Night Sweats - what to do?

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momzr
momzr Member Posts: 111

I believe I am entering peri-menopause and am now starting to have problems with night sweats on a quite regular basis.  I had my episode of DCIS in July 2008 and the biopsy indicated both ER and PR positive results.  Therefore, I really want to stay away from anything that would increase the hormone status in my body.  However, the night sweats are really interrupting my sleep and I would like some rest.  Does anyone know of something 'natural' that is OK to take and try to help with this issue?  I had purchase One A Day Menopausal formula vitamins and was trying them, but then someone told me plant based things are bad (which this has SOY as the main thing that is supposed to help).  Should I stop taking those (not sure they are really helping that much anyhow)  Any suggestions?

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  • Mollydog
    Mollydog Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2010

    Are you open to alternative medicine?  Acupuncture and herbs have helped me with my hot flashes. I still have them, but they are less frequent and more manageable.  It's another expense but may be something you might want to look into.  Take care.

  • Lowrider54
    Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721
    edited November 2010

    Hi momzr...I would stay away from soy.  I would normally recommend Black Kokesh but I am not certain of the hormonal status of it - if the onc ok's it, it works great!  LowRider

  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited November 2010

     Acupuncture!

    I found the article below on www.themossreports.wordpress.com but I have been reading other places about the efficacy of acupuncture for hot flashes/night sweats, libido issues!! as well as specifically for tamoxifen

    A new study has found that traditional acupuncture can help relieve the adverse side effects of the commonly used drug, tamoxifen. Fifty participants with early breast cancer completed eight traditional acupuncture treatments. Eligible women had been taking tamoxifen for at least six months, and reporting at least four incidents of hot flashes and night sweats per 24 hours for at least three months. Acupuncture reduced the frequency of these unpleasant side effects by half (49.8 percent) in 30 weeks, when the experiment ended. There were beneficial effects as late as 18 weeks after the end of treatment. The women also experienced improvement in fear and anxiety, loss of memory and concentration, menstrual problems, sexual behavior, sleep problems, etc. Dr. Beverly Devalois and her colleagues in Middlesex, UK, concluded that these results compared favorably with other studies on relieving the side effects of tamoxifen. The women “enjoyed improved physical and emotional well-being.” They called for further research.

    de Valois BA, Young TE, Robinson N, McCourt C, Maher EJ. Using traditional acupuncture for breast cancer-related hot flashes and night sweats. J Altern Complement Med. 2010;16(10):1047-1057.

  • sweatyspice
    sweatyspice Member Posts: 922
    edited November 2010

    My integrative PCP recommended Estrovera (a Metagenics product).  Then my gyn (at the cancer service) questioned it.  Then I looked it up, and Metagenics' own website says it's contraindicated for women with hormone sensitive cancers.  Had a chat with my PCP about that!

    Seems they're all now suggesting the antidepressant Effexor, apparently it has a side effect of quieting hot flashes.   I've been resisting antidepressants throughout this ordeal, but at the moment the idea is starting to seem yummy.

    I now live to sweat, sweat to live.   Never realized my screenname would become so appropriate.

    Acupuncture is an interesting idea, too.....

    Has anyone tried the chillow pillow?  I'm now sleeping with all the windows in my bedroom wide open....if it's a cold night I alternate between shivering and sweating.  There has got to be a better way! 

  • SoCalLisa
    SoCalLisa Member Posts: 13,961
    edited November 2010

    Neurontin could help...I used it initially for neuropathy at a low dose and it curbed my night sweats

  • Mollydog
    Mollydog Member Posts: 93
    edited November 2010

    Remembered something else during the day.  If you're a big coffee drinker (even decaf) cut it way, way back.  Cutting back on coffee really helped me.

