Starting Chemo Feb 2010?
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Thanks Writer. I feel like celebrating today...but I'll be wiped out proably by Friday afternoon. The HER thing scares me and bums me out. I just wish after going through all this crap that I was given better odds than 80%.
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Hi, Beth - the Her2 positivity is just a part of this stupid disease - the herceptin is a very powerful drug that is targeted specifically for this cell type and I've read lots of great results have been attained with this therapy. We gotta believe! Hope you are side effect free and come out of this last treatment and move on to a long life, like we're all going to have! Mo
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Thank you, Mo. You are right..just keep truding along as if everything is going to be just fine IS the way to go! I just got a pool installed...I gotta be around to enjoy it til the warranty wears off, AT LEAST!!
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burley: I just went to a BC support group meeting where the topic was intimate issues after BC. The speaker was a NP with a GYN office and very informative. Currently the discussion is about a vaginal cream that carries a small dose of estrogen that helps to improve the quality of the vaginal wall. This is what is prescribed for folks just going thru regular menopause. Of course the issue for us with estrogen positive BC is will it cause recurrance. According to the info from this meeting, if the wall is healthy enough estrogen will stay in that area and not become systemic, but they will do estrogen blood levels before and during treatment to assure this. Which for me is a risk I would be willing to take. It doesn't help the labido in itself, but may help with the discomfort of sex etc. Which (for me) is what is killing my sex drive. My onc is open to the discussion, says there are no definitive studies but as it becomes a quality of life issue is is a possiblity and we can discuss it when I am finished with chemo. Find someone to talk to about this, at this meeting the nurses, social worker and the new (female) Nurse P. were all very supportive and had many suggestions about how to resolve or at least talk about any of these issues. My husband has been great, but there is no way it would be good for our marriage to give this up completely forever. Oh, and by the way one phrase used "Use it or Lose it" ...apparently ignoring the issue and postponing doing anything is the worst- as the tissue walls will just continue to get thinner and the vagina will actually shrink down to a point - well lets just say of no return. Every one of the 20 or so women at this group chimed in that this is a problem- we are not alone.
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Yes, the wispy, baby, colorless, sort-of-hair! What's up with that! My hair stylist friend has helped many clients through this, and she advises keeping it trimmed, because it's not the real thing. So I'm going to stop in there and have her do that. It's pretty creepy.
As for sex, I haven't had much interest but don't want it to go away and have been more concerned that my husband seems to have lost all interest. I'm sure he's a little freaked out by my situation, and it's true that I've only felt really good about a week or so a month. Hopefully things will improve now that chemo is done.
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Hi ladies - I'm happy to report that I had my final Taxol treatment today! My husband is out of town for 2 weeks on a work project so I had to go alone. He was very reluctant to leave me but I have family in town to help if I need it. Treatment went smoothly and Clinic gave me a Certificate of Completion and a bottle of Sparkling Grape Juice! No Neulasta for me tomorrow, so things are looking up.
Met with Rads Onc yesterday and will start in 4 weeks - 33 treatments and then on to Tamoxifen for 5 years. No armpit radiation since I had full axillary dissection but he will widen the field to include level 3 nodes sub clavicular. He assured me that the procedure has become so focused that heart/lung damage is a thing of the past. I asked about being at greater risk for LE and he said that they will monitor that closely and it depends how a body deals with delayed scarring.
I have really appreciated being a part of this group and I hope it lives on even though we're on to different treatment phases. I love how the discussion has circled back around to hair! At the beginning of chemo it was all about losing it and now as we approach the end it's all about getting it back!
Thanks to all of you for your kind words, insight, strength, humor and spirit ~~ you really kept me going throughout chemo! I wish each of you continued courage...Gina
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Beth-I too get freaked out about the Her2 as well. I, like Mo, have read such great things about Herceptin, so,I really try and focus on that. Also, I just started some counseling to deal with that issue as well as just dealing with the nightmare of the last 5 months. I want to learn how to live my life without the fear of reoccurance. This counselor I met with is one whom my onc recommended. So she is very familiar with cancer survivors. So, I am hoping that this will help too.
