What made you decide not to recon
I'm trying to decide on reconstruction or not. Leaning more on the not side. But I was hoping that some of you ladies ould share some of your thoughts on why you decided to opt out of reconstruction. I have LCIS and need to make my decision soon. Any and all thoughts would be nice. Thank you.
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I had a breast reduction years ago due to arthritis in my neck causing bone spurs to grow into the back of my throat. I HATED my breasts for causing that agony! With the surgery I had beautiful perky breasts for a 50 year old, but they never felt like mine again. It took a year for me to get sensation back in one of the nipples. So having no weight on my chest has been a Godsend.
When I've had my scares (2 lumpectomies and 2 additional biopsies) I knew I'd never get recon. I have other health issues and to put myself into yet more surgery was not smart. I did not want to focus anymore attention on my breasts. They'd taken up enough of my life. I was 38D in grade 9. Not having to worry about clothing issues and gaping buttons has been wonderful! I feel much slimmer and move and stand way better as well.
I looked at a LOT of pictures on a LOT of websites and didn't like the scarring I saw with the surgeries. To me, it wasn't worth keeping the breasts just to have bumps in my clothes if they weren't going to look good naked. I am not that concerned about body image at 52, but still dress girly with make-up and jewelry and stuff. Just no boobs.
I needed, had to, get back to work as quickly as possible due to financial issues and the quickest way was mast. As I'd already had 2 surgeries on my right breast - the non-cancer side - I said take them both off. Now I'm not lop-sided weight wise, so my neck is fine. I sweat enough as it is without a heavy gel form. My breasts were a 42D so my form would be awfully big.
I have been VERY comfortable with my decision and the first time I have felt even a bit sad is when I consider holding my new grandchild in September in my arms and not have the bosom to cuddle him with.....sigh.
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Barbe, you'll have LOVE to give to that baby. I cuddled my new granddaughter without any problem on the mast side and the boob side after she was born. Same love.
It's his/her MOTHER who needs the breast for te baby....
eah
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There were so many things that led me to the decision not to have recon. Here is the short form version.
1. I didn't want to spend any more time on surgeries and recuperation. I just wanted to get back to 'normal'.
2. I read about a lot of people who had pain and complications. My understanding is that the process after mast is VERY different from surgery for enhancement.
3. I didn't want to have 'dead' bumps on my chest. Yes, I know that will seem offensive to some, but that is my personal feelings about recon...for me.
4. I wanted to make any recurances easy to find. Didn't want to give lumps and bumps anywhere to hide. Didn't want to rely on imaging tests. They had already let me down.
5. I spent my life with rather large boobs. My shoulders had dents in them from bra straps. They made it difficult to exercise properly. My back and shoulders were achy from carrying them around.
6. I didn't like any of the options. Wasn't crazy about the idea of having a foreign object on my body. And the option of using your own belly fat made me uncomfortable because it is known to store estrogen and that was a fuel for my cancer.
7. Two weeks before this all began for me, a new woman started at my workplace. She eventually shared that she had dble mast with no recon. She didn't wear foobies...and no one even noticed. She was very happy and comfortable with her decision. That was big for me.
I have never regretted my decision. On hot days, I joke with the girls at work about their sweaty boobs and confining bras. I can wear cute little tank tops now. I can jog without any 'hinderences'. I can put on my big boobs or my small boobs if I want to. But I hardly ever, ever wear them. I have some feeling in my chest and I don't know if I would have if there was an implant between the layers.
I hope this helps with your decision.
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After my first diagnosis I attempted TRAM recon and it failed. Three months later I was diagnosed the second time with a new primary and had my second mastectomy. Three months after that I was found out I am BRCA 2+ and chose to have an oophorectomy/hysterectomy to hopefully, avoid ovarian cancer.
Last October I had scar revision surgery to bring my chest as flat as possible and to clean up my abdominal scar. I am done. After trying to "get back" what cancer took away, I realize I'm better off without breasts. I was a 36DD with back problems and now I can run without them bouncing and hurting. I choose not to wear anything and it works for me.
