Second primary 7 months after chemo?
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Wow, first post-treatment mammo yesterday and although the "girl" that gave me all the problems came up clear, the other one is showing an increase in calcifications where a clip was placed in March of last year. Biopsy scheduled for September depending on what previous records and pathologies say. If in fact this is a second primary showing up 7 months after chemo, what does that mean? I mean, shouldn't the chemo have killed this shit off? I had 4 DD AC's followed by 12 DD taxols. They pretty much nuked me. Ladies? Waiting (anxiously) for your expert opinions and advice. Thanks!
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Wanted to bump for you.......Hopefully others will respond, I did not do chemo....You would think that what you just went through that this will not be another primary......Why did they put a clip there before and not biopsy that area?.....All waiting for results and tests are so frightfull, hopefully someone will help ease your concerns....Best to you.....
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Littletower: I just had my first follow up mammogram this week, after finishing chemo in March this year - yes 7 months same as you. They've found something in the other breast. I don't have the final report from the radiographer yet but looks like I'll have to have it biopsied. It didn't show up on an ultrasound but they are sure there is a change since my mammo last year. BTW I'm still on herceptin - 3 to go. Of course I'm worried, but have to think how lucky whatever it is was visible. I was lucky last year when my PILC showed up at such a small size as ILC is very sneaky. This new thing is much smaller from what I could see.
Like you, I wonder if the chemo I endured had any effect at all or maybe this new thing is a different type or even benign. I hope you reply to this and let us know what yours turned out to be.
Sue
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Hey Suepen-
After reviewing previous pathology and consulting between my surgeon and two radiologists, they decided the biopsy was unnecessary. I'm still ambivalent about not going ahead with it. Especially since I was stage 3 five months after an "all clear" biopsy. I'm just so freaking tired of hospitals and biopsies and CANCER!!! But, going back for mammo in January (6 months) and they will look again. Now dealing with lymphodema. Joy, joy.
I truly hope yours ends up being nothing. It so sucks when this ride just keeps staying bumpy! Stay in touch and let me know. When is your biopsy scheduled for?
Thinking of you...all good thoughts and big hugs:)
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Littletower: Thanks for replying, I was hoping you would see the post. I don't have a biopsy scheduled yet as I'm still waiting for the final results. I called the surgeon's office and they said they could squeeze me in to see her depending on the radiology report. I don't really want a biopsy, I just want it cut out, which is why I want to consult with the surgeon first and see if she would agree to doing that. I will see my onc this week when I go for my herceptin treatment and will also see what he has to say. At my last treatment he said if there was anything in the other breast the chemo would have knocked it on the head - I certainly hope so. Meanwhile, I can do nothing but wait and see.
Thanks for the hugs
Sue
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I had an MRI before my surgery. The found 4 suspicous areas in the other breast. This did not show up in the mammogram or the ultra sound. Both the surgeon and I decided to removed this breast too.
Ended up one area was 1mm LCIS. Had we not done an MRI I might be in the same boat as you in 10 months (still doing chemo right now). I don't think they tested the LCIS so I don't know hormone status but it could have been different. This difference might be why your tumor didn't respond to the treatment.
They have plenty of other guns to use one you. This one might even be a small amount of LCIS. It might not even need chemo just removal. -
Lago: First of all LCIS is not cancer and LCIS does not show up on mammograms. Your LCIS may never have turned into invasive cancer. LCIS can be there for 20 years or more with no cancer ever occurring.
Second, my tumour was removed by surgery a year ago, so there was no tumour to respond to chemo in the first place. Chemo in most of our situations is adjunctive - that means just in case cells have escaped. The aim being to hopefully prevent metastases.
Thirdly - we don't know what this other thing is yet - it may be totally benign or calcification.
"This difference might be why your tumor didn't respond to the treatment" was not a very intelligent comment to make and it upset me. So please try to be more sensitive in your comments.
Sue
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My apologies for bagging Lago in public but some people write before they think of the consequences.
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I had a second primary in my other breast 3.5 years after having lump/chemo/rads. It was a totally different pathology. It happens. Had to go through surgery, chemo, rads again.
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BTW my post was refering to littletower's situation. Not sure why suepen assumed it was about her. Since she felt it offensive I removed it.
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MRI says probably benign - will know more after I see my surgeon tomorrow.
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Great news!!! Let us know after you speak with the Doc.
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Sorry to say there is no warranty, it can be Stage II,III or IV and never get a recurrence and a person with Stage I, will get one.
One can get a recurrence after years of diagnosis.
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New primary confirmed from biopsy yesterday. This time a low grade ductal which is better than high grade lobular with HER2. CRAP!!!!!!!!
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suepen, So sorry you have a new primary. Thank goodness it's low grade. Do you know when you'll be having surgery? My thoughts are with you.
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I see the surgeon on Thursday morning. Also, I don't want to miss my herceptin tx next week.
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It is so scary when we hear things like this. You have done every thing right, but yet it still comes back. It makes me so mad. I'll be thinking about you on Thursday. I can understand why you don't want to miss the herceptin tx next week. Do you know if it is HER2+ or not?
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If it's low grade it's probably not HER2. My onc said that if I had a new primary it would definitely not be HER2 - he has total confidence in Herceptin. Also it's ductal not lobular this time - totally new primary. Might be some weird ductal type that doesn't respond to chemo. I guess I'll find out after they get it out of there. I'm just so glad they found it so small.
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suepen: So sorry for your new primary. Cancer SUX!! Praying everything turns out good. Hugs coming to you!
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