The Fungal Theory
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So interesting about chia -- thanks! I always put it in my yogurt/blueberry/flax mixture, not even knowing the nutritional benefits, but just because I like the texture it adds. I bet chia sprouts would be full of nutrients too (and I laughed so hard at the whole chia pet thing! LOL).
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Wow Victoria, wish we had some of that here! I dont eat bread or pasta made of grains but maybe I could eat the chia products.
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Barry, I think that if they dont know the cause of something and they know no cure, it's probably fungus. Maybe your outbreaks have slowed because you've made some changes.
Kaufmann's webcast is live. You see him and listen in or call in and speak with him. I wish I could record it because I'm not able to catch it most times either.
As far as measles and mumps, I dont know about those being related, I've never really studied up on them.
I've often wondered about completely eradicating fungus or just sending it into remission as well. I haven't come to a solid conclusion on that. I just know that if we send it there (remission), we can keep it there by following a healthy lifestyle.
Here's a link to today's show Know the Cause. It was really interesting because he is talking about what we've been talking about here as far as how fungal cells and human cells are alike and also how they get into our bodies. Pretty interesting...It's a 30 minute show so you may not want to take the time to watch it all but the part I'm talking about is within the first segment.
Also if you have time while you're there, click on the name Don Pruitt on the left under testimonials.
http://knowthecause.com/WatchTheShow/tabid/55/articleType/CategoryView/categoryId/181/Tuesday.aspx
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Thanks for all the suggestions ladies! In all my reading about fungus and yeast I found out that being on HRT (11 years of the crap!) causes yeast problems so I know I'm full of it. I'm having a colonoscopy done in a few weeks. Is that a good colon cleanse? I know it cleans you out but how good is that Miralax? Also I'm suppose to mix it with Gatorade or Crystal Light, ewwww! I don't want all that sugar of other stuff. Any suggestions on something more healthy?
impostive - if you don't eat grains or pasta just what do you eat? I am trying to gain weight and have been eating bread and pasta. Any suggestions on how to gain weight??? Eating healthy and gaining weight seems impossible!!!!
Thanks! Patty
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seaotter - i wish i had to gain weight lol
try bananas
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Claire - I am eating a banana as I type!!! I just wish a few bananas would put 20 lbs on me!
Patty
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I am new to this discussion board and am finding it very interesting. I have suffered on and off for years with very bad vaginal yeast infections. About 15 years ago I read a book on candidas and it being systemic. I tried to talk to my doctor at the time and was blown off. Since that time I have tried to talk to another dr and was blown off. Several years ago I moved and found a GYNO that I really like and had another one of my ranging vag yeast infections and she treated me with diflucan and I was fine for a couple of years. This last Feb I had another raging yeast infection and she treated me with a double round of diflucan and then wanted to see me to follow up. Between the treatment and my visit I noticed that I had had a patch on my lower back that I thought was dry skin and I would scrub and put lotion on it and it never got any better. After diflucan it went away. So when I went to see the dr. I told her about it. She told me that she was convinced that my yeast infections were systemic and that I had had it for a long time and I won't into all detail TMi and gross but she recommended a bood for me to read and I told her I bought it 15 years ago and no dr would talk to me about it. I have reread to book and have cut sugar out of my diet. My husband is allergic to wheat so that is cut out of our diet also. So my yeast infection was treated in Feb 2010 and I went for my yearly mammo in July and started my wild goose chase to being diag in Sept with BC. Makes you wonder if there is a connection. A little history 15 years ago was when I starting thinking I had yeast problems. 13 years ago was my first breast biopsy that was benign but started my breast disease problems. Think there is a connection???? makes you wonder.
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Anyone have a recepi for chia bread (without sugars or white flour)?
Patty...when I had a colonocopy...it was only a watery drink...no sugar. It wasn't a pleasant drink. I consider it a colon cleanse. Give your stomach a clean start with a yeast free diet, and good probiotics.
How does HRT cause yeast infections? I've read a little about it, but haven't taken the step to try it.
