December 2010 Rads

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  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    Spark - Welcome!  It is never too late to join this group.  Rads can be pretty easy.  Some sail right through it while others have numerous skin problems.  My advice would be to take to your rad onc about creams you can use and do those right now and throughout treatment.  Skin care is so important and will reduce the skin problems if and when they do arise.  When I was going through rads, I would go braless in the evenings and on weekends as much as possible and would wear oversized cottton tee shirts.  Don't use hot or cold compresses - it is tempting but don't it makes the problems worse.  There are websites you can go to that talk about skin care.  Just type in "radiation skin care breast cancer" and go through them

    Ask any and all questions you have.  The ladies on this thread are super supportive and have lots and lots of good information.  I have to tell you, I would not have made it through rads without them. 

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010
  • singletona80
    singletona80 Member Posts: 224
    edited December 2010

    Hey ladies I went today for treatment #5 and it wasnt bad.  I do notice I get a awful taste in my mouth and that only last for a few minutes after treatment.  So far no skin issues . . .I have been using Eurcun twice a day.

    Spark, welcome !!!

  • Barbcard2
    Barbcard2 Member Posts: 71
    edited December 2010

    localgirl--Thanks for your insightful comments about  my daughter's behavior.  Right now I'm trying hard not to think about the problem and refraining from calling.  My focus is on the rads (#13 today); keeping busy enough (when not sleeping) with reading, painting, some writing, and looking forward to a few days with my son and two of his kids, who plan to fly down here from NY, providing the snow up there doesn't mess up their flights.

    All you great ladies: have a good a day as possible.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010
  • je1957
    je1957 Member Posts: 15
    edited December 2010

    Jo:  I love your pictures.

     I am feeling like such a baby - I had #4 yesterday and I feel yucky.  It's hard to explain, I just don't feel right.  Sometimes I have a little nausea and I feel like crying all the time.  My husband says if I think I am going to feel bad after the treatments, I will.   Is it really all in my head???

    I'm so glad I have this place to come to and read what everybody else is going through and to ask questions.  I feel so alone at times.  I want all my family and friends to talk to me like they used to - I'm tired of answering questions about my cancer.  Will it ever get back to normal??

    Sorry for venting but thanks for listening.

    Jacky

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    Jacky - This is the place to come to vent - please don't apologize.  We have been put through so much in a short period of time it can be overwhelming.  I had lots of crying spells while going through rads.  Sometimes it would come out of nowhere.  Just let it out when you have to and move on to the next thing.  You don't have to answer cancer questions - just politely tell folks you are alright and change the subject.  It does get tiring - I am still answering questions but have gotten good at changing the subject.

    It will take some time but you will get back to some semblance of normal.   

     

  • yellow78
    yellow78 Member Posts: 82
    edited December 2010

    Hi Everyone!

     Just checking in to see how everyones Holiday was.  Ours was good.  We had a nice blizzard Sunday into Monday so now we are cleaning up all the snow.  I am going for treatment number 11 today.  Still feeling pretty good. Just tired. Hope everyone is doing good.  Jenn

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited December 2010

    Well the rad machine is working today so I am off to do tx#16.  Haveing 5 days off has done my body and my mind alot of good.  I think it should be mandatory to take time off somewhere around 1/2 way done.

  • Latte
    Latte Member Posts: 1,072
    edited December 2010
    welcome spark - it's not too late to join - i just had tx#3 today (i am also stage IIIc and had chemo DD AC/T and then lumpectomy - like you :-)  are you using creams? check with your RO and start using whatever they recommend asap to try to minimize skin problems.
  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    yellow78 - Haven't heard from you in awhile - glad you are back.  Hope your holiday was good and your are not too deep in the snow.

    Sherryc - I agree that a short break should be mandatory even though we just want to be done with rads.  Our skin is trying to tell us something and we should listen. 

  • FaithFollower
    FaithFollower Member Posts: 49
    edited December 2010

    Used xClair the entire weekend and my boob was better until yesterday's treatment. Hardly slept last night - so uncomfortable. Dr said we could switch up rads so I'm doing my boosts now to give my skin under arm and under boob time to heal. 21 down / 9 to go!  Dr also gave me silvadene to try. Think I'll take a whole ambien tonite instead of 1/2! Barbcard - as I mentioned before, my daugther has been ignoring me since the BC diag - she just can't cope I guess.  I've said my peace to her and that's all I can do - the rest is up to her and God. Praying for your peace in this situation.  GuyGirl - keep pushing forward, you can do it! Glad to hear ur hairs are coming back, regardless of the color!  Lots of people comment how "light" mine is coming back -- that would be the white hairs! 

    Got to use my tweezers over the weekend for the first time since June! Very exciting - its the small victories we must concentrate on. Hugs to all y'alls!

