Crafting with LE

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Sher
Sher Member Posts: 540
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema

Hi Everyone,

Before LE (non-dominant hand) I enjoyed thread crocheting, but now I haven't been able to figure out how to get the thread to slide over my fingers controlling the tension.   And, I'm afraid the repititious action or holding my hand in the same position would not be a good thing.

But I need something constructive to do with my hands in the evening when I sit to watch TV.............otherwise I keep them busy looking for snacks!

I've thought about learning to make jewelry (even though I don't wear much), but not sure if that involves working with sharp needles, wire, etc.  Other needlework or cross stitch doesn't really interest me.   Ideas, anyone?

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  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited August 2010

    Wow........I just watched a few jewelry making videos and that seems very complicated, plus all those menacing looking tools!  Maybe this particular craft not such a good idea.......

  • Celtic_Spirit
    Celtic_Spirit Member Posts: 748
    edited August 2010

    Hi, Sher,

    I have mild LE in my dominant arm. I cross-stitch, bead, and do stained glass. I wouldn't dream of giving up any of it. I've gotten cuts and scratches on my affected arm from non-craft situations; I wash the area, put some Neosporin on it, and go on. As far as other crafts you might do...can you paint? Are you good at drawing?

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    Sher, have you tried thread crochet without your garments? Once we have the skills to recognize early swelling and know what to do about it, we really are free to experiment with some things. If you're talking about sitting down in the evening to relax and crochet, why not try removing your garments and doing it for about 15 minutes? See what happens, and if it gives you no problem try extending the time by 5 minutes at a time and see what you can get away with. Of course start on a day when your LE is in good control.

    The trouble for me is that once I start on something I can't stand to put it down just because of my stupid arm. And like you, it was hard for me to get the yarn to move smoothly over my gloves, especially the seams. Very frustrating. Anyway I think part of the pleasure for me is feeling the fibers across my skin. I can only crochet for about 15 minutes at a time now, and that's more frustrating to me than not crocheting at all, so I've had to give it up. But we're all different, and if you don't try you won't know.

    I've taken up loom knitting. Not anywhere near as satisfying as my crochet projects, but it's highly portable and I can do it even with my garments on. My kids and I make hats for the cancer center, and from time to time I get enough 7" x 9" rectangles made to send off a box to the "hug-aghan" project on the "Moving Beyond Cancer: Time to Circle the Wagons" board. (See the "Community Afghan" thread there if you're not familiar with it--you send them squares and a couple of gals crochet them all together into an afghan for our bc.org Sisters who need some extra hugs.). Both projects do well with soft yarns, which have a nice feel as you work with them, they're small enough to haul around with me even in summer, and they work up quickly. I had to modify the hook tool so it's big enough and soft enough for my hand, but with that adjustment I don't have any trouble using it. There's a great Yahoo loom knitting discussion board if you have questions, "KniftyKnitterLooms," and it had a sister site called "LoomClass" with free guided instruction in specific projects. It can get quite involved and it's possible to make all kinds of stitches and projects on the looms, so it's not as limiting as it first appears. 

    I've also had to make some adaptations for sewing, as cutting with a scissors makes my hand swell almost immediately. So I use a cutting wheel for cutting out all but the smallest details of patterns, and that's gotten to be second nature by now. (At first it was a cause for tears and pity parties that alternated with something close to rageFrown -- adapting can be quite a dynamic process!Tongue out)

    As for some of the other more dangerous crafts, like stained glass for instance, if that's what you loved it too would be worth trying and adapting. There are Kevlar gloves and sleeves you can buy pretty inexpensively that might help in some cases. Anything you can do to adapt and get on with life is a victory, and that's no small thing!

    Do let us know what you discover.

    Hugs, Sher!
    Binney

    Edited to add, we were posting at the same time, Celtic-Spirit -- brava to you for finding the ways to carry on!

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010

    I am also an old time crochet person who loves to make huge afghans but have not attempted since my LE dx.  I have several partially completed projects just waiting for me to get back to them.  I like Binney's idea about removing the garments for a period of time and testing how long you can crochet before you notice problems.  I usually will remove my daytime garments about an hour before I go to bed and sometimes unwind in front of the TV and do a little massage before putting on my nighttime JoviPak.  Maybe I could try to get a little crochet time in then too!