As for sex, it isn't one of my top priorities, and hoping that it will get better. I am sure hubby is hoping the same
Hope that everyone is doing well and feeling good.
V
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Thinning out to the point of no return??! Egads! I better use it or lose it. That would truly suck.
Doing ok after treatment #6 yesterday. Tired, and I seem to already be getting some mouth sores...but that's about it. Had the Neulasta today, so my bone pain usually starts tomorrow.
I told him the last treatment put me out for about 10 days, and he said to expect the same thing. Probably just preparing me for the worst.
My husband is working 16 hour days (which includes 2 hours of driving), and my 15 year old leaves for camp for 4 weeks tomorrow...so it will be the 10 year old and I toughing it out together. At least I only have to make her soup and Mac-N-Cheese to eat. Just gotta make sure I feed myself!
It's 11:24pm and he hasn't left work yet...big sigh
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I think I'm starting to get some hair on my head...or at least something that may pass as hair. It's that weird clear stuff that we all are apparently getting or gonna get. It;s about 1/4 inch long and looks like fishing wire lol. Its so colorless that of course I still look bald so still wearing my headwraps. My son graduated from high school yesterday and after the ceremony, a woman that I've never seen before came over and gave me a big hug and wished me well. I could tell by HER short "do" that she also is a BC survivor. She said that she was one month out of treatment, and she had about an inch of gray (not colorless) hair, and she looked good! I am almost a month out of chemo and my hair isn't anywhere close to that. Some day......anyway it was very sweet of her to touch base with me.
26 more rads treatments to go, and feeling fine. Just some achiness in my legs that may be due to the Tamoxifen, i don't know. Not anywhere close to the Taxol bone pain, so i'll deal. I've gotten really good at outlining my eyes with liquid eyeliner so unless you look really close, you can't tell about the missing lashes.Actually I still have a decent amount on top, but like nothing left on the bottom. All my nails (fingers and toes) are still present and accounted for though, so I guess I am keeping them.
Wishing all a great weekend!!
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It's the first official day of summer break, and my 10 year old is already driving me crazy! This is gonna be a long summer with me going through chemo. I just want to rest and do what I normally do, but she wants to have a friend over and make noise. I wonder where the happy medium will come into play.
Doing ok since treatment on Thursday-bone pain is centered in my neck and upper chest so far. Hasn't moved down into my legs and hips yet. I got so lucky with the Neulasta the first 2 times with no reaction. Now it's terrible.
I'm dying in this Arizona heat! Not a good time of year for hot flashes, for sure.
I hope everyone is doing well.
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Burley: I'm so sorry the bone pain has hit harder this time. Hate that neck pain. I can imagine the AZ heat this time of year. We just got to 85 today and got a cool spell tonight; and you are probably at over 100 down there. Can someone take the kids for you during the day so you can have a break? Call in whatever markers you have. Thinking of you.
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My Onc prescribed Neurontin for the hot flashes-just picked it up so let's hope it helps. It's supposed to take about 3 weeks to take effect. Causes sleepiness-and I'm supposed to take it 3 times a day! I think there's something wrong with that. I'll have to call the doctor tomorrow to verify. The pharmacist was surprised at me having to take it 3 times a day, so that makes me nervous. I thought it was funny-my Onc saying, "what, do you have like 2 or 3 a night?" I'm like, "no, try every half hour." ugh
The bone pain is not near as bad as the last treatment. Just shooting pain in my joints, mostly in my legs and ankles. The neck pain is almost gone.
This AZ heat is definitely making the hot flashes worse! If my kids weren't born here, I would so move away.
Where has everyone gone?!
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burley--my onc put me on neurontin too & the sleepiness only lasted for a few days until i got use to it. i only take it twice a day though.
this last treatment went a bit better thanks to the vicodin. still hurt all weekend & even still a bit. also feel like i'm getting the neuropathy in hands & feet. am seeing the onc tomorrow - so will be discussing that.
watching all of you across the country getting warmer temps than we are blessed with here in the nw. it has been like this all winter-overcast, gray, drizzle....so sick of it. maybe i'll move to arizona.
