This made me angry... Am I over-reacting?

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Anne068
Anne068 Member Posts: 176
edited June 2014 in Stage I Breast Cancer

I saw this posted on Facebook...

"It's Diabetes Awareness Month. It isn't pink or sexy, it doesn't involve boobs, football players or cute t-shirts. It's about being grateful when you/your loved one wakes up in the morning. It's blood sugar checks, needles, low blood sugars and the smell of insulin on your hands...and a fear of death every day. That's a diabetic's LIFE. Re-post this...if you have or love someone with Diabetes"

Okay.. I'm all for Diabetes Awareness... one of my closest cousins had it, diagnosed when we were kids. And he recently died.  I am also sick of the pink brigade... but is it necessary in order to promote Diabetes Awareness to bash (and minimize) in my opinion.. BC awareness??

 Do I not go thru tests, treatments, surgeries? Do I not live in fear of dying EVERY DAY?  Is this not MY life?  Of course it's not "cute or sexy".. I guarantee the last thing that I feel is "cute and sexy".

I am just so angry about this.. the woman who posted it was a childhood friend..   and I don't know if I should respond, and if I should.. HOW?  Im guessing a resounding F**K YOU, would be inappropriate?

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  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2010

    Anne, you're not overreacting, but I can also see the FB poster's frustration.  Somehow the face of "Breast Cancer Awareness" has managed to lose the reality of what a breast cancer dx actually means to those of us who go through it.  This recent article from the NYTimes said it perfectly....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/magazine/14FOB-wwln-t.html

  • navygirl
    navygirl Member Posts: 886
    edited November 2010

    Anne - I saw the same thing posted on my page, and I gotta tell you, it pissed me off too! I didn't know what to say to it, except that I also thought F**CK YOU! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was a condescending AND minimized the BC awareness. Now just thinking about it, I'm ticked all over again - they could have made thier point without making it sound like we have it easy because pink is everywhere and everyone loves boobs -so we don't have it that bad!

    BITE ME B*TCH, I'd rather check my insulin that check my tumor markers, but I'd rather check my tumor markers than have my leg amputated from the effects of diabetes - so neither of these disease are anything to make light of! My uncle also died of complications from diabetes, so I know it's not glamerous or easy -but I would never minimize his struggle to try and promote awareness for mine. I thought that post was completely wrong, insensitive, and a pathetic way to draw attention to your cause!!!

    In fact, I think I'll respond with just that later tonight when I log on :)

  • DocBabs
    DocBabs Member Posts: 775
    edited November 2010

    Wayyyyyyyyyy overreacting.No one disease trumps another . If you're the one that has whatever,it's what takes over your life.I too don't feel that this was in any way downplaying or minimizing any other condition but rather calling attention to how easily one condition is associated with something as simple as the color pink.Take a deep breath and just post the damn thing , for your friend.You can ask her to walk with you on the next BC walk. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2010

    As someone who got a diabetes diagnosis in the pre-op area on the way to my mastectomy, I feel qualified to respond.

    While the facebook post was written by someone who still thinks that BC is all pink and fuzzy, F**K YOU is not an appropriate response.  A little education might be.  You might remind your "friend" that while the awareness campaign may be all pink and fun, the disease is anything but.  It is about losing your sense of self.  It is about questioning whether every cough or twinge is the beginning of metastatic disease.  It is about having to deal with that awareness campaign every year for the rest of your life when you are already painfully aware of just how much breast cancer devastates your life.

    My mother died of cardiac complications from diabetes a couple of years after an amputation.  Two and a half years later, I still haven't told my father about that diagnosis because it would worry him far more than the cancer.

  • DocBabs
    DocBabs Member Posts: 775
    edited November 2010

    I just re read the post and saw that it was not posted by a friend of yours. Be happy for those friends that don't have it and post it anyway.

  • Mouser
    Mouser Member Posts: 245
    edited November 2010

    Hmmmm ....