Gaining weight...I understand. I'm hypothyroid and I'm struggling now with gaining weight! I lost 26 pounds this summer (mostly in Sept). I'm eating well now, and I haven't gained but a few pounds back. Banna's are suppose to be good for gaining weight. Fruit juicing is also a weight gainer. This man said to me when purchasing a juicer that by juicing I would gain weight. And that was before I wanted to gain weight!
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Sherry..I've read that diflucan is really hard on your liver. I also read that it doesn't permanently get rid of the yeast. What I understand yeast can go into remission until the enviorment is ripe for it to rear up its ugly head. And it doesn't work well without a yeast free diet! You need to take something to breaks down the fungi cell walls. Also taking a good probiotic would help. From what I'm learning systemic fungi is almost impossible to eradicate. In my opinion...most people probably have a form of systemic fungus infection. Keeping our immune system healthy, and controling yeast is a must to staying healthy and disease free. Fungus is serious...and can be deadly!
I want to add here that my mouth infection began when I began using mouth wash that killed the good bacteria in my mouth. While brushing with an electric toothbrush, I cut into my gums that caused an infection. I went to the dentist and he gave me antibiotics that made the infection worse. After it worsen, I was given more antibiotics and a prescription mouth wash. The infection spread to the whole right side of my mouth. My doc suspected I had oral cancer. This one mouth sores laster about 3 months. I went to a ENT, who dx me with acid refulux which wasn't a problem. In May, I suspected the problem to be yeast. Before this I knew very little about yeast infections...After dropping sugar for a month, and probiotics, I still had mouth sores and continue to lose weight. I feared cancer. I dropped my doctor and went to a Nurse Practioner. I discover the problem was H Pylori. I was given 2 weeks of 2 different antibiotics. My mouth became a mess..mouth rot basically, beginnings of a black hairy tongue, and sores.After eradication of H Pylori my problems worsen. I went to a gastrologist who thought it had to be AIDS. I knew it wasn't AIDS. I began searching the Internet looking for a cure. Everything came back to my problem being a yeast infection. I went on the yeast free diet, anti-fungal supplements, Pau D Arco tea and my mouth problem clear up. The doctors said...STOP LOOKING TO THE INTERNET FOR ANSWERS. Thank God for the Internet!
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Barry--thanks for the info I do take probiotics for the yeast and I do not eat bread as my husband is allergic to wheat and the gluten free breads are not all that great, even when I bake them myself so we just do not eat yeast bread of any kind. I don't eat sugar. I use to drink beer but noticed that it created a yeast problem with me so I gave that up also. I think I pretty much have a yeast free diet now.
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According to the University of Michigan Health System, pineapples are high in the proteolytic enzyme bromelain, which is found in the stems of pineapples, fruit, and freshly-squeezed juice. Bromelain is an anti-inflammatory <-- [LEAKY GUT CANDIDIASIS] agent, and aids digestion by enhancing the effects of the digestive enzymes trypsin and pepsin, as reported by World Health. Bromelain is also a natural anticoagulant, and assists with blood clotting problems. The enzyme bromelain also thins mucous, which may be helpful for those suffering from respiratory congestion or asthma <---- [ SINUS INFECTION/CANDIDA], as reported by World Healt
GREAT SOURCES: BROMELAIN, PAPAYAN, AND GINGER... -
Great smoothie...1 whole small avocodo, or 1/2 large avocodo, 1 half can (or use the whole can) of coconut milk (good kind) ... 1 C of ice, 1/4 C of water ... fill up the blender with organic raw spinich. Go Green! One glass fills you up. I lived on this when I was on my candida diet.
The potent anti-viral, anti-fungal and anti-microbial effects of coconut oil have implicated it in the treatment of both AIDS and candida. Whatever bad things you may have heard or read about coconut milk have not stood up to scrutiny by unbiased food scientists; however, the goodness of coconut milk has not been given equal press because of intensive lobbying against it by the powerful vegetable oil industry. Southeast Asians, meanwhile, have been staying healthy for generations with coconut an integral part of their diet http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/ingredients/cocmilk.html
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Impostive...Thank you...I watched the link. Good information...just not sure if I like the commercial interruptions.
