An Apology with a Twist - on Stage III

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Lowrider54
Lowrider54 Member Posts: 2,721

I am not a know-it-all.  I clearly state that it is my personal experience and that everyone is different.  I offer what has helped me.  I try to ease fears, not create them.  While it is my very personal experience I share - if there is anything to be gained from it - take it, use it, make it count - if just one of you fighting this beast gains something, then it is worth the 'typing through the tears'. 

Every good intention can, at times, have unexpected and mixed results.  I have truly attempted to raise 'awareness' with the upcoming 'Pink Parade' of which I am so fond...NOT!.  But it is Breast Cancer Awareness Month and laying myself out there - yes, my 'personal' experience - has led to being berated for instilling fear into those early stagers that are fearful enough already - for that, I sincerely apologize as that was not my intent.  It was meant as an informative and 'be viligant' message to EVERYONE that encounters this beastly thing - at whatever stage.  Yes, gals, it can be erradicated at an early stage and you may never encounter the beast again.  Bless you if you can.  I applaud your bravery and respect your fears and I was in no way trying to 'frighten' you into thinking there will be a 'black cloud' hanging over your head for life.  The best message is to just be viligant - there is a trial taking place right now concerning the benefit of a breast ultra-sound either in addition to or in place of a mamogram for its ability to detect anomalies in dense breast tissue that a mamogram cannot.  http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/107356.php

The twist to this apology is the on-going issue of posting to appropriate stages.  Newcomers are terrified and are desperately searching for some way to ease their fears - they don't know the forum and are just seeking help and support and information - they learn, as I did when I was 'new' only a year ago, that sometimes a little respect goes a long way but respect is not what anyone is thinking about when hearing those words 'you have breast cancer'.  At that point, you don't know the stage, you know nothing about anything other than OMG and your world is up side down.  Once settling into the dx and treatment and options - understanding the different issues encountered at different stages, the posts become more relevant.  However, we have stage iv - while we invite your well wishes, your support, your encouragement, your sympathies, your jokes, and other wonderful things you say to us - unless you are stage iv, there is no understanding of what it is like. 

Once again, I will set myself out there as an example - a 'personal' experience.  Some feel I don't belong posting on the lower stages as I don't understand - oh, I do, very well - been there, done that, moved on to stage iv.  This board is now 10 - my experience began 11 1/2 years ago - had this board been here, I would have been a stage II poster.  Here is an example of a post I might have made (in the past tense):

I remember all too well what it was like as a stage II - I can still taste the chemo everytime I walk into the treatment room for my infusions now.  I remember having wonderful D boobies and hair down to my ass. I remember playing, camping, running, watching and loving my then 8 year old who had to watch his mommy get sicker and sicker and sicker and had to learn to cook - I did all my cooking on my treatment day after (steriods still kicking) and made micro wave meals for the week so the little one could 'cook' dinner for us.  He did get pretty good with mac and cheese on the stove.  Friends came in and helped me with laundry and I worked the entire 8 months through it all.  And then it ended.  My brain didn't come back for a good 6 months.  My finances were in ruin.  I missed so much of my little boy's life - concerts, ball games, camping trips - but he hung in there and was my little rock.  And then the Tamoxifin - BTW, Arimidex does have a few more se's  but good golly, 43 and premature menapause due to chemo - ahhhhh, I thought I would lose my mind.  I had to cut my hair but for the luck of the draw, my treatment combo let me have a 30% shot at not losing my hair - it thinned but didn't all go - it did in other places...lol.  I feel very confident that I do understand the early stagers but I have to go through the story because I am a stage iv now and I am not supposed to get it I suppose. 

Here is the present - I got to see many more concerts, ball games and camping trips and had 10 plus wonderful years after my treatment ended with my son.  He is now 21 and a Marine and I couldn't be prouder.  I have been dx'd with bone mets and am now stage iv.  Although there is no expiration date stamped on my foot and with treatment, I may yet have a life, a forever changed life but life - for how long is unknown.  I have bone mets only - a blessing, in a way as my treatments are kinder than most of my metsisters.  Daily, I read about my new 'family' on the stage iv forum about not going to be able to see their children grow up.  I did, I was lucky to have that time and I so feel for my sisters - but, the difference with the stage iv group can be pointed out so clearly here - at stage II, although I lost time with my son, my treatment ended and I got to see him grow up.  Today - I face not seeing him be married, never being able to hold his children, my grandchildren, never knowing the wonderful woman he will choose as his wife, I may not see him finish his Marine Corp enlistment and see what he will become in life.  I won't be missing a part of his life as I did at stage II - I will be missing the rest of his life.  While I was sicker than a dog, I was still in his life - I now face that there won't be me for him to call when he has a problem, he won't have me to text to give him a wake up call, he won't have me to comfort him when something goes wrong, he won't have me to guide him, hug him, love him ever again.  All I can do now is always be there the best I can, put things together for him to remember me, write him letters that I will not send but he will get in a box when I am gone.  Things - all I have to leave him are things.  This is stage iv breast cancer - there is no way anyone but a fellow metsister can understand how this feels despite how compassionate one may be. 

