Please help
My dear and beautiful sister was just diagnosed with DCIS a few days ago. She has asked me to go with her to an informational meeting to discuss options. While I am very very glad that this was caught at the earliest stage, I am of course angry, sad and afraid. I also have no idea what to expect at this meeting or what questions I should ask. I really feel I need to be able to take the lead in this discussion as my sister is still in shock and trying to process the information. I just want to be able to provide support for her, and it may be difficult for her to think of questions to ask and such.
I don't really know too much about her condition except that she is young (under 30) and it sounds like the area needing to be removed is large. Her doctor seems to be leaning toward a mastectomy. She also needs to find out about reconstructive surgery. And, we have no family history of breast cancer.
I am scared and feel really unprepared. The meeting is in a few days and I am looking for help on questions to ask and what to expect from the meeting. I love my sister so very much and I am really hoping that all of you who have experienced this or have a loved one who has experienced this will have some advice to help me, help my sister.
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Tiffany, how great that you are able to go with your sister to her appointment to support her. I know when I was first diagnosed I brought my dad with me to my first appointment with the surgeon and it was really helpful.
I'd suggest bringing a pad of paper and pen so you can take notes in case you are unsure of something afterwards. I'd also recommend bringing a list of questions so you don't forget any of your questions. (Sounds like you are already planning to do this.)
Other things I would recommend asking about are:
1. Are there any other tests the doctor would recommend before making a final treatment decision? In my case, I have a number of relatives who are BRCA1+ (though no family history in my more immediate family) so the doctor recommended genetic testing. He also recommended an MRI to see if anything else showed up on that (sometimes cancer will show up on an MRI but not a mammogram and vice versa). In my case, nothing new showed up and I was BRCA1- so I proceeded with a lumpectomy and radiation as planned.
2. What are the treatment options and for each what are the statistics re recurrance or second cancer with each one?
3. If lumpectomy is an option, what does the doctor think the outcome would be cosmetically? If mastectomy is being considered ask the doctor to explain the various reconstruction options.
4. I would ask the doctor to explain the pathology report from the biopsy if you have questions as well.
I'm sure others will make additional suggestions as well and I may think of more questions, too, but I wanted to give you some thoughts. Depending how you proceed you may be meeting with other doctors too (radiation oncologist, medical oncologist) and will have some different questions for them, but likely that will not be until after surgery (at least in my case that is how I did it).
Hang in there. This is really hard, but gets easier (at least it did for me and I think it does for most others) once decisions have been made.
Oh, also, I would suggest if your sister feels uncomfortable or unsure after meeting the doctor that you get a second opinion. Even if it doesn't change her treatment options it may make her feel more comfortable and to me it is critical that she be comfortable with whatever treatment decisions she makes.
Shocked, I assume you posted that here by mistake since it is totally unrelated to the question being asked by someone who is looking for help ... If so, perhaps you could delete it in this discussion thread.
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Did your sister have a needle or core biopsy? that is the usual method of detection.
I would educate yourself if you haven't done so already - There is a poster on this board, Beesie, who has written accurate and easy to understand explanations of DCIS. scroll down and look for her posts. In addition, in the reference section on BCO there is guidance on diagnosis/treatment options - what to ask the doctors etc. Here is a website I found informative when I was first diagnosed http://www.dcis.info/dcis.html
AlohaGirl is right about everything but I would say - your sister should get a second opinion even if she is happy with her doctor - it is simply a good idea - esp since she is so young and has such a long future ahead of her. And if she is not being treated at a breast cancer center, then perhaps that is where the second opinion can come from. There is no need to rush. You both have alot of information to absorb!! If mastectomy is the surgery recommended - many women take the time they need learning about the different types of mastectomies and interviewing plastic surgeons and then it takes time to schedule the BS and the PS. Oh, and suggest to your sister that she request copies of all her tests, labs, pathology reports, reports of office visits. This is complicated stuff and you don't have to rely upon your notes, your sister has the right to copies of everything pertaining to her medical care.
So sorry you are faced with this, but how lucky your sister is to have you advocating for her and lovingly supporting her.
