August 2010 Mastectomy
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Hello
Question - I hear about this picture forum. How do I get on it? I have been taking pictures and I am willing to share. I know seeing pictures of others have helped me tremendously be prepared as to what I would look like. And there are some great videos on you tube also.
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My first post here
I know RobinLM from our June Masectomy girls. I had my MX with TE done on July 1, but still mostly post on June since thats where I met so many brave and encouraging friends.
The drain tubes are the pits, but usually within two weeks are gone. They tell you its best to leave them in, since if they are taken out too early, they will have to aspirate the breast. Thats enough to scare anyone. My PS aspirated mine 3 weeks in a row because my body just kept producing fluid. Aspiration does not hurt, since we are numb in that area.
The emotions are odd. I never really cried before or immediately after, but when I hit the two week after point.. well it seemed like I was falling apart and everything made me cry. Things do get better...please believe that. The emotions and pain eases in time.
Everyone has different reactions to filling the TE's. Its not painful to fill but I was very uncomfortable a few days after each fill. There is a burning sensation at times. Some however never have any discomfort.
They are re-doing the picture forum. It should be up and running again in a few weeks from what I was told. Timtam runs that and has everyone on hold. I will be glad to post here when I find out its ready for new members.
(((((((( Hugs )))))))))) to all of you in August.
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The tears have definatly been flowing for me. I learned long ago, holding emotions in were bad for my health. Amazingly some of my strongest days have occured after a good cry.
I'm ten days out from my BMX wTE's. I had my follow up with my BS, pathology is good, still stage 0. My drains were removed. Everything in my recovery, is pretty much moving forward, at a steady pace. My personal goal is to get totally off the narcotics over the next few days.
All and all, life is good, and I feel very thankful.
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Hi Robin, I'm sorry you have to be going through this too. When I read about how your tears are flowing, I thought that this is so hard for us women who are made to share our feelings and not keep them in. But here, is something that has helped me. There is a med callled citalopram HBR. I actually started taking it b/c my hot flashes were getting so bad but I coulnd't take any estrogen. IIt is actuallly a anti depressant and helps with anxiety. It just kind of lowers the anxiety level and takes this rollar coaster feeling away. Things just don't seem so intense. I take a 10 mg in the am and 10 more before going to bed. I still feel happy, I laugh, I feel sad, but I'm just not so extreme in my reactions. Maybe this can help you. I'm thinking and praying for you and your family.
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Carlatap,
Does that medecine really help with hot flashes? Chemo threw me into early menopause and the hot flashes have been terrible. My oncologist prescribed Effaxor 75mg daily. It helps a little but not worth the cost. My insurance will not cover it as I guess the generic does not have the same effect. So it cost 180.00/month but I have found a discount from Effaxor itself and now it's 90.00 but still way too expensive. my cancer is hormon driven so I cannot take anything else.
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I'm supposed to be set for Monday the 30th. But it is such a mess! BS's office says it's outpatient. Pre-op meeting with the hospital, the nurse says it's day surgery (BMX & bilateral SNB) with the surgery being 3hrs, recovery 2hrs, and then to a semi-private room. So if it is outpatient, where do I go after recovery???
Then just today I get a letter with the authorization for one partial mastectomy!!! I'm supposed to get a BMX and a bilateral SNB!!!
I am just not happy at all. My BS and his staff never return calls. I do have an appointment with him tomorrow morning. I am NOT leaving until I get a copy of the new authorization letter!!
It's such a mess, perhaps I ought to reschedule and/or get a new BS. I'm afraid I will wake up with a messed up boob and the other still there.
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Mindy that's horrible. You need to let them know you are loosing confidence.
But I have run into the same crap until recently. I was told I was having a ultra sound guided core biopsy but they scheduled me for a MRI guided one. Even when I questioned they said Nope that's what your having… I showed up and had to wait and wait. Why because the radiologist caught the mistake and they had to reset up the room. I got the ultra sound guided one
I was given someone else blood test request. I caught it but even if I didn't they would have caught it when I went to get my blood.
In surgery they ask your name, birthday and what procedure you are having don. I remember them asking specifically which breast they were going to biopsy. All hospitals do this. This is how mistakes are avoided. You'll get your BMX just be sure to give them a piece of mind (and of course get it in writing) tomorrow.
