November 2009-Starting Chemo

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  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    I will be due for scans pretty soon. Right now I've only had abdominal MRIs every two months to check the liver. My onc thinks the sternum area is just uptake from a car accident I had in Feb 09. My car was totaled, foot broken, and chest severely bruised from the seat belt. The uptake, however, showed up on the Bone Scan, but not on the PET/CT. Because of this, he listed me as possible sternum mets in order to give me Zometa to keep the cancer out of my bones.

    As of now, I am NED and finished w/ all treatment except my naked Herceptin and Zometa, which I will take for life.

    It's interesting. I brought up the subject of Stage IV sub-categories to the rads onc instead of lumping all forms into a single category. Stage 4a for a single met to a single area (me), Stage 4b to multiple mets to a single area...and so on. She said the ACS is looking into this. I guess I just need something to hold onto...

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Linda: I like your thinking about sub stages for IV. If I recall correctly, I would have already been called a IV but they had added that handy IIIC in there.

    It's all pretty much just a crap shoot anyway.

    Nette: Sorry to hear about the cell phone bill, I am soooo looking forward to those teenage years!! My 16yo neice just had her license a month when she ran into her house, damaged the car and the brick, thought she was in reverse but was in drive, what joys.

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    Other than your breast and lymph nodes, where else do you have "mets"? The one category just lumps us all together in a fire pit. I like spreading it out a little. How close are you from the TN/NC border?

    Just keep the teenage horror stories coming. Yikes!! My daughter is 7, as knows more about my cell phone than I do! My 11 year-old-neighbor just got her first cell phone. ELEVEN!!! Ugh!

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Linda, I think that spot under the pec muscle would have put me at a IV if this was years ago. I think that is what I was told when the first scans were done.

    I live outside Nashville, if you ever head west, I'll head east and we can meet up somewhere!

    My kids are 11 and 13 (they just had their birthdays!). I bought one of those "pay as you go" cell phones where you just add minutes when needed. At this point, they are pretty much with me or their Dad so they have no real use for a cell phone. But, they are little homeschooled freaks (I say that with love, that is what we call ourselves).

    This compute stuff is out of control. I can't afford to keep our technology current.

    I did treat myself to a little boom box so I could listen to a CD in the kitchen. IPODS, MP3, all that is way beyond my scope. My little $10 boom box is as close as I need to get to the current technology!

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    My inlaws live about 30 miles from the border. We will definitely have to plan a get together!

    I do have an MP3 that my DH downloads music to. I listen to it when I work out. However, now that little bugger is dusty and probably run down from lack of use :)

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Here is the update:

    Went to rads, got my zap, saw the doctor that examined me thoroughly the first time. The lump is definitely new. He says it feel like a peanut M & M. (I wonder how they chart that description?).

    He said it could be scar tissue but he did have me do a CT scan while I was there.

    So, I feel good that it is a valid lump worthy of looking at (I hate feeling like a hypochondriac). I am glad he did not say "wait and see" but of course it scares me that he did the CT on the spot.

    I think I must be the most scanned person I know, I have honestly lost count of the PET and the CT and the "with contrast" and the Xrays. It seems highly unlikely that anything could be lurking in there that they don't know about.

    I guess I will know something soon enough.

    I'll be crocheting on Valium until then.

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited July 2010

    Melinda ~ I will keep on praying that it is nothing more then scar tissue.  Pop your valium who could blame you.  Thinking of you.

  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited July 2010

    Personally, I think there is no such thing as a hypochondriac when you've had cancer.  A "lump" put us where we were and so now, every little thing that appears is scary.  Who can blame us for being hyper-vigilant after what we've been through??!!  So, Melinda, you have every right to be concerned.  And a "name" for it also gives us something to Google.  :)

    Yep, those cell phones can be a blessing or a curse.  I put off getting both my kids one until they were well into high school, just not knowing what problems the phones would cause and also cuz I had no desire to start paying for them.

    As for the iPods, I have an iPod shuffle that I would not trade for the world!  I have 12 hrs. of music on it and that's what I work out with.  Couldn't imagine taking my daily walks or working out without it.  Is a tremendous motivator for me.  For course, my DD had to load it the first time and now she keeps me straight whenever I want to load or change the tunes.  But, all it does is plays music, skips/replays songs, and has a volume control...no movies, books, or anything else that would confuse me!