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Hi ladies, I'm gearing up for my last treatment on thursday. I am both dreading it and looking forward to it, you know how it is... I got put on emend last time around, I have to say that by the second day out (the day after I stop taking emend), I felt really crummy ~ not quite nauseous but on the edge all weekend. I hate to think what it woudl've been like had I NOT been put on emend. Yuk.
I get to see how these 6 treatments went before we decide surgical options. My surgeon is leaning towards mastectomy but I'm hoping tumor is shrunk down enough I can do a lumpectomy. I'm BRAC negative so no clear reason to go Mx route. WIll cross that road after new MRIs...
Arizona is HOT. Not a lot of fun this week for sure.
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Ok, I am freaking out a bit! My surgeon said that I should have an MRI before rads, so I did, and wouldn't you know it throws off a 4mm somthing close to my surgical site and ultrasound can't pick it up...so my Dr.'s are discussing to biopsy it or just start my rads and check again in 6 months!! If I biopsy it, I won't be able to fit rads in before my BIG vacation! My gut is telling me it isn't anything after going through Chemo...and if it is anything the rads may knock it out....At the moment I am wishing I had a mastectomy! The MRI guided biopsy was one of my worst experiences thus far, even over chemo SE's.
Congrats to those finishing Chemo!!! I am a month out from my last TX and I have definite signs of dark hair growth on my head and I am amazed at how much energy I have. My big toe though went to sleep about 2 weeks after my last TX, neuropathy I guess.
Take care ladies!
Leta
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Hi ladies! Just got back from Taxol #7. 5 more to go. SE have been so varied for me on this drug that I have NO idea what the heck to expect this week. Last week I had zero appetite again and food was back to tasting weird, but neuropathy was reduced. Also last weekend I had my first "fever" that I had to take Cipro for, it only lasted one day- but pretty much freaked out DH. We got scolded for not calling the Onc on the weekend. (oops). Anyway it has made me a bit nervous for our long weekend trip to Colo.
On top of that I am leaving my 16 year old Jack Russell Terrier at home with my 20 year old kid- he is in "decline" and we will have to make a "decision" within the next few months- I really need him to hang on until this cancer mess is done! There is just nothing more comforting in the middle of the night than snuggling with him. He has a vet appt tomorrow so I can get him some stronger drugs for his hips. He is on almost as many meds as me!
Weather here- typical, clear skys and warm during the day--strong storms in the evening. Tornado watch coverage killed watching the network TV last night. Temps are not too bad, but the humidity is beginning to climb- and therefore its time to escape to Colorado for the weekend. Still "mud season" up there- but cooler.
Hang in there- we are all weary soldiers at this point.
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leta- all of my toes went to sleep for a whole week on Taxol week 5 for me. Oncs were not happy and almost reduced the dose- but now they are back to normal again.- I don't know if it helped or not, but it seemed like my short morning walks improved the feeling in my toes.
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Hi - weary soldiers is a good way to describe us all, I think. I know my patience with all this is wearing a little thin and I'm ready to be done with it all. But, that's not going to happen for some time, so I'll just knuckle down for the ride.
Had surgery on Monday to clean up the margins around lumpectomy site and also had the strange lump under my arm removed - surgeon assures me it was just a fatty tumor, but I will have the official biopsy tomorrow - don't feel like I can breathe until I get all the news back from that. My husband keeps insisting it's all going to be fine, but I just want the official news so I can get on with life - and radiation and continued herceptin! Woohoo!!
Raining here and I'm grumpy. Looking forward to the sunshine tomorrow - take care, everyone - Mo
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Good to hear from you, Mo (and everyone else.) I'm sure the news will be an "all clear" and you're free to start radiation-yippee, right?
