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  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited December 2010

    I'm inclined to agree with you Athena.  I will sort it out on Monday and maybe have the infusion later in the week.

    My niece is looking at the data as we speak.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2010

    I've googled but can't seem to find the answer....does anyone know the big difference between Zometa and the other bisphosphonates?  I'm asking because I'm on Fosavance (40mg + 5600 VitD3) once a week) and I'm just over 5 years out from my last period.  Perhaps it's the dosage amount?

    Athena -- I agree - stay on Zometa and wait for the next exciting study!  It may say the opposite of this one Kiss!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2010

    Exactly, Lindasa! I felt like a condemned woman yesterday and changed my signature to reflect it. I may still drop dead, but I no longer "feel" it.

    Enjoy life, everyone. Lindasa, I don't know the answer to your question. Someone on the older women thread or the Stage IV forum may know, since they get lots of bonme treatment.Kiss 

  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited December 2010
    AZURE Results Show No Effect of Zolendronic Acid on Breast Cancer
    Zosia Chustecka
    December 9, 2010 (San Antonio, Texas) - Long-awaited results from the AZURE trial in breast cancer patients show no effect from the bisphosphonate zolendronic acid (Zometa, Novartis) on the recurrence of breast cancer or on overall survival. However, a subset analysis showed a significant effect on both recurrence and survival in postmenopausal women (more than 5 years after menopause), but no effect on premenopausal women.

    The overall negative results from the AZURE trial have led the manufacturer to withdraw its application for zolendronic acid use in breast cancer risk reduction. But they do not appear to be deterring experts who are already using this strategy on the basis of previous positive results.

    The most positive findings to date come from the Austrian ABCSG trial reported 2 years ago, and subsequently published in the New English Journal of Medicine (2009;360:679-691). This study found that zolendronic acid reduced breast cancer recurrence and breast cancer death by one third.

    This Austrian trial sparked great interest from the whole medical community, and led some clinicians to prescribe zolendronic acid, which is indicated for osteoporosis, to women with breast cancer to increase their chance of survival.

    However, such use is not recommended in any clinical guidelines, and the scientific community urged physicians to wait for results from the AZURE trial, said Sharon Giordano, MD, MPH, associate professor in the Department of Breast Medical Oncology at the University of Texas M.D. Andersen Cancer Center in Houston.

    She was one of several experts speaking at a press conference today here at the 33rd Annual San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium to highlight the results from AZURE. They will be presented at the meeting tomorrow by principal investigator Robert Coleman, MD, professor of oncology at the University of Sheffield, United Kingdom.

    Routine use of zolendronic acid to prevent breast cancer recurrence is not indicated.
    In light of the new and contradictory findings from AZURE, she said, "the routine use of zolendronic acid to prevent breast cancer recurrence is not indicated." The drug has a use in osteoporosis and other bone disorders, which are approved indications.

    The finding of a significant effect in postmenopausal women in a subgroup analysis is "intriguing but not definitive," she said.

    However, several experts disagreed and said that they were already prescribing the drug and would continue to do so.

    Michael Gnant, MD, professor of surgery at the Medical University of Vienna, who led the positive Austrian trial, said after those results came out that he would use zolendronic acid in patients who were similar to the participants of that trial (premenopausal women who were treated with goserelin to induce artificial menopause). Now, on the basis of the positive subgroup findings, he said he would also use zolendronic acid in postmenopausal women.

    "Before I would say that I would treat my wife, who is 42. Now I would also treat my mother, who is 82," he said.

    Rowan Chlebowski, MD, PhD, medical oncologist at the Harbor-University of California in Los Angeles, told Medscape Medical News that he would also use zolendronic acid in postmenopausal women with breast cancer to reduce their risk for recurrence. "Many states cover use of zolendronic acid to prevent bone loss in the patient population, so I prescribe it for that," he said.

    Last year, Dr. Chlebowski reported a large observational study that showed that women who were taking oral bisphosphonates (which did not include zolendronic acid, which is administered intravenously) for osteoporosis had a significantly lower risk for breast cancer. Two other observational studies have reported similar findings. In all of these studies, the women were postmenopausal, Dr. Chlebowski noted.

    The effect of zolendronic acid on breast cancer is only seen when estrogen levels are very low, Dr. Chlebowski explained. It is seen in postmenopausal women more than 5 years after menopause (as in the AZURE subset) and in younger premenopausal women who have been pushed into artificial menopause by goserelin (as in the Austrian trial), he pointed out. Dr. Gnant noted that the best reduction effects were seen in women who were older than 40 years; younger women in whom the induced menopause was "less than perfect" had less favorable outcomes.

    Zolendronic acid does not have an effect on breast cancer that is being driven by estrogen, Dr. Chlebowski said.

    The latest results have led the experts to speculate that zolendronic acid does not have a direct anticancer effect - which had been suspected at one point - but rather that it has an effect on the host, specifically on the bone marrow environment, which prevents the cancer from returning.

