July 2010 Rads
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Donna - glad to hear you had a good time on your London trip. It was very sweet of you to light a candle for all of us - thank you! Try not to worry too much about the skin thing (I know...easier said than done). Hope your results come back quickly and benign.
Sonia - I agree - everyone here has become friends, even if we have never seen one another. I sometimes get my "in-person friends" telling me I need to get off this site and move on with my life. It's hard to get them to understand that this is what is helping me move on with my life. I cannot imagine having gone through this without all of you.
Julie - still thinking of you - wish there was something I could say to make things better for you. Hope you get your results back and all is fine with them. You definitely deserve a little kindness from the universe.
Karen
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Hi all,
Sonia and Kim, I had one of my friends think I was nuts when I organized a number of private trips off a cruise in Russia last year, She said they were strangers, I became friends with a number of those people.
You have all become very important to me, because you do get it and you aren't strangers. I too have found immense comfort and support here from everyone, isn't it nice that it doesn't matter what any of us look like, I do hope we can meet one day, too, but in the meantime I am glad you are there.
Donna, thanks for the candle. It really touched me, this summer in Belgium I felt really touched by the message in a "tourist" church and lit some candles, I found it very comforting and I think it helped me to start to heal, to just finally shed a few tears. I think we all have quite a bond because of our shared experience. I am glad you had a chance to be just you, not cancer.
I have really struggled twice lately, when i got my flu shot yesterday and when I saw a new massage therapist I was asked about my health, and I checked off Cancer, I asked if I still had it, I said I hope not, but I am not really sure where I stand. It doesn't really feel like it is in the past yet.
Julie, I hope you are doing okay, I feel so badly for you. My mom had broken her hip and recovered from it and I had hoped that would happen for your mom. It gets so hard when they are so fragile. Mom has recovered from her first cataract surgery but I still feel a bit overwhelmed with everything, so I don't know how you are handling it all.
Tracye, Hope it goes well for you, yikes more stuff to deal with.
have been having more annoying red spots on my breast, weird that they would surface months later, I wonder if it is still healing.
Back to NO MORE BAD (as Sonia said so eloquently) Kim I am with you, let's give boring a chance. It seems we have all had more than enough, why can't life stop or at least slow down when we are dealing with so much already.
Big hugs to my Cyber buddies,
Brenda
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Hi Everyone:
For my Hot Flashes acupunctury has done me a world of good, my HF went from 20 a day down to 4-5 a day....
Thank you for all the prayers and thoughts for me and my family. Today has been a hard day for me, but I will get through this in time.
Got all my results back..GOOD NEWS...Bone test-AOK, Bone density-said I have bones of a 40 year old and looks great-Arm pain is not Lymphadema (however you spell it). The PT said its from the nerves and tendents being fried during radiation and take months to a year to heal. so I will have Therpay twice a week for a month.
Donna-welcome back, I think you pain is the same as mine.
Ok, everyone been a long day, again thank you so much for everything.
Many hugs Julie
p.s. I can't spell tonight, eyes are so swollen from crying
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Julie, thanks for sharing your good news. I'm not sure how you keep going, you're an inspiration. I hope the positive energy continues for you.
I too talk about you all to my 'in person' friends. I don't think they get it. Until you're a part of an experience and group like this I think it would be really hard to understand the connection. Someday it would be great fun to meet.
Thanks for the encouragement everyone. Got the mole on ignore until I get to the doc tomorrow
Donna.
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Good Morning Friends!
Julie - so glad to hear your good news! What a relief!
Patty - 2-5 years for the breast to heal - wow! I am an impatient person and feel like everything should be back to "normal" now. I wish my bras didn't hurt so much!
Trayce - sorry to hear "T" isn't working well for you and even more sorry to hear you may need a hysterectomy. That stinks! Please keep us updated - we are here for you!
Sonia - thanks for the links. I am also reading and researching as much as I can on nutrition/supplements/etc. It could be a full-time job! There is so much out there and so much that isn't "known". I have been really curious about the whole dairy thing (I have read on BC.org of people removing dairy). I am feeling pretty good most days. I just feel fragile - like I will totally fall apart if I have to deal with anything else. I have put my head in the sand concerning my tooth issue because I just can't deal right now. I worry that I won't ever be able to deal with life's stresses any more. It is weird.