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I decided not to have reconstruction because the different methods all have major draw backs as far as I am concerned. The idea of putting an implant under my pec muscles made me very, very uneasy. I am very active (rock climb and hike) so do not want to interfere with the function of the pec muscles. Lat or tram flaps would have been out of the question for the same reason. I might have considered DIEP reconstruction except it is such a major surgery. I had two surgeries in the six months before I had my mastectomy - a total hip replacement and a lumpectomy, an excisional biopsy and an SNB. I was tired of surgeries and didn't want to sign up for more. Also, I would have not been able to have a DIEP done locally. The idea of having to find a plastic surgeon and fight with my insurance company to go out of network was overwhelming.
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I was 47 when dx already had my kids, nursing never went well as they all had allergies. I was more concernered with the removal or the C then afterwards. I was advised to wait till after treatments by onc & did not want to go under the knife again. I had a right mast. There are single side issues but I would not ever put anything foreign into me.
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I've posted my answer several times---you may want to search this as there are some beautiful responses on various threads.
Also, Breastfree.org, started by one of our gals here, has some beautiful essays on reasons reconstruction was skipped.
For me, I am a worrier. I did not want the 6 months MRI, 6 months mammogram (which never found my lobular cancer) and the "waiting for the shoe to drop" feeling.
I loved my breasts. I had huge sexual response from them and it is something I miss very much, but who can think of sex when they are constantly worried about the next scan....add to that, the hormonals I am on. Let's just say that arena is less important for me.
I schlepped 34-36D cups most of my adult life and confess that the freedom of not getting oogled, the money saved on bras (I go flat and figure that is my benefit of having to lose breasts), the freedom of jogging/running without getting black eyes...sleeping on my chest with little discomfort....no sagging. I guess those are my silver lining for a stupid disease no one would elect to have.
Thankfully, my DH is a "leg & a$$" man, so this wasn't even a blip on his radar, except for concern on my feelings.
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Lucylou, I just reread your post and saw that you said you have to make a decision soon. That's not entirely accurate. If you're leaning towards no recon, then that's what you should do, but realize the option will always be there in the future if you change your mind.
Leah
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Thank you to all of you gals that gave me your thought and opinions. The reason I say i need to decide is that i hope to be getting a job as a bus driver this next school year. And I would like to have this surgery before then and hopefully healed by the time the next school year starts. I just really want to move on with my life. I have been thinking of all most nothing else. I seem to be stuck. I no what i need to do, but am having a hard time making the final decision. Thank you all so much again. I have gained so much hope from this website.
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I don't even know if I'll be able to verbalize the biggest reason why I opted out of recon. It just seemed dishonest for me in some way. I really thought I would do it up until several days before my surgery...then it started feeling like I was doing it to look 'normal' again. It just rubbed me the wrong way. Why should I go through more painful, arduous surgeries just so other people could look at me and not see what had happened to me? The capper was when my husband looked at me after my bmx and said, "Please don't do reconstruction for me. I can't stand the thought of you going through more surgery. If you want it, I'll support you, but don't do it for me." Now, that is love, and it reaffirmed my decision not to do recon.
Maybe I'll change my mind one day. But I have worked hard at being pretty my whole life and even though it's important to me to look my best, it's just not worth me going through all the pain and discomfort to pretend like this didn't happen. And I have reevaluated what is 'pretty' to me. I look at my scars and am so happy to be alive...I can't pretend like they don't exist or that I'm whole and unscarred...they are who I am. Period. They don't define me, but they are definitely a part of me now.
I would never question another woman's decision to reconstruct; it just wasn't for me.
Good luck to you!!!! I'm sending hugs and prayers your way.
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Suzy, you have explained it so well! That's pretty much how I feel too.
