Chemo June 2010
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Kitty - woo hoo to you for being done!
Chey - good to hear from you and also to hear that you are better.
What's this talk about tumor markers? My onc has not said anything about that to me. Is that something they check each time when they do your bloodwork? Or do you have to have a special test for that?
I am seeing my onc tomorrow. Much to talk about. My left arm has been very painful for about three weeks now - probably due to radiation. The swelling is not much, but it is very painful to touch and I have intermittent sharp pains throughout the day. Then there's the benign tumor on my spine that is very uncomfortable. I don't know what they can do about that. My main issue at the moment is sleep - or the lack thereof! I've tried sleeping in my bed on 3 or 4 occasions in the past month or so and every time I can only last about 3-4 hours. And I'm not sleeping during those 3-4 hours. My joint pain is much more intense when I try to sleep in the bed. We have a sleep number bed and I've adjusted it all over the place with no success. I've been sleeping in the recliner in our bedroom since the beginning of November and now can't seem to get comfortable in it either. If I'm going to go back to work this next week, I am going to need to get some sleep.
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JFV--congrats on your good news!
Sherry--Sorry you are not sleeping--lack of sleep can really mess a person up! I think Dmom mentioned melatonin, and I have heard that works well for some people. I use Ambien once in awhile, and it helps, but I still wake up sometimes in the middle of the night with it.
My onc does not run any blood tests on me for cancer, except a CEA test for colon cancer. He said they are too unreliable, and I think there are certain cases where they work better than others. Even the CEA is unreliable--for me it was normal even when I had a large tumor in my colon. But my onc will still check in once in a while--it might show if anything comes back.
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Hi Ladies, I have not been posting much but do read everyday and appreciate your postings. I get my port out tomorrow.
Dmom, my check ups have been only talking on the telehealth video conference with the onc. I have not had any bloodwork since last chemo in Sept. They say they don't check tumor markers any more.... I have a complete physical with my GP early March so we will see then where I am at. I have high blood pressure now that I didn't have before chemo.
Latte, hang in there. Rads does tend to go faster than chemo and will be over before you know it. Be kind to yourself.
Congrats to everyone who finnished or is near finnishing. It feels good to be done. The fatigue lingers and chemo brain still evident. I have delayed going back to work until Feb. 15, and that will be part time for the first six weeks. I'm not sure I'll be ready but feel pressure from the insurance company to return as soon as possible.
It is so cold and snowy here in Manitoba. The side of the driveway is so high you can not shovel any more snow up there! (not that I do the driveway clearing)
Love and Hugs to everyone, Mimi
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Hi- Sherry I seem to be in the minority as far as getting my tumor marker's checked. I don't know if it is just a thing doctors do around here, or if it because I am a high stage and grade of cancer.
Anyway, here is what I think I know about tumour marker tests. They are unreliable, the test can be affected by other non cancer problems. You have to watch them over time to see if they have any meaning for your cancer. The two tests I get watch the protein cancer cells give off when they die. My numbers were high normal when I was first diagnosed, and rose during chemo. The Onc told me the rise during chemo could be really bad and indicate metastasis or OK and indicate chemo is killing whatever cancer was still in my system and my liver was taking it's time cleaning the cells out. This conversation with my Onc was the first indication that maybe my Onc and I were not a good fit because I have been worried like crazy ever since. I have moved on to a new Onc who just double checked my tumor marker numbers and said they were fine. When all is said and done it is just a number that a doctor may use to track response, recurrence, or metastasis. All the reliable web sites say that even if it does rise a doctor needs to look at other info about your health to track progression. My guess is that if your Onc hasn't talked to you about them by now either they are fine or the Onc sees them as unreliable.
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JFV- Thanks for that great explanation about tumor markers. My Onc doesn't seem to believe they are valid data, so never checked. I have always wondered. Maybe now I should be glad I don't have more confusion! There doesn't seem to be medical consensus on this. I guess just another piece of the biiiiig BC puzzle.
Mimi- This is going to be a bumper crop for snow everywhere it seems. Even here in NYC they are still trying to dig out all the garbage bags from our first blizzard. Spring can't come soon enough for me! Stay safe in all that snow.
I am slowly compiling my vitamins and supplements that I think might help my body and immune system get and stay strong. There is lots of evidence about spices like turmeric and also green tea. Countries that use these have much lower cancer rates. Even integrative doctors from cancer centers like Anderson and Sloan are recommending them now. Can't hurt!
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DMom - great profile pic!!! You look fabulous!