Julie E
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Those are some wonderful tips from both Aloha & Jelson. I went to the bookstore and stayed for 4 hours the afternoon before my surgurey to read up on as much as I possiblly could b/c you can't get too much info when it comes to breast cancer...Taking notes as well as talking to others that has gone thru this ordeal is certainly a +... I totally agree that she should get a 2nd opinion...Tell her while she is reading material or talking to someone if she has a question she wants to discuss with her dr having it written down will help her out alot...I had so many questions written down to ask my dr and they should take all the time she needs to help her understand and get answers she is looking for...I think you are a wonderful sister and I am so happy that she will have you by her side...it is terrifying but it does get easier I promise...I paniced so bad when I got the call and had my grandbaby with me for the entire week which was a blessing in disguise....Lots of prayers going out to your sister as well as for you....
God Bless!!
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Thank you everyone for such quick responses. I unfortunately don't know a lot (my sister was upset when she told me, so I didn't ask her too many questions). I don't know what type of biopsy was done, but I do know the doctor did three (I think) at different areas and all three came back pre-cancerous. I already was thinking I wanted her to get a second opinion, not in hope of results changing, but just for peace of mind. So thank you to all of you for suggesting that. Also, thank you for suggesting to ask for copies of all the tests/reports. I'm not sure we would have thought to request that, but I can see how it is needed. I have wondered about the additional testing (MRI and Genetic) and will bring that up as possibilities (I don't think either have been done). And, Julie, thank you so much for the recommended websites and posts to go to and look at. This is all very new and it really will be a crash course in BC.
Of course, ultimately, all of this will be my sisters decision, but I just want to help her get all the information she needs to make it.
Thank you to everyone again. I really appreciate your support.
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Just one other suggestion to add to the excellent advice you have already gotten. Your sister is very young for this diagnosis, so I would specifically ask the doctors about how her treatment will be tailored in relation to her age. Good luck. It's a lot to absorb and really scary--but I felt a lot better after I started talking to doctors and weighing my options.
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I'm sorry about your sister's diagnois. Its nice that she has such a supportive sister to help her through this experience.
First and foremost, if she has DCIS then she does not, and to my mind, should not, rush to a decision. She can, and I think should, consult more than one surgeon and take time to explore options. If her diagnois is DCIS, I would be quite wary of a doctor who was pushing me to make a quick decision. In my case, I was diagnoised in mid-November 2009 but didn't have surgery until February 1, 2010. I needed time to evaluate my options, get other opinions and have my holiday. My surgeon and all the doctors I spoke with were perfectly fine with that.
Second, I would recommend that she gets at least a second opinion from a Breast Surgeon---a surgeon who specializes in treating breast cancer. General surgeons are great people but breast surgeons are specialists. You want to find a specialist who has done lots of your type of surgery. When I was diagnoised, I was so overwhelmed. I was given two groups of surgeons and I would sit at my computer and look at their websites and feel like all I could do was eeny meeny miney moe to pick my doctor. It wasn't a pleasant feeling but I didn't know what else to do. So I picked one and had 2 appointments with her. At the end, I just didn't feel good. I felt like she gave me too many choices without any recommendation. Now for some women that would be great but personally, I'm a specialist and I am used to giving options AND my option as to what to do and thats what I want in a surgeon. My husband and I would come out the appointments and he thought she was saying doing A and I thought she was saying do B. So we went for more opinions. The second surgeon I met I felt great about and at the end of the first surgery, I knew she was the one I wanted.
Third, before you make the final decision on type of surgery, get evaluations from all the other kinds of doctors who she will be dealing with. Unfortunately, there are always other doctors you will have to deal with plus some decisions impact others. For example, some plastic surgeons will not do reconstruction right away--they want you to finish treatment for breast cancer first or at least be sure that the margins are clear. I would recommend seeing at least one plastic surgeon. See a radiation oncologist. See a plain old oncologist. For me, the meeting with the first plastic surgeon was so helpful because he told me what he could and would not do for reconstruction if I needed it. And he told me what certain types of reconstruction would involve. This helped me evaluate whether I wanted to go straight to a mastectomy or do a lumpectomy. And the oncologist helped me to understand my cancer.
Good luck and do feel free to ask all the questions here that you might have.
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I wanted to add that whether or not to do MRIs is a matter of controversy. Some surgeons are pro and some are against. Personally, I'm pro-MRI and would encourage your sister to have one before any surgery.
