The Fungal Theory
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LOL...Barry, I think we are starting to think alike! We posted the same article but from different websites, within minutes of each other.
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That is a frightening story (and reminded me of Suzanne Somers' experience being told she had metastatic cancer throughout her body, and it turned out to be a fungus).
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Julia, I know, right?
I read on another post about your doing photography. You have a lot in common with my step daughter (the one I told you about). She just recently started her own company doing portraits. All her work is quite good but her work with babies and children is her niche' I think.
I wanted to let you know that your voice of reason is really appreciated on these threads! So glad you are here!
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Way over my head.... I'm one of them "intellectual elves."
However, I would like to speak to the patient's RIGHTS.
The patient has the right to make an informed decision.
1. She has had surgical removal of the cancer base (a lumpectomy.)
2. I would like to see the DATA that shows the survival improvement for her if she elects
a. TX with Herceptin
b. TX with Herceptin + Taxane
c. No further treatment / "Healthy" diet
Speculatively, with her Stage 1 non-invasive...there ain't gonna' be major statistical improvement either way...particularly if she is not "young" / under 40.
Provided the patient is well-informed and understands the consequences of no further treatment...If she feels better about herself, her life, her future...more power to her!
tl
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I'm one of those intellectual elves...
I went back and read the original post and realized I was replying to something stated 8 pages ago.
tl
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I know there's a thread asking who has undergone root canals but not really much information otherwise. I had one around the age of twelve but for whatever reason, it was never crowned. Two years ago it began to break and chip so I saw a dentist who crowned it. One year later, my bc diagnosis. I had never really given it much thought until recently. After Thanksgiving, I noticed it was abscessed above the gum line. No pain (it's a dead tooth) just a little tenderness when brushing. I had been planning on seeing a holistic minded dentist about my amalgam fillings so I called him and made an appt. He consulted with me for about an hour before the exam and I learned a good amount about why this tooth needs to come out. Although he didnt use the word fungus, he spoke of germs and infection. This, of course, lead me thinking and more research. The fact is when dentists fill the root canal there are still 3 miles of inaccessible, untreated tubules from which these germs can pour toxins into your body or the germs (fungi) themselves migrate into your blood stream and take up residence in other parts of the body. These are not in the canal itself but in the tubules that make up 85% of the dentin (the area under the enamel and surrounding the pulp chamber and root canals.) I have ordered a book called Root Canal Cover Up by Geroge E Meinig and looking forward to learning more. Anyone else here had experience with root canals?
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Impositive, lol...guess we are on the same track, except you are way ahead of me. I read that article earlier as I'm sure you have as well
I've been thinking in regard to fungi being cancer. It doesn't matter that much. For me, they are one in the same...and if they are different...does it matter? They are both deadly.
What's interesting about candida is it's like cancer in that it changes from non-invasive to an invasive cell. Once it becomes invasive it changes it's make up so it spreads to other parts of the body...the same way cancer from a non-invasive state develops a invasive conponent.
Researchers at the Agency for Science, Technology and Research's (A*STAR) Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology (IMCB) have discovered new molecular mechanisms that provide a more detailed understanding of how the normally benign Dr. Jekyll-like fungus known as Candida albicans transforms into a serious and often life-threatening Mr. Hyde-like form.
The fungus starts its 'attack' on a patient by changing its oval shape into a filamentous form, which has thin, threadlike appendages emerging from the cell body. Wang's team, who has been studying C. albicans for more than seven years, was responsible for identifying the master "controller" protein called Hgc1 in 20041.
This "controller" functions like a regulator and tells the fungus when to start the transformation from the harmless oval shape to the infectious filamentous form.
Wang's team found the answer to this question in two proteins called Rga2 and Cdc11. They discovered that they each function like a switch on two different cellular machineries that normally determines cell shape. "The master regulator Hgc1 acts like the 'finger' that flips the switches to start the infection process," said Wang.
"Our findings have uncovered detailed molecular mechanisms which define how these two proteins interact with the master 'controller' to cause infections. This has opened new opportunities for us to investigate further into a new range of therapeutic targets for fungal infections," explained Wang.http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/84701.php
So...when candida in our colon maybe harmless, when the enviorment is right, they develop legs or threadlike appendages emerging through the colon into our body, blood and organs. Candida can also find it's way out through a leaky gut and once it develops its threadlike appendages it becomes invasive?