I too have never had tumor marker tests done. My onc said that since I had a BMX and we had clear margins they I should not have any tumors to mark. But he also indicated that he did not feel they were the most reliable way to tell about mets. I am like JFV and I am a stage 3. He tells me that symptoms in combination with blood work results will tell us the most. Funny thing about the blood work was I had a complete physical with blood work done in Jan 2010. All my levels were beautiful. Diag of BC was March. Blood work was still the same. So....I am determined to go with the flow.
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Had my appointment with onc today and it went well. I'm still having issues with neuropathy in my toes and joint pain, but he says that will take time. Good news is I get my port out. Will call the surgeon tomorrow and get that scheduled. It took three nurses 30 minutes to access my port today for blood work. The crazy thing is tipped and is difficult to access. A month ago it took 2 nurses 15 minutes to access. It's about time it comes out.
We talked about hormone therapy and I got a prescription for Arimidex (sp?). So, I guess I'm ready to hear any horror stories about this drug! It seems like I came to the end of my tx so quickly that I haven't done any research about the hormone drugs.
I wore my own hair in public today for the first time. Everyone was complimentary though I suspect some were just being nice. My husband says it looks good and surprisingly, my onc even made a couple of comments about how he liked it. So, I feel better about wearing it when I go back to work on WEDNESDAY! ! YAY! Just have to take care of some paperwork with the district tomorrow and then I'll start back on Wednesday. I am so ready. Probably only work about 5-6 hours this week and then go full time next week. I feel like I'm 90% back to normal healthwise.
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Sherry, congratulations! Feels good doesn't it? I am going to encourage you to take a look at the board here and find the table of SE's for the drugs - Arimidex, Femera & Amarosin. It was really helpful for me. THere is also a specific topic on here for Arimidex. Check it out. I am on it as well and having some severe joint pain. Best advice I can offer is be sure to keep your Vit D levels up and do some sort of daily excercise. It seems critical. Great news on your hair! I am loving my new wavy stuff. Enjoy yours.
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Hi Sorry I post here so much ! The weather stinks and I spend alot of time on the computer and love to check in and see how everyone is doing. Then I come up with a question or comment I want to share. Hope you ladies don't mind !
Congrats on going "topless" Sherry !
Jackie did your hair just start to curl after being straight ? My hair is still very short but just developed these areas that stick out and won't lay down no matter how much water or conditioner I put on them. I am wondering if I am at the start of that curly hair everyone told me I would get after chemo ?
Dmom- I agree that not having known my tumor markers would have lowered my stress level. Particularly since my Onc couldn't say that it really showed a problem or not. I have a friend who did all her treatment at Sloan Kettering and they didn't do tumor markers.
Bon- Are you out there ?
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Oh, golly, I love you guys!
Yes, Joan, I am out here, reading your posts on my iPhone and unable to write from it. Don't know why that glitch exists, but it's frustrating. My DSL connection was on and off for weeks and then my computer went nuts. Erased all my printers one day and restored them the next. Kept doing that as though it was possessed. My computer guru spent 2 hrs and 38 minutes last night doing a remote log-in to fix the dang thing. Of course, 'dang' isn't the word I use for it but I can't post it like I speak it.
I am so wowwed by all the new photos! Joan and Carolyn look great with the new growth! I, too, am going 'au natural' and sporting my close-cropped grey 'do' all the time now. Love the convenience of it and may just keep it this way. I do look older but maybe it's about time. I am just glad to have hair back! But not on my legs...ugh! I never missed that and now it's baaaaaccck! Maybe one of these days I'll get the nerve to get a new photos taken of me as a 'grown up'.
And DMom (Karen) your pix is fab! Is that still your 'spare hair", as I liked to call my wig?
Hooray, Sherry is doing so much better, Chey is hanging in there, Ginny is keeping on keeping on and helping us to laugh with Julia tales, Kitty is amazing!. Tina is just a wonderful role model. And Latte, Toni, Mimi, Daniela, Pam, Julia...we're all doing fine! I'm just so proud of US!
I am in a funk because I've really been so sick for over 4 weeks with this bronchitis that I'm just tired of coughing! Enough already. And I sit here tonight without health insurance. My group was dropped by United Health Care because they aren't covering small groups in Florida anymore. Then Cigna denied our application because they, too, have pulled out of Florida for small groups. We are waiting for BCBS of Florida to give us the OK but since they have no plan number or codes or cards or anything...well, just know that I am freaking because I won't be able to have my herceptin tx that is scheduled for tomorrow. I keep telling myself not to worry because there really isn't anything I can do to control this. It's just such a mess. I didn't need this now. I have 6 months of herceptin to go and it's frightening to be hanging out here like this. Please keep your fingers crossed that this will resolve in the next few days and I can just shift the herceptin schedule by a week. I'll let you know when I know more.
