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But Cathi, "normal" thoughts for parents aren't doing drugs with such young children around!
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Good point, Barbe. God Bless you, Cathi. I can't imagine how hard it must be for you to see what this is doing to Landen. Poor, sweet little guy. The children are always the ones that suffer the most.
Love and hugs,
Karen
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Oh Barbie- you are right again - maybe you and Nettie need to come here and kick some butt -
Well we celebrated Alexcis's 7th B'day today (12/10 is the big day) and Indian Rocks Beach has their annual stret Christmas parade, goes right past the house can just stand on the lawn, it was fun, had to make her her chicken fettucini and cookies and then she likes Carvel Ice Cream cake, they got a ton of candy and beads thrown at them, wonderful watching them, Of coarse with good sometimes there comes bad, Mom and Dad were not here for Landen and Ella , they should have been here from 8-8 per DCF new rule for Sunday, I just got a FB PM from Amanda stating she and SIL were sick all night and day, not even a phone call all day long. I need you all to pray for Ed and I so that we may live long and healthy so that Landen and Ella are able to grow into wonderful adults. I cried so hard after putting Landen to bed, thinking what will happen to these kids, how will they grow up if we are not allowed to live long enough to have a positive influence in their lifes. Theres seriously is nothing more I want for Christams this year than an answer or a sign from God that this will all be ok for them.
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Cathi, you and Ed have ALREADY given the kids a positive influence! They lock and load all the good things they see and hear and it will all add up to them being very compassionate and loving humans. You done good!
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Thanks Barbe- XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOX But I can't help but think how any positive influence we have had will be wiped away if/when they go back home to mom and dad. You know I would so like to be able to have a quiet evening alone with my hubby again, would love to drink a glass of wine and be silly, but I don't want that at the expense of these kids. And neither does Ed, it was kinda ruff going for us for awhile NEW PARENT THING - LOL, but we have a rythm going now, we are both tired as hell most of the time, we love all of our grandkids but what a PROTECTIVE bond we have going here, Landen is attached to PA-PA's hip most of the time, Ella she is going to be one on Saturday, a year has gone by, she has lived half of her life with us. Christmas is gonna be pretty hard this year, so many emotions, I so want to LOVE my daughter, I do love her, but I am so disappointed beyond words these days. UGH sorry for babbling.
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I saw that on FB and laughed outloud! What a great picture Cathi! ehhehehehehehehe
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Ella elf is so adorable and happy!
Cathi-- blab away all you like sweetie (better get it out here than at some inopportune time) you may love your daughter, that's natural but maybe what it is - is that you don't LIKE your daughter and what she has done. That is more than understandable considering what she has done to the children HER children and what she has done to you and Ed.. her actions and decisions affect not only her but many around her. What an amazing gift you are giving those children. I wonder if god had something to do with her moving to Florida to be closer. I can not imagine what would have happened had they stayed in NY. Things have a funny way of working out. My prayers are with you.
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Elaine, you said that so well that I'll just say "ditto".
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Thanks Elaine & Barbe, Ella LOVES to dance, thanks to me, I put that outfit on here and put ROCKIN-AROUND THE CHRISTMAS TREE ON and she went wild. Even Landen is starting to dance now, I always loved doing that with Alexcis too, we would have a PRIVATE PARTY, crank the music and ROCK OUT.
I think you are right Elaine, I do LOVE Amanda, but I really do not LIKE her now. We have another DCF meeting Thursday AM, I can't even begin to imagine where these children would be had this all happened in NY, Amandas dad certienly is no better, not that he would have even wanted to have them, Bill has a VERY elderly grandmother up there, a mom who according to her FB page is always loving being high and from his own account Bills dad is still a drunk and abusive to his current wife, so for sure these babies would have been in foster care, I do believe with out question God brought them all here if for nothing else to help and protect Landen and Ella, not sure what his plan is at this time for DD & SIL.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOX
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Easy to say, not easy to do...but don't worry about dd and sil. They are grownups, capable of making their own decisions AND deal with the consequences of those decisions. I think we are sometimes to quick to protect our children (aka bail them out, make excuses, and so on) because it is so hard to watch them struggle with growing up and learning how to be grown up and such. But at this point they need to learn to live w what they have done. This has NOTHING to do with you and Ed.. my goodness you have taken on a lot, already having raised a family, and dealing with variety of health concerns... Landen and Ella, while they may have some issues in the future (who doesn't) are so much better off now. They are safe and loved and cared for and wanted. Every child deserves that. As much as you can, enjoy all the good things that are happening while taking care of your selves... taking advantage of all the help that is available so that you and Ed are able to have time for each other. I am in awe of all you have taken on... a real hero who deserves at the least a beautiful cape and tiara. I so wish I was nearby so I could help. You are always in my heart and in my prayers.