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As the fungus spreads, our bodies get more and more polluted with all the toxins candida release.
Some of these toxins include:
- acetaldehyde
- ethanol
- formaldehyde
- ammonia
- carbon dioxide
Acetaldehyde has such an effect on us that we can literally feel like we are going crazy!
And it gets worse.
Besides being a potent neurotoxin, acetaldehyde can also damage our liver and kidneys and is considered a probable carcinogen. Plus this chemical actually blocks hormones from entering into our cells.
This is why hormone imbalances (hypothyroidism is the prime example) typically don't show up with a candida infection. Doctors test our blood levels, which come back normal because the BLOOD levels are fine. It's the CELLS themselves that cannot get enough of the hormones.
It is no wonder that those who have candida yeast overgrowth have such a wide range of seemingly unrelated (but very much related!) symptoms.
So that's where we go next - a list of many of the more common candida symptoms.
http://www.how-to-boost-your-immune-system.com/systemic-candida.html
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PHR1, a pH-regulated gene of Candida albicans, is required for morphogenesis. [My paper] S M Saporito-Irwin, C E Birse, P S Sypherd, W A Fonzi Department of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics, California College of Medicine, University of California, Irvine 92717. Candida albicans, like many fungi, exhibits morphological plasticity, a property which may be related to its biological capacity as an opportunistic pathogen of humans.
Morphogenesis and alterations in cell shape require integration of many cellular functions and occur in response to environmental signals, most notably pH and temperature in the case of C. albicans. In the course of our studies of differential gene expression associated with dimorphism of C. albicans, we have isolated a gene, designated PHR1, which is regulated in response to the pH of the culture medium. PHR1 expression was repressed at pH values below 5.5 and induced at more alkaline pH. The predicted amino acid sequence of the PHR1 protein was 56% identical to that of the Saccharomyces cerevisiae Ggp1/Gas1 protein, a highly glycosylated cell surface protein attached to the membrane via glycosylphosphatidylinositol. A homozygous null mutant of PHR1 was constructed and found to exhibit a pH-conditional morphological defect. At alkaline pH, the mutant, unlike the parental type, was unable to conduct apical growth of either yeast or hyphal growth forms. This morphological aberration was not associated with defective cytoskeletal polarization or secretion. The results suggest that PHR1 defines a novel function required for apical cell growth and morphogenesis.
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I had a root canal then a severe sinus infection ( never had one before) Then hypothyroid turned to hyperthyroid then BC.
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Claire82, Was this over a long or short course of time?
It's interesting about your sinus infection. Do you think they are related?
When I went to the dentist, he told me my sinus cavity is basically sitting right on top of my root canal. Since I had no pain, he asked if I had any sinus drainage into my throat, which would indicate possible infection higher up. I had noticed drainage and it seemed weird to me because I hadn't been "sick".
I am looking forward to getting the tooth out to see if I feel any better. My health has improved drastically over the past year but I still have occassional bouts of fatigue. He is consulting with an orthodontist to see about trying to pull my other molars forward to fill the gap that will be left. I wasn't keen on an implant because of the metals and he doesn't like bridges because you have to cut into the teeth on each side to make it fit. I cant believe I'm saying I'm looking forward to going to the dentist!!
BTW, what a beautiful little blondie.
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Barry, I just read through you last posts. Really interesting. To me this all just solidifies the the theory.
You wrote: I've been thinking in regard to fungi being cancer. It doesn't matter that much. For me, they are one in the same...and if they are different...does it matter? They are both deadly.
You are right and we should treat it like we have either or both. The thing that matters to me though is that everyone will someday see cancer for what it really is, a fungal infection. Then it can be treated as such. No more dismembering and toxic treatments or throwing away our life savings to fight it.
I have ordered a book on clinical mycology. I found it used so I got a pretty good price. The one I really wanted was $500!! So I settled. But this one appears to have some really good information. I'm still curious as to why pathologists cant see it. I got a glimpse of some of the pages and now I see why!! OMG, it's so complicated. At the time of the writing of the book, fewer than 500 (500? that's alot!) species have been associated with human disease and no more than 100 are capable of causing infection in otherwise normal humans. The remainder are only able to produce disease in the debilitated or immunocompromised. Basically, the fungi kingdom has been broken down into 4 groups, each group consists of as little as 100 different genera and 1000 different species (in the first group) to as many as 3200 genera and 32,000 species (in the fourth group).