Donna - glad your trip to London went well. I too, am touched that you lit a candle for us. Thank you. I will be thinking of you today as you get your results back.
Like you, I too talk to my "in person friends" about my "online friends". You all have become a part of my life and I am so thankful for each of you and your friendship. I know people say we need to get on with our lives and they are right but what they don't get is that our lives are different now. It isn't like I had my gallbladder removed that I can just recover from and never have to think about again. My doctors can't tell me that I'm cured. I can't move on as though this didn't happen. I will be monitored for 5 years, take "T" for 5 years, I have one less breast, I can't go out in the sun without making sure my rad area is covered, etc. But, I can move forward with my new "normal" which is what I am trying to do. The emotional healing will take time just like the physical healing. I keep very busy and don't think about cancer every minute. Anyway, you all are very special to me.
Have a great day everyone! Julie - take care of yourself .
Hugs, Kim
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Julie - I hope you are taking some of your time off to rest and recuperate. You have been through so much during the last months.
Tracye - I am so sorry you are facing a possible hysterectomy right now. I know it isn't easy to look at ANOTHER operation after everything you have been though. Hang in there! I also lost my mother very young (15).
Donna - thank you so much for the candle lighting and I am keeping my fingers crossed that you got good results today.
Sonia - I know the exact looks you are talking about. I always talk about being on here catching up with you guys and my friends and family look at me like I am nuts or tell me I need to "stay off of here". Thanks for the nutrition tips. . . .i forced myself to read the dairy article. . .I am having the hardest time parting with cheese and milk and I kind of need to be "scared straight" I think.
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Hi Ladies,
Hope you are all feeling well and taking good care of your lovely selves.
Just want to say Chicago - I have been scared straight - I am officially vegan now and have been for a full week. Cream was the most difficult thing I had to give up but I feel so relieved that I am not putting any estrogen into my body deliberately, it feels like a relief to have finally given it up. I am finding the reading I am doing about meat and dairy repulsive - I can't believe it took me this long to really understand how much impact my food choices have on my body.
Hope you are ok Donna.
Sonia
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Hi Ladies:
I hope everyone is doing well.
I started the pill from hell this week "A" pill. Well today I tossed them in the garbarge can.
My head pain is so bad I thought I was on my way to the ER, I know there not the name brand so I will ask my ONC next week for the brand name and try again.
In my health magazine today I found this:
Blocking breast cancer with D-Glucarage
Found naturally in apples, grapefruit and broccoli. D-Glucrate binds to carcinopgens and exess hormones forcing them out of your body before they can damage breast tissues. THE study proven dose : 500 mg daily (note: d-glucarate is often labeled as "Calcium D-Glucarate)
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Hi Julie - Sorry to hear you had a problem with your pill from hell. Hope you are hanging in there. The gloomy, windy weather here in IL is NOT helping my mood at all! At least it is sunny today.
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Hi guys, hope your all doing well and enjoying the weekend. It's my son's b-day is tomorrow, so we had the family over. It was nice and very festive with the trick or treaters coming by.
Took until Thursday afternoon before I got the mole results. Thankfully B-9! Thank you all for the positive thoughts. Had the stitches out on Tues and they covered the incision in glue and put a seri strip over it. Needless to say as soon as I stooped down Tuesday evening it POPPED open. At least I had all the supplies at home from when my breast incision didn't stay closed. I think I could take the test and be a nurse at this point
Sonia, thanks for the link and congrats on going vegan. After a whole life of eating 'whatever' I think it would be really hard. I'm going to read the article now and know I have to make more changes in my diet.
Kim, glad to hear you're doing well. I know what you mean about not wanting to deal with anything more. Even the little stuff that's just slightly frustrating wigs me out.
Tracy, sorry to hear that you may have to have the hysterectomy. Thinking about you and hope all turns out well.
Julie, we have to take these pills for years so waiting a while and letting other things settle shouldn't effect anything. Maybe the name brand won't give you the headache.