  • cincilady
    cincilady Member Posts: 20
    edited December 2010

    je1957 - I too feel like crying all the time.  I've never been a cryer so it seems so strange to keep finding myself in tears.  I am having Tomotherapy.  First you roll back in the machine and get a scan.  Then you roll out and the table is adjusted to line you up.  Then your roll back in for treatment.  My treatment is 10 minutes.  Well today they asked if I had a scan.  I said I have one every time don't I  She said my treatment had changed and she wasn't sure why.  So now I'm pretty freaked out wondering - why is she asking me?  Because I have to really really force myself to go everyday and when I get there I'm already a basket case.  Then i got the scan and the table rolls out but I lay there for what seems like an eternity freezing to death (from looking that the time I got done I guess it was about 10 - 15 minutes).  No one comes in or says anything.  Then she comes in to do the adjustment and I ask if something is wrong. She said no, they had to get the dosimetrist since the plan changed to aprove it.  Well would it have killed her to come on the speaker and tell me that?  I have to lay perfectly still since the scan was already done.  Then I get the treatment.  By this time I have been laying still without moving for about 30 minutes.  Tears poured out of my eyes pretty much the whole time.  This was only #4 of 20 and I don't know if I'm going to make it.  I am concerned about buring and really hadn't heard of anyone making it through without burning - so thanks to those of you who replied.  I will try harder to believe it could be me too.  I am using cream.  I use castor oil at night and go to bed all slimed up with a cheap sports bra over it.  I put Miaderm on 4x a day.  This is what my RO said to do so I'm following her instructions.  I am not working this week since my place is closed this week.  I will be working fulltime through the rest of my treatments and am also concerned about that - but right now would welcome the distraction.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    cincilady - I have not heard ton Tomotherapy so I really don't know what you are going through.   I do know the stress of having to lay still in a freezing room and no one talking to you.  I cried most of the time through rads.  Try talking to your rad onc and let her know what you are feeling and see if she can make your experience less stressful.  

    It does not seem like it, but you will make it.  Rads can be overwhelming and hopeful it will get better for you.

    I worked a full time job and I will not kid you, it was tough but it was also a good distraction.  I just had to go to bed earlier at night.  My rads were late in the day so when I was finished, I could go straight home.

    Hang in there (((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))) 

  • Barbcard2
    Barbcard2 Member Posts: 71
    edited December 2010

    cincilady--I also don't know about tomotherapy, but your description of the impersonal rad set-up is exactly like mine.  All the technicians say is "don't move"; then they shove me into place.  And they are better than the nurses.  Haven't seen the rad onc in a week.  Feel very sleepy today after #13, as if I have a fever (I don't.)  But we will all get through this!  Rash dx as a "fungus"--more creams, etc. Freezing cold weather doesn't help either.  But we can, we must, we will!  (I sound like a politician now. Must be the  DC influence though I have absolutely no connection with the government.)

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited December 2010

    I am realizing that I am very fortunate as my rads techs are so gentle and thougtful.  Yesterday when I met with rad onc he asked me how I felt I was being treated, I am sure he asks anyone.  Perhaps the difference is that he owns the practice so it matters to him?

    Slightly sore nipple, they will tape it tomorrow to help...

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    raincitygirl - You are fortunate.  When the docs own the practice they are that much more concerned about how the patients are being treated by the entire staff.  That practice is their bread and butter not to mention the nice cars they drive.

    My rad onc could not have cared less.  It was so bad, I kept a journal of my visits and then put a package together and sent it to the hosp board of directors.  The rad center is part of a hosp system owned by doctors and one of the board members is the med onc who works in the same building as the rad center.  They have contacted me but I am still waiting for a final answer. 

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited December 2010

    jo - the other interesting thing for the rad onc practice is that they agreed to pay themselves a pre-set salary so that there was never a perception that they recommend unnecessary treatment

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    raincitygirl - That is interesting and honest.  That tells me they really do care how the patients are treated and are not trying to find ways to make their bank accounts sweeter.  I like the sound of that place.

  • toni30
    toni30 Member Posts: 252
    edited December 2010

    At my place, the techs are pretty nice but the nurses are worthless.  But I too had a long set up experience, holding my arms above my head for what seemed like forever and being close to tears. Cincilady - You will make it through.  I am half done and have no burning or itching - hope you have a good experience too.

    Hugs to everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited December 2010

    Had #16 today tomorrow I will be officially 1/2 way through and after tx I will go for my next CT scan to see if they need to adjust for my boost at the end.  Meet with my RO's partner today and he did not like me using the Clobex.  No big suprise there.  I know the staff had already filled him in but I told him what I had gone through and that by Wed night I was desperate and used what I had on hand because none of the other stuff they told me to use worked.  I told him I was much better and that most of the rash was gone and that I had conitinued the claritin like the nurse said and that it was helping and had only itched once on the way over.  So he took a look at my skin and said it looks really good.  I said it is because I used the steriod lotion u don't want me to use (however I do understand the not continuing it because it is strong and the label says do not use for more than 2 weeks).  So I waited for him to tell me what he was going to let me use and silence.  So I told him u don't want be to use the Clobex and the other things don't work so you have to give me something that I can have on hand in case this comes back.  I don't won't to be stuck in a bad situation again so he agreed to call in Kenalog for me.  He is a nice guy with a great smile but gees they just seem to not want to give you stuff.  I guess I know the RX companies are not making a fortune off of them.