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Oh Mindy - that is terrible. Really terrible. Coping with facing cancer and a masectomy is tough enough without adding more stress. I don't know how your american system works whether changing BS is an option. I hope you get some satisfaction tomorrow. The 'mess' seems so unacceptable to me. Best of luck.
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A part of me wants to postpone, and another part of me just wants to get it over with so I can see the final pathology report. I have appointments scheduled on Sept 30th for labs and my medical oncologist so I really want to get this over with. But the anxiety!!! Ohhhh gosh.
But yes, I will MOST DEFINITELY get the new authorizations in writing.
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Tara, your post was absolutely filled with wisdom. It is what it is, and Life Goes On. No matter what.
I stayed home yesterday and laid around like a slug all day, slept off and on, and felt no better last night than I had at 7am. But THIS MORNING! I felt like a new woman, and managed to work all day...well, I did leave 15 minutes early, but I wasn't in PAIN, and I wasn't falling asleep at the wheel coming home. And it's 9:30 and I'm still awake! That residual dead tired feeling has left me, at least for now.
Nbb1032...About pulling the drain... I think mine did come out a little too early, but it was falling out and I kept shoving it back in, and the stitches kept irritating the opening, so the PA and I decided it should go. The way it was, it was only a matter of time until an infection just marched right up in there. I think my seroma came about because the first day back at work I lifted too heavy a weight and things went downhill from there.
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Hi.
This is my first post, so bear w/ me, I'm nervous. Had a BMX TE August 12, w/ 3/14 lymph nodes positive. Expect to get my last drains out today. Will start chemo in Sept. Have some idea what to expect b/c husband had 4 rounds of chemo before he died in April (lymphoma), and am very thankful I can have the same oncologist, who is wonderful: curious, caring and sees the whole person, not just the patient.
At the moment, I'm trying to work through my irrational anxiety about the hair loss. Sigh. I have long hair, and figure I'll get it cut short in the next week (locks of love), b/c maybe it's easier going from short to nothing?? And how to be a single working mom of 3 boys (15, 15, almost 10) who lost their dad.
Oh, and (((Mindy))), the hospital really confused me too w/ the day surgery label. Turns out they register/intake everyone through day surgery, even if you're actually admitted. Go figure. I had Thursday afternoon surgery, and they would've sent me home Saturday but I told the PS I needed to stay another night and he agreed. Mostly, Well done, Mindy--taking the reins and insisting on in-writing confirmation at your appt.
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Good News Ladies!
I was informed last night by an old friend, that alll I need to beat cancer and prevent any recurrance is a "healthy, positive attitude". "Studies have proven this". (Aren't you happy we know this? Apparently our BMX and treatments aren't necessary at all!!! It's all about ATTITUDE!)
Also, being a Christian improves your chances. It's a proven fact that more Christians survive than non-christians. (So if you're not a Christian, you're DOOOOOMED! Sorry)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... I am going to quit talking to people.
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Brighteyes sorry you're here but welcome. You sound like a real trooper. I don't have long hair but I have really beautiful hair just above my shoulders. For some reason I'm not as upset about that… more upset that I'm going to lose my eyebrows.
Seriously I have already bought one scarf (that I can use as a scarf around my neck once hair grows back). I plan on wearing cool looking earings and wrapping my head like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc82k6vHJXI&feature=related
I will be penciling in my eyebrows too. One good thing is no leg or pit shaving. Also it takes time to dry/style hair. Not sure I'd be so interested in doing that while going through chemo anyway.
Anne then I'm screwed. Not that I'm not positive but I don't have my head in the sand either and I'm not a Christian. Seriously I have read lots of things online that say that attidude doesn't matter, treatment does.
But I do have a ton of folks praying for me (mostly Christians, a couple of Jews and I'm not sure what my other friend is. I think Hindu.) so there might be hope for me yet
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Happy Friday !!
I'm so glad I found this thread. It really makes me smile. And it's great to have somebody in the same boat to talk to. Also love getting all of the tips ! = )
Anne - I completely understand what you mean !! I started receiving emails about diet and cancer studies after people started hearing the news.
Brighteyes - All I can say is WOW, you must be an amazing woman to deal with everything on your plate. I am a single mom of 1 boy. I couldn't imagine doing it with 3 !!
BTW, after wanting to cry all day long the other day, I feel so much better now. I think I had a mini meltdown, and now i'm ready for this !!!