Best to you all for a great week. Donna.
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Donna: Congrats on the Mole being AOK....One less thing you have to worry about...:)
I went and bought DIM-Google it. I went on the natural site here and a lot of woman take it via the pill from hell. I see my Onco this month and will speak about it with him, I can't take the head pain, plus I went to the store, called Jim and said "Come get me" I could not drive I felt so OUT OF IT...
Also could be the passing of my mom, as much as I knew this day would come it was a shock the way it all happend and so fast, still trying to process her death and my sisters. LET THIS YEAR BE GONE...
I hope everyone is doing well and getting back to "NORMAL"...:
Miss everyone
Julie
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Hey there.
Julie - I'm so sorry about your mom. My heart goes out to you and your family.
Donna - Glad to hear that your mole was B9.
I've just been busy with follow up appts and other appts. It's weird now, when I fill out the medical forms and it asks about cancer. It's weird to check it off and then explain that I had/have bc. I'm still not used to it. With my follow up with the rads, it went fast but also weird walking into the building. I got to see a few other people that I had met when I was going there for rads. It was weird.
Take care everyone.
Patty
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Hello all,
Donna, I am so happy for your results. I am sure it is a relief.
Kim and Donna, I am with you, that even the little things I find can overwhelm me. I feel like I cannot handle anything more, I don't even think I have really handled this yet.
Maybe that is why I feel so fragile, and the lack of support sometimes in the REAL world can be difficult. I just want to run away and hide. Hawaii anyone??????
Julie, glad it isn't lymphedema and that your acupuncture is helping, I am trying to work up the nerve (LOL) to face more needles. I hope you are hanging in there.
Patty, I agree it is so weird as to how to respond, I hope it is past tense, but I don't think I am there yet mentally. I also found it weird to go back.
Sonia, good for you, I don't know if I could do it, I think if I had someone cooking and organizing that part of my life, we have one excellent vegan restaurant and I could do it there for sure.
I am finding it so difficult to balance everything and I don't want it to get away from me. I am finding my mom is needing more than I can give her and she won't consider any help or moving somewhere where she could have meals and some medical care.
I am trying to balance my need to do good work at my new job, and yet still dealing with the fatigue that hasn't faded as quickly as I had hoped. I am frustrated with myself at times, and others as well, Last year I chaired a conference and was told I may not even be able to go this year because of my work load. Yikes, that upset me. I feel I am letting others down including myself. I am sure it is getting old that I am not up to speed.
But the good news is, I am feeling pretty good overall. Though I was surprised when you said it could take 2 or 3 years for the breast to heal.
At my mindfulness class, people started talking about cancer and that was good as we all have/had cancer. I was again stunned by other's experiences that were negative in their treatment and I got really angry, it seems we all have enough on our plates without unintentional(?) poor treatment. I also continue to be amazed at how many are affected. and I really am glad breast cancer awareness month is finally over, My favorite was on the radio talking about how many women die each week, YIKES>>>Enough already.
Thanks again for being there and big hugs, I feel I can really share how I am truly feeling with you all, Sorry for the pity party.
Brenda
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Thanks, Julie, Patty & Brenda! Yes, one less thing. I'm glad you're here so I don't have to go to mole.com for support
Brenda, I'm with you, glad we made it to November without turning completely pink. I kept hearing those stats and was having nightmares that one by one all the women in my train car were keeling over. The conductor still took their tickets, just weird.
Hugs back to you and thanks for sharing your thoughts. The balance is a struggle and really hard to prioritize. Given the circumstances I'm sure your doing a great job. If your boss is open maybe you can have a chat so they understand your motivation is there but your stamina hasn't yet caught up.
My boss asked me how I was as the group was settling into a staff meeting last week. I said fine, but fighting off a cold. He leaned over and said louder, "but how are you, really?" Everyone just stared at me...very awkward. All I could say was 'I'm really fine'. Did he think I'd give a merry medical update in front of the whole department!?
No More Bad, girls. Let's stay Normal and Fine! Aloha, Donna.
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Hi all,
I was out of town a couple days and had no computer (or television) access. It was kind of nice to be disconnected.