  • IowaSue45
    IowaSue45 Member Posts: 586
    edited December 2010

    Hi Ladies, I am also part of this Dec. group. I started yesterday. The RO I have said that instead of 33 rad. tx I am going to get 18 he says a lot of places are doing half the amount because studies have shown the 18 is as good as 33 so I hope he is right. He also said if I wanted 33 I could have them but he believes 18 will be just as effective. Anyone else heard of this? I hope everyone is doing good!!

  • susantm
    susantm Member Posts: 184
    edited December 2010

    wow, 18 instead of 33? That would be nice! I would be done already. I haven't heard of that, but then I don't know much about this whole thing.

     Like raincitygirl, I have wonderful people to work with. Everyone at my clinic--an HMO, by the way (Kaiser Permanente)--is just wonderful. They always explain everything, especially if there is something new. When I started rads, I got a whole folder of information on what would be done, why it was done, and how to take care of myself. Then I met with a nurse who went over it all with me. When I go in for treatments, the techs tell me just what they are going to do, offer me a heated towel for my arms, and apologize if there is any slight delay. There is always a jigsaw puzzle going in the waiting room, which gives me something to do while I wait. The last day before Christmas, they handed out candy canes decorated to look like a reindeer. They really do all they can to make the experience as positive as possible, and I am grateful for that.

  • raincitygirl
    raincitygirl Member Posts: 3,143
    edited December 2010

    susan - the way we are being treated must be a northwest thing :)

    Just kidding!

  • GuyGirl
    GuyGirl Member Posts: 182
    edited December 2010

    The nurses and techs at the clinic I go to are all very nice and they do cover me up when they can.  I have been very lucky through all my surgeries, chemotheraphy and radiation that the staff have all been very nice and caring.  I even switched surgeons after my initial biopsy when I found out my cancer was aggressive and the surgeon I left still checks on me to make sure I am getting the proper care.   Went to the funeral home last night for a 57 year old friend of ours who lost his 5 month battle with cancer.  He was fine one day and once he got his diagnosis he just gave up.  I can not do that to my family.  I am going to fight this with all that I have.  I tease my husband that I am not gonna let him enjoy my retirement alone, that I will be here to spend it with him.  Hope everyone has a great day.  I have number 20 today and then only 13 more to go.  No burning or itching, just a tan.  Wonder if there are any topless beaches nearby, I have shown my  boobs to so many people the past few months, It would be nice to have an even tan.  LOL

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    IowaSue44 - I have heard of the 18 rad tx's.  The Canadians are doing it and seem to be having success with it.  After extensive research into radiation therapy, I found that American rad oncs are following their lead in new advances in treating BC patients with fewer rads.  Not everyone in the country is doing this yet.  It is still pretty new in the US but may become the standard in the next several years.

    If you are able to do the 18 - go for it.  Treatment time will be shorter and you will get the same protection as 33.  

  • Sherryc
    Sherryc Member Posts: 5,938
    edited December 2010

    Susan and raincity my clinic staff is great also.  They are very efficiant and always on time.  The only time I have to wait in the waiting room is if I get there early.  If the room is extra cold and I make a comment they always offer me a blanket.  They have always explained things to me and I also received a big information packet on my first visit to the office.  Even with this whole rash thing I know if my Dr had not been out of town it would not have gotten to this just seems other docs just don't want to really do anything, they just want to tie you over until your doc gets back.  I guess it is just that every dr has their own way of doing things and they don't want to step on each others toes. Oh well my itch now seems to be controled with claritine so I am grateful for that.

  • jo1955
    jo1955 Member Posts: 8,543
    edited December 2010

    Sherryc - So glad to hear the rash is under control.  I still remember when I had mine - it was enough to drive me crazy.  Interfered with sleep and was glad when I got it cleared up.  Not having to deal with that makes it easier to do rads.

    You raise a good issue though with having to see two different docs.  I had trouble with Femara and was offered an appt with the other onc.  I said no, I would wait for my regular one to get back from the holidays.  I am off the Femara and enjoying the break from meds.  I will see my regular onc in the next week or so to start Tamox.  I really believe my body just need a much deserved break. 

  • Barbcard2
    Barbcard2 Member Posts: 71
    edited December 2010

    Feeling somewhat better today.  Rad#14 went fast and despite the snow in NY, my son and two of my grandkids arrived safely.  Will probably contact a therapist for after they leave.  Cheers.

  • Tg5471530
    Tg5471530 Member Posts: 111
    edited December 2010

    Just had Rad#10 today.  last night I felt like I had sunburn and it really hurt. I also and had shocks under my arm where ever there is a scar from either the drain or node biopsy's.  I was told part of this is from nerve generation. But the are driving me crazy.  Plus, I have been so fatigued.  since Rads started i got 2 viruses and an upper respiratory infection.  these all seem to be on their way out now.  Although last night I was up all night with hopefully my last kid being sick.  So  I think I'm going to go to bed soon.  Yea I know its way too early but oh well.

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