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Suzy~ I want so badly to be where you are. I'm having a really difficult time with it. Lots of this stems from baggage I had WAAAAAAY before BC. <sigh>
Lucylou~ To answer your question, I didn't have recon for a variety of reasons. The most pressing was that I felt overwhelmed (still do!) and couldn't make a well-reasoned decision. I really wanted to be able to exercise again and wanted to start back as soon as I could after chemo. I've figured that I have time to think this through and that I can always do recon later if I wanted. I will say that I feel very physically healthy now and *if* I do choose recon now, I'm in a better position to handle the surgeries and recovery. After chemo, I was sick, sick, sick. Having recon then would have been a disaster (for me). I'll summarize my surgeries and treatmet below, and reasons for not choosing recon at each step. Hope this helps!!!
Dx 12/08
uni Mx 1/09- no recon because the PS couldn't coordinate with BS. Tumor was smallish and grade 3 so getting it out fast was a priority. Also, I wanted a bilat and BS wouldn't do it... So, I knew I'd be in for more surgery later either way... Went for the immediate mx...
chemo 2/09-9/09
prophy uni Mx- Didn't have recon then because I was still very sick from chemo. However, didn't want to wait on mx because 6-month mammo showed spot to "watch". I felt like I had a ticking time-bomb strapped to my chest. So, went for mx w/out recon for now.
12/09 to present- Been exercising and eating right to get my strength back.
6/10- ovaries are coming out.
I'm just now exploring options for recon. I have an appt next week with a local PS and an appt in NOLA in a few weeks for a consult. I haven't figured out *if* I even want it. I like being able to exercise without pain.
xxoo
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Michele,
I love this site b/c I can be honest about how I feel and all you ladies 'get it' because you have been there!
It has not been easy for me to get to that place where I can live with no recon., scars, and flat chest and be at peace with it. There are still times when it hurts my pride, and my heart, but this is me. I think once I accepted that this is what has happened to me, I was able to start embracing the fact that I didn't want to try to hide from it. I would rather just deal with it. The biggest hurdle for me was starting to realize that I could be sexy and attractive without boobs, and that even if some people can't see that, do I really care? Those are not people I would want to really be close with anyway, you know?
Peace to you, my friend - we have been through so much, and so many of us are still struggling. I am sending you a BIG CYBER HUG. -
Thanks Suzy. I've always had body image issues so not having breasts is the icing on the cake (or peeled off the cake! LOL!). I must admit that my physical "comfort" level is fine now. The prostheses are not uncomfortable and going without (at home) doesn't feel strange anymore. It's the sexy/attractive part that is a BiiiiiiG hurdle... working on it. Thanks for listening. I love this site too. You (we) can lay it all out without worrying what it sounds like!
xxoo
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Suzybelle,
I've been form-free for most of my time since bilat in 2006, but sometimes I get so jealous of the women I see on TV, the cleavage, the dresses and tops I will never wear, because I was too shy to do it when I had boobs. I was quite small until I hit my 40s, began to work too hard and eat too unhealthily, and then when I had boobs, I still thought they were small. I look at the pictures now, and I am stunned. But now I don't have boobs, and I feel, as you said, somehow dishonest, if I don't just be myself. Myself has no boobs. I have 4 sets of prostheses of different kinds, and sometimes I put a set on for a few hours, but I will not go back to bras and all their discomfort, and camis don't hold a lot of weight. And I still feel less than honest. I'd rather be flat, so women can see that there is life, LIFE, after bilat mast and bc. And most of the time I feel really good about that. When I don't (lately is when I've been thinking about wearing foobs again), I'm just trying to wait it out. After all, I have grey hair and wrinkles (I'm 63) and some sags where that extra 40 pounds (not my old boobs! just fat) I had carried around used to be. If it weren't for TV I don't think I would even think about any of that. For 63, I look pretty good. My DH would be happier if I could just put the whole experience behind me, but I can't, and I don't really want to. I'm glad my new normal includes being as supportive as I can of anyone I meet who is faced with the terrible choices we've all had to make. There are no perfect, one-size-fits-all answers, so we have to make the decisions that fit us best...for as long as they fit us. It has taken me a while to get here.
Michele, you will get to a more peaceful place one of these days. Give yourself more time, and know we'll be here for you all the way.