Donna, glad to hear your mole was benign! Sorry to hear your boss was a jerk.
Julie, I'm so sorry you have had such a rough year. Next year has GOT to be better.
Patty, I know what you mean about checking off forms. I find that now that I don't have cancer in my face quite so much, that I'm almost surprised all over again when something reminds me I have it. Only now it isn't a feeling of horror, so much as bewilderment, like "I have cancer? Can that be right??"
Brenda, I get what you're saying about the lack of support in the "real" world. Monday was my birthday, and neither my brother or sister called me to wish me happy birthday. They've been avoiding me like the plague since I was diagnosed. Sometimes I just want to scream at them, but it would do no good. My brother send me a card, but usually he would call. I am tired of being sympathetic about how difficult my cancer has been for other people. It's not been a picnic for me, either! I'm sorry work and your mom are adding to your stress.
Is anyone finding that you're shifting from sad/scared to angry?? I have been feeling REALLY angry lately - just pretty much fed up with everyone and finding it much harder to not say out loud what I'm thinking.
Hope everyone is having a decent week and sending wishes for an uneventful fall and winter!
Karen
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Hi Ladies!
Donna - glad your results were B9! Sorry your boss created such an awkward situation for you. Some people just don't think!
Sonia - Congrats on going vegan! That isn't an easy feat. I would be interested in what you've been reading that "scared you straight". I'm okay going without milk but the cheese is difficult for me,especially when I make vegetarian meals.
Julie - how are you doing? I'm sorry that "A" didn't work for you. I hope you have success with DIM and that your doc is supportive. It seems many women are doing well with it.
Tracye - how are you doing?
Brenda - Hawaii sounds good!!!! Even more so now that it has gotten cold - I seem to be colder than usual. Sorry work has been such a struggle. It is frustrating not being able to do what we used to be able to do. The healing process just takes time - lots of time.
Karen - I too have those moments when I can't believe I have had cancer. It hits me out of nowhere sometimes and I can't believe that this person is me. Wierd. I'm also more angry too and find I don't care what people think anymore. I also have no patience for other people's "crap". I think all of these feelings are part of the grieving process.
I have to get a chest xray and blood work this month for my meeting with my surgeon. I'm trying not to think about it but it is starting to "hang over me" more and more. I feel this intense need to get all kinds of "stuff" (closets cleaned, Christmas shopping, etc.) done before my appointment in case I get bad news. Ugh!
Hope you all are staying warm! Exercising is becoming more of a challenge! I am so not a cold weather person! Hugs to you all! Kim
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Donna - So glad your results were benign. LOL on the Mole.com. . .worse thing is that it probably does exist! OMG on your boss. . .obvious much? People keep asking me how I am doing and I keep answering fine too because it seems like the right answer. . .I have this bad habit of oversharing with people so I am trying to put the breaks on that.
Karen - I can't believe your brother and sister didn't call on your b-day and have been totally missing in action. I feel like I have had more people jump ship now that I am "finished" with treatment. I've definitely had some outbursts of frustration and anger throughout this process. I went to a wedding last weekend and realizing I couldn't wear anything that required a strapless bra sent me into a meltdown. Luckily my husband talked me off the ledge. I have another wedding coming up in a few weeks in Mexico. I am so excited to go but the whole mastectomy bathing suit issue is not great. I think it bothers me most when I try to do "normal" things (sorry Julie) and realize there is some sort of lingering BC issue I have to accommodate.
Sonia - congrats on going vegan. I have to say that we've had a significant shift in my household. Missing my mornings lattes for sure (switched to green tea) and cheese but the meat I could care less about.
I had another fill yesterday. They had to fill 20 CC's instead of the regular 60 they had been doing because I couldn't take the pain. Doing a little at a time helped a ton because I was in a lot of pain. My recon breast is so high and tight. . .it feels like it is directly under my collar bone while my other breast droops like a breast typically does. The good news is they augmented the right side at the same time and I've had 1 expansion on that side which looks great.
Silver lining.
I have my Mammo of my remaining breast on Tuesday. Anyone else gone for one yet?