I went fron lack of appetite and losing weight, to eating all the time because I'm trying to taste something. My raw tongue and lack of taste buds is a close tie to my hot flashes for most annoying side effect. I expected the hair loss, but come on! Not being able to taste food? This truly sucks. I can only truly taste really spicy or pungent stuff, or really sweet. Had an egg salad sandwich for lunch and literally didn't taste a thing. My brother is bringing me dinner tonight and I'm hoping for something spicy! But beggars can't be choosers.
No neuropathy for me at all-I heard the Taxotere is better than Taxol in that department.
I would definitely classify myself as a weary soldier! Besides being tired in general, I'm just plain tired of all this crap.
My husband has been offered an actual job with a good company, but for way less than he's worth. It would be a serious struggle for us to make it on the pay they've offered, but there's a lot of plusses to it as well. Like he would actually come home at night, instead of 1am every day. He leaves in the morning while I'm still in bed, and comes home and I'm back in bed. It would be a no-brainer to take the job if I was working--with 2 incomes we could make it on what they're offering. But I can't see myself getting an actual job until all my surgeries are over...so like, the end of the year! I feel guilty for not being able to work. I know I shouldn't, but I do. Humpf. Like I said, I'm sick of this crap!
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kshep--so sorry to hear about your dog. we lost our 23 year old poodle a couple of years ago & it was the hardest decision ever. our remaining poodle was so depressed we thought we would lose her too. last sept we got a papillion to keep her company & she is like a puppy again. the pup turned out to be a blessing for me too, as he is really in tune with how i'm feeling. the days after treatment when i just stay in bed he stays in there with me. takes his toys, some food & some old antlers to munch on & 'guards' me. my dh complains his side of the bed looks like a coyote den.
burley--i agree about the 'raw tongue'..the texture of some food makes it very unappealing, and the taste changes are impossible to truly describe. the other day we got teriyake chicken & in the past it was mostly salty to me, but this time all i could taste was pepper & way too much. makes me wonder if after this is all over if there will be an aversion to some of my once favorite food. hope not.
take care ladies
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kshep: I understand your misgivings about leaving the 16 year old. We have a 15 year old Golden. Last fall, I lost my female Lab, and we've had to make that painful decision concerning other wonderful companions, too. My "heart dog" passed away several years ago, and I still wish she were here during all this junk. The joy they bring is immeasurable. It's good you have a snuggler. I tried many times tonight to get my pup to settle on the bed with me to no avail. No offense to the cat lovers out there, but in my mind, having a dog lay his head on you is the supreme comfort (yeah, I like spooning with my DH, but he's a dog lover, too, and understands).
Don't give up hope about the taste buds. I used to drink Coke, and it's icky to me now, but other tastes have returned. Teriyaki salmon tonight with lots of fresh ginger, yum. I got into the water-drinking habit during chemo.
Good to hear from you Mo & Burley. Hang in there (like you have a choice, right?).
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leta, so sorry you have to go through this. I'm sure it will be fine, but still....
I'm going in tomorrow to have my surgeon look at a little red spot on my cancer breast (I had a pretty major lumpectomy on the left side and reconstruction on both sides). I can feel something like a hard grain of sand under the skin. Probably just something weird left over from surgery, and I'm not losing sleep over it, but I guess we'll always be on edge about this stuff now.
For those of you with the weird, colorless crazy-baby hair: My hairstylist friend, who has helped a great many chemo clients/friends over the years, says shave it off. She says it's not real hair, and it's going to come out anyway when the real stuff comes in. So I stopped by her salon after work yesterday and she buzzed me, and it's so much better-- I should have done it weeks ago. I'd rather have a real bald head than that creepy semi-hair. She thought I might get some more of that baby hair (I'm 15 days past my final chemo) and might want to buzz it one more time, and then the real stuff should start coming in.
Taste buds are fighting to come back. I could taste a little bit today.... not much, but an improvement over the previous week, where everything was cardboard, glue and pencil shavings.
