Help-Tamoxifen-Stop Taking it After 3 Years
Lately I have been feeling so off balance emotionally, I take 20 mg of Tamoxifen and I also take 75mcg of Synthroid due to function damage that Chemo caused......I am feeling so irritated, angry, frazzled, short tempered, unable to focus, at times unable to comprehend many things, cannot think clearly, mind will not stop thinking about fear, I get so depressed in the Winter for the last 3 years since I have been on the Tamoxifen. The hormonal imbalance is more than I can manage, I feel it has gotten worse over the 3 year period. I am very close to ending the intake of this drug, which I feel and know, based on all info that I have read has caused all of the above.
I had never taken medication in my 42 years prior to the BC and never had any health issues.
I believe in natural healing methods, did not want to do all the treatments, but out of FEAR from all the information of what can happen if I don't do treatment, given to me by MEDICAL EST, whose main priority is to sell drugs.
Cancer is a business and I knew this from the beginning of this journey.
I still have so much fear about this disease, even though I am healthy and it's gone....
I need to hear from someone who is 5-20 years out who has stopped taking tamoxifen after 3 years? Please let me know how you did? Also anyone else who is feeling the same way as me, I would love to talk.
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Hi bluesky,
I can completely empathize with your situation. I have only been on tamoxifen for five weeks now and feel so terrible on it. I am also 2/3 of the way with my rads, so I was hoping upon hope that my general malaise was due mostly to the radiation. But based on what I have been reading on this site, many, many gals are suffering like us too. I am 48, single, with three older children, and on summer break, thank goodness.
I, too, am feeling off balance, bloated, nauseous, aches in my joints, edgy, etc. The thought of taking this drug for five years is depressing, but I know it is the best course to take, that I owe it to myself and to my children to do whatever it takes. I am going to try acupuncture next, as that is supposed to help. We shall see.
I feel like my "soul" has been sucked out of me, and I am just a hollow shell of who I used to be.
Just wanted to share that I feel the same way, so you are not alone, must be some consolation in that,no?
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Same here.....
I need longer periods of rest, feel weird a lot of times. I know its the Tamox, but each day I am taking this pill I am thankfull for having the chance to do so. I know women who after treatment of BC are not able to take any medication, and would love to trade with me.
I know the side effects are bad mostly, but geeeeee I am blessed to take the tamox.
For some reason, dont ask me why, I have this inside gut-feeling that this drug is doing its job on me.......
Best
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Hi Marita,
Thanks for writing, yes there is some consolation in knowing that I'm not alone in feeling this way.
I have done tests throughout the 3 years that I've been on it, I've gone off it 4 times for short periods and each time I feel so much better. I have a friend who has over 20 years of experience in Naturopathy and over the last 4 years she has given me so much literature on what causes cancer and how to heal the body naturally. In very basic terms we need to heal on an emotional level 1st, as Louise Hay says Cancer is caused by deep rooted resentment and once one determines that and releases it along with healing the disease at a cellular level, we will be disease free, and the we will be whole again, there are so many stats from the Naturopathic side that prove this. It will be decades before this information hits the mainstream, since the Medical Est. and Pharma will never give up the business that they have going, by convincing us through FEAR that Chemo/Rads/Tamox are our only saviours......And this is not the truth.....
When I started taking Tamoxifen I took Inositol and 5HTP prescribed by Naturopath DR and it did help with mood and balance, a little not completely.
I'm ready to stop taking the tamoxifen as I fear it will cause me more harm than good, it already has, I've also gained over 20 pounds since on it, have had severe mood swings which cost me my job in 2007 when I started taking the drug.........Like you I feel like the soul has been sucked out of me. I now refuse to let this drug and the BC that I had take away more then it already has taken from me......
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bluesky
are you premenopausal or post at dx?