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barry : You can buy chia flour rather than white...and instead of using sugar you can supplement with honey.
http://glutenfreecooking.about.com/od/glutenfreecookingbasics/gr/reviewchiaflour.htm
http://nuchiafoods.com/recipes/
Here are some interesting chia recipes from "Natural News" you might like.
http://www.naturalnews.com/022468.html
I'm going to try the Banana-nut Bread, and Chia Fresca - Looks easy enough.
Victoria
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Honey? Can we use honey? Every cell in our body needs sugar. It would be nice to think there is something sweet we could eat without it feeding yeast. Thanks Victoria. I'm definately going to look up these recepies
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Top 10 Myco-toxic Foods ... another list
1. Alcoholic beverages-
2.Corn-Corn is "universally contaminated" with fumonisin and other fungal toxins such as aflatoxin, zearalenone and ochratoxin. Fumonisin and aflatoxin are known for their cancer-causing effects, while zearalenone and ochratoxin cause estrogenic and kidney-related problems, respectively. Just as corn is universally contaminated with mycotoxins, our food supply seems to be universally contaminated with corn-it's everywhere! A typical chicken nugget at a fast food restaurant consists of a nugget of corn-fed chicken that is covered by a corn-based batter that is sweetened with corn syrup!
3,Wheat-Not only is wheat often contaminated with mycotoxins, but so are the products made from wheat, like breads, cereals, pasta, etc. Pasta may be the least offensive form of grains since certain water-soluble mycotoxins, such as deoxynivalenol (vomitoxin), are partially removed and discarded when you toss out the boiling water that you cooked the pasta in. Unfortunately, traces of the more harmful, heat-stable and fat-soluble mycotoxins, such as aflatoxin, remain in the grain. Regarding breads-it probably doesn't matter if it's organic, inorganic, sprouted, blessed or not-if it came from a grain that has been stored for months in a silo, it stands the chance of being contaminated with fungi and mycotoxins.
4.Barley-Similar to other grains that can be damaged by drought, floods and harvesting and storage processes, barley is equally susceptible to contamination by mycotoxin-producing fungi. Barley is used in the production of various cereals and alcoholic beverages.
5.Sugar-Not only are sugar cane and sugar beets often contaminated with fungi and their associated fungi, but they, like the other grains, fuel the growth of fungi. Fungi need carbohydrates-sugars-to thrive.
6.Sorghum-Sorghum is used in a variety of grain-based products intended for both humans and animals. It is also used in the production of alcoholic beverages.
7.Peanuts-A 1993 study demonstrated 24 different types of fungi that colonized the inside of the peanuts used in the report. And this was after the exterior of the peanut was sterilized! So, when you choose to eat peanuts, not only are you potentially eating these molds, but also their mycotoxins. Incidentally, in the same study the examiners found 23 different fungi on the inside of corn kernels. That said, if you choose to plant your own garden in an attempt to avoid mycotoxin contamination of corn or peanuts, it does you no good if the seed (kernel) used to plant you garden is already riddled with mold.
8.Rye
9.Cottonseed-Cottonseed is typically found in the oil form (cottonseed oil), but is also used in the grain form for many animal foods. Many studies show that cottonseed is highly and often contaminated with mycotoxins.
10.Hard Cheeses-Here's a hint: if you see mold growing throughout your cheese, no matter what you paid for it, there's a pretty good chance that there's a mycotoxin not far from the mold. It is estimated that each fungus on Earth produces up to three different mycotoxins. The total number of mycotoxins known to date numbers in the thousands. On the other hand, some cheeses, like Gouda cheese, are made with yogurt-type cultures, like Lactobacillus, and not fungi. These cheeses are a much healthier alternative, fungally speaking.
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Barry, I know you've shared that story before, but I am just blown away at how clueless doctors can be. Like someone said, that show "Mystery Diagnosis" really highlights that too. (I saw one episode recently where a woman had PCOS... I knew within five minutes she had PCOS... but it took four or five doctors and years of suffering before anyone could figure that out!! But no, we have to stop looking to the Internet for answers!!!
) Anyway, I am so sorry that you had to go through all that before getting to the root of the problem. It actually infuriates me that you had trained medical professionals guessing oral cancer and AIDS!! Good grief!!!