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It has taken me 12 days to recover from number 5, the worst yet. I did have Emend for the first time and that took care of the sickness and nausea which has plagued me throughout but the fatigue and general " unwellness" was horrible. I have lost my taste this time and have been suffering with pain in the bones in my face. The glands in my neck have been painful but by far the worst are the hot flushes. They occur at regular intervals all night and I have forgotten what a good nights sleep is. I bought a Chillow Pillow on the internet which is very good and actually stays cold for a long time and does re-cool on its own quite quickly. I also have a hand fan and an electric one. I hear that the flushes are with me for a long time while I take tamoxifen from next month. 6th one next Thursday and then Herceptin which also frightens me. I think the term weary soldiers is briliant.
retrievermom thank goodness for our Goldens. I have two boys. My previous boy slept on the corner of our bed for 6 years and I loved it.
Kshep, my boys are 11 and 12, one is deaf, nearly blind and very confused at times so I think I will have decision to make soon. Horrible isn't it. Good luck weary soldiers not long to go now. What a journey!
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I am 6 days from my last Taxol and still tired. I missed work Mon and have been late every morning since because I'm too tired to get out of bed! I'm typically an early riser but the cumulative effect of chemo must be kicking in. I do feel like a weary soldier!
I have a 14 month Alaskan Malamute who has been a huge part of my therapy and recovery. He's a sweet boy but shedding like crazy right now. Even though he can be a snuggler he's still a big puppy and can be rough and clumsy. I still have to watch my surgery site when he jumps on the bed. He's gotten me so many times with his head, nose, paws I say "Oh great, there goes my last good boob!" Like many of you, we had to put down our old guy 1.5 years ago and it still makes me sad. It's an awful decision to make because you never want to do it too soon or too late. You never want them to suffer, but it's still so hard to do.
Leta- I hope all turns out well for you. It stinks that you have to worry about this, too. Gina
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It's awesome so many of us are animal lovers! I truly think they help in times like these. It's nice to have someone who is always happy to see you, always welcomes attention and gives it back, someone to snuggle with. I personally have 4 dogs and 3 cats, so there's always someone in bed with me. And my dog is really in tune with what I'm going through. He's constantly checking up on me in bed, as he's huge and the perfect height to put his nose right in my face while I'm sleeping. Ha!
I'll wait until I'm completely done, then probably shave the fine hairs. We'll see how many of them fall out with these last 2 treatments. I've lost a lot more eyelashes over the last few weeks, so I'm wearing my glasses a lot to hide the fact that my eyes look terrible! Really dark circles around my eyes too. When I'm bald and makeup free, I definitely look like a chemo patient.
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My kitty, Imp, is a snuggler, too. He's always plastered up against my leg. I lost his sister a few months ago due to renal problems at only 6. He can smell the chemo on my skin. He especially "interrogates" me when I get home from infusion. He will climb on to my lap and gives my breath a good smell. He then obsesses over my hands, sniffing them and then scent-marking them by rubbing his cheeks all over them until I smell "right" again.
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Hi ladies, fellow travelers. Just finished my last infusin (neulasta tomorrow). And, oh joy, a blood transfusion on saturday, which sort of explains the increased fatigue (I had chalked it up to cumulative SEs). Have a good attitude; my DH went with me and we walked into hospital this morning hand in hand vowing to kick some cancer ass today. He's been such a cheerleader, am very lucky. But have to say tho, after #5, was a longer rebound (but like the emend they gave me finally at #5), last of my eyelashes are falling out and my nails look like hell. They didn't offer the icing thing, and I didn't think to ask, is there anything besides taking glutamine and vit B now?
Some of my hair is still hanging in, not much at all mind you, but enough that I don't feel like a total freak wearing a ballcap outside the house as there is some strands in the back which makes me look like I have thin but very short hair. Not sure if it's going to fall out or what. I'm not very curious about this gray or transulcent stubble everyone is talking about. If we don't shave it down, does hairdresser think it will grow in slower? Hmm.
So many questions. Just when you think you got some semblance of a clue going through multiple rounds of chemo, now this hair business. (And surgery then rads for me... but I'll cross those bridges after I get through next week!) Thanks for the kind words and feedback...