  • sespebadger
    sespebadger Member Posts: 249
    edited November 2010

    I think night sweats get better with time. That's been my experience. I think I've had them about 8 mos. now (since a month after chemo started) and after about month six they eased up. I've also been advised by my onc that exercise is good and that caffeine and alcohol are not.Luckily chemo made coffee taste terrible and I found I enjoyed jasmine green tea. Now I stick with green tea. And I must admit I am drinking much less than I used to and I intend to up my exercise any day now. Do intentions count?? ;-)

  • IronJawedBCAngel
    IronJawedBCAngel Member Posts: 470
    edited November 2010

    My hot flashes and night sweats were at their worst in the first two years after the tamoxifen and the hysterectomy.  They decreased gradually and weren't bad at all the last two years on the tamoxifen.  I had success with the chillow and with one of those little water bottle misting fans from Walmart.  I have a friend that loved some sheets that wicked the moisture away, but can't remember their name.  Accupuncture is supposed to work a charm with many side effects, and may be worth a try if you can get past the needle phobia I have.  I worked briefly for a integrative medicine office but quit as they had me setting up electrodes with no real training and pulling needles with no gloves (and some patients do bleed), so I never actually had the accupuncture.

    My onc wants me to avoid all of the natural estrogens like soy, black kohash, flax, etc.  The effexor is supposed to be very effective against hot flashes and does not interfere with tamoxifen.  I found if I tried to relax and did some of my deep breathing exercises from lamaze it helped.  Hopefully your flashes and sweats will diminish soon.

  • roseg
    roseg Member Posts: 3,133
    edited November 2010

    I find that keeping my bedroom very dark helps. If I'm sweaty and wake up and the room has much light in it I have trouble falling back to sleep. If it's pitch dark it's easier to get back to sleep. It's important to not think if you wake up from a night sweat. Once you start thinking then the days' worries keep you awake. Practicing relaxation and deep breathing when you get woken up can help you fall back to sleep easier.

    I also stick my feet out from under the covers. I cool off quickly when I do that.

  • speech529
    speech529 Member Posts: 337
    edited August 2013

    I had hysterectomy w/ovary removal June 2 along with lumpectomy for DCIS (ER+/PR+).  I also had a unilateral MX on June 28.  By end of July I was having hot flashes during the day about every half hour or so and 5-6 times a night.  Needless to say it was unbearable and interfering with my daily life due to no sleep, having to work with young children, being 51 and recovering from major surgeries!!

    Comment on the chillow pillow....yes, I bought one in July.  I would put it under my chest/torso and put a thin sheet over it.  It helped in the beginning of the night, but it heats up with your body heat and you have to to remove it and let it cool off.  It got a tiny pin hole it in which causes all the water to leak out...not good!  I sealed the hole with clear silicone which worked for a while.  The pillow now smells some what musty.

    I stopped using the chillowpillow in August--I decided to try a one time progesterone shot (Depo Provera).  My treatment was at Mayo and all my docs told me a one time shot was not going to put me at risk. The hot flashes went away 10 days after the shot and  I have not had one since then.  They told me they don't know how long the shot lasts, possibly forever.  For some it may be  a risk they don't want to take.   I did not want to go on Effexor--too hard to get off of this medication.  I tried it and it caused dizziness.  

    If my hot flashes come back, I will try acupuncture.  If that does not help, I will re-evaluate my risks and see if I can get another shot.

    I am sure everyone will have different ideas, comments and input from their docs.  This is what I needed to do for myself to have some sort of quality of life and to function each day.

  • twirlandcurl
    twirlandcurl Member Posts: 102
    edited December 2010

    I have been having HORRIBLE sweats the last two weeks. I already take Effexor..which stopped the hot flashes..but nothing else. I saw my Onc on Thursday ..he said I pretty much have to suffer through. I do wake up..and can easliy fall back aslepp..but my bed is soaked..and my hubby doesnt reach out to snuggle anymore..I dont like that part.

    I started the tamox in Feb..hope it gets better

  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited December 2010

    twirlandcurl -- I was having terrible night sweats as well after chemo. Onc said it was from the abrupt shut down of estrogen flowing as a result of chemo. about 3 months after chemo ended and Tamoxifen began I got my period back and my night sweats were becoming less and less and now I don't have them at all (4 months on T)  My onc told me that Tamoxifen makes your hormones go up and down and then they plateau. He said it can take up to a year for that to happen. I think that is when your night sweats will dissipate. I also did accupuncture so I dn't know if it was solely the T or the accupuncture that rid me of night sweats but I do recommend it.

    Good luck

    Di

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