    I have revived an old sewing skill recently though and am really enjoying it.  I used to sew all my own clothes from the time I was in Junior High Home Ec class and all through my early married years.  My 38 year old sewing machine though has sat collecting dust for the last 15 years or so.  I finally decided to upgrade to a new computerized machine and am having a ball making "non-clothing" items for the first time! 

    So far I have made some interesting tote bags and hand bags out of remnant fabrics,  some unique pin cushions, am wearing my homemade microbead breast forms Smile and have just recently discovered rag quilting!  My cousin adopted a beautiful 10 month old baby girl from Ethiopia and I am in the process of making a Baby Rag Quilt for her.  It is basic sewing skills only and a fairly fast assembly process once you cutout all your blocks.  Like Binney I have taken up using a rotary cutter and cutting mat to speed things up and save the wear and tear on my hand.

    Here is a great link to a video showing how to make a rag quilt along with downloadable instructions.  This is a nice way to satisfy the creative crafting "bug"  without having to battle with the LE too much!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-LQfYXrG_Q

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited August 2010

    I too am a crochet person. My le is in my left non-dominant hand but I have some wrist problems with my right wrist (from my upholstery sewing days topstitching leather) that crocheting with yarn makes my wrist hurt. But I have found that crocheting with the thread and small steel crochet hooks (snowflakes/fillet crochet) doesn't hurt my wrist. I don't know if using the small hook with the fine thread would affect your LE. I do manage to crochet with my gauntlet on, I don't know if the full glove would be a problem holding the thread. Also, if you have trouble holding the fine hook, you can use rubberbands wrapped on the handle to increase the size of the handle or there are comfort cushions available (both aluminum and steel hooks) that slip on the handle.

    Sheila

  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited August 2010

    Hi Ladies

    Thank you all for your great suggestions and encouragement!  Besides dealing with cancer and lymphedema, my sister passed away last year at the same time my husband of 40 years and I were separating.  So, it's been tough to get myself interested in anything once again except for doing a great job eating and adding on the extra pounds!

    But yesterday I headed to my local craft store and purchased a few items to get me started - A Knifty Knitter loom (round medium) and some bulky yarn as well as a couple of small bookmark cross stitch projects.  I worked with the loom last night and quite enjoyed it, but I'll also probably have to modify the hook tool to make it more comfortable for my arthritic right hand.  I didn't buy a separate hook, just used the one that came with the loom, so not sure if you can buy different ones like you can crochet hooks, etc. Maybe it wasn't so much the hook, but the fact that I was looping the pegs rather tightly (I crochet tight too) and so it was harder to take the loops off to complete the stitch.

    Afterwards, I read LindaLou's post on the rag quilting and watched a couple of those videos.  This will definitely be something I'll want to try as well. The tote bags would make great gifts and could be customized and stuffed with all sorts of items.  I used to be a pretty good seamstress, even once made a floor length A-line gown with matching floor length 3/4 sleeve coat.  Time to use my machine for something other than mending.

    I've crocheted all sorts of things like garments, stuffed toys, afghans and decorations using a variety of yarn, but the last several years have only using thread for smaller projects of doilies, Christmas ornaments, dishcloths, etc.  When I started getting arthritis, smaller items with less bulk was easier on my hands.  

    So, thanks again and Happy Crafting!

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010

    Well I stayed up late last night to complete my first attempt at a baby rag quilt.  In spite of a few beginner errors this is a very forgiving technique since the ragged seam edges hide many imperfections.  My assessment is still that this is a very good craft to try if you have concerns about LE however after spending a fair amount of time last night "snipping"  all the seams to create that "ragged look" I would recommend caution using scissors for a prolonged period of time.

    My next quilt I will plan to assemble one row at a time and snip each row before attaching the second row in order to space out the amount of time I am clipping through seams.  If you do not use a batting or 3rd layer of fabric in the middle of the block "sandwich" it will be easier to snip also.  The only real difficulty I had was cutting through the seam intersections where there were 12 layers of fabric.  It takes a very sharp pair of scissors and some wrist and hand strength to cut through the thick portions.

    It was still a very fun and simple project.  I have plans to start another one soon!  Smile

  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited August 2010

    That is sooooooo cute LindaLou.......love the bright colors and the frogs!  I was thinking about batting and whether to use it or not.  Guess it would depend on your fabric and what you plan on using it for.  I think I'll look for something in a heavy flannel to start with and not use batting.  Do you have the "snipping" or "clipping" shears that was mentioned on the video and do you think they would be helpful? 