Re: that list of myco-toxic foods, I can live without all of those (I stopped consuming corn -- including packaged/processed foods and non-grass-fed animal products -- over a year ago and haven't missed it), but cheese... ahhh, it's hard to imagine life without cheese! I wonder if goat cheese is myco-toxic. I can live without cheeses like cheddar and blue cheese, but I'd be very sad if I had to give up goat cheese. (I love gouda, so that's good to know!)
About alcohol - again, I could live without it (red wine is the only kind I sometimes miss), but... hmm... I wonder if a few drops of iodine (natural anti-fungal) in the wine would kill the myco-toxins before you drank it?
BTW, I was feeling crappy this morning and just couldn't get going... I decided I was craving coconut milk (I used some in last night's stir-fry)... so I poured some of what was left into a glass and drank it. Mmm, SO good, and I felt better right away. Love me some coconut milk (the pure kind, not the kind that's been screwed with) and coconut oil!!
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seaotter said: if you don't eat grains or pasta just what do you eat? I am trying to gain weight and have been eating bread and pasta. Any suggestions on how to gain weight???
I eat;
Virtually all meats (fish, poultry, beef -grass fed.) Real eggs, (of the following, organic grass fed is best) butter, yogurt, cream cheese, goat cheese, real whipping cream (I sweeten with stevia, mmmm!) and real sour cream. Most vegetables and their fresh juices. (remember corn is a grain!) No grains.(pasta, rice, corn, wheat etc.) No yeast products. No alcohol. No sugar! The only sweetener I use is stevia. Nuts and nut butters (Except peanuts!) No fruits except the low sugar ones. (lemons, limes,berries, grapefruit) No fruit juices as that's concentrated fruit sugars! Oils-Olive, grape or flax seed, virgin coconut (cold pressed is best.) Unpasteurized apple cider vinegar.
If you are trying to gain weight, you can also eat legumes (beans and peas). Quinoa is actually a seed, not a grain so I think that would be fine as well. You can have it for breakfast, sweetened with a little stevia and some berries and nuts or cooked in some broth as a side with your dinner, etc.
For those of us that have regained our health we can slowly add in those things as well as yams, oatmeal, amaranth, millet, buckwheat, barley, flour tortillas, sourdough bread and in moderation! Add them slowly and see how each makes you feel. If they make you feel bad then you know you shouldn't be eating it.
I know bananas, pineapple, fruit juice, etc. are good for us and healthy people can probably have them and be fine. But those are two of the highest sugar content fruits we can eat and fruit juice is just concentrated sugar. Honey is great because it has natural enzymes to help break down the sugar but it's still sugar. Right now sugar (of any kind) is my enemy so I try to stay away from it as much as possible, at least until I'm well.
sherryc, Welcome! Sounds like you definitely have been plagued with yeast! I wonder...have you been on a lot of antibiotics? Maybe sometime prior to when your yeast infections began? Also, some might not agree but I believe yeast can be passed back and forth (intimacy). The man may not have symptoms but may still have the yeast and the yeast on them likes nothing more than our moist 96.6 degree environment! So it may help both of you to try to erradicate the yeast.
It's so infuriating that doctors blow off the yeast thing! Sounds like you have a good Gyno though. I know Barry mentioned that she heard Diflucan can harm the liver. That is what doctors will tell you but there are people who have taken it for more than a year with no harm to their liver. Of course something natural is always best but I think there may be times we need to bring out the big guns and cancer on one of those. Think of all the other drugs they are willing to prescribe that are detrimental to our health and they have nooo problem with those. Btw, I definitely think there's a connection.
Barry, Thanks for the smoothie recipe. As soon as I get some avacados, I have to give that try. Sounds wonderful!!!!!!!
Crunchy, I'm with you on the wine. Only I like white. I had to laugh when I read your post because you dont know how many times I've wondered if I could get around the fungus like that too! Unfortunately, a mycotoxin (poison) is a metabolite of the yeast/fungus. The fungus could be long gone but the poisons they leave behind aren't "living" so you cant kill them with an antifungal. We would just have to have our glass of wine and then cleanse!
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impositive--I took daily antibiotics as a teenager for acne. I am sure that is where it started.
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sherryc, Me too, I would bet the farm that's where it all started!
Hey, I see you're from Texas. Are you familiar with Doug Kaufmann? He's out of Rockwall TX.
