Taxotere is a nightmare

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  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited January 2011

    I would love the recipe Lago....

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011

    Iago - ME TOO!!  Those look delicious.  Nutritionally...I am a strong believer in balance, variety and moderation.  I mostly try to avoid packaged/processed foods as much as I can although lately it has been difficult while I've been sick - easier for the kids/DH to grab the quick meal options.  Oh well - this won't be forever!

    If you are going to start experimenting with whole wheat flour, you usually need to cut it half and half with white flour or your baking will be too hard and dry.  I have also had good success cutting it with oat flour which is a little heavy, but very sweet...it's excellent in brownies.  Have you ever tried the recipe for spinach/carrot brownies?  They are excellent.

  • Jojo66
    Jojo66 Member Posts: 24
    edited January 2011

    Hello,



    I have been following the posts for TC, I just finished up my treatments on Dec 2nd. I thought it was going to be worse than what I experienced, original treatment plan was to be ACT, but in the first treatment was allergic to adriamycin so o/c switched me to TC. I never lost all my hair, but now have lost most of my eyebrows and all but a few eyelashes weeks after my treatment ended. I do have neuropathy in my fingers and most annoying black and blue fingernails that are lifting off.



    Monday I had my breast exchange, doing ok. And yes! It's so much better with the TE's out and the implants in. Next adventure is a hysterectomy in about a month and Arimidex

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2011

    Had my taxotere yesterday.... Today I am high on Steroids....Sealed will keep you posted LOL

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011
    Tracie Sealed made me laugh. Enjoy the rush. Good time to get things done. Wink I never experienced the roid rush. Too bad I love being hyper but it rarely happens.
  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited January 2011

    I never got the rush everyone talks about either darn it!

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011
    I LOVE the steroid rush...I am actually looking forward to next week.  I get so much done...freaks my family out a little bit but it beats me being sick in bed or walking around like a zombie Wink
  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2011

    Only problem with the rush is your get jittery and crazy...I think I am going to have to take a Xanax to calm down... LOL

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011

    My onc gave me a prescription to calm me down but I didn't use it yet....I like the whole super-woman thing, lol.   I do have to make sure that I don't take 'roids to late in the day because I will be up all night.  I find though that my Neupogen shots kind of bring me down in the evenings too - not looking forward to them!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011
    I took the roids 2 hours before I went to sleep. Seems I slept better on them than off them Frown
  • Paula1231
    Paula1231 Member Posts: 456
    edited January 2011
    I do not get the steroid rush, but I do get the round face  :  (
  • LadyinBama
    LadyinBama Member Posts: 1,132
    edited January 2011

    I didn't get the roid rush either. All it gave me were more intense hot flashes and a red face. :(

  • tracie23
    tracie23 Member Posts: 598
    edited January 2011
    ladyinbama: I get the flaming red face as well along with the rush.... and yes the hot flashes are intense....Isn't chemo a blast... there is all ways something new to look forward to everyday Foot in mouth. Hey at least we have each other !!!!
  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011

    I don't get red but I look like I have a tan.  My daughter went on a cruise over my last chemo treatment and when she got back she was mad at my tan.....I told her I would MUCH rather get a tan the good old fashioned way!!

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited January 2011

    Marjie-  That is so funny... I went to get a boob fill up today for the first time since September and the nurse commented that I looked like I had an all over tan.  I never noticed.  My boobs could break bricks!  (c:

  • Paula1231
    Paula1231 Member Posts: 456
    edited January 2011
  • lrr4993
    lrr4993 Member Posts: 937
    edited January 2011

    Lago - OMG those oreo stuffed cookies look good.  Hardly fits in the anticancer diet!!!  LOL.  Why is all the good stuff bad for you?

    I never had steriod rush, but the red face was bad for me.  it was the worst the first time. I looked like I had a bad sunburn.  It seemed to gradually decrease with each treatment.  And it caused horrible night sweats. I really hate steriods.  I took them once before for a respiratory infection and swore I would never take them again. 

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited January 2011

    JOJO... you never lost all your hair?? How much did you lose? Did you then not shave it? Wear a wig? Just curious.

    I get the rush... my onc said next time he is putting me on less so I don't have as much withdrawal.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2011

    Wow - you were right Tracie - Taxotere certainly is a nightmare.  I had my first treatment on Monday - 6 days ago and on Wednesday afternoon felt like I'd been run over by a bus and it all went downhill from there.  I've spent the last three and a half days in bed, and lost over 10 pounds. 

    Feeling a bit more human today, but very tired, and still aching a bit.  My biggest problem was the diarroeha (where I lost all that weight I think) it also made me feel a bit queasy - not like I was going to throw up, but not great.  My nails are ok and I haven't had any tingling, but I feel like I'm 100 years old and now I think I look like I'm 70 (I'm 53).

    My private parts are stinging and feel like they are red raw - even passing urine was agony.

    Please tell me that this won't be so bad next time - I don't think I can do that again.