While treatments may be similar and have similar se's - the reason for the treatments are so very different.  I am not going to go further, enough said.

I send cyber hugs in a big way to each and every one of you that has encountered this beastly thing, to every life it has touched and family member here for help to support your loved one. 

Now, can we get back to being the supportive, helpful, caring, loving, compassionate, wonderful, respectful group who is here to help each other in our collective fight against the common enemy - breast cancer? 

Group Hug?  LowRider

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  • KittyDog
    KittyDog Member Posts: 1,079
    edited September 2010

    (((((HUGS)))))

  • SpunkyGirl
    SpunkyGirl Member Posts: 1,568
    edited September 2010

    Amen, Lowrider.  Two things often come up on these boards that will always throw a wrench in things for us all.  First, people write things that often get misconstrued by others.  Secondly, we always have newcomers to the boards who first and foremost need our unequivocal help, and they (me, at one time), don't always follow the protocol like they should. 

    Your last line just reminds us all what it's really supposed to be about. 

    ((((LowRider))))

    Bobbie

  • sespebadger
    sespebadger Member Posts: 249
    edited September 2010

    Thank you for taking the time to explain all this, Lowrider54. When you think about all the people who post on this site, it's amazing that it works as well as it does, ususally. I'm sorry when there are problems. I've only been posting for a few months and it does take a while to figure out how things work. I agree that if we are not in Stage 4 we cannot possibly understand Stage 4 feelings. I've have read many of your posts however, and your sincerity and desire to help shine through. You have helped me tremendously as I have negotiated Stage 3. Thank you.

    Big hugs to you and to everyone who is trying their best to get through b.c. 

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2010

    Lowrider54, Luv U Sista and I always have learned from each and every one of your posts.  I don't see why you would ever feel you should appologize for telling it like it is.  Blessings to You.

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    Barb

  • Bugs
    Bugs Member Posts: 1,719
    edited September 2010

    I have no idea why you are apologizing, but I'm all for a group hug!  Most of the time we keep it pretty real over here in our stage 3 forum and IMO,  your posts are real and they are helpful. :)

    Bugs

  • jenn3
    jenn3 Member Posts: 3,316
    edited September 2010

    I don't think there is a need for an apology, or I missed something along the way, but I always love your posts......so if I may, I'd like to join in with the group (((hug)))

  • SusieMTN
    SusieMTN Member Posts: 795
    edited October 2010

    LowRider54 - Thank-you for sharing you're story, it is insightful, loving, caring, and we CAN and DO learn so much from you guys -  Thank-you!  Your intentions were good!  So ((((((((((((((((Big Hug)))))))))))))))))))))))! 

    I appreciate all the help I get from this site.  Yours seemed well intended.   

    The one post in the thread that I think was the cause, was way out of line, it should be deleted!  

    BESIDES Love THE WHOLE LowRider thing too!  

  • littletower
    littletower Member Posts: 333
    edited October 2010

    Agreed. LowRider, you have absolutely nothing to apologize for. I always appreciate your posts and perspective. Thanks for all the times you have helped me through.

  • AnacortesGirl
    AnacortesGirl Member Posts: 1,758
    edited October 2010

    I found the thread where the controversy started and read through the whole thing.  I really don't believe you have any reason to apologize but it says a lot for your compassion that you went ahead and wrote such a nice post.  Keeping talking to us!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited October 2010

    Well said....(((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))

  • NancyD
    NancyD Member Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2010

    {{{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}

    No apology needed. I respect the Stage IV women on this board more than you can imagine. Your experience, trials, and tribulations aren't scaring me--they're giving me a window on a possible scenario in my future.

    Just as many of us lower-stagers already have a plan for living our lives as "cured",  I want to have a secondary plan framed out in the event I develop mets. Loosey goosey kind right now because the kind of mets would determine different options. But reading your experiences has shown me that just because I go to Stage IV doesn't mean I should then raid my 401K and blow it all. I really might still need it for years to come.

  • 3monstmama
    3monstmama Member Posts: 1,447
    edited October 2010

    Scratching my head because I've never felt anything but supportive by what you have posted.  Thanks for taking the time to respond to me.

    and many many ((hugs))!

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