Diagnosis of an infection relies on physical observations and symptoms of the patient, then laboratory tests to confirm. Because these infections manifest themselves in so many ways, they sometimes have to "guess" at the diagnosis then have it confirmed by the lab. But thats where it gets crazy. The lab must be told what to look for in order to use the proper stainings and chemical washings, etc. If they aren't looking for a specific suspect fungi, they wont find it! This explains the article about the nurse being diagnosed with leukemia then told she had a fungal infection. The original doctors weren't looking for fungi so they didn't tell the lab to check for it. On the second diagnosis, the doctors suspected it and told the lab what to look for and...well we know the rest.
Cant wait to get the book! My DH thinks I'm weird because "that's got to be the most boring book in the whole world" and I'm excited to read it. LOL
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Impositive...You're going to have to post all that you're learning from the book. The study of fungi is fancinating. When out and about, I'll get a thought or question about the fungus/cancer connection and come home and google the question, which leads to more questions. I post some of what I'm reading because I think it's paramount that this subject and info is out there. Plus, now that I am seeing that fungi is our overall problem or health enemy, I'm changing the way I see disease and how to keep ourselves fungus free...cancer free.
Presently I strongly lean toward cancer being fungus, I'm searching out information to confirm it so. It's important I have all the facts behind the belief that fungus is the culpret because knowing if cancer is truly fungus would mean how cancer is treated (especially if I'm or a loved one is dx with C).
If cancer is a fungus, I would not choose chemo...because along with chemo comes a compromised immunity which causes candida overgrowth. And if cancer is fungus than you do not want to do anything that's going to cause the cancer/fungus to proliferate.
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Julia, Crunchy...thinking about you as you prepare for your upcoming mx on December 8th.
Love and Prayers
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Barry and impositive, thanks once again for all the research you've done on this (and I definitely look forward to hearing what you learn from that "boring book"! LOL)... this is all really eye-opening.
Barry, it's actually now scheduled for Dec. 15... ("for real" this time!) Thank you so much!
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ROCHESTER, MINN. - Mayo Clinic researchers say they have found the cause of most chronic sinus infections - an immune system response to fungus. They say this discovery opens the door to the first effective treatment for this problem, the most common chronic disease in the United States; Fungal Sinusitis.
An estimated 37 million people in the United States suffer from chronic sinusitis, an inflammation of the membranes of the nose and sinus cavity. Its incidence has been increasing steadily over the last decade. Common sinus infection symptoms are runny nose, nasal congestion, loss of smell and headaches. Frequently the chronic inflammation leads to polyps, small growths in the nasal passages which hinder breathing.
"Up to now, the cause of chronic sinusitis has not been known," say the Mayo researchers: Drs. David Sherris, Eugene Kern and Jens Ponikau , Mayo Clinic ear, nose and throat specialists. Their report appears in the September issue of the journal Mayo Clinic Proceedings.
"Fungus allergy was thought to be involved in less than ten percent of cases," says Dr. Sherris. "Our studies indicate that, in fact, fungus is likely the cause of nearly all of these problems. And it is not an allergic reaction, but an immune reaction."
The researchers studied 210 patients with chronic sinusitis. Using new methods of collecting and testing mucus from the nose, they found that 96 percent of the patients' had a fungal sinus infection. They identified a total of 40 different kinds of fungi in these patients, with an average of 2.7 kinds per patient.
Medications haven't worked for fungal sinusitis because we didn't know what the cause of the problem was," says Dr. Ponikau. "Finally we are on the trail of a treatment that may actually work."http://www.silversinus.com/mayo-clinic-chronic-sinus-infection-fungus.html
WOULDN'T THIS BE GREAT IF THEY FOUND THE CAUSE OF CANCER...iT COULD BE RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE
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One of my students is suffering with sinus infections. She is on constant antibiotics. I mentioned to her mother that there could be a fungus infection and taking antibiotics could be half the problem. I said I would bring her information on this...and this is why I'm posting some of the info here as well...seeing a connection to what the discussion is here on the fungus theory and cancer.