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010

    Thanks Sher!  I used white flannel for the middle batting layer and both outside layers were cotton flannel also.  I do have a pair of large spring action scissors but they would not cut through the seams at all. I think the blades were not that sharp.  My regular sewing scissors are very sharp and cut through all the layers with extra force needed only at the thickest parts of the seams.  I really haven't noticed the spring action ones making that much of a difference in general cutting though.

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited August 2010

    LindaLou, that is adorable.  I also love those flirty frogs. 

    I wish I was crafty...I think I'm totally without craft skills.

     Maybe witchcraft, but that's probably it. 

  • kane744
    kane744 Member Posts: 461
    edited August 2010

    LindaLou, that quilt is soooo cute.  I have tried all my life to be crafty.  I am the only one in my large family who isn't.  For years I was dragging around all my unfinished projects and equipment and finally, right before I was diagnosed with bc, I at last accepted that I just wasn't the crafty sort,  took everything to a nearby nursing home and donated them.  They were so thrilled to have all this stuff and I felt relieved to not have that pressure anymore.  So now I just buy the finished products!  No, Suzybelle, I don't say I did it (LOL).

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    LindaLou, what a lucky baby! It's absolutely a treasure! Love the fabric choice too. Is the back a solid color, or does it match the front? How about a rag diaper-bag next to go with it?

    Good idea to cut the squares as you sew them, instead of trying to do it all at the end. Ouch! Thanks for the inspiration!

    Hugs!
    Binney

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited August 2010

    Linda, Some of the ladies in my quilt guild have made some of these quilts and they cut the 'batting' - what goes in the middle - 1 inch smaller than the blocks so you are only cutting through the front and back fabrics. Also they notch out the corners with a 1/2 inch square so the corners don't have so many thicknesses to cut through.

    Sheila

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010

    Hi Binney

    The back side of each block is a green checked flannel so the back of the quilt looks like a solid uniform piece even though it is individually sewn squares.  I have been trying to come up with small projects to use up my flannel remnants, so just finished this little baby rag hat today!  I had to adapt a standard baby hat pattern to the seams on the outside for the rag effect but it actually came together pretty easily.  I added a little chin strap with velcro tabs because I don't have a clue what size to make the hat for a 10 month old baby.

     

    I think I may have just enough extra blocks left over to make a small pillow sham to match the quilt.   The diaper bag is a great idea though!  Wish I had thought of it earlier.  Don't have enough fabric left now though Frown

    Sheila thanks for the tip!  I'm sure that would make the snipping easier.  Do you think just  2 layers of fabric give a good enough rag effect?  I have seen several sample rag quilts where they use the middle layer of flannel in a contrasting color to add a special effect to the ragged seams.  I think if actual batting material is used it should not extend into the seams because it does not "rag" well but falls apart.  Maybe I could try notching out the middle flannel layer just at the corners and seam intersections to keep them less bulky there and still keep the contrast color layer for the majority of the straight seams? 

    Each project I make I learn something new and keep trying to refine my process.  I love having a place to share ideas, tips and pics though.....maybe we should start up a regular crafting thread here specifically for our "swell ladies"  so we can all enjoy fun and safe crafting with LE!!

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited August 2010

    That does sound like a good idea, using contrasting flannel in the middle cut the same size as an accent color, and notching out the corners only. Just make sure the first time you wash and dry it, clean out the lint filter in the dryer frequently while drying, all the cut edges does cause a lot of lint to build up in the dryer.

    Sheila

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010
    LOL!  Sheila tell me about it!  I have been sweeping and vacuuming up fluffy lint and bits of flannel for 2 days now!  Smile  My little black kitty Socks is walking around with flecks of flannel sticking out of her fur!  I have washed and dried the quilt twice so it is shedding much less but my laundry room looks like there was a huge pillow fight in there!  You definitely have to keep a close eye on the dryer lint filter!
  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    LindaLou, the hat is adorable. You'll have to post pictures of that angel wearing it!

    I love the idea of carrying on this craft thread with our projects, and with any tips for making it easier on our hands/arms. The title of this thread is perfect (thank you, Sher!) Let's go for it!

    Who knows, if I make something I'm proud of I might even learn to post pictures! Cool
    Then again.... Computers!Yell

    Sher, how's the loom knitting coming?

    Onward!
    Binney

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited August 2010

    Binney,

    She is definitely an angel and I can't wait to meet her!  My cousin has 4 beautiful children but has added this littlest angel to her brood.  The baby has gained weight and seems to be adapting well to her new family.  I will definitely send a pic when I get one of her with the quilt and hat.