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Barbara Ehrenreich has written a new book, Bright-Sided, about how the "just think positive" movement is not serving us well. She is a breast cancer survivor and she was unhappy with all the "just wear pink and you'll feel better" crap. It's at my local library and I intend to read it sometime soon.
I have read that meditation is something that has research behind it that it can help lessen the stress and pain and improve healing. Jon Kabat-Zinn wrote Full Catastrophe Life, so I'm giving it a read and a friend got me the meditation CDs. I'll let you know how they are.
It is disappointing when I feel people somehow judge me, cuz they're not saying out right, on whether or not you got cancer because you aren't a good christian ... depending on my mood, I sometimes say, "Call me when you get diagnosed" ...
love to all, tara
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Robin:
I had so many of those break downs in the first 3 weeks and I'm not the type of person who breaks down. I have had a few more but I swear I'm menopausal. I just get teary for no apparent reason every so often. Now I'm just waiting for the hot flashes to start… I do turn 50 in Feb so it could be possible.
But right now I'm just a little scared. You know those little strange feelings in your tummy. Gues that's normal. Tuesday is fast approaching for us.
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Thanks for the warm welcome, Robin and Lago.
And Anne, I actually found a study that said women who express (as opposed to suppress) their anger report fewer immune and pulmonary side-effects of chemo, and that they are better able to "cope."
And yes, meditation does have research behind it. The one single thing my (awesome, did I say?) oncologist has pushed me on is contacting the local mind/body/spirit cancer support center.
Keep breathing, Lago. I keep telling myself that fear is part of life. Sounds corny, but helps me not, um fear the fear, you know?
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Yes BrightEyes I need to keep breathing… this is the first day I haven't worked out since Saturday. I will be back in the gym tomorrow. It always makes me feel so much better… when the work out is over. (I hate actually doing it).
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Hi Carolee,
yes this med has helped me considerably. It takes time to begin working in your body. Give it 2 to 3 weeks and try take it around the same time everyday. Its best to take it when you eat something. You still may experience the hot flashes but they don't come as often and they don't come with such intensity. For the time being I am taking ambien-5mg, not to help me fall asleep but to stay asleep through the night. In case I wake up to a hot flash, I have a fan facing my face, and all I do is turn it on until it passes, and then turn it off again. I just could not go through the day any more without having a decent number of hours of sleep. If you have 7 to 8 hours of sleep with the ambien, you wake up like a new person ready to go! Hope this is helpful. I remember going nuts with all these hot flashes.
Carla
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Hello August sisters:
Well I had my 2nd appt since my surgery and got good news and bad news. Good news first-my pathology report said everything was clear and there was no sign of any cancer of the cells that were removed from my breast tissues. I was greatly relieved. Bad news- apparently the blood supply needed on my new breasts are not getting to all the area so I have huge dark hard scabs very close to the grafted area. So.....next Wed I to go in for another outpatient surgery to give it another try. Hopefully this time it will go better. We'll see...
I feel strong, and have no infections. I'm sleeping well at night and I'm taking things very slow. I just keep telling myself this is a process. -could be a lot worse.
"Be strong and courageous"
Carla
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BrightEyes, you've had a rough time.. I'm so sorry... Having "some idea what to expect" can be a blessing and a curse. To some extent, it's up to us to decide which it's MORE of, although...
...that "attitude is everything" crap really burns me. It disallows any negative feelings at all. After the mastectomy, some people who are close to me came to visit. I was wearing a tank top and no "disguise." I asked them if I looked funny, and they IMMEDIATELY said, too enthusiastically:"NOOOOO!" and pooh-poohed the whole question. Well, SURE I look funny...with one breast. Be honest with me people! Let's not pretend the elephant isn't in the room.
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Carla,
Thank you for that information. I have a couple of months of Effaxor left and after speaking to my oncologist, we will try something new afterwards. Sleeping has been tough too. So sorry to hear thingd are not going well. I have gotten bad new too but on the good side I did get my drains removed yesterday.
I am so confused though. My BS said my pathology showed I was sentinel node positive and node 2 and 3 were negative so Wed they said I needed surgery to remove 10-15 nodes, then yesterday after all the dr's consulted on my case, I was told no surgery but need 6 weeks of radiation. I was so upset. I know radiation will affect my breast reconstruction. Or I was told I could skip both and go right to tamoxifen. I am basically cancer free now but this is to prevent reocurrance. I think I will post this as a new question to see if anyone has gone through this.