While no imaging tool is perfect, meaning that none of them catch all the problems and all of them also catch things that turn out not to be problems, I think it's better to use all the tools possible to evaluate the possible extent of disease BEFORE you start cutting in surgery. MRIs are sensitive and some Drs feel there are too many false positives to make it worthwhile. Personally, I think that's a crap argument since the false positive rate is better than mammography (but mammography is cheaper and less resource intensive for the hospital). So I think it's really an argument about money, but others disagree.
Anyway, I wanted you to be aware that its use is controversial, and she might have to push a bit to have one if that was what she chose to do.
If she DOES choose to have one, there's a specific window in the menstrual cycle which cuts down on hormone-induced false positives. Make sure she schedules the test at the right time of her cycle. Not all Drs bother to mention this, so make sure she brings it up.
On another issue, I'd recommend consulting a plastic surgeon (or two) if it even remotely seems like plastic surgery might be involved. The breast surgeon's job is to remove the cancer and the plastic surgeon's job is to fix what's left. I found that breast surgeons would sometimes say things could be done which the plastic surgeons thought were unlikely to succeed. They're different jobs with different (but overlapping) knowledge bases and skill sets. Talk to plastic surgeons about plastic surgery, don't take the cancer surgeon's word for what they think the plastic surgeon can do.
Best wishes!
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I just wanted to second the advice above about using a breast surgeon and about talking to plastic surgeon (if one may be needed) before you proceed. My gynecologist said over and over to me to go to a breast surgeon not a general surgeon and I am so glad I did. I had a lumpectomy with a significant amount of tissue removed (I am large breasted so cosmetically easier to do that I think) and the surgeon I went to moved tissue around inside and did the incision around the edge of the aereola to improve the cosmetic result. I'm amazed at how good it looks -- at a glance you can't even tell which breast I had the surgery on, and when I went for my mammogram and the tech was going to mark the scar she had to turn on more lights so she could find it! A skilled surgeon can make a huge difference cosmetically and I'm sure also medically. Good luck to you and your sister!
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Really good advice above, and please suggest to her that she add one more very important specialist to her list of doc's - a therapist - that is almost never included with the recommeded docs - but at this time when everyone has an opinion it is SOOOO important for her to hear her own voice!!! A therapist will help her do that! Good luck! Deirdre
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Thank you to so many of you who have sent well wishes and advice. It is so overwhelming and I am finding this thread so helpful to re-read, as I feel I see something new everytime.
One thing I really am going to suggest to my sister, based upon all of your advice, is to seek out medical professionals she feels comfortable with. I'm hopeful that she will have a little bit of time to make an informed descision and not feel the need to rush into surgery.
And, deirdre, thank you for your advice on seeking out a therapist. So much of the healing from this is going to be emotional.
And, again, thank you to all of you who have responded with such excellent advice. I sincerely appreciate it.
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Tiffany,
I am one year out from DCIS and bilateral mastectomies with reconstruction. I needed a mastectomy on the left because my DCIS was multifocal (in 3 quadrants.) Then the MRI found somthing questionable on the right, so rather than biopsy it, I chose to have a bilateral mastectomy. The area on the right turned out to have LCIS so I'm glad I made that decision.
Anyway, everyone is different but for me, knowing that I could have reconstruction at the same time as the mastectomies made a big difference to me emotionally.
Your sister is going to be seeing these doctors regularly for a long time, so make sure she is comfortable with them. For reconstruction, go to at least 2 doctors for consultations. Make sure to go to a doctor who specializes in breast reconstruction, not just a regular plastic surgeon. There is a whole section on this forum for breast reconstruction, and you can get great information there.
Write down your questions beforehand. That helps organize your thoughts and you won't forget anything important. Jot down the answers too, because otherwise you will get home, and forget the details of what the doctor said.
Nobody likes being diagnosed with cancer, but DCIS is very treatable and curable. Try to keep that in mind.
Please check in and let us know how you and your sister are doing.
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How blessed you and your sister are to have each other. We all understand the shock of finding out you or a loved one has questions. They best advice I have for you is TAKE NOTES. My DD went with me when I found out the results of my biopsy and I'm so glad she did. I handed her a pad of paper and a pen and kept saying, "Please write that down." Her notes after the visit were so important. Get a pathology report. It may seem Greek right now, but as you both learn the ends and outs of this disease that path. report will be very important. Ask questions.
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