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  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Medigal, I love Krauhammer too. He is brilliant. I do not always agree with him but the dude is brilliant. WW, if the dems use this in their campaign ads, shame on them. Revcat, Palin is NOT the story. That is what we are all trying to say. Leave it. She is nothing. Giffords and all the victims are the story, not 'speculation' that the insane lunatic in jail was driven to do what he did by Palin.

    Getting ready to roast some brussels. 1. Spray baking sheet with Olive oil 2. press some garlic and spread it around 3. sprinkle a little rosemary 4. halve the brussel heads 5. Squeeze a little lemon over 6. roast away

    YUM! No peanut butter for this purist.

  • kadeeb
    kadeeb Member Posts: 305
    edited January 2011

    BinVa, Thanks for reposting Iodine's link to David Brooks

    Iodine - I really enjoyed David Brooks article. He has a way with words that do not incite. Too bad he's not running for anything. I could vote for him with a clear conscience. 

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited January 2011

    Oh Barbara, I know what the story is. The story is that we live in a violent culture (nice list of Canadian crimes, Otter, but they pale in comparison with what happens in the US on a daily basis). And that culture is nurtured by words and watered by access to firearms that have no purpose other than the killing of humans, and shaped by the demonization of "the other" ie, people who are not like us.

    It seems that linking to NY Times columnists is the order of the day. I personally find David Brooks hard to stomach. His words may not incite, but they often make my skin crawl. OTOH, Bob Herbert continually speaks truth to the powers that be in our country (and takes a lot of heat for it.) In today's column he notes that over 150000 Americans have been murdered in the past 11 years, he goes on to say:

    "If we were serious, if we really wanted to cut down on the killings, we'd have to do two things. We'd have to radically restrict the availability of guns while at the same time beginning the very hard work of trying to change a culture that glorifies and embraces violence as entertainment, and views violence as an appropriate and effective response to the things that bother us.

    Ordinary citizens interested in a more sane and civilized society would have to insist that their elected representatives take meaningful steps to stem the violence. And they would have to demand, as well, that the government bring an end to the wars overseas, with their terrible human toll, because the wars are part of the same crippling pathology."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/opinion/11herbert.html?_r=1&hp 

  • annettek
    annettek Member Posts: 1,640
    edited January 2011

    It is time to stop the brussel sprout abuse! Calling them out as icky or smelly,while others smash, boil or toss them in microwave! What's next? Broccoli? Off with their heads? Or gobbling down the little broccolinis? Where is the compassion? This is a sad day on BCO.... sigh

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited January 2011

    Ladies:  Be careful of putting those brussel sprouts in your microwave!!  I bought a bag of the frozen ones and "thought" I was following the instructions and a couple of minutes later I thought the crazed shooter was in my tiny kitchen.  The corner was exploding and I realized it was the microwave.  I turned it off and I had pieces of exploded sprouts all over the inside.  Needless to say, I didn't get to eat those!  However, I got more and put in a microwavable bowl with a bit of water and after defrosted and cooked added all my goodies to it and it was scrumcious!!    Those tiny cabbages became exploding bullets when I did not know how to cook them!  We have to remember cabbage is very gasey and I think so are the sprouts.  I now cook them on the stove in a bit of water.

  • annettek
    annettek Member Posts: 1,640
    edited January 2011

    See Medigal, even a lowly brussel sprout will fight back if pushed too far!

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    I doubt the founding fathers were thinking about Uzis. Just saying

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2011

    I'm sure The Founding Fathers knew EXACTLY how the future would pan out, with automatic assault weapons, not to mention the atomic bomb.

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2011

    Medigal "Those tiny cabbages became exploding bullets when I did not know how to cook them!  We have to remember cabbage is very gasey and I think so are the sprouts. "

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited January 2011
    Annettek:  You're right!  With Blue's permission we should change the name of this thread to" the Brussel Sprouts WILL Avail" thread.  Next time some deletee tries to delete a post, we'll just explode on them!Wink   Could get a bit stinky in here but ........whatever it takes to protect our thread!
  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Interesting post 2ztus. I need to do some more history researching. I knew it was really wacky then but jeez.

    Alpal, just thinking about uzis makes my skin crawl.

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2011

    Medigal: "Those tiny cabbages became exploding bullets when I did not know how to cook them!  We have to remember cabbage is very gasey and I think so are the sprouts."

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2011

    Medigal: "Those tiny cabbages became exploding bullets when I did not know how to cook them!  We have to remember cabbage is very gasey and I think so are the sprouts."