OK, enough complaining! We are great and we deserve a round of applause! CLap, clap, clap, clap....and so on! Love to you all. Bon
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Bon! Hey girl! Always good to see you pop up! I am so very sorry about your insurance anxiety. I totally understand. I was just battling today about a referral that was not aproved. "It's always something". The photo is actually my real hair. As I did CMF, I was one of the extremely lucky ones that didn't lose all my hair. I will keep you in my prayers that your insurance works out. About that cough. There is an old wives trick that works like a dream. I used to use it with my son. Rub Vicks Vapo Rub on your feet and cover with socks before you go to sleep. I don't know why, but it works!
I read about someone who called the police because they heard shooting in the apartment next door. When the police arrived, they found a guy shooting his computer! I'll help bail you out if you need Bon!
JFV- I so totally understand the stinkin' weather. This raining, freezing. sleeting glop is the pits. I ended up walking miles out of my way today just to find places to cross that didn't have lakes of slush.
Sherry- You sound great! I am celebrating with you!
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Bon--It's always so good to hear from you. Don't worry about the Herceptin. You'll get back on track, and I'm sure you'll be safe. I sure hope you get your insurance problems worked out! Please keep in touch and let us know how you are doing.
Sherry--congrats on going back to work! You've come a long way lady!
I'm hoping to soon be going "topless" as well! It's not filling in around the face as much as it is on top--so I'll wait a bit longer, and hopefully it'll start growing better soon.
i've said it before and I'll say it again--you ALL are AMAZING!
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JFV - yes my hair just started showing some "wave" when it got about 1/2 inch long. By the time it got to an inch or so it was curly. However, I have a perfectly straight calick in the back. So I wave and straight. It is so funny because my hair was poker straight before. It is also a different texture now. Baby fine soft - used to be coarse. It's about and inch and a half long now. I actually have eyebrows and eye lashes coming in nicely too. I can almost see myself in the mirror. Almost!
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Hi ladies! I had my port removed yesterday - woo hoo!!! I had a vaginal ultrasound done today. Good thing is that they didn't give me any freaked out looks (like I got when they found my new tumors last year). I have an ovarian cyst and in the next few months will have it removed along with the rest of my female parts. My real name is Heather, so I have a joke that soon I can go by Heath (since I'm losing all female parts)! LOL!
I got some sad news yesterday and still processing it today. My friend from college is fighting colon cancer and it appears the cancer has won. She's in hospice care at her home. She's only 43 and is married with 2 young children. Not fair!!!
I hope everyone is having a good week. I love to pop in here, as you all lift my spirits! Oh, and I'm going to check out that Melatonin. Thanks for the tip!
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Hi everyone,
I'm just chugging along here through rads - past the halfway mark.
Bon, sorry to hear about your cough and your insurance - i hope it works out for you, and I wouldn't think that missing one heceptin while it gets sorted should be a problem.
Kitttycat - i had my port out a while ago and know how great that feels! I am going for my ultrasound tomorrow, and then my surgical consult - I want to have my ooph at the end of february.
to everyone who is talking about curly hair - my hair is about 3 cm (just over an inch) long, and full of gray (had no gray before chemo), and i have given up on hoping it will be curly - it is dead straight, and unless i plaster it to my head, it sticks out in every direction and i look like i've been electrocuted!
Anyone have recommendations for semi-natural hair dye that covers gray? DMom, I think you had a bad experience with one, can you please remind me of the brand?
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Latte, hang in there with the hair. Mine came in grey too. I looked just like Jamie Lee Curtis (only a lot heavier and with less money
) I used Revlon Colorsilk and had no problems. It doesn't have ammonia in it and it covered my grey well. On the rads, you are going to be amazed how fast the last half goes. We are routing for you! We will all happy dance when you are done.
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latte- Great to hear you are halfway through. I used a henna hair dye by Surya which was "guaranteed to cover gray". It did absolutely nothing...useless. So far, I am living with the gray, but there seems to be more and more every day. Let me know if you find something good.
Kitty- I'm so very sorry about your college friend. This d&^%$mn cancer seems to be everywhere! I just heard of another BCO sister who left us quite quickly. Her name was BoPeep and I seem to have just talked to her a couple months ago. It is all very, very scary. I feel like most of my energy is spent trying to stay positive and not be frightened.