Dawn
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Dawn,
I so get what you are saying...I am very sad sometimes about my experience, but that's okay...and I'm also really grateful that I can see 'more' now. It's not so much about outward appearances anymore - it's really more about stuff like character and spirit and honesty. Don't get me wrong - I can still be vain...but I have a deeper appreciation for others' struggles, and for myself.
I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but I am grateful for that.
Michelle, you will get there - I have good days and bad days, but thankfully, they're mostly good days. I'm sending good thoughts your way!!!!
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When I was diagnosed, I never even thought of recon....I just wanted the cancer OUT of me...I chose mastectomy as I knew I did not want radiation.I have a friend now who has BC,she was diagnosed in December 2009,went through four lumpectomies and excisions as she was so desperate to not lose her breast.Now she has to have a mastectomy and is delaying it while she researches recon.Also sounds like chemo is in the cards for her,though her onco score was only ten.I have tried to help her do research and I have read nothing that will convince me that recon is right for me..too much pain, too long under anesthesia,too long a recovery period and then when things go wrong,sounds like they really go wrong.Plus I read of women who are so dissatisfied after doing it,it does not meet their expectations.I was always vain of my breasts and hair..go figure...but no way would I put myself and my body through more surgery to replace a part of my body that is basically useless.I do have to wear a prothesis as my remaining breast needs the support of a bra and the bra is very uncomfortabloe for me with no form..if not for that,I would not wear one.I wear the form for my own comfort,not for society.I am lucky,my husband is so supportive,but if he wasn't,he would be out the door.
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Lucylou, I wish you well with whatever you decide to do. To reconstruct or not is a very difficult decision. I chose not to reconstruct because I didn't feel I could go through the difficult surgery and recovery. I was also afraid of the "what if" something goes wrong and I end up worse then if I did not recon. I can't say that I'm totally happy with how I am now, but I also know that no amount of recon will give me back what I had before. It will never look or feel the same or even better than what I had. In clothes, no one can tell that I didn't have recon and I have a wonderful hubby that actually doesn't feel that recon is necessary. He said he still feels the same about me as he did before b/c and he thinks that the recon is not worth all the surgery I would have to go through.
For me lately it has been so hard to feel ok with no recon when cleavage and being sexy is pushed in our faces daily. Today's fashions make this so much harder.
Suzy, I really like what you wrote. You sound very strong and I hope I can feel as you do some day (soon).
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I chose not to have reconstruction due to a real desire to avoid more exams, more surgeries, and more time before getting the surgery scheduled (to allow time to co-ordinate everything). I don't like the idea of surgery anyway but it needed to be done - so I chose a mastectomy to avoid repeat surgeries for unclear margins, and said an immediate "no" to reconstruction and the plastic surgeon consult or a nipple sparing mastectomy in case I decided on reconstruction later. It was NOT something I even wanted to consider - to have abdominal, or buttock,or back incisions in addition to the breast incision.
Now - I've never been sorry. I wear prosthesis, don't mind them at all, usually forget except when changing clothes! It's nice to be balanced again after having a proph. mastectomy in Nov. And it's nice to not have the heat and sweatiness of skin to skin contact under my breasts. My husband has been wonderful - I'm the one that told him that I would do it for him.......! We've just found other ways to be intimate! I recovered sooner without the risk of side effects from rads, etc.
But, we are all different and there are so many variables in our lives and our diagnosis. Please ask questions, do any research you can, and find what makes YOU comfortable. There are many paths on this journey.
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My sister had a TRAM flap at the same time as her mastectomy, and i assumed i'd do the same. But TRAM means muscle loss - and i got a hernia just from an abdominal hysterectomy; scratch that!
I knew i couldn't cope with implants (too much mesh in me already!), and i'd had rads so that was a bad bet anyway.
So i thought - DIEP. But i couldn't get it together with the mx, so it would have meant another surgery. I had a lumpectomy, a separate SLN biopsy, a hysterectomy with pelvic floor repair, hernia surgery, and a mastectomy in 14 months -- enough forever!
So i decided to 'wait and see', since it would be separate surgeries anyway... i was depressed for months after the mx; body image has aways been really important to me. But i don't think i ever really intended to have recon once i understood what it really meant: 8 hrs for ...what? A blob that has no sensation, and produces another numb area on my belly? A tummy tuck that leaves another scar and God knows what complications?