    As one who spends October avoiding pink *anything* (from ribbons and walks to yeast with a pink stripe on the pkg) my response would be: Be careful what you wish for! This awareness bit is not what it looks like from the outside. It doesn't do much for most of the people with the disease - and reminds exactly those who need it least. Etc. Everyone here can fill in the details....

    I agree with PatMom -- education is needed. About bc, and about marketing campaigns.

  • Anne068
    Anne068 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2010

    Ok, to clarify. We were childhood friends, and have "friended" each other on FB. But we haven't actually spoken in over 20 years!  Well, once I saw her about 10 yrs ago, it was a quick "Oh Hi! How ya been?" kinda thing.

    I understand the "sick of pink" thing. I'M sick of pink! I think it minimizes BC, I find it extremely annoying.... something I, myself, have been struggling with having been recently diagnosed, then BMX, then chemo, and in the middle of it all PINK!!!!! I've wanted to run and hide, and haven't quite decided how I feel about it!

     And that second sentence... I could have, and may have said that a million times in the past 2 mos.. It's not cute, it's not sexy, it's not about saving boobs, but saving LIVES. I have no boobs left to save!

     I don't know. I guess I just don't think that hte second sentence of her post was necessary!  That would be like us saying "Oh it's not about insulin or a shot everyday... See... we are grateful to wake up every day!  We fear dying every day! This is our life!"   Hello? This applies to BOTH diseases!

     How rude is that? BOTH diseases are horrible! Why does it have to be a competition? Why must one be minimized in order to promote the awareness of the other?  I guess that is what ticks me off.

    Or maybe I'm just having a bad day, and looking for a reason to bi*ch.. that would not be unheard of either! 

    Embarassed

  • CoolBreeze
    CoolBreeze Member Posts: 4,668
    edited November 2010

    I'm all for bashing the pink parade. The pink machine takes all kinds of marketing dollars and does nothing for us.

    But, I'm for bashing the diabetes parade too.  I don't like cause marketing at all.   It leads to corruption and false emotion.

  • navygirl
    navygirl Member Posts: 886
    edited November 2010

    Anne - it wasn't "her" post...I don't remember which of my friends posted it, but I know it's one of the viral status posts going around.

    Madalyn and Patmom, thanks for your perspectives. I, of course, know the F/U wasn't appropriate that's why I didnt' actually say it - but I do think the way this particular "awareness" post was written was not very well thought out, to say the least. October is also infant and pregnancy loss month and having just lost a premature baby in my family, I'm aware of it now -but I wasn't before. There's lots of causes that have their campaigns...so I was particularly annoyed at how they said "it isn't pink, or sexy. It doesn't involve boobs, football players or cute t-shirts". That part was unnecessary to make the point, if the point was to raise awareness.

  • sheila888
    sheila888 Member Posts: 25,634
    edited November 2010

    Someone once told me....

    OOOH Dont worry its nothing everybody is getting it now. Surprised

  • debbie6122
    debbie6122 Member Posts: 5,161
    edited November 2010

    I see your point annie, you are not overeating, but i would leave out the F/U. nothing wrong with posting any illness on FB weather it be diabetes, cancer, ms etcc... just dont use our illness to make it sound like it has been one big pink parade for us. In my opinion i would just let it go she probably dosnt even realize the impact it has on us. :)

  • navygirl
    navygirl Member Posts: 886
    edited November 2010

    LMBO @ Seyla...now I feel better :)

  • hymil
    hymil Member Posts: 826
    edited November 2010

    @Seyla Yes i had a senior guy at work tell me i was just having a midlfe crisis, hey that's great, you know i thought BC was a life-threatening disease but it seems i was wrong.. as for mid-life, having had BC, at 49 i'm thinking i may be well-past the halfway mark. But you know these docs they know everything??

    Anne i think humour is the best approach tp the facebook viral, let it wash over, and think of all those hunky footballer's boobs in their sexy little pink tee-shirts, no it really wasn't the best constructed piece if it can conjure that image for me!