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Dmom - one of my bc friends used the henna stuff and said it was terrible. I saw that Bopeep had passed away and just posted on here less than a week ago!!! She was triple negative, too. I'm trying to do things that are good for me, and you know it makes me feel better anyway!
Latte - congrats on getting through rads. It'll be done before you know it!
and I wish I had straight hair. Mine is super curly on top and sticks out on the sides. I look like a clown! There's a Hair Hair Hair thread under chemotherapy that has been very helpful to me!
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Sorry I haven't posted lately but I have been reading the posts on my ipad and it doesn't let me post from that. Cheers to all of you who have finished or are finishing up soon.
Today is my last day of rads - can't believe that I am finally over this hurdle. The rads doctor said my chest looks better than 99% of the patients that go thru this. My PS will be happy that the expander held up quite well - I don't even think there was much shrinkage, if any. I am flying out to Phoenix on Sunday to spend the next few months at our other home. Can't wait to get out of this CT cold and snow. Danbury CT has been right in the middle of the last few storms. I had 30 inches in my driveway last week.
I have an oncologist there who will give me my herceptin every 3 weeks. When I come back in May I will have the expander removed and the real fake boobie put in and then hopefuly finish herceptin in September. I also will be taking either Tamoxifan or Femora but since I have osteoporosis, I think it will be the tamoxifan.
My hair is all grey and even my eyebrows are impossible to see - I've been waiting for them forever and now I can't even see them....bummer. Same with my wispy little eyelashes. I'm just gonna give it time. I also go out without a wig - just use a hat when it is cold. People say I look like I just stepped out of the West Village. You NYC ladies will understand that.
Keep positive - I know it is hard sometimes. I'm going to try not to cry when I leave the rads office today. I have a tough time with transitions.
Hugs to you all.
Liz
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Liz- BIG congratulations on wrapping up your treatments. I know how you feel about leaving your Rads folks. I became quite close with everyone there too. Just know you will be followed by them and see them often in the future. Enjoy Arizona, oh do I envy you getting out of this mess.
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HOORAY LIZ !!!!!! a BIG WOOT FOR YOU !
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Congrats Liz!!
Enjoy your time in AZ!
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Bon- Hope you get your insurance fixed - what a drag. Can't wait til the new health insurance coverage kicks in for us pre-existing ladies. It will be one less thing to worry about. Latte - Some people have recommended Light Mountain organic hair dye; I got it at an organic food store but haven't tried it yet. Liz - Congrats on finishing rads! So excited that everyone in the June group seems to be doing pretty well. Feels like maybe the worst is behind us and we can concentrate on staying healthy..
I start Arimidex tomorrow - hope the SEs are not bad. I went "topless" on my vacation, but when I got back home today, I caught sight of myself in the mirror and gasped. I don't think I'm ready to ditch the wig yet.
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Oh how I wish I could post here from my iPhone. Be glad I can't because I'd be on this thread all the time.
First, Hooray for LIZ! So glad you're done with rads. And glad you can get out of the cold and see some sunshine in Arizona. Here in Florida, the sunshine is what keeps me going.
Latte, my cough is better but still gets me. It's worse when I talk a lot so it has succeeded in shutting me up for awhile. There are some people here who applaud that.
This has been a bad week. No, Toni, my insurance didn't get worked out and I had to miss the Herceptin on Wednesday. Still not squared away so today I will be calling the financial person for the oncology group to see about self pay for one Herceptin IV next week. The bills I see to insurance are almost $7000 per IV. I can afford to pay for one or go into hock for two, but no more. I won't mortgage my house or go further in debt because of this. It was my biggest fear that breast cancer would sink me spiritually, physically, emotionally and financially. And here I am, OK with the spiritual and emotional stuff, and recovering from the physical assault, but now facing more fianancial hardship because of it. Remember, I paid thousands and thousands in 2010 because neither my breast surgeon, nor the anesthesia group at the hospital were covered by my insurance. And in business, if I don't work I don't get paid so I have to keep humping to keep all those plates spinning. This insurance thing has me reeling.
Plus the 50-something wife of a colleague died on Monday from bc and my friend who works for us in the office on weekends was diagnosed Monday with both lobular and ductal cancer in the same breast. I went with her yesterday to the breast surgeon I used down south of here and he has her set for a bone scan, chest x-ray, blood work, MRI and EKG next week. Sadly, she is now one of us. I hate that.