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Ditto to all the above, Cathi. I have a small sliver of your burden on my plate coming up. I agreed to take Connor for one month. That has now expanded to three months. While I adore my darling four-year-old, the greatest blessing of being a grandma, I thought, was sending them home after a good spoiling! Now I'm stuck with actual parenting chores...yikes!!!
Today I received a flash of inspiration. For three years now I have been trying to find motivation and energy to get involved in volunteer work...to take my own despair and turn it inside-out and make a difference. Suddenly, I saw this time with Connor as a gift, an opportunity. I have three months to make a difference in one life that will affect the rest of his life!!! I am now an official volunteer and thrilled at the challenge. Just think of it!!!
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Oh Judie, you will be a wonderful motivator!! Look at what you did for your son....you can pass that gift on to Connor. May you two dance with the music!!!!
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Ahhhhhh Judie you made me cry - A GOOD CRY though, I truly like those thoughts/words. If you need any toddler parenting tips let me know - LOL , while Conner is a bit older than Landen 4 is still so young and so busy , chocolate & coffee are my vitamins, Onco is not happy about that, but he knows he's fighting a loosing battle right now with me, I am doing what I HAVE TO for the kids FIRST, and just praying a whole lot to God to keep me moving and functionable.
I love you all so much for picking me up when my belly is scrapping the bottom of the pool and I feel like I am drowning.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO
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Cathi, I posted once before when you were considering daycare for Ella, your grandchilldren are so lucky to have you and Ed. Watch them sleep on Christmas eve and realize how blessed the four of you are. I so admire what you are doing. Take care,, Karen
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Thanks Karen, I watch them sleep all the time, and a good many tears roll down my cheeks when I do, worry and wonder what the future holds for them.
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It has finally happened I have lost my faith my trust in God today, everyone is telling me it's ok it's in God's hands, well it has been and I can't believe what is happening, court today and if DCF can get another date scheduled before Christmas Landen and Ella will be back home by then - A TEST TRIAL RUN as I have been made to understand - pretty much lets let them F-UP , but don't worry they are going to be closely supervised. What the hell, theres a team called the reunification task force that will visit the home at least twice weekly announced/unannounced, Sara the DCF worker must go at least once a week, and also the court guardian, plus to the school, etc, etc. They are not even doen with the things they were told they had to do, and starting Monday they start their criminal TASKS, I don't understand, it's like DCF eexpects them to mess up so put the kids in to pull them back out, and all I can do is sit, watch and worry, I am literrly sick to my stomach. just last night SIL said here at his visit, "we didn't get the kids taken away because we are BAD PARENTS, we got them taken away because we were doing drugs and fighting" I guess I don't know what BAD PARENT MEANS.
I know it would be hard at anytime, but THIS IS NOT THE TIME, they are not ready and no one see's that - they see CHRISTMAS. My God all they talk about is how broke they always are, no money and it's only been them and a package of diapers here every now and again. They have to provide their pay stubs to DCF we get copies of everything, they make enough money to provide, not to live extravagant- but to provide. So anyway I am a mess, I am so sad so scared, my friend Blaire says I still have to trust in God, but I don't DCF and the task team follow them for 90 days - big deal.
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Cathi, your SIL does have a point. They aren't BAD parents. They certainly aren't good ones though! The point that they aren't model citizens is known only to you, and Ed, and the DCF and the courts, and your family, and of course, all of us...but that's not the point.
Maybe the DCF is doing the right thing before the kids think they'll be with you forever (which they might!). Kind of sink or swim. Get the kids back home,,,,NOPE, back to ME-MA and PA-PA!!!!
You will all be in my thoughts......
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Think of it. The longer the kids stay with you the more chance that they will NEVER be able to go home. Your daughter and SIL have to step up to the plate NOW!!!! Put up or shut up. (not you, them!)
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Yeah but why do Landen and Ella have to be bounced around up rooted, be the ultimate damaged goods in all this crap. I am sorry this is wrong, they are /were bad parents, doing crack, buying crack over diapers, food, etc, a dad pulling a knife on mom and kids saying he's gonna kill them, I have learned through all this in NY he beat the crap out of her MANY times, this is all fixed in a few months, NOPE , I am wittness to that in their visits and how they continue to bicker , all be it, I have to stumble upon it now, as they are quite careful to go into another corner of the house. And it's not little normal husband and wife things. This is killing me inside, sending these kids back to a bad place - you know I am sorry I know I am ME-MA, and my enmotions run deep, but I KNOW, maybe not today, maybe not in a week or a month, but I KNOW.