    Love her huge eyes and that SMILE!

    P.S.  Binney I will be glad to help you with posting pics.  Its not hard if you use a hosting site.

    Yes, thanks Sher for starting this thread!  Lets see how many other people we can get to join our little crafting circle Smile

  • Suzybelle
    Suzybelle Member Posts: 920
    edited August 2010

    That is one gorgeous baby.  You have to post a photo of her wearing her cap!!!!

  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited August 2010

    Binney..........I need your help with my knifty knitting!   My local craft store only had a few items to choose from and nothing in the way of directions except for the small leaflet enclosed in the package.  The first round loom I bought is a deep red and has 32 pegs or posts and is supposed to make a small child's hat size using bulky yarn.  My first attempt came out smaller than planned, but looks pretty good with nice even stitches.  I headed back to the store today and purchased a round purple loom with 48 pegs that is "supposed" to make the perfect adult size hat using medium yarn.  I would have liked the in between size, still thinking of a child's hat, but the store didn't have any.   Using the purple loom and double strand of medium yarn, the weave - actually the space between the rows of stitches seems rather loose.  Stitches tighter, but looser in betweem, does that make sense?  While I'm kniiting away,  I have to keep reminding myself not to wrap the yarn too tightly around the peg (did that at first and had trouble getting the stitches off) so I'm not sure if that is the problem or the yarn itself? 

    One thing I think I figured out is that the looms which are to be used with bulky yarn have pegs farther apart than the ones that are supposed to be for medium weight yarn.  Does that sound right?  The hooks that came with each of my looms are different too and am guessing that's for the different weight yarn.  

    I'm having fun learning and haven't noticed any problems with my LE hand/fingers.  This is a craft that can be easily done while wearing either a glove or bandages and watching TV at the same time!  

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    Sher, hello!

    I have a set of round Knifty Knitters that came as a set, and I'm not familiar with the purple round loom. Mine are blue (baby size), red (small child), green (older kid or adult), yellow (large adult). I can use two strands of worsted-weight yarn on any of them and they come out fine. Or I use a larger yarn (Lion Brand Homespun) and a thin novelty yarn together for a fun color and texture combination.

    Like you, I started out too tight and have learned to wrap VERY loosely, which is better for my hands and the finished texture, both.

    I've made some fun prostheses on the red round loom, using a weaving technique for the flat back surface. I learned it in a loom-knitting pattern book that I love called "Learn New Stitches on Circle Looms" by Anne Bipes. (I ordered the book on-line). It has great hats, scarves, shawls, and afghans, all made on the circle looms. The weaving idea is the top of a hat pattern in the book, but I adapted the method for the smaller loom and it works great. That book really opened my eyes to the possibilities of loom knitting, but I have yet to take full advantage of it. Mostly we just make chemo hats and afghan squares, which are quick and satisfying, and easy enough you can do it without having to concentrate on counting stitches.

    There are a number of knitting loom manufacturers, and they all have slightly different qualities. Some looms have very close, smaller pegs and knit much finer fabrics, but I haven't tried them because just now I like finishing projects fairly quickly. With the smaller gauge looms you can even make socks fairly easily. I'd say just experiment with the looms you have and various yarn combinations. If you're using two strands, they don't have to be the same kind or color of yarn, so the possibilities are endless without being complicated. And if you want to go for something more challenging, there are all manner of patterns and instructions on-line that will have you knitting intricate intarsia sweaters.

    If you haven't signed up for the Yahoo "KniftyKnitterLooms" discussion board, do! Very delightful bunch of ladies (and men) at all levels of skill and experience, including many loom knitting pattern designers. The sister "LoomClass" site has hundreds of patterns from easy to daunting. Great fun!

    Don't know if any of that helps -- hope so! Onward!
    Binney

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited August 2010

    LindaLou, what a doll! Those eyes; that smile -- what a lift she'll give her new family! Okay, can't wait to see her with hat and blanket. When do you get to hold her? Hearty congratulations to your cousin!
    Binney

  • Sher
    Sher Member Posts: 540
    edited August 2010

    Thanks for the tips Binney!  Last night I watched several of the "how to" videos on youtube and was amazed at how many techniques and variations there are for loom knitting.  Joann Fabrics is where I purchased my first looms and yarn, but I'm going to check out ACMoore and possibly Michaels later today to see what they might have available. I think some of my problem has been my choice of worsted yarn...........really the "worstest" in that it felt coarse and scratchy and just didn't give the hat the right feel or look.  