No regrets. Like the others who've written, i'm not happy with how i look when naked. But i'm comfortable with the prosthesis; it looks fine and feels fine - and I had very good physical therapyafter the mx, so i've got full range of motion, no pain and no tight band around my chest. I'm lopsided, which i hate - but i want no more surgery. If the other breast has to go, i'll be symmetrical again - otherwise, forget it. Luckily my husband doesn't care - he's never shied away from my flat side, and he made it clear right from the start that he doesn't care that i'm mutilated (my word, not his!).
One thing that did weigh with me (tho it was after i'd realized i probably wouldn't do recon) was this: when my husband heard how long a surgery it was, he went very quiet and said - you don't want to do that, do you? All along, he backed me in all the things i did - 2nd opinions, lumpectomy and rads, mx at Mayo - everything. And i finally realized, with all those surgeries that i slept thru -- he sat and waited to see how they came out.I think it was worse for him than for me.
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I agree (it's hard for our husbands to sit and wait!) - and I can't imagine being in surgery that long for those results. Open heart surgery maybe if absolutely necessary. But - this is MY opinion!
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Just wanted to say thanks again, to all that gave me your thoughts on this subject. I made my decsion not to reconstruct. My PBM will be on June the 2nd. It's at 1:00PM I was hoping for an early morning surgery. I don't like the thought of waiting around half a day to go into surgery. I hope they give me some good mellow me out drugs when I get to the hospital. Because I will be bouncing off the walls. Take Care and I will see you on the flat side. Sorry sometimes my sense of humor could use an adjustment.
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You can always request that they move you up in case someone else cancels. It may not work, but is always worth a try!
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I will welcome you to the flat side with open arms and a flat chest! This is the time of year (warm weather) where I really appreciate not having huge breasts on my chest. The feel of soft cotton tees and a breeze up my shirt is a wonderful feeling!
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lucylou,
I hope you have an easy, uneventful recovery. As one who didn't reconstruct, I think you've made a good choice. I do wear (small) breast forms and I look good and feel great. I just attended my son's wedding, wore a beautiful dress, and danced the night away -- I never remembered the breast forms once nor felt even a little self-conscious.
I'm almost four years out from surgery and I have not had any regrets. I hope you'll feel the same way. The nice thing is that if you change your mind, reconstruction is always an option. For the best non-reconstruction result, though, I recommend having a non-skin-sparing mastectomy. I told my breast surgeon that I didn't want recon and asked her to make my chest as "cosmetically pleasing" as possible.
Barbara
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Making the decision is the hardest part. You have done that. The best of luck with your surgery.
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For me, it was too many doctors appointments, surgeries and side effects. I just wanted to move on and figured I would do it later on....17 months later still have no interest. Prostectic works fine for me..its comfortable and looks natural..
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I had a unilateral mastectomy, 20 years ago, at the age of 38. In those days they didn't do immediate reconstruction until the primary therapy was completed, for me that was chemo. After the chemo, I was so happy to be through with everything and just wanted to get on with living. I, also, had a five year old starting kindergarten and didn't want to needlessly disrupt her life. I knew I could change my mind, but never did, because I hate being put under, hate surgery, and am not a patient person, when it comes to putting up with pain and discomfort.
My only regret is that I didn't have a bilateral. I would love to go formless or wear small forms in the summer. I've had a few times when I've missed wearing certain clothing, but not enough to make me want reconstruction.
~elaine~
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Hi my name is laura. I More or less have decided to have my inplants removed. This is a very hard decision for me. I have been in pain for four years since I had my implants put in. I have no idea what ot expect. I am hoping that when I go to the Plastic surgeon in June that he will agree to do this for me. I don't know if my pain will be gone. I have back and neck issues. My reconstructed breasts are uncomfortable and my chest hurts all the time..
I hope that I will get some support form this webb site.
Thanks for listening to me
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I didn't get recon because of knowing so many people who had serious problems afterwards..
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