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Moving the try at reuniting them with their parents up may also help get them into a more permanent situation sooner, either with their parents or with you, and isn't that stability what is best for them in the long run?
Maybe some of the supports that are now built into the situation with Amanda having a job rather than 24 hour responsibility for the two kids no money of her own, and both kids in a daycare/school will help. If they are not enough, isn't it better to find out sooner rather than later?
If they can get through the stress of the holiday season intact, they stand a chance long term. If they can't, would you really want those kids to still be in limbo at this time next year?
There will never be a good time to reunite them with parents who have messed up in the past.
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If there mess up was truly in the PAST, then maybe this would not be so upsetting, but while their DRUG testing is coming back clean, they still have VERY ADDICTIVE BEHAVIORS, not my call nor Ed's - but all the professionals, while they are not buying drugs at this point, they are feeding their addictive habits with other things, in 6/mo they have maybe spent $100 on these children, yet they sport new cell phones, cloths, etc, etc, this is a CONCERN to the courts , even today it was, yet these kids are going back, they NEVER have any food, just like it was before, when I was blind to all that was going on. Now I see, now I feel, now I know, but no one listens now. Judge says you are making enough money to support your children all the way through this - yet they have not, so I guess I just sit back and say and do nothing, and SIL can't wait to get them away from us, we'll be lucky if we see them for weeks. Time for my punishment for caring, I'm 3 miles away and I won't see them. I have already heard the comments.
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Cathi, you HAVE to sit back and let this play out. Do NOT give them money!!!!! Yes, it is tough, but like I said above, it's better to know now that the parents can't step up to the plate and something PERMANENT has to be done.
How long do you think is long enough? 6 months? How long were you going to take care of them in limbo like this? And then rip the kids up and send them home? NO! The DCFis doing you a favour right now in a way. They are pushing the issue to make the kids wake up. It's family time now or NEVER.
Your other concerns with knives and drugs are police issues. You have the RIGHT to call the cops on them!!! Yes! If you find out their is physical abuse you have the RIGHT to get your daughter and grands out of it. But it won't be resolved by band-aids.
This is a safe place for you to piss and moan. You HAVE to keep us in the loop. This is your haven and this will be the hardest couple of weeks for you. Forget Christmas!! This would be bad at any time of year.
Just fake it till you make it. Something will be resolved around all this. Even if it's you calling the cops and getting them jailed. But something PERMANENT has to be resolved. This is too serious for a temporary assistance stance.
Now you KNOW I LOVE you. I am HERE for you. You know that.
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I wish you were all here right now, I gotta pull myself together soon and go get them from Daycare, can't be a mess around them. Barbe you said whet my BFF Blaire said and Ed too, no money , let it play out, but how do I avoid those guilt trips Mom can you buy some diapers , some food, we are broke , cause just like before if I keep doing that, they will keep spending on things they should not, becaus ethey know where my heart lies. How do I NOT go buy diapers or food for those children.
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Its called tough love. They need to rise to the occasion or deal with the consequences. If you help here and there, then DCS will not see true situation. One of the behaviors of addiction is laying the guilt on others. "if you really love me then..." The thing is you do love them and thats why you have to sit back, not help and let it play out. As Barbe, Ed and Blaire have said for true emergencies call police, DCS (real not imagined like not feeding children and such). The experts know what is going on and will be following them, the school is aware, you are aware...many people will be watching out for those two sweeties until it is resolved. Echoing Barbe..come here this is a place for support, to let it out, to worry, cry, yell what ever you need. We are here for you...
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Cathi, if you give them a PENNY you are validating their behaviour!!! I will be SO pissed at you!! You have to make them realize what children cost. So let DCF see them without diapers and food....it's the only thing that will work.
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Barbe , Elaine I know you are soooo right, but my heart is so weak when it comes to the kids, so I'll just PM you guys here or on FB every time I get those calls from DD, so you can give me the strength and courage to say no. OH MY, my heart is hurting so bad.
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Ther is only one other time in my life when my heart has ached this bad, and thats when my mom died. I NEVER wanted to feel like that again, I am trying to keep it together, but I can't so glad Ed is home this evening, every time I look at Ella and Landen, the tears roll, and I gotta find an excuse to leave the room, watching them fall asleep tonight is going to kill me. Wisj it would then I would not hurt.
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Cathi----I wish we could all heal your aching heart


Your sistahs here love you!!

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