Sinus Infections and the Candida Yeast Infection Connection
There are two ways to get fungal sinus infections. The first is simply by breathing in fungus (most commonly Aspergillius) and mold spores from the air. They are abundantly present in the environment and will attach to trapped nasal mucus when sinuses are swollen from allergies or bacterial sinus infections.
The second way is connected to overgrowth of "bad" bacteria in our gut - "Candida albicans" - causing "Candidiasis", a rapidly growing yeast infection.
When the delicate balance of our "good" and "bad" intestinal bacteria is upset (see our antibiotics page), our body is then primed for candida yeast infections. The good bacteria can be killed off by one or more of these factors:frequent or high-dose antibiotics and anti-inflammatories chemotherapy for cancer auto-immune diseases like AIDS, arthritis and muscular deterioration diseases high stress and low cortisol (cortisol is the body's stress response secretion)
In the absence of good bacteria, the bad bacteria, normally present in controllable amounts, can "explode" in number.
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Barry, great findings! You know, polyps are mentioned in that first article because of the fungal infection of the sinuses. My mother-in-law (and I'm sure many others) have had polyps discovered when they have colonoscopys. She was told this was indication of a pre-cancerous condition and they advised her to have more frequent colonoscopys (sp?). If fungus can cause polyps in the sinus, why cant it be the same in the colon? Why is it considered pre-cancer and not fungus there?
you wrote: WOULDN'T THIS BE GREAT IF THEY FOUND THE CAUSE OF CANCER...iT COULD BE RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSE
LOL, that's brilliant!!! and maybe if they didn't have there heads up their a$$, they could see those polyps for what they really are!
Copied from your post: The researchers studied 210 patients with chronic sinusitis. Using new methods of collecting and testing mucus from the nose, they found that 96 percent of the patients' had a fungal sinus infection. They identified a total of 40 different kinds of fungi in these patients, with an average of 2.7 kinds per patient.
Medications haven't worked for fungal sinusitis because we didn't know what the cause of the problem was," KNOW THE CAUSE!This is just what I was referring to. Once they figured out what they were looking for (fungi), they devised new methods of collecting and testing (labs) and wallah! 96% of the cases were fungi-40 different kinds with an average of 2.7 in each patient.
When the delicate balance of our "good" and "bad" intestinal bacteria is upset (see our antibiotics page), our body is then primed for candida yeast infections.
SO all the things we've been told that cause cancer (chemicals, pesticides, etc) do indeed but not because they themselves are carcinogenic but because they overwhelm our immune system so fungi can then take over.
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impositive...I met a woman tonight (at a art exhibit) who has been listening to Kaufmann for 5 years! She is also a bc surviver. I would love to pick her brain. I suggested she join our fungus theory thread.
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What would be the cure for a fungal infection of the sinuses?
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Impositive - this for me has been over the last 5 years. I have also had pain in my mouth that no one knew the cause of - still have it and my smell and taste were bad before chemo - i thought because of the sinus infection - and made worse after chemo. I've had cat scans and mri and all tell me that there is nothing causing the problem - maybe i'm depressed is what they say
im going to see a naturopath in a couple of weeks
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You know what's kind of odd? I've been taking probiotics for the past couple of weeks. I'm smelling things slightly better. How many of these a day can we take?
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Claire82, Are you taking tablets? Dr Ohiras? You can take as much as 5-10 a day of them even though the dosage is two per day. You can't over do the good bacteria. They have a special coating so that they survive the stomach acid and make it to the intestines where you typically need thm but if you are having problems like gas, bloating, heartburn, etc., you can chew one as well so that you get some of the bacteria in the stomach.
Doesn't make you angry that the docs say that your problems are pretty much in your head? Depression doesn't cause mouth pain and sinus infections! Geez!
My family uses a nasal spray from Seagate. It's made from olive leaf extract, an all natural antifungal. This is a great company. I use their Smooth Skin product on my face, love it. They have a throat spray, a nasal spray, pediatric earache drops, vaginal spray (yeast infections). I keep the nasal spray and throat spray on hand at all times. I also use an antifungal for skin irritations like athletes foot, etc. Here's the link.
http://www.seagateproducts.com/olive-leaf-nasal-spray.html
I think you can go to their home page an get a code for free shipping.