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Hello friends,
Karen, I am so sorry, about your siblings. I don't get how people just don't get it, and how it can only be about them. Sad, I think I too am getting angry about some things, I still like Sonia's Give A S@#% is broken. I do care, but I don't want to care too much because my perspective has changed to a healthier one.
That is my struggle at work, I am been told to take care of myself, but the message is I am not getting everything done how it should be. I have found seeing a counsellor at the Cancer centre very helpful. I am trying to keep my balance physically and emotionally and that is hard when I am kind of type A and need to keep that balance. Today I had to leave, but my work wasn't complete so I feel badly, I am not sure how to manage that. I am trying to do a full time job in half time, so I know it isn't realistic, Yikes.
Donna I couldn't believe your boss, probably thought he was being supportive, but this is not something you discuss in front of everyone. My boss and her boss discussed how long my fatigue would last, and I thought wow, we are all different and I don't know that I will follow the same pattern as that. My therapist said a year is very normal and I should try to stay half time for at least the next three months, Yet I feel I am frustrated both by myself and yet I can accept that, but not sure of how the rest will unfold. Retirement starts to look good, but I don't want to do it for the wrong reasons but I have found I really want to be the one who decides what to do with my time.
Kim, I too have had that experience, I am big into tying up loose ends, trying to get some work done at our house, and I have been wondering why the big push? I guess that shadow is always there.
Chicago, I had a mammogram and they were extra gentle so it was fine, Hope that is your experience:)
Well we are having a beautiful warm day, so I am going out into the sunshine,
Hope you have some too,
Brenda
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Well happy friday to you all. I haven't been poking around for the the last week and so haven't been up to posting - I'm just so tired and sleeping 12 hours every night and it just doesn't seem enough. I am feeling tired of things too. TIred of working so hard, tired of the endless chatter and meaningless stuff. I could go on but I won't. I am feeling much calmer about things in my life - that is until I read a thread a few days ago about one of the women on this site who had a reoccurance after 4 years - pretty much my stats and it has really freaked me out. I am having a terrible time with my thoughts again. I realize I shouldn't read things that I know will upset me but I find my empathy for everyone here over rides my common sense and sense of self-protection. I think when that happened this week it made me avoid the site for days. I feel like sometimes I am much better when I don't come here but then I miss you all and I want to know how everyone is doing and I feel like I can't stay away in case there is something you say that I might need to know. It's like I can't live with the information and can't live without it. I know when I just come to this thread I do really well but I obviously didn't stick to that rule this last time. I am finding so much comfort in what you say - about work, how family is treating you, what you're going through - it just is so helpful and so important to my healing. I am going to try to just connect here and on the tamoxifen thread - So glad to have caught up with you - read all your posts.My heart goes out to all of you.
Sonia
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Hi all - Happy Friday!
I had the week off work, and realized I REALLY needed it. I'm feeling halfway human again. Joined a gym, took a yoga class, and just relaxed. I felt almost cancer-free this week. Unfortunately, the six-month mammo is just around the corner - yuk!
Kim - I think I know what you mean about feeling like it's "hanging over" you. I almost have magical thinking - like if I have everything in order, then cancer won't spring out and "get" me again.
Chicago - Good luck with your mammogram Tuesday!
Brenda - I can relate to your feelings about your job. I worked full-time throughout this, taking off only a week post-surgery, and leaving early for radiation treatments. I am now realizing I should have taken more time off, because I left myself depleted emotionally and physically. I have made some mistakes at work recently - nothing too terribly critical, but not like me, since I'm a perfectionistic on the job. My heart isn't in it like it used to be, and I'm just not as efficient on the Tamoxifen (makes me a little stupid).
Sonia - I think I read the same thread as you're talking about (the woman with the oncotype score of 9?) That got to me, too. I have managed to keep myself off the stage IV threads, but I sometimes get pulled into things on Active Topics that I would be better off avoiding. I think we're all trying to find that perfect balanace - being aware of cancer, but not letting it rule our lives. I feel like I'm still on a teeter-totter: I either don't think about it at all, or feel overwhelmed by it - I just have not yet found much balance. I feel like I'm starting to get there, but still have a ways to go.