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We have similar diagnosis, and I too had never taken medication prior to BC. I too believe in the benefits of natural healing, and although I never considered not doing chemo, rads, surgery, etc. I do wonder how much of the truth is being told to us. I hate having the annoying arm numbness, the results of having my lymphnodes removed, but feel grateful that the matted cancerous nodes are no longer under my arm. I also hate having neuropathy in my feet, but I am grateful for the fact that I live in a country where I was able to get the lastest and best chemo treatments, with the hopes of living to see my grandchildren. I really am grateful for everything that is, and has been done for me. It is a blessing to live in this country with the access to medical care that we have. I do however do not doubt for a minute that the big business of pharmaceutical drugs can influence how we are being treated, or not. My daughter has a rare immune deficiency and would not be alive if it were not for the IVIG treatment she receives, which are relatively new and at great costs. I thank the pharmacy that delivers her the life saving antibodies, and the pharmaceutical companies that developed them. So I am really hesitant to point fingers or make assumptions about our medical community.........However I took tamoxifen for almost one year. I was a total basket case on that stuff and had severe leg cramps like charlie horses that I had never had in my life. I actually became delusional at which point they gave me more pills and more pills, it got worse and worse. I became very mentally ill. Finally one day I couldn't take it anymore and realized that it had to be the tamoxifen. I stopped all the meds, including the tomoxifen. Within days I was feeling better, in a few weeks I was starting to feel normal again. After two months I was completely normal again. I kept asking if it could be the tamoxifen and they said no, yet after I got my mind back I started reading and researching everything I could find on tamoxifen. I am not the only woman who became mentally ill and delusional taking it. I can not believe what an emotional roller coaster I was on. It was only after I stopped taking it that then the doctors were like, "oh yeah, that can happen" turns out severe leg cramps were also a side effect of tamoxifen. I am not sure if my doctors just did not know, or if they feel too much liability telling me so? I got more informatin from the posts of other women who struggled with the effects of tamoxifen, who also were told there was no connection to the tamoxifen by thier doctors. Beleive me I trust other woman who actually have taken it, before a doctor who has not. The doctors acted like I was the one that was crazy. And yes I was while taking that stuff. I have had no problems what so ever since stopping it. Anyway what shocked me the most in my research is the astronomical amount of money that tamoxifen represents to the drug business, and how the tamoxifen people, despite not knowing the effects on women long term were pushing very hard to get FDA approval for this drug to be used as a preventative against BC. I am grateful to have the option of tamoxifen since I had BC, and I am happy for those who can take it and the lives it could be saving, but I was shocked to see that they were trying to push it on healthy women. Something just did not sit right with me on that one............
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I have been on Tamoxifen for about 3 months. Prior to that on Arimidex or Aromasin. The Onc switched because I became a big puddle of tears. I felt horrible. I was given a month off and it did wonders for me. Now on Tamoxifen my only side effect seems to be "hot flashes" and this are a billion times worse than menopause, but I will take that over the alternative any day of the week.
I also only did "natural" but those I know that did "natural" with breast cancer have died. A friend of mine and I decided way back after watching this wonderful people pass that if either of us got cancer we would do standard medical first. She developed cancer, did standard medical and I much later BC have done standard medical.
You have to make your own decision and that is difficult if someone well meaning is trying to sway you. I am sure the help is well intended.
Do your research first and talk to your Oncologist. Tamoxifen is not the only drug, talk to your Onc. tell him/her what you are thinking about doing.
Best of luck to you honey!
S
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I have not taken the tamoxifen for 2 months, it was making me feel really awful, memory loss, depression, nauseous, off balance, my quality of life was really affected, I have been on it for 3.5 years. Has any one else stopped taking it after 3.5 years?
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From what I am currently hearing, the majority of Tamoxifen's powerful effect is in the first two years, so you've already done that. Talk to your doctor about that.
I believe there is a bit of truth in all angles on this disease and deeply respect the wonderful and varied voices, but on some level, I think it's dangerous to suggest resentment causes cancer, and once we remove that, we'll be cancer-free. When I look at the three women I know who have cancer right now, one is a joyous, completely privileged mother of two and famous designer. I can report she had and has absolutely no resentment (or difficulty in life) whatever.
If you look at environmental issues, like the number of cancer cases in those exposed to Chernobyl, that is a point of real discussion. But until some studies show that resentment causes cancer, I'm fearful for what it might do for people not making logical decisions on this very complicated and harsh journey.
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Has anyone else stopped tamoxifen after 3 1/2 years without recurrence?
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Hi Bluesky. Just got into this site and read your email. You are a mirror of what I am feeling and thinking. Taking tamoxifen for three years and want to stop. Has anyone stopped taking it ???? Have you found anything out ?????
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I stopped after just over 2 years. First I was on Arimidex and was switched to Tamoxifen. The Tamoxifen gave me pancreatitis, so it was a no brainer to stop. I was relieved to be able to stop, but at the same time, it was as difficult to stop as it was to start. I did have the support of my onc. It's only been a year and 5 months since I stopped, so probably too early to know about recurrence. Also, my grade is not as high as yours bluesky. If you are bound and determined to stop, I would definately talk to your onc. No one can force you to do anything you don't want to do. If I were to have a recurrence, I'm not sure that I would necessarily think it was because I didn't go the full course of medication, but, its a choice we all have to make for ourselves. I guess that you need to determine if you can live with the choice. I'm ok with mine. Good-luck!!
Edited to add: Sorry ladies, I didn't realize I was on a stage lll thread. That's what happens when I don't mind my ouw business
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Bluesky.....I endured AI's as well as tamox for 3 1/2 years....if there was a side effect, I had it. I was taking Rx after Rx to counter the side effects of the AI's as well as 3 wrist surgeries. My QOL of life was suffering in every aspect....Finally I said, enough is enough and stopped taking them...That was on March 15, 2010....its now 3 years and 2 months later and I con't to be NED.....my QOL is much better...I no longer take all the Rx....I made peace with my decision to stop the AI's when I stopped them....actually if I had my way, I would have stopped sooner, but I hung in there cuz my onc kept telling me the benefits for me.....well....the benefits of not taking the AI's for me, outweigh taking them....if G-d forbid the beast returns, I know in my heart that I have given it my all...Feel free to message me if you want to talk, and I'll give you my phone number....Karen
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