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KWolf
KWolf Member Posts: 55

I had posted this is the stage III as I did not see this section.. so I will post it again..

Just got back from a meeting with all my team. I got my husband to write down exactly what they said it was.

IBC 3.4cm  Stage IIIc Grade 3 ER- PR- HER2 +  7/15 nodes suspected

Now this is were I am so confused.  I thought let just get the surgery done and then see where we are at... My Onc and My BS are both saying I must have Chemo first and depending on the results of that will decide if I am to have surgery or not.... how can you not have surgery??? I am also to have radiation and some other drug.

When I had my MRI they saw some lesions on my liver that looked like cysts but now they want me to have liver function tests and a pet scan.  They want me to start chemo this week and the treatment plan will be adapted as the other test results come in...

Is all this normal... I am so lost..

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  • SeanE
    SeanE Member Posts: 107
    edited August 2010

    IBC is treated differently than other forms of breast cancer.  The normal course of treatment is chemo first, then surgery, then radiation.  The chemo is used to reduce the cancer there to the point where the surgeon can get "clean margins"; that is, a border of healthy tissue sealed off from the cancer tissue.

     The reason you might not have surgery is if your cancer has spread elsewhere.  In this case, the recommended course often is NOT to have the mastectomy, as the cancer has already spread, so there is not much survival benefit, though this is the subject of some debate in the medical community.

    It sounds like you have a team that is unusually knowledgeable about IBC.  Many places don't even diagnose it, much less how to treat it.

    Because your cancer is HER2+, your chemo will most likely be TCH (Taxotere, Carboplatin, and Herceptin), because Herceptin is specifically used to target HER2+ cancer.

    Many patients also get hormonal therapy following the chemo/surgery/radiation for several years, but that would not apply to you as your cancer is not hormone-sensitive (ER/PR- means not sensitive to estrogen or progesterone).

    Also, I see you are in Boston.  The Dana Farber Cancer Institute there is top-notch.  And if you ever want a second opinion, the world's leading expert in IBC is at Fox-Chase in Philadelphia - Dr. Massimo Cristofanelli.  I know this because he just left our neck of the woods, here at MD Anderson, to start a new IBC clinic there.

    Let me know if you have any other questions - I would be happy to help.  Also, there is a website specifically dedicated to IBC: www.ibcsupport.org.  The ladies (and some gentlemen) there are also very knowledgeable.

    Sincerely,

    Sean E.

    Houston, TX

  • leisaparis
    leisaparis Member Posts: 587
    edited August 2010
    kwolf - Hi, I'm the same as you. ER-/PR- & HER2+. I had chemo,chemo,surgery,radiation,1 yr.Herceptin(still doing this till May 2011). I was suppose to have...chemo,surgery,chemo,radiation,1yr.Herceptin. However they have been doing some studies and if they give the 2nd round of chemo(at least the kind I had), as far away from the radiation as possible, I had a 35%less chance of getting leukemia afterward. So I said go for it. After having to deal with all this crap sure don't want leukemia after I'm done. Any questions you have, ask away. We are all here for you. Someone on here has been there, done that. (((hugs))). Leisa
  • germangal
    germangal Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2010

    hi! You mention your team and I see you are in Boston. I was treated at MGH since the dr's up here in Concord had not ever treated IBC.  Where are you being seen?

    My onco (Dr. Ryan) just relocated to Philly so her practice was reassigned to Dr Urban. Dr Michelle Gadd was my breast surgeon. I had a double MRM (my choice to do both for balance sake) - you can hardly see the scar!  I understand Dr Beth Overmeyer at DFCI is now focusing on IBC. But, since MGH & DFCI are "cancer partners", most of the docs are on staff at both.

    As others have said, the protocol from NIH is indeed chemo, mastectomy, radiation, and then some sort of chemo/hormone therapy. I am almost 4 yrs from diagnosis and doing fine with the exception of an occasional skin reaction when I wear my prosthetics. I have sensitivity to them apparently, so now I'm considering reconstruction surgery later in the year, since my business clothes really need boobs under them to make them look right.

    I was ER/PR+, HER2- so different meds (Adriamyacin/Cytoxan, Taxol, and now Femara) ...

     There's an active IBC support group that meets in Newton that I can refer you to, if you want. Just send me a private message with your contact info.

  • germangal
    germangal Member Posts: 97
    edited August 2010

    hi! You mention your team and I see you are in Boston. I was treated at MGH since the dr's up here in Concord had not ever treated IBC.  Where are you being seen?

    My onco (Dr. Ryan) just relocated to Philly so her practice was reassigned to Dr Urban. Dr Michelle Gadd was my breast surgeon. I had a double MRM (my choice to do both for balance sake) - you can hardly see the scar!  I understand Dr Beth Overmeyer at DFCI is now focusing on IBC. But, since MGH & DFCI are "cancer partners", most of the docs are on staff at both.

    As others have said, the protocol from NIH is indeed chemo, mastectomy, radiation, and then some sort of chemo/hormone therapy. I am almost 4 yrs from diagnosis and doing fine with the exception of an occasional skin reaction when I wear my prosthetics. I have sensitivity to them apparently, so now I'm considering reconstruction surgery later in the year, since my business clothes really need boobs under them to make them look right.

    I was ER/PR+, HER2- so different meds (Adriamyacin/Cytoxan, Taxol, and now Femara) ...

     There's an active IBC support group that meets in Newton that I can refer you to, if you want. Just send me a private message with your contact info.

  • KWolf
    KWolf Member Posts: 55
    edited August 2010

    Thank you all again for your hugs and good thoughts.  I am still very upset and go from feeling a bit stronger to sobbing all over the place.. Dr Beth Overmeyer is heading my team at DFCI, I am very lucky in that my BIL is an Onc at DFCI so he was able to get me set up with everyone I need to be.

    I am not sure what Chemo drugs I am to have I see the doctors again tomorrow after my Pet Scan so I should know more then.

    All this started back in March when I had an abnormal mamo and had to have a biopsy on my left breast that showed DCIS and Atypical Ductal Hyperplasia, I had a Lumpectomy done at BWH and had good margins and because I cant take Tamoxifen my Onc said we would just do check-ups every 6 months.  So she suggested I do a MRI to have a good base line to work from.  Well they found what they thought was an inflamed duct in my right breast at 3 O'Clock just under my nipple,  I had not noticed that the skin was a bit thicker or that the nipple was lope sided. I had a US guided biopsy done and the results were IBC.. There was I worrying about the DCIS when hiding in the right breast was something much much more to worry about...

    so here I am... a total mess..

    Kathleen

  • meena1
    meena1 Member Posts: 16
    edited August 2010

    I was diagnosed with IBC in july 2008.   I had chemo first, then a masectomy, then rads.  I was stage 4 with mets to spine and liver.  I was declared NED after 2 cancer free pet scans.  I have since had a reoccurance in June 2010 and i am now being treated by Dr Cristofanelli in Philadelphia.  I have only been to him once, he ordered a few tests and I will see him again on Sept 7.  I did not receive the correct treatment from my original doctors, so now the cancer has pretty much spread.  I hope it is not too late for Dr C to help me.  I do not know my treatment plan yet.  But he has told me that I should not have had a masectomy since i was stage 4.  

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