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Impostive...today a friend's daughter, visiting from the East Coast, who is a pharmasecal oncologist said that tamoxifen is low grade chemo. So...is chemo a fungus killer? Is tamoxifen a fungus killer?
I believe she was a part of a program that approved phrarmasecual drugs. She said in one study all the women dx with cancer actually didn't have cancer. The study was rejected. Maybe, when they further checked out the women's pathology, they saw it was fungus? I wish I had more time to talk with this women. Very interesting person.
I also shared with her about the fungus/cancer theory. She was intrigued.
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Due to another discussion on another thread in regard to tamoxifen and estrogen...I decided to do a little more research on estrogen/tamoxifen ... and I came across this article. Why, would tamoxifen be the cause of a more agressive cancer if tamoxifen is antifungal?
The lead researcher, Christopher Li, M.D., Ph.D., at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center seemed more apologetic than anything in quotes from his press release, almost embarrassed to publish the results for fear of professional backlash. This position reflects the extreme pressure researchers find themselves in when they publish studies that would cause almost any woman to not take Tamoxifen.
Dr. Li’s fear is testament to the sickness that pervades the medical community’s use of drugs. His study is unlikely to change any prescribing practices in America, as short-sighted doctors will decide in their own minds that the benefits of Tamoxifen outweigh the risks – even when the data says it doesn’t. In essence, his data is not welcome.
In 2002, in my book Mastering Leptin, I pointed out the ridiculousness of using Tamoxifen for breast cancer prevention. At that time it was clear that Tamoxifen increased leptin levels, thus provoking an increase in inflammation that causes increased cancer risk. Due to this, women on Tamoxifen are likely to gain weight, thus inducing insulin resistance (and IGF1 confusion in breast tissue), which again leads to increased risk for another breast cancer. Tamoxifen also causes fatty liver congestion, increased risk for endometrial cancer, vaginal bleeding and discharge, major circulatory adverse events, and hot flashes.
Read more: http://www.articlesbase.com/diseases-and-conditions-articles/tamoxifen-shockingly-found-to-cause-aggressive-breast-cancer-1199741.html#ixzz1713CEdvY
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Barry, Here is a link regarding Tamoxifen being an antifungal.
Interesting article you posted with regards to tamoxifen. Just one more reason I dont want their drugs!
Here's my take, though just a layman's guess. Tamoxifen, an antifungal, is used as an adjuvant therapy. Fungi has the ability (like bacteria) to become resistant to therapies, if taken long enough. So just like bacteria and antibiotics, we are creating a superbug, if you will. It's the same with fungi and that's why sometimes women taking Taxoxifen are getting a bigger angrier type of fungal infection. This is why they tell us to rotate our antifungals!
Edit- Sorry...that link takes you to the second page of the article. You can just arrow back once you get there to read the entire article.
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Impositive...ok...if tamoxifin is a anti fungal drug...then perhaps it's safe to take it for a few months. Once the fungi is eradicated, stop taking it. Taking it for a length of time causes a superbug effect.
And from what the oncologist pharmaphist said today...tamoxifin is a light form of chemo. Is chemo a strong antifungal drug?
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Barry,
"Chemo" may be antifungal because it is also anti-life. They are poisons that kill everything in their path including human cells.
There are better ways to fight fungus.
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I ran across an article today that I found interesting. It doesn't necessarily pertain to the fungal theory but to alternatives in cancer treatment. It's lengthy but a good read.
The title - The Man Who Questions Chemotherapy : Dr. Ralph Moss
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cause of Leaky Gut Syndrome ...why you may have a difficult time ridding yourself of candida!
Our intestinal lining replaces itself approximately every 24 hours. This means that every cell that the lining is composed of is digested or sloughed off, and a new one grows to take its place. All this activity means the gut uses more blood when it is resting than any other organ but it is also the first to lose its blood supply when in a fight or flight situation, which is what stress is. If you have a lot of stress then your gut will always be starved for blood and the lining will be impaired.
The key and most common cause of Leaky Gut is Candida. Candida is a yeast-fungal organism that grows roots like a plant. These roots grow into and through your intestinal tract looking for food. These roots break through the intestinal lining and cause the leaky gut!Removing Candida can often help Leaky Gut; removing Candida often does not heal the Leaky Gut unto itself. And if the person and the Doctor continue to treat the Candida they get no improvement because what they should be treating is the Leaky Gut!