    Trish

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    Trisha talk to your docs about managing the SE. Immodium is supposed to help with the diarreha. Now you know when you get it you can start medicating before. I had the opposite problem… and I put on 10 lbs. I started taking the metamucil the day before. Never was as bad as my first tx.

    Sounds like you might have a UTI (urinary tract infection). Drink some cranberry juice and call your doctor. This needs to be treated. When you get an infection during chemo your body doesn't always take care of stuff like that without a little assistance from drugs etc.

  • Paula1231
    Paula1231 Member Posts: 456
    edited January 2011

    Hi Trish,

    I am so sorry you are having such bad SE's.  I agree with Lago, in that prevention is key in managing the taxotere.  On day three, I start the immodium and the aleve.  This will help enormously with the bone pain and the runs. 

    If you are getting neulasta or neupogen right after tx, clairitin and aleve will help with that bone pain as well.  Drink lots of fluids during the chemo and for several days after.  I found this diluted the urine and will help with the stinging and the raw feeling down below.  I keep baby wipes right by the toilet so I can wipe off all residues of the chemo.  Make absolutely sure you do not have a UTI, that could be very dangerous.

    Are you doing weekly or dose dense?  Above all take it easy on yourself and keep in mind, you will get thru this.  We will hold your virtual hand all the way. 

    Paula

  • sunflowerE152
    sunflowerE152 Member Posts: 83
    edited January 2011

    I now consider myself half way through having completed 2 of 4 TCs and am through the bad week.  I've done well and really appreciate all of the helpful hints on this board.  My 2nd treatment was easier than the first, because I drank more water, took Senekot, and I got half doses of the shots.

    I have a couple of weird things going on that I have not read much about.  My feet are sore and I actually have a blister on one of my toes.  I'm 54 and a teacher and have bad calluses and haven't had a pedicure in months because I'm afraid of the diseases that I might get with a lower immune system.  I've been putting lotion on them daily and babying them, but they hurt unless I wear tennis shoes - might have to wear jeans and tennis shoes to workL

    I've gotten a couple of bad white heads and one is actually on my lower eye lid.  I thought it was a sty at first.  Other than trying to keep my skin really clean, any recommendations?

    I feel for those of you that are experiencing bad allergic reactions.  My SEs seem trivial compared to yours and I feel very fortunate.

    Marcia

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    Yes I had the sore pads of my feet and the blisters. It's not unusual to get blisters. My onc mentioned that about the blisters but the had already resolved. She says she typically sends people to the podiatrist for blisters… they can get infected and we know infections are a bad thing for chemo patients. I stopped getting the blisters and sore feet after after the first 3 tx.

    So don't do what I did. I didn't think this was a big deal but it is. Tell your onc about it.

  • Trisha-Anne
    Trisha-Anne Member Posts: 2,112
    edited January 2011

    Thanks lago and Paula

    Today was worse than any all of the days put together so far.  I really wished I could die.  Feeling a bit better now and have spoken to the onc.  lago - he wondered about a UTI too - but the burning is on the outside of me not the inside - so we don't think it is a UTI.  DH is getting some cream to help with that - it's not just the urine that's burning my tender parts but the diaroeha too.  I'm drinking as much water as I possibly can, and that's helping.  The onc has said that apparently even though they weigh and measure your height to get the dosage right, sometimes it's just too much, so the next dose will be less.  I'm doing the three weekly doses, so hopefully it won't be as bad next time round.

    I've also had to start taking the anti nausea meds I had left over from FEC and that's helped with the upset tummy I had today.

    Took Immodium - it helped some, but not enough.

    Back to bed I go

    Trish

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited January 2011

    Trish,

    Do you use flushable wet wipes? 

    I discovered them with my kids, and now use them myself.  I find they are more soothing, less drying and harsh than regular TP, especially with diarrhea, hemorrhoids, and burning urine.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2011

    Oh yes I forgot about those flushable wipes. I used them after tx 1 when I got hemorrhoids.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011

    My chemo nurse told me right off the bat to get and use the flushable wipes.  I picked up a pkg of the Cottonelle ones from Costco.  I was really raw in my nether regions and had sores, not hemorrhoids, all around my anus (I know...TMI) during the FEC part of my chemo, the wipes definitely helped.

    My dosage for taxotere was reduced so I think I have managed to avoid the worst of the SE's.  I has a lot of pain after my first tx so they reduced it again and last tx was pretty doable. My onc told me though that I was to come straight to the cancer centre triage if I got diarrhea.

    Get lots of rest and stay positive Trisha-Anne!!

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited January 2011

    These SEs can be a pain in the ass!  It helped me to pour witch hazel with aloe on the wipes and also into a small spray bottle to "spritz" the area.  It was soothing.  Good luck.

  • marjie
    marjie Member Posts: 1,134
    edited January 2011

    Adey - Pain in the ass LITERALLY!! lol

    Witch Hazel is a good idea, never thought of that.

  • TonLee
    TonLee Member Posts: 2,626
    edited January 2011

    This would be a good time to have a baday.

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