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited January 2011

    That is so true Blue! I remember reading how Adams was looking forward to his grandchildren getting to use jet paks some day to get around. Or was that Franklin? Hmm, or maybe I'm mixed up and it was DaVinci.

    Just because you have a right, doesn't mean you need to abuse it. With rights come responsibilities. Or at least that's what they used to teach in civics classes.

    Meant to add: did the Founding Fathers know exactly what they were doing when they enshrined slavery in the Constitution? 

  • worldwatcher
    worldwatcher Member Posts: 205
    edited January 2011

    WOW! First I couldn't get a picture to post, then it posted twice and then it didn't want to delete!

    It's been a loonnngg day!

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited January 2011

    I believe you are the one trying to have it both ways 2tzus. If no one responds it could be because they have you on ignore. It's a wonderful setting.

  • kellyj
    kellyj Member Posts: 75
    edited January 2011

    2tzus, 

     I don't have you on ignore and neither do they.  There just isn't a sane argument for that one. 

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited January 2011

    Speak for yourself Kelly .. I liberally use the "ignore" function.

    Bren

  • kellyj
    kellyj Member Posts: 75
    edited January 2011

    Aww,  Bren, I love all the posts.  I wouldn't ignore anyone.  I read this thread always and have come to love ya all!! No matter what side.Laughing

  • Medigal
    Medigal Member Posts: 1,412
    edited January 2011

    worldwatcher:  Your cat photo finally came up and I just want you to  know that "no cats were harmed in the cooking of my brussels sprouts".  In fact, the only cat in the family was safe in her own apartment away from any flying sprouts!  Now when it came to DP, he had to face the horrors with me but "I" got the penalty and had to clean out the microwave on my own.  Frankly, I haven't eaten any more sprouts since the "bombing".  I never had these problems with my pickled pigs feet!

    I will have to work my way back to getting the "courage" to put those sprouts in my body.  Even GasX had no power against these angry babies!Wink

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    The fact of the matter is when the founding fathers talked about the right to bear arms, they didn't mean us - as in those of us posting here. They meant MEN. And they didn't even mean all men, they meant white men. Apparently it's alright to tweak certain parts of the constitution because times have changed, but not others?? Why is the second amendment sacred?

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Well, 2ztus (did I spell that right), I enjoy reading others opinions. I may seriously disagree with them and if it is a big enough issue, I will stand my ground and post. I have my opinion on abortion but that is NOT what this thread is about. We started out as health care and wandered off into brussel sprouts. Abortion is an incendiary topic and I think (JMHO) that this forum does not need any discussion about it.

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Yes, stupid spellcheck, I think that many of your opinions are similar to mine but I do not ignore people with whom I disagree so we agree on that.

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited January 2011

    If you want to live somewhere where there is not freedom of speech, try Britain or Canada.

    Love this thread. Could you give me an example of the above, I would like to know if I have duck tape on my mouth or not and why. I think it was 2ztus who said it.

    Glenis

  • Alpal
    Alpal Member Posts: 1,785
    edited January 2011

    Yes, I can hear you clearly. I'm too nosy to use the ignore button. LOL

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2011

    I don't have anyone on ignore.  How would I get my daily giggles if I did that.  BTW, I am prolife.  I have my own set of rules and am free thinking.  I can't even kill an insect.  Don't need to belong to any "political group" to feel important.  Logic dictates my actions not paranoia or brainwashing. 

  • painterly
    painterly Member Posts: 602
    edited January 2011

    I will ask again. You gals are so quick you overlooked the question: 

    If you want to live somewhere where there is not freedom of speech, try Britain or Canada.

    Love this thread. Could you give me an example of the above, I would like to know if I have duck tape on my mouth or not and why. I think it was 2ztus who said it.

    Glenis

  • revkat
    revkat Member Posts: 763
    edited January 2011

    Of course sometimes people don't respond because they are off cooking brussels sprouts, which is where I'm going. . .

    PS. No one suggested abridging free speech or the right to bear arms as part of a well-ordered militia, only exercising maturity and responsibility in the use of same. I'm not sure why mature adults find the need to knee jerk leap to unrelated extremes when confronted with any criticism of their culture. It's strange.

    (But then, people are.) 

  • BarbaraA
    BarbaraA Member Posts: 7,378
    edited January 2011

    Glenis, I do not remember 2ztus saying that but I could go back and check. I remember some Canadian gals posting that Canada has somehwat more restrictive laws around speech a few pages ago. But I don't remember any take on Britain.

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