Has anyone made major changes in their lives as a result of all this - I mean like quitting a job, moving, changing a relationship, etc? I now feel like I've let work become WAY too central in my life, and am considering trying to go to part-time within the next couple years (would have to pay off some debt and move to a cheaper house, also). Anybody else considering changing things?
So glad you're all here - can't imagine going through this without you!
Karen
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Yes Karen - that was the one. Scared the bejeezus out of me. Been feeling around for days looking for lumps - kinda feel crazy. I have been formulating a plan about changing my life. Thinking about starting a private practice and working in a more part time way as a counsellor rather than 6:00 am mornings - crazy days at school and not finishing until 5:30. I really find that things that would have upset me at work or would have motivated me to keep up a frenetic pace are no longer able to. Nothing can keep me awake at night anymore - ha!! I love that part - just not caring about work as much. Something happened right after my diagnosis in may at work and came back to haunt me in September. I actually said to the headmistress of our school that my give a shit was broken while we stood discussing it on the way into work (it was early and I hadn't put my work face on yet - actually may be a side effect of tamoxifen) and she looked so stunned that I would say such a thing that by the time she recovered I was in my office. She suggested to my immediate supervisor I may want to adjust my attitude. I told her my attitude had already been adjusted - by cancer. I really no longer care about work the way I used to that is a for sure.
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Karen It is so hard to balance, I am fighting to keep the lesson I learned that work is not really important. I think it must have been incredibly tough to work through all of this.
I am thinking seriously about retiring which I hadn't even really considered prior to my diagnosis, I find I just want to be in control of my life and time, which is probably a reaction to being so out of control about everything,
Sonia, I too had a major incident at work after I told them about my diagnosis, funny we are in the same line of work that is supposed to be compassionate. I had a harder time with that originally than my diagnosis. I now realize some of it resulted in good changes, but it sure added to my stress in a needless way. I guess that is why I refuse to let things slide back to how they were with my job being so important and so stressful. So for the most part I am able to do that, but I can see a dangerous slide back is very possible.
I too have thought I really don't want to not work at all, would like to be part time too, so have been thinking about a different way of working.
I know people say Cancer changes you and I guess I sort of realized that but not really until lately. I also think it is hard that we are all living under its shadow. I try and not think about it, but I not the possibility is there. I seem to be able to ignore it most days and I am way too chicken to look too far on the boards.
Anyway, I too don't know what I would do without you, I feel I can totally be who I am and say what I need to and will not be judged.
Thanks for being there.
Brenda
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Sonia - if anyone comments about my attitude, I plan on stealing your line about your attitude already having been adjusted by cancer - you must think quick on your feet to come up with those kind of remarks!
Brenda - yea, it would be nice to have some control of something. It feels like I'm just now starting to have a little say-so in my life again, but I am fearful that a recurrence will happen and then cancer will be running the show all over again. Ugh.
Hope everybody has a good week!
Karen
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Are any of you all familiar with the research on Metformin to prevent recurrence? I had not heard of this until yesterday, but there is now a large scale study going on that they are recruiting people for. Apparently, there is some compelling research that Metformin may really make a difference. I am plotting how to talk one of my doctors into prescribing it....
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Here's the link if you're interested:
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Karen, do you get a sense they will prescribe the metformin in addition to the hormone therapy? I am starting to hate the way I feel with tamoxifen. I have been having a lot of aches and pains - joints aching, muscle aches, loosing hair, tons of hot flashes. Are any of you having these kinds of side effects? I swear the longer I'm on this gross drug the more seriously bad I feel. It makes me feel really old and achy. I've been considering talking to my Doctors about going off. I wonder what % of decreased risk I have given my stats. Sometimes feel like my fear of endometrial cancer is growing. Wonder if I would be better off to have my ovaries shut down and not take anything. Feeling pretty miserable at times and when I read women are having re-occurances even with it - it makes me feel a little crazy. Wonder what I am doing to my body.