  • heathermcd
    heathermcd Member Posts: 142
    edited November 2010
    Don't think your overreacting at all - I understand the breast cancer gets more attention than other diseases, but it surely isn't all about boobs and football players.  I saw this same post from a "friend" of mine and my blood instantly started boiling. I guess I should be happy to have such a "glamorous" disease. Yell
  • Susie123
    Susie123 Member Posts: 804
    edited November 2010

    You know, when I read that, it did hit me the wrong way. It was irritating, and minimizing to what we go through. But, a friend died last week of diabetes. She was 40 years old and left a 12 year old son behind, without a mom now. That's my greatest fear. Turns out, we're not so different after all.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited November 2010

    Anne, I felt the same way you did when I read what your friend had posted on her FB page: "[Diabetes] isn't pink or sexy, it doesn't involve boobs, football players or cute t-shirts."

    But, then I backed down a bit... because those of us who've had breast cancer know it isn't pink or sexy, and it doesn't really involve football players or cute t-shirts.  Boobs do participate, of course, in an involuntary but obligatory way (noting that we all could name other boobs who aren't of the anatomical variety).

    I think what your friend is railing against isn't breast cancer itself; and I really don't think the intent of her statement was to minimize what we've gone through.  What she's objecting to, IMHO, is all the publicity breast cancer gets.  Prominent buildings are illuminated with pink light; fountains are dyed pink; all sorts of products carry pink-for-BC ribbons; BC "survivors" are urged to "dress in pink, of course!" for events at which whole communities "Walk for a Cure"; and, yes, football players wear pink shoes, pink gloves, pink socks, etc.  Despite the innuendo behind all this hoopla, or perhaps as a result of it, everyone is very aware of breast cancer.

    What I've noticed in my reading about the subject is a growing backlash against cause-based marketing that involves breast cancer.  Most of us have heard the term "pink-washing"; and many of us are just plain tired of our illness and our lives being exploited for commecial (or even philanthropic) gain.

    Well, we're not the only ones who are growing tired of the aggressive publicity surrounding breast cancer.  People with other serious illnesses, and the organizations that represent them, have begun to push back.  I think in some respects they might be jealous of all the attention breast cancer gets.  I doubt many of them would choose to trade places with us, but I'll bet they wouldn't mind a bit more public acknowledgment of the difficulties they face.... if not also a bit more money to support research and education.

    Komen alone is a huge marketing operation that dominates the field of breast cancer-related fundraising.  Then there's the dedication of an entire month of the calendar year to "breast cancer awareness."  Sure, other illness and social conditions have their months, too; but there is nothing to compare to the attention breast cancer gets during its month in the limelight.

    "(National) Breast Cancer Awareness Month" is not just a page on the calendar -- it's an organization that held its first promotional event 25 years ago.  The founding members of the organization's Board of Sponsors were the American Academy of Family Physicians, AstraZeneca Healthcare Foundation and CancerCare, Inc.  The current Board of Sponsors is a who's who of cancer-related healthcare and fundraising:  physicians' professional organizations (ASCO, AAFP, ACOG, ACR), philanthropic agencies (including Komen), American Cancer Society, CDC, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, National Cancer Institute, and many others, including of course Astra-Zeneca Healthcare Foundation (http://www.nbcam.org/about_board_of_sponsors.cfm).

    I haven't seen any reliable numbers lately that compare the dollars raised on behalf of breast cancer "awareness" and those raised by other campaigns on behalf of their illnesses; but I'll bet there's no comparison.  And, to all those other people with equally deadly or disabling illnesses, that has to be frustrating.