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Carole: There might be some microscopic cancer that they didn't remove in surgery. This is why they do radiation. If they feel you can keep those nodes it lowers your risk of lymphedema. I am having the first level taken in my left side (which would be about 10-15 I believe). This means no blood pressure, blood drawn or and "sticks" on that side, ever.
I too am not to happy about the radiation and it's impact on my reconstruction. Even if it isn't in my nodes my BS thinks radiation is likely do to the size of my tumor.
Still my PS know that radiation is a strong possibility. He would prefer none but does feel that it is possible to do implants although guarantee. His feeling is to place the TE before radiation at the time of the mastectomy. I've seen arguments for both sides. Seems Dr. Love sides feels the same way as my PS.
Bottom line is I rather have no cancer than cancer and implants. Hopefully we can have no cancer and implants.
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Why don't the doctors and the care team give us the information we need like on this site? Like zip up or button down or snap tops and sleepwear, roll on deoderant, pull top med bottles, post op camisoles, on and on...
I recorded the conversations I had with my cell phone. My doctor said I'd be staying overnight for a 23 hour observation but it would still be outpatient. He referred me to his secretary about the authorizations and she said they were correct. They both said BMX and bilateral SNB. I will be asleep for the SNBs!! Thank you god!
I got the script and authorization for two post op camisoles and was able to get one yesterday. The other ought to be in early next week and can either get someone to pick it up for me or they can mail it. Talk about last minute stuff!
With regards to lifting, he said no weight limit (!) and said I could drive in a week. My post op visit wit him will be a week after surgery. Right after surgery I would be able to walk but no excercises will be needed the first week.
So this week I will just chill out, won't do a thing, and not worry. (eek!) I guess it is important to trust your care team and I do feel better about it all. I will trust them and go with it.
Welcome, brighteyes. Sorry to hear about your husband and that you will need chemo. Although I might not need chemo, I looked at some wigs this week and they are expensive. And I don't think insurance covers it. I'd have to use some other alternative. But I'm trying to just take one step at a time. Hope you got the drains out!
Hugs to all. This is doable (I'm getting used to that word).
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WinterStorm, I think the "no weight limit" means "lift nothing." That's what they told me. I, of course, ignored it. Don't ignore that advice. Do what they tell you and LIFT NO THING.
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Winter Storm They will give you more specifics as to your care and what you can and can't do once they release you from the hospital. I believe the put it in writing.
And what's this about post op camisoles? I asked and the nurse said they would be sending me to a place to get fitted after. I should do/buy nothing now.
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Okay, my appointment was bumped up for two days so now I have to wait for my first post-op appointment until Wednesday. Concern, today I had a little leaking out of the drainage tubes. A little fluid on my side dripping down. My hubby said that the incision looks good and it is not puss just fluid, should I be concerned? Also, maybe this is the first time I am seeing this but I want to ask. I am a not sure if I am seeing this now that te swelling is going down or something is going wrong in my mastectomy site. In the area where my armpit and former breast meet something is poking up. There is no pain or redness but it feels very strange, kind of like a plastic point. I called the surgeon who is on call at the hosptial who said to watch it and call back if it gets red or painful (since I am 3 1/2-4 hours from the hospital), but, I am worried about letting something that should be addressed go. Is this the TE or the drain, has anyone else experienced it? So angry that my appointment got bumped, I hate these drains and my armpit is so tender~
Thanks
Lisa
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is it the end of your drain tube? I could feel the tip of the drain tubes in me. The PA made a point in the hospital of taking my hand and saying.. "feel this? and this one? those are the other ends of your drain tubes. Its nothing to be alarmed with!" And they felt just like you're describing.. just a thought.
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Yes, I think that is what it is. I just spoke with the on call PS at my hospital and they said it is most likey the end of the drain tube. I was discharged on a Sunday and did not really get a lot of info before I left, quick description with tubes, etc. they did not address the fact that I might feel the end of the tubes so it scared me. Honestly I sort of felt that they were pushing me out of the hosptial pretty quick, I have read about that sort of treatment from a lot of woman unfortunately. After speaking with the surgeon I feel more calm about it, just nervous about my skin, infections, etc., thanks Anne!
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It's the insurance companies that want you out of the hospital. Actually the soon you can get out of there the better. More of a chance of getting a staff infection at the hospital than at home.
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