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im not taking dr. ohiras yet
i have to order
i have another brand
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I've been reading this thread without anything to add until now. Barry, I've had bad problems with post nasal drip for a very long time. Now I'm wondering if I have fungus in there. I get some relief from using a netti pot, but I really dislike it and use it only when I feel extremely congested.
Then last night I was watching a video interview with Cass Ingram, and he was talking about fungus and how it mimics a lot of disease symptoms. The solution he offers for combatting fungus is oregano oil.
http://renegadehealth.com/blog/2010/12/08/what-do-you-use-oregano-oil-for/
Y'all might find this interview interesting and informative also.
ps, I've also been wondering what y'all think about using mushrooms either medicinally or as a food. Cass Ingram seems very knowledgeable about the ill effects of fungus, yet he also advocates using chaga mushrooms to promote health.
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althea - I have been reading about oregano oil all day!!! It sounds wonderful to me. One site said to use it only if it comes from the Mediterranian. I was also reading about stabilized oxygen. Both are for fungus problems.
Patty
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Althea, I was wondering about oregano oil as I read this thread. I never have gastro-intestinal problems, but after my last surgery, I had something like a week's worth of diarrhea (yuck), off and on. I kept eating yogurt hoping that would get me back on track, but it didn't make much of a difference. Finally I took a few drops of oregano oil in some water. Almost immediately, my GI problems cleared right up, and didn't bother me again.
I know that doesn't have to do with fungus, but a lot of natural substances that are naturally antimicrobial are also antifungal etc. Oregano oil kept popping up into my head throughout this thread but I hadn't had time to research it... thanks for posting that link!
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Althea, Thanks for the link. I love Cass Ingram. He's not your typical doctor, I think that's why I like him . There's a company called Bioactive Nutrients that has a very potent Oil of Oregano but I'm a baby when it comes to taking something that tastes bad. I've never thought of it being in tablet form although that's how I take my olive leaf extract (another anti-microbial). It' also interesting about the lymphatics how he said to rub it on. I guess I'm getting some of that oil!
I wish I understood more about mushrooms. Experts on fungus seem to have different views on this subject. It would appear medicinal mushrooms have some beneficial qualities as they've been used for centuries. Maybe it's kind of like antibiotics (which are derived from fungus), they can kill bad bacteria and have helped lots of people but they also have their negative effects in that they kill our good bacteria setting us for other life threatening issues.
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Coconut oil has been known to be an extremely potent anti-fungal against Candida. Many people report feeling better within weeks of taking it to control Candida. In tropical countries where people eat more coconut, Candida infections are extremely rare, even though the conditions in these countries support the growth of Candida.
Coconut oil contains a high amount of lauric and caprylic acid which have powerful antimicrobial, antiviral and antifungal properties. They target the harmful Candida yeast in your body, and leave the good bacteria alone. This helps promote and balance in digestive flora, and heals the body at the same time.
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althea, hey, in the start of this thread, I knew very little about the fungus theory. Because of my recent candida stuggle, I've research enough beforehand to see that it could very well be the crux of diseases. The naysayers encouraged me to look further into this subject matter. Again, it's been a fancinating study. So...put your questions to google, and you will have more information than you can imagine to bring to this thread. We've barely scratched the surface. For me, once one question is answered, another pops up.
Post nasal drip is when fungal sinusitis or the sinus cavities become inflamed due to inhaled fungi. For years I assumed my post nasal drip was allergy to cats, dust or other allergens. These may also be a factor to post nasal drip...not sure?
The way to rid yourself of post nasal drip is first to build up your immune system, pro-biotics and yeast free diet. There are also anti-fungal herbs and foods to take as well. I read that punkins skins are anit-fungal.
Salt can prevent sinus problems in the first place. Combine ½ teaspoon of salt (or ½ teaspoon salt and ½ teaspoon baking soda) in a cup of lukewarm water and use this mixture in a sterile eyedropper or neti pot.
Rinse your nasal passages twice a day until the infection clears-or whenever you feel sinus pain starting up again. If your throat is sore too, gargle with warm salt water.
Many aromatherapy oils-eucalyptus, oregano, tea tree, and thyme-are antifungal. Pau D Arco tea is anti fungal.
SRESS...is also a huge factor in breaking down our immune system. If we do everything right, and live in a flight & fright mode most of the time, our efforts to stay well maybe useless.
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