    It's sad that their expression of frustration sounds like it's an attack against us, when what they really resent is the success of "our" marketing campaign.  Only we aren't the ones doing the marketing -- we're just the poster children.

    otter

  • navygirl
    navygirl Member Posts: 886
    edited November 2010

    Otter, as always, well said. I think you've hit the nail on the head with your view. I'm sure it is frustrating for the other diseases to see how much "awareness" and attention BC gets, when the others are just as devastating to those who have them. I'm glad we've opened this discussion, I don't harbor the resentment towards the chosen words anymore, and that's always nice ;)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited February 2011
  • Anne068
    Anne068 Member Posts: 176
    edited November 2010

    I know that she didn't write it. And I know the pink parade is nauseating.  And we're not the only ones who are bombarded with it.  I'm not upset about it anymore. It just hit me wrong that day.

  • otter
    otter Member Posts: 6,099
    edited November 2010

    {{{{{Anne068}}}}}

  • catbill
    catbill Member Posts: 326
    edited November 2010

    I was diagnosed right at the end of September, 2010.  The nation went right into "Pinktober", and my first reaction was horror.  Football players in pink shoes and pink Tshirts with stupid sayings on them.  I was disgusted, but then I started thinking about it.  All the emphasis on breast cancer in October generates dollars that go into research. While none of us are impacted favorably today by "pink month", I hope that someday the research will help all of us.  People caught up in the pink thing may not be thinking of those of us living with the diagnosis today, but I guess I don't care if the money funds research that finds a cure for us.  I believe they are really trying to be supportive.  In the meantime, I JUST HATE PINK!!!!

    I, too, heard the words "elevated sugar" for the first time in pre-op, so it didn't sink in very well at the time.  Now, I've had time to find out what that means.  I wish the best to all diagnosed with either of these diseases.  Both can be life-threatening, and neither one is any fun.

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited August 2013

    I am a 10 year diabetic who was diagnosed with breast cancer this summer.  I can attest to the fact that neither is fun.  I understand that those of us with breast cancer can get sick of Pink October. And I suspect that some with diabetes feel that not enough media/marketing attention is paid to that disease by comparison. 

    Even though there is a diabetic "explosion" with estimates that by the year 2050 one third of all people will have type 2 diabetes, there is not at the moment a single research effort I could find that is addressing the effects of chemotherapy on diabetics under the age of 65.  Not one.  I asked the Komen Foundation. 

    Even though my BC is "almost" triple negative (ER is 8%, PR is 3%) and my oncotype score was 50, I passed on chemo because I feared the neuropathy and the effects of steroids on my diabetes from a long term perspective more than I feared the possibility of a recurrence.  I could find no study that reassured me that I wouldn't end up with permanent side effects from chemo with no proof that I either had a rogue cancer cell that got past the sentinel nodes or that chemo would eliminate the chance of recurrence.  And three oncologists could offer nothing because there's no research underway.  The only clinical studies were done on information from the Medicare database so all the information was for women 65 and over, and the data analyzed by MD Anderson demonstrated that diabetics do not tolerate chemo well, end up with more severe side effects that require hospitalization, and are more likely to suffer long-term neuropathy.   I am 60 so I had to pay attention to that information as it was the best available data.

     I suspect the comment is nothing more than a plea for attention to another killer disease and whoever wrote the original comments was envious of the attention being given to breast cancer. 

     The ADA needs to hire the Komen marketeers!

    Michelle

       

  • sem474i
    sem474i Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2010

    I am not the least bit resentful of the attention the pink ribbon campaign brings to our disease. I pray the money for research makes a difference if I have a reoccurence or God forbid my daughters get bc. I am raising money for Komen through Marathon for the Cure and PROUD to do it!

  • kelben
    kelben Member Posts: 269
    edited December 2010

    I don't think the pink campaigns are aimed at BC patients... they are more aimed at the non-breast cancer people.  To make them aware and to raise money for research.  The money made from pink everything, goes to cancer research ( less of course the admin. fees )

    My grandson was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes when he was 9, he has an insulin pump and everyday I think about him and wonder if he is ok.  The diseases are important to the diseased, the healthy ones need to be made aware, so they can help.  Education and research are the targets.

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