Acidophillus Makes me Sick!
When one has Leaky Gut they lose their "Mucin Layer' Mucins protect your intestinal cells and act like a barrier similar to wax on your car or wood floor. When the Mucin layer is gone due to Leaky Gut you may react allergicly to Acidophilus. If Acidophilus makes you bloat, gas, itch, or gives you rashes, hives, flu symptoms and allergy reactions you may have Leaky Gut Syndrome.are only some of the autoimmune disorders that are all treated very effectively when a leaky gut is healed. The inflammation caused by Leaky Gut Syndrome also damages the protective coating of Mucins in the intestinal tract. Mucins are a protective barrier
similar to the wax on ones floor.
Damage also occurs to the antibodies of the IgA family (immunoglobins) normally present in a healthy gut. The IgA's help our body to ward off infections, however, a leaky gut causes considerable damage to the immune system (IgA's) and makes us less resistant to viruses, bacteria's, parasites, toxic materials, metals and candida.
Another problem a leaky gut creates is a mineral deficiency because the inflammatory processes damage the damage that happens to the carrier proteins, which are needed for, transport of specific minerals. For example, a magnesium deficiency that is present in most Fibromyalgia patients. This patient can take incredibly high doses of magnesium, however, if the carrier protein for this mineral is damaged, no matter how much of the mineral you take, it will not get into the body where it is needed. This can also be true for some bone disorders. Even a zinc deficiency, which will affect hair loss and some eye disorders (macular degeneration). Copper deficiency can also occur this way, which can lead to Osteoarthritis or even elevated blood cholesterol in some cases. For any syndrome that could be connected to a mineral deficiency, or exhibits symptoms that don't seem to go away no matter what you do, you should
consider the possibility of a leaky gut.
Healing Leaky Gut
In order to heal Leaky Gut we must first disinfect the intestines of all the infections we can cause or prevent the gut from healing. In 1990 I began to describe the new approach to Candida. The new approach 1st eliminated parasites and the top layers of Candida, the used natural killers to destroy the candida throughout the body. The killers are taken on a 4-day rotation so that the candida will not become immune to them. The next step is to destroy the Candida deep in the lining of intestines where it will cause Leaky Gut.
Once this is done the leaky can be healed using the Leaky Gut Protocol. There are many products made today for leaky gut syndrome today. Most contain Glutamine, MSM, zinc, essential fatty acids, intestinal protein concentrate, white fish proteins, Mucins, vitamins and minerals that help to reduce inflammation and heal the gut lining. After Leaky Gut is Healed You Can Then Take and Benefit from Acidophilus -
I am a triple negative person and I did not do chemo or rads....so I am very big on alternative methods and protocols. I investigated the fungi theory and Dr Simonici. He has some interesting ideas about Ph and cancer, but after reading the work, I do not believe cancer is a fungus....Cancer can definitely be caused by fungus, but it does not "fit the mold", pun intended, so to speak. I wonder too, if cancer was a "fungus" then leukemia would lead to solid tumors or floaters in the blood, as fungi tend to form islands....and as we know, the blood of leukemia patients does not have any floaters, no matter how microscopic.
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McBliss...I was where you are now when Impositive began this thread...where now I strongly lean toward cancer being fungus. If wrong, I am so open to changing views if someone would simply explain to me how cancer is different from fungus. I'm actually open to treatments that make sense...just can't make sense out of drugs that destroy our immunity.
The following is a story of a woman who had leukemia...ended up being a funal infection!
check the story out at http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2003/05/24/cancer-contagious.aspx (Dr. Holland's story)
I recently spoke with a nurse who was diagnosed, as an adult, with leukemia. She endured the chemotherapy regimen her doctors prescribed, only to suffer from a secondary fungal infection during that time. The intensity and duration of the antifungal treatment rivaled that of the chemotherapy. At any rate, she recovered from both afflictions and went back to work.
