is schizophrenic and is on SSDI. He freaks out every couple years because meds need to be changed and there is no effective way to know when that is needed until they lose it. He was recently hospitalized (what we call Baker acted here in FL) and was in for 2 weeks until he was stabilized. No problem.

I guess what I am saying is I have two relatives with no insurance and SSDI and they are treated well.

Hugs to you KK. Just keep the vacation glow going as long as possible!

This was before the MA insurance system. He still doesn't have insurance -- it's cheaper for him to pay the penalty than to buy a personal plan.  Specifically, he can't afford a plan.

He had the stent to unblock the artery.  The IV for I don't know what (painkiller).  That's all they'd do for free for him.  They provided the legally required minimal treatment.  No bypass.

And, don't call my words suspect.  I am not a liar.