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Hi ladies,
It's been a while but it's really nice to be able to 'drop in' and read everyone's post and see how everyone is doing. I have a question for anyone. I met with my new oncologist last week. She asked about my periods while being on Tamoxifen. I told her I've only taken it for 3 weeks but did have a period. She then mentioned that she would like to give me a shot of Lupron to completely shut down my ovaries, because I"m very high w/ER+/PR+. Did anyone else have this done? I'm scared of the SE's of Lupron, but sometimes I wonder if Tamox is really working. I feel for you who have had major SE's, but at first I thougtht I was having the hot flashes, but I think it was just because the weather was hot here in CA. Now it's cold, and nothing. I'm a counting my blessing that this is not as bad as I expected, but I wonder if it's working for me. My new onco mentioned that it probably was working (sounds assuring, huh ), but wanted to also add the Lupron shot. I do have the mood swings, but from what I can tell it's a bit more than before when I had major PMS'ing. Just wondering.
Karen - the clinical study does sound interesting, but it's mainly targeted to ER/PR neg women, unless I read it wrong...which is very possible
I'm highly ER+/PR+ almost to 100%, actually 98% in both. But it does sound interesting.
Sonia - Sorry to hear about your SE's. I hope that it does get better. I'm also at a point to decide if maybe it's better to have my ovaries removed. I don't plan to have any more kids but still hesitant about making a decision. I hate to take the Lupron shots to shut down, but sometimes I wonder if it's better to remove them because of my fear of endometrial cancer.
Patty
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Hello,
Karen, thanks for the info, it is always nice to stay current, but I too am ER/PR positive so it wouldn't fit for me.
Sonia, in my situation the oncologist said the benefits weren't great enough to outweigh the risks, only about 1% improvement for me if I took Tamoxifen. so I didn't have to. I know each situation and individual is different, but maybe they can tell you your % improvement to help make that decision.
Patty good luck with your decisons,
brenda
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Hi all,
Sonia - I feel achey on Tamoxifen, too. I thought the achiness was related to decreased estrogen, though, so getting your ovaries shut down may still leave you with all the same symptoms. I am entering my 5th month on it, and the side effects seem to be easing up. I don't know if they are really altering, or if I've been blaming Tamoxifen for what may have been radiation-related symptoms and stress. Who knows?! One perk, though - for the first time in 37 years, I had no period this month! WooHoo! Hope that is IT for periods!
I don't know if the protocol involves Metformin in addition to Tamoxifen or instead of it. There is a study posted somewhere on these threads that describes pretty impressive outcomes for Metformin at shrinking tumors and reducing recurrence (in both hormone positive and negative women, I think).
Patty - the study is looking at both hormone positive and negative - I think they're just hoping it will be another tool in the arsenal for hormone negative women, who have fewer options than those of us who are hormone positive.
Take care everyone,
Karen
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Chicago - how did the mammo go today? Hope it went well.
Sonia - sorry "T" is causing you such problems. I would encourage you to ask your doc about how much benefit you are really getting from it. It seems like when I read other threads about it that there isn't much benefit. I am kind of baffled by that. Also, if you go to the alternatives thread, some women seem to be having success managing their hormones with other things.
Patty - I too have been worried that I "T" isn't working as my SE's are not bad. I definitely have hot flashes but they are very manageable and don't occur often. I have been on "T" for 2 months and have had my period, on time, both months. I feel like we can't win on this drug - if we have SE's we are miserable and if we don't have SE's we have to worry that it doesn't work for us. Somewhere I read that some women call it "damoxifen". Good luck with your decision. It isn't an easy one.
I am finding myself more frustrated and angry lately. I should probably go for counseling as I have found myslef mad at tv personalites, LOL! Several days ago I was watching the cooking channel and found myself really angry at the Barefoot Contessa and Paula Dean. The Contessa was making chocolate truffles, etc. and I felt so angry that she could eat all of that and I can't (or at least I shouldn't and when I cheat I feel guilty). Paula Dean was making all kinds of unhealthy things too. I guess all of my dietary changes are getting to me. I just want to not have to think about everything I put in my mouth and not feel guilty because I ate a cracker. Guess I should stop watching the cooking channel!
Have a good evening, Kim
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