    Dr. Gnant explained that zolendronic acid is administered by injection once every 6 months, and that a healthy individual would clear the drug from the system in about 24 hours. But the drug persists in bone and changes the bone marrow environment, Dr. Gnant told Medscape Medical News. There is good reason to believe that breast cancer cells collect within the bone marrow, forming a "stem cell sanctuary," particularly in early disease. They can be dormant there, sometimes for years, before they escape and cause breast cancer recurrence, he said. It now appears that zolendronic acid is altering the bone marrow environment in such a way that the breast cancer cells are less likely to escape and cause a recurrence, he said.

    Details of AZURE Results

    The AZURE study was designed after the positive results from the Austrian trial came out and zolendronic acid began to be used in the wider breast cancer population, Dr. Coleman explained. It was an academic study, he emphasized, conducted in 3360 women from 174 centers worldwide (but mostly in the United Kingdom).

    These women had stage II or III breast cancer. Nearly all were treated with adjuvant chemotherapy (93% anthracyclines, 23% taxanes), and some also received endocrine therapy. Half of them were randomized to receive zolendronic acid 4 mg intravenously over 3 to 4 weeks for 6 doses, and then every 3 months for 8 doses and every 6 months for 5 doses.

    All of these details are different from the Austrian trial, Dr. Gnant noted, where all of the women were stage I, none received chemotherapy, and zolendronic acid was used once every 6 months.

    Dr. Coleman explained that the more intensive administration schedule in AZURE was used because at the time the trial was designed, it was thought that zolendronic acid had a direct anticancer effect.

    The differences in dosing schedule might also be related to the fact that osteonecrosis of the jaw, a known adverse effect of bisphosphonates, was not seen in the Austrian study, but was reported in 17 patients (1.16%) in the AZURE trial.

    The overall results from AZURE, after a median follow-up of 59 months, show no significant effect from zolendronic acid on either disease-free or overall survival, although there was a positive trend for overall survival.

    Significant Effect in Subgroup

    However, in a preplanned subset analysis based on menopausal status, zolendronic acid did show a significant effect on overall survival in a subgroup of women (n = 1101) with well-established menopause (more than 5 years postmenopausal), reducing the risk for death by 29%. There were 86 deaths in the zolendronic acid groups, compared with 120 in the other group (hazard ratio, 0.71; P = .017).

    There was no significant effect in younger women who were premenopausal or perimenopausal.

    "To see a survival advantage like this is quite remarkable, and the difference in outcome between this group and the younger population is unlikely to be a chance finding. We will clearly want to investigate further in this population," he said.

    However, he also emphasized that this result came from a subgroup analysis, so it should be considered "hypothesis-generating."

    "This was an unexpected finding," he told Medscape Medical News, "and now we have to go back to see why there is an effect when there is no estrogen and why there isn't one when estrogen is present."

    Dr. Gnant was more enthusiastic, and highlighted the fact the reduction in death was nearly a third, which is similar to what was reported in the Austrian study. He also pointed out that women who are in established menopause constitute a large part of the breast cancer patient population.

    Dr. Coleman, however, was rather reserved in his conclusions. "Adjuvant use of bisphosphonates like zolendronic acid is widespread among women with breast cancer. The results of this trial will help answer many questions, as well as invite new ones," he said.

    He also suggested that the latest findings "will likely dissuade clinicians from giving adjuvant bisphosphonates on a routine basis to younger women taking adjuvant chemotherapy because, although the drug is generally well tolerated, there is a small risk of osteonecrosis of the jaw."

    Dr. Giordano has disclosed no relevant financial relationships. Dr. Coleman reports consultancy and being on the speakers' bureau for Novartis and Amgen. Dr. Gnant reports consultancy for Novartis, AstraZeneca, and Amgen, and receiving funding from Novartis and AstraZeneca. Dr. Chlebowksi reports being on the speakers' bureau of Novartis and Amgen, and receiving grants from Amgen.

    33rd Annual San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium (SABCS): Abstract S4-5. Presented December 10, 2010.
  • voraciousreader
    voraciousreader Member Posts: 7,496
    edited December 2010

    Finally heard from my physician and niece who is an oncologist.  I will continue with the Zometa.  Since I haven't had any side effects and I was thrown into menopause with the ovarian suppression, it was their thought that at the very least I would have the bone benefit from the infusion. 

    The doctor also mentioned that there is also one more pending study that should be concluded in the next six months which should shed additional light on the data that we presently have.

    My prayers and good wishes are with everyone on this board.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2010

    Voracious - glad we are on the same boat in this. I got my six-month Zometa infusion on Tuesday. I wish my onc had been as forthcoming as yours. He just said I should do it because it's the only treatment I'm on. Which shows how much of this is superstition. Still, I think it HAS to be at least slightly good to have strong bones and a strong defense system generally.

  • Lindissima
    Lindissima Member Posts: 239
    edited January 2011

    bump for lovely

  • Marion
    Marion Member Posts: 207
    edited January 2011

    I have been on the Zometa clinical trial for a year and after reading the findings of the new study, I have decided to drop out. I was always "on the fence" about it anyway. I have always thought that, in my case, taking Zometa was "overkill." I hope I am making the right decision!  

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