Thanks for letting me vent. And Jackie, sorry I didn't mention you last time I posted. I had a chemo-brain blip and couldn't remember a name. Does that happen to you all? It's getting worse for me, not better with time, and it has me worried.
All of you in the snow...stay warm and be safe. I don't worry about DMom too much in this weather because she has her view of the park and can snuggle in. NY City is really great with just a bit of snow. And, DMom, I feel a need for another primal scream coming on. I may need that soundproof room soon. Or a padded cell!
Hugs to all...Bon
PS/ I've taken up knitting! I'm so hyperactive that I needed something to do while I veg out. Found 'fun fur' yarn and made a brown boa-wrap scarf in 3 days for my friend who went through all the initial steps of the bc dx with me. Yesterday while waiting with my friend in the surgeon's office I went through 7/8 of a skein on a new one...this time it's grey/beige/brown/yellow/white mixture. This morning I started on the 2nd skein. It will probably be done tomorrow. It's addicting when you're trying to keep your mind off things.
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Oh, one more thing...my friend who was just diagnosed with bc had a clean mammogram. She has very dense breasts with lots of cysts but mammo showed no changes and nothing alarming. Her gyn doc ordered an ultrasound because she was was having some nipple changes. The uttrasound lit up like a Christmas tree. They did another mammogram that day...still shows nothing. The biopsy from that same day clearly indicated that she has not one, but two types of cancer.
I, for one, will always DEMAND an ultrasound each year from now on.
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Bon- You come on up for a good scream in the sound booth anytime! I am so very sorry you are going through insurance H$%^ll. After all you have been through! Doesn't Florida have COBRA where they make insurance companies give you coverage for two years? Have you checked with the state to see if they have programs to fill in when you can't buy insurance? Being in business for myself, I always had to buy my own insurance. When I closed all my stores, thank God I got insurance through New York State. It's an HMO and isn't perfect, but at least I have coverage. Love the knitting strategy. Look out or it will be like that children's story with the oatmeal flowing out of the doors and down the street...miles and miles of scarves flowing!
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DMom, Yes, you're right about the knitting. It's getting to be a 'thing'.
My insurance is from a small group that was organized as a self-insured entity. Big companies do that all the time. This company tried it and it failed miserably. I didn't qualify for cobra because the insurance carrier (United Health Care) pulled out of small group coverage in Florida so we filled in the forms for another carrier...and that day Cigna announced the, too, were not continuing with small groups. Then we went to BCBS of Florida and they are just slower than you can ever imagine. (I think the heat in Florida makes things go slower than up north). Anyway, we don't qualify for COBRA and the state insurance won't kick in until you've been without insurance coverage for at least 6 months. DUH...I'm trapped. And, to make things worse, this isn't covered by the insurance commissioner but comes under the department of labor. Self insurance plans are just nuts. Never get involved in one if you can avoid it. Being self-employed, I was looking for less expensive coverage that the $800/month I was paying. I got htis plan for just under $500/month. Then last fall it jumped to nearly $1700/month. Now they billed me the $500/month price but no coverage is forthcoming. UGH! It's bureaucracy at it's worst. Oh, did I mention that the plan administrator is in Georgia?
You all might not agree, but a national health insurance program could save lots of money and lots of lots time and lives. The healthcare industry is just that...an industry. I just hate dealing with this and have no patience for it.
Ok, rant over. Back to knitting.
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OH Bon this is so unfair. You are a champion fighter. Have you looked into charitable groups for BC patients without insurance ? I am so sorry you have another hurdle to get over.
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I agree - this is why we need a good national health insurance program. I hope the one that Congress passed last year will be good. On the dense breast issue - there is a website (www.areyoudense.org) that discusses this - and urges all states to pass a law like one in Connecticut that mandates additional screeing for women with dense breasts. You dense breeast ladies may want to check it out.
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Bon, your friends story is similar to mine. I had my annual mammo in Aug 09. It was clear. In March 2010 I found a lump during a self exam. my GYN ordered a diagnostic mammo and ultrasound to see what was going on. The diagnostic mammo was clear. Because we could feel the mass they went ahead with the ultrasound and low and behold there it was. They biposied following week and of course it was BC. Then they did a MRI - guess what? I had 20 tumors in the same breast. Two in the other one. I also had very dense breasts and always said I would never be able to tell if I got a lump that was one I should worry about. I guess the moral of the story is - do what you can - mammo, self exams and push for more if you aren't comfortable.
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