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Thinking about and praying for all of my February sisters still going through chemo treatments, strange bumps or twinges, and all things breast cancer. Chemo is a tough one. I am now 6 weeks out from my last TC treatment and began my 5 years of daily Arimidex pills. Just this week, I am feeling more energy and a sense of well-being, but oh the hot flashes.
I had been feeling pretty down after my last chemo treatment. I think it was the cumulative effect of the chemo treatments. Fatigue seems to be hanging on.
Now if I could just get a handle on these hot flashes!! Neurontin for hot flashes? Thanks for the heads up, I'll ask about it. Going from 98 degrees to 1,000 degrees in a few seconds feels awful.
Yes, I am the bald headed, scarfed, or bewigged lady you see madly fanning herself at the store. Take care, ladies and may your SEs be tolerable.
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My dog is a 17 yr old Sheppard mix, she has trouble walking and needs to be helped up at times, esp with stairs. But she doesn't seem to be in any discomfort (the one in discomfort would be me since I am the one picking her up). As long as she seems happy and essentially pain-free, I don't have the heart to put her down. I also have 3 cats, one of whom sleeps with me. My son talked me into adopting a kitten a few weeks ago and he is just the sweetest, most affectionate thing. I don't know what I would do without my furry family.
Feeling really pretty good! I am a month out of chemo. Food tastes great, and so far I am trying really hard to keep the weight off that I lost with chemo. So far so good, even with the Tamoxifen. I now NO eyebrows at all--so now I have a look of perpetual surprise. Funny weird baby chicken hair on my head, and I know its not real hair and I should probably have it shaved off but I can't help running my hands over it and feeling like I have something growing there. No hair anywhere else, and lashes are still falling out. Neuropathy has not changed, still there, its worse in my feet and in the evening I just cannot get comfortable. No real hot flashes to speak of though, I mean I get where I think, wow its warm in here, but that is about it (so far). Been on Tamoxifen for about 10 days now so not sure if that will make it worse.Rads is going well, I am about 1/3 done with no SE's that I can ascertain. I don't even feel tired yet. Or maybe I am still so tired from the chemo that I can't tell the difference.
Leta--wow, sorry to hear about your 4mm something, I am sure it is nothing, but you think after all this chemo we wouldn't have to worry about anything. Writer--same also about the red spot near your surgery. It's awful how we have to worry (a little) about everything. Mo--same to you, good luck on your path report, again, I am sure its nothing but I remember how freaked I was when I had to have another biopsy. Burley--I hope you feel better, esp with the hot flashes AND living in AZ. . It just seems like our problems will never end.....hot flashes, abnormal test results, unknown lumps, fatigue, bone pain, repeat surgeries, hair loss, GI problems, sigh....
OK, enough whining (and I really have little to whine about compared to what some of you are still going thru!) Hang in there, and wishing all my chemo sisters a SE weekend. Take care!
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Dear sisters, great to see so many of us have finished.
I'm back from vacation!! After 6 rounds of TC we went on a cruise and had a relaxing time - although I am tired after the trip. My port didn't cause any trouble at the airports. Before I went, I got a sleeve and a glove fitted to wear on the plane to prevent any onset of lymphedema, and I did wear them both ways.
While on the ship I read from the library a really good book called "Anticancer, A New Way of Life" by a doctor who went through brain tumor twice. I don't remember if anyone has recommended it, but if you haven't read it I highly recommend that you pick up a copy from your local library. The key idea is that cancer grows over a rather long period of time, and that although surgery/chemo/rads are quick and effective ways of dealing with it, we need to take care of the "terrain" which started and fueled the cancer growth to begin with. And we do this through life style changes to make sure that it does not grow again. The idea is not that new, but it is written in a very logical and convincing way.
In addition to the specific things to do/notdo that are recommended, the book also talks about how the author went from being a doctor to being a patient. The author also has a website which I plan to check out soon. (I am NOT getting any commission for promoting this book
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Leta, I hope the results are good - fingers crossed for you.
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