Later, as a result of another workup -- which included a liver biopsy -- for some returning symptoms she had, bad news was again brought up. "Your leukemia has returned," her oncologist told her, and he proceeded to lay out the next line of chemotherapy drugs she would have to take.
Given that her chances of dying were much higher now that her cancer had returned, she opted to get a second opinion on her biopsy before proceeding with her next round of chemotherapy. She took her tissue sample to another hospital, and what she was told there was absolutely stunning: "You don't have leukemia," remarked the pathologist, "what you have is a fungal infection!"
The scenario that her doctors figured was that her previous fungal infection had returned -- a total possibility. But for this nurse, more questions were raised. She thought, for example, "If they diagnosed my fungal infection as leukemia this time, is it possible that they were wrong the FIRST time? Was my leukemia really a fungal infection to begin with, and was my so-called 'secondary' fungal infection I had earlier really a full-blown manifestation of what originally might have looked like leukemia?"
Of course, she would never get answers to these questions, for to fully investigate thoughts like these might imply that a diagnostic error was made on the part of either her initial oncologist or pathologist.
Nevertheless, an intense six months later -- some of it spent in the hospital -- of high-dose, powerful antifungals finally achieved a cure for her fungal infection. Today, she is again back at work, exuding more than ever with compassion for her patients. It really struck me when she told me where she works, because in her case, her occupation may very well relate to what she had suffered over the past two years. It turns out that she works at a bone-marrow transplant center, and is in daily contact with children with leukemia.
Now, the thought of her "acquiring" something as grave as leukemia would almost be preposterous to some. But the temptation to scratch our heads and wonder about this is unbearable. What if she really did have a fungal infection -- and NOT leukemia -- her first time around? And if so, did she "catch" this from her precious little patients?
Fungal infections not only can be extremely contagious, but they also go hand in hand with leukemia -- every oncologist knows this. And these infections are devastating: once a child who has become a bone marrow transplant recipient gets a "secondary" fungal infection, his chances of living, despite all the antifungals in the world, are only 20%, at best.
And then the unthinkable thought arises: what if all of these children didn't even have leukemia, but rather a fungal infection, just as this nurse did? If doctors, in the 21st century, could mistake a fungal infection for leukemia in this nurse, could the same fate have fallen upon these children?
Doctors in general are not very good at diagnosing fungal infections because their medical school training is based so heavily on the role of bacteria and viruses in the area of infectious diseases. Fungi have been a forgotten foe ever since the advent of antibiotics. Once we had a drug that could kill bacteria, the interest in and the study of fungi fell to the wayside.
Laboratories display the same difficulty in diagnosing fungal infections: current tests for detecting the presence of fungi are both terribly scant and sorely antiquated.
Despite these training and technical inadequacies, there have been at least a few good reports that implicate the role of fungi in causing leukemia.
For example, in 1999 Meinolf Karthaus, MD, watched three different children with leukemia suddenly go into remission upon receiving a triple antifungal drug cocktail for their "secondary" fungal infections.(1)
Pre-dating that, Mark Bielski stated back in 1997 that leukemia, whether acute or chronic, is intimately associated with the yeast, Candida albicans. (2)
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MsBliss, Welcome! I get excited when someone new joins our conversation. It opens up all kinds of new insight. I wonder why you say fungus does not fit the mold. Can you explain what you mean? What do you mean by "floaters"? Are you referring to the microscopic fungi?
Not all fungi form tumors (or islands). Leukemia is probably the one cancer that medicine recognises is so intimately linked with fungus. If you type leukemia and fungus into your internet search engine you get loads of hits. I found this article by Dr David Holland that I found interesting.
http://www.loveoffering.com/fungus.htm
I agree with you, Dr Simoncini does haves some interesting ideas. We have talked on this thread about fungi's ability to morph (like bacteria) and to become resistant to treatment. That is why it (cancer/fungi) is so hard to treat. The reason Simoncini's Sodium Bicarb treatment works is because when administered directly to the tumor, the fungi dont have time to morph and are killed immediately. This just lends itself to the theory, I think.
What are your thoughts on why it doesn't fit?
Edited-Sorry it appears Barry and I posted the same article but there are so many other interesting ones if you do a search.
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- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
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- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
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- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
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- 9 The Political Corner
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- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
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- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
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- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
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