    Have a great Day!  Nette

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: Hold on to the thought that it would be very unusual for a tumour to grow that quickly considering you were grade 2 in the first place. More hugs from Oz ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))

    The bs said that lots of women over the age of 50 have goitres. My mother had one back when I was 10 an another recently at age 82. It could be cancerous but she didn't push me to have a biopsy. These days they remove the whole thyroid gland which is rather delicate surgery. I just want to get the herceptin over with, then wait and see on the thyroid. As long as it's not causing swallowing or breathing problems she said we can leave it alone for now.

    Something nice happened when I went to see the bs the other day. I went in and sat down and this man gave me a big smile and said "Your hair is such a lovely colour". He was there with his wife who was about to have her last chemo for bc. She was wearing a hat to cover her bald head. It turned out they live right around the corner from me and I used to be friends with their neighbour about 25 years ago. They have just moved to another suburb, but what a pity we didn't know each other - she and I could have been having coffee and keeping each other company throughout the whole thing.

    It really made my day, it's not often a man is so complimentary. Seeing me gave them hope her hair would grow back too.

    This guy at work (who no one likes) had a go at me on Monday about my hair line at the back of my neck being scrappy - what a prick!!!! It really bothered me, so on Tuesday I went and had my first 'hair cut'. The girls in the salon were pleased to see how it's coming back and one of them trimmed the back and again didn't charge me. Some people in this world are nice.

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Here is today's update:

    We don't know what it is.... and we can't stick a needle in the damn thing until after rads are done because I won't heal while taking rads.

    So, he is adding a bolus and upping the dose. If it gets bigger, it is probably scar tissue. If it gets smaller, it is soft tissue cancer (it is not growing out of my rib, it is soft tissue).

    After rads are done, it will be biopsied.

    Personally, I can't see them radiaiting the hell out of something that may be scar tissue, so I don't have a good feeling about it. I did feel sorry for the Rad Onc, he was having such a hard time trying to spit it out, you would think that they would be used to saying stuff like that.

    Upping the rads will increase my chance for burns. I hate toting around things like this, just cut the son-of-a-bitch out! Maybe my skin will burn straight through and the damn thing will just fall out!

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited July 2010

    Melinda....  ugh !!!  I hate that you still have no answer.  This just sucks ~  really no other way of putting it.  When are rads done?  I can't wait till they biopsy it.  This is really unacceptable.  Hang tough sister !!!

    HUGS !!!!!!!!!!!

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Alicia, today was my 15th zap. They will start adding the bolus tomorrow.

    I will see my Onc next Thursday for my naked Herceptin. Maybe he will have more answers.

    I did wear my dreadlocks to my last infusion, he wanted some so I have made a a nice long set. Maybe I can use them for collateral, "you want the dreads??stick a needle in that thing!".

    I do understand that they can't cut me open during rads, but a little needle?? You would think that wouldn't be that bad.

    But, if it is more cancer, at least a have a little more time to enjoy my cancer free delusional state of mind. And really, there is nothing they would do differently right now. So we up the zapping and hope for the best.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: What if it's a fluid build up or a swollen lymph node. I don't like the sound of upping the rads dose especially when they don't know what it is.

    (((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Sue: That is a very good point you made. When they said they are adding a bolus, I felt pretty confidant that they suspect cancer. My feeling is that Rad Onc won't say it since it can't be IDd with certainty without a biopsy.

    But when you think about it, that does sound irresponsible "let's just treat it like cancer".

    I think my brain says that they know, they just want my regular Onc to tell me. I'll see him Thursday. I am getting real OK with it. If it is spreading, at least it is in the same general area, not somewhere far away. Well, far away would be ok if it was like Mars are something.

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    I'm holding your hand praying for good news!

  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited July 2010

    ummmm...what's a bolus?

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: They can't know until they biopsy it.  Things can look suspicious on a CT scan but not be nasty. I remember Steve had a CT scan one time and the report was going on about lymph nodes looking dodgy in the gastric area - he was so freaked out. A PET showed absolutely nothing which has proven to be true many years later. Our onc reads the scans himself and then reads the report. That's why I think he's the best. He was away at the time and wasn't impressed his replacement had put Steve through all that crap.

    Well, week 1 of work over. I must admit I was really tired yesterday by the time I came home. The 4 hours is just right for now. None of my work clothes fit so I'll have to start eating chocolate again :)

    Have a lovely weekend everyone !!!!!

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Sue: Are you saying you have lost weight? How did you manage that, I need some tips.

    Nette: A bolus is something they put over the spot to trick the machine into thinking you are bigger than you are so the zap will be more superficial. You would think they would just aim the laser higher, but what the hell do I know.

    Bolus and boost, my new vocabulary words. I will bolus now and boost later.