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited August 2010

    This past spring I bought a knifty knitter rake loom and am trying to figure it out. I have found instructions online to use it like the round looms, you just count the # of pegs on the round loom pattern and work around the rake with the same number of pegs. I am working now on a scarf with some soft/fluffy yarn I bought for another project but it never got started. I have too many project that I start but never finish. I will be laid off in 2 weeks and I plan on getting some of these projects finished while I am looking for another job.

    Sher, I have found that sometimes the 'cheapest' yarn is the worst to work with. If it doesn't feel soft in the skein, I wouldn't buy it. I also bought some pretty yellow yarn in an unlabeled pound bag at a good price (michaels on the clearance rack), I didn't feel it before I bought it (it was pre-wrapped in plastic), it is rough and stiff. I managed to crochet one of the skeins up for the 'Hugagan' project but I just dread picking up that other skein and fighting with it.

    I did find these spring loaded scissors on Joann's website that said it is good for the 'rag' quilts. http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?pageName=search&flag=true&PRODID=prd28078

    or here are some battery operated scissors http://www.joann.com/joann/catalog/productdetail.jsp?pageName=search&flag=true&PRODID=prd54317 It is similar to what the woman at the local quilt shop uses to cut the fabric people purchase. (I think hers is a Black & Decker brand).

    Sheila

  • LindaLou53
    LindaLou53 Member Posts: 929
    edited February 2011

    Ok...it is time to revive this old thread!  Would like to know if any other of my LE sisters have been getting back to their crafting and sewing hobbies?  Since I last posted after finishing a rag quilt for my cousin's baby, I have transitioned into actual quilting for the first time!  Went on my first Quilt Shop Hop in the Midwest last fall and then attended a Quilting convention/exhibit in Kansas City and now I am hooked!  Am planning to visit the BIG Quilt show in Paducah Ky in April.

    I have been starting out slow making simple hot pads, mug runners etc....but just completed a quilt project for my friend's 7 year old daughter.  It is a simple bed runner that lies across the foot of her bed and has block pockets on both ends to store her story books and treasures in. 

     

     

     

     

    It was my first major quilt project, first attempt at binding and machine quilting....and I LOVED it!  Made lots of mistakes but am learning rapidly and eager to move on to the next project.  Have become a "Fabriholic"  and am building up a fabric stash I probably could not use in 2 lifetimes!

    Anyway, as LE ladies who have concerns for protecting our skin while around sharp needles, pins and scissors I have just ordered a product I have high hopes for being very useful in that regard.  Trust me I was constantly washing, disinfecting and applying antibacterial ointment to the many pin pricks I got in my fingers as I worked on my quilt project and felt there HAS to be a better way to protect fingers and still retain dexterity and ability to do hand work.  I came across a product called Finger Gloves which I ordered and will report back on after using them.  According to the many testimonials however, they seem to be a favorite among crafters and hobbyists. Since having the LE and peripheral neuropathy from the chemo my handsewing days are pretty much over so I am attempting to do everything I can by machine.  There is still no avoiding the "sharps" that are involved in the process though so if any one else has any tips, techniques or products that will help those of us who don't want to give up our craft hobbies, please post here!  Love seeing pics of everyone's work too.....so feel free to add yours!   Smile

  • BoobsinaBox
    BoobsinaBox Member Posts: 550
    edited February 2011

    LindaLou,

    That little girl will treasure this quilt-runner forever!  I tried a couple of baby quilts back in the early 90s and I could never get my machine to work right on the quilting.  Then I got too busy, and right now I don't have space, but I am certainly inspired by what you are doing.  Maybe next year, after we make some changes.  Thanks for sharing the story and pictures!

    Dawn 

  • lvtwoqlt
    lvtwoqlt Member Posts: 6,162
    edited February 2011

    Linda Lou, it is beautiful. I am sure that she will love it. I have also tried machine quilting and it is quick gratification. I made a 'cheater' baby quilt this winter for a friend who was expecting a girl. I actually free motioned the quilt top. the ladies at my guild said that it was good for my first free motion attempt. My quilt guild is working on making 'charity' quilts for a local Children's advocacy program in the county. They are really comfort quilts to be given to the children as they are being 'processed' after the suspected abuse. I am machine quilting these quilts as well, just sewing diagonals across each block.

    Sheila 

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