    I am going to try and enjoy my weekend and just not give a rat's ass.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: Yes, I've lost a lot of weight - about 19lbs. First from the diagnosis freak out and then from the chemo. My GP took a baseline weight a week or so ago so we can keep an eye on it. A lot of food I craved while on chemo no longer does it for me - chocolate being one thing. I seem to eat less now too. I no longer take HRT so maybe that is why I've trimmed down - it's certainly not from exercising seeing I haven't done any at all.

    Sue

  • mabelle
    mabelle Member Posts: 80
    edited July 2010

    Just checking in...

    Melinda - I'm sending you lots of positive thoughts! Have a great weekend and try not to think about it too much. 

    I've just finished # 24, only 4 more to go. I swear I felt the burn today. 2 days off!!

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    Darn Sue, I've gained 15 lbs so far. None of my pants fit. It sucks when it hurts after you eat because your pants cut into your gut! ARGH!!!! I'm glad my man likes a woman with a little meat on her bones!

    I did a bolus every other day. Plus 5 boosts. It zaps the skin instead of zapping the internal organs. I have to admit that my skin held up pretty good. Use the cream ALL THE TIME!

    Mabelle, Hi! Your almost there! The last week is the worst cause it's so long. Love!!!!!!!!

    Live it up Melinda...Enjoy!

  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited July 2010

    Thanks for the explanation, Melinda. I had Googled it but the explan. there was not what you said.  I'm glad I asked you.  The experience of Sue's husband sounds encouraging.

    Not to "rub it in," but I lost 12 lbs. from diagnosis to beginning Taxol.  Part of mine was due to the bad taste buds half-way through and part was at the very beginning with the anxiety after being diagnosed.  The book, After Breast Cancer, says that after treatment, you'll either be 10 lbs. lighter or 15 heavier.  Go figure.

    Have a great weekend, everyone!!  Go raise some hell, Melinda!  Nette

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Girls,

    I made a mistake, I've lost 22lbs and I forgot to mention I still weigh 189lbs so I defnitely needed to lose it. The last 2 treatments stuffed me up, I didn't really eat much. I'd start to eat and then had to spit it out - go figure.

    Mabelle: Wow, you're nearly there!!!! It will be over before you know it.

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Sue: I haven't had my coffee and when I read your post I thought "Oh, rub it in that you lost even more weight!" Ha ha.

    Nette: that is interestesting that the book says you will either gain 15 or lose 10, that seems to be pretty true from what we have seen around here. I guess we are all just passing in around.

    I found Sue's 22 pounds, Linda found Nette's...

    Mabelle: Will you be done Thursday? That is wonderful!

    Big Hug to everyone, have a great weekend.

  • JustmeAlicia
    JustmeAlicia Member Posts: 1,529
    edited July 2010

    Melinda ~ I like your thinking enjoy the weekend and don't give a rats ass..........  it will be what it will be ~ don't worry till you have to worry, and even then what good will that do??  Your doing everything you can and hopefully all will be good.

    Hugs !

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: Sorry sweetie - I'm still fat though. Over here we are metric and use kilograms. I've lost 10kg which doesn't sound so much to me. It only sounds big when I convert to pounds.

    You've got more hair than me - that's more important Smile

    Sue

  • Melinda41
    Melinda41 Member Posts: 672
    edited July 2010

    Hair cannot be more important that weight...you can add hair, you could get a lady Godiva wig...but a girdle, or Spanx can only suck in so much!!

    I think I will start weighing myself in metric if it sounds smaller.

  • Cafelovr
    Cafelovr Member Posts: 1,534
    edited July 2010

    Stupid me bought Spanx one time. It's like medieval torture. Only a man could come up with that type of bondage! Should it hurt when you put on a girdle? Hmmmmm....

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2010

    Melinda: Good idea - I weigh 86kgs which is 189lbs. Just divide your weight in pounds by 2.2 and you'll be instantly lighter :)

    Sue

  • doronet
    doronet Member Posts: 342
    edited July 2010

    Sue:  I think you have just instantly made everyone feel so much lighter!!  :)

    Mabelle:  You're on the last stretch!!!  You can see the finish line!!  You go, girl!!!

    My sister bought some Spanx one time and told me she never did  get them up!  Medieval torture is right.

    I think I might actually need a real haircut within the next 2 weeks:  It' s past the tops of my ears now.  Still not growing very fast on the crown or on my forehead.  Will take me a long time to have bangs, if I decide to have them.  I must say the short -do is sure cooler in the 100+ temps we just had in Northern VA.

    Happy Sunday!!  Nette

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