At Stage 3 Should I Worry about Other Breast?
This question is always on my mind and drives me crazy. I had 3 separate mammograms to watch my right breast for calcifications during the year my left breast cancer was missed then diagnosed after I found the lump. I was scheduled mammograms, first the anual, then the followup 6 weeks later for "abnormal" then 6 months later, as "probably benign" I just had my first anual after BC and still cleared. Should I be worried that this could turn into a cancer with lymph node involvement? I'm seeing my BS next week and I want to discuss if it is proactive to have the remaining breast removed because of the calcifications and the fact I am stage III from the left BC experience..
Barb
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Barb - I had a BMX because I knew I'd worry and didn't want to go down this road again. However, my dr didn't tell me to remove my good breast he only gave me the statistics, but when I told him of my decision he seemed relieved then said that he and "the board" had discussed my case and thought it was the best choice for my case. I'm not sure if they can tell us to remove the good breast, but can only help us to make such a personal decision, one that is very difficult for some women.
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i think you should what ever it takes for "peace of mind"
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There is some new research that does give a survival advantage for prophylactic Breast removal for TN's. Also I think if you have ILC, or if you are BRAC +. Otherwise it isn't "recommended" but you could certainly have it done for peace of mind. I am still a uniboob, and have thoughts of having the good side removed. I'm just not ready for more Surgery right now.
My BS nicely told me that the cancer I needed to be worried about was the cancer I had already had. For me, that is probably the biggest risk. Removal would probably give me peace of mind, rather than any survival benefit.
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Kerry is right.
There is no need for you to remove the healthy breast. If its a peace of mind thing...then ok.
I'll be honest, I was seriously thinking of removing my healthy breast too. At the time, I was not emotionally and physically ready for more surgery.So I put it on the back burner. Now, time has past, my mind is clear, I'm not in a chemo or just finished treatment anxiety state......I've changed my mind.
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Hi Barb,
I like Jenn decided on the propholactic mx because of all the unknowns on the other side. It ended up they found LDIC (not cancer, yet) on that side, so I was relieved I made that choice. I have a tendency to think the worst case scenerio and I know I would have been a mess worrying about it for the rest of my life. So for me there was no decision to be made once they told me they would need to do further testing down the road.
Take care,
Sharon
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I had a bilat....both surgeons I interviewed suggested it....it was one of my 1st questions to ask, but they suggested it before I ever got to ask the question....its been 4 years and I've never regretted it....the prophy side came back pre-cancerous.....good luck to you in making the right decision for you....hugs.
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I had a bilat because of genetic history. My breast surgeon didn't recommend it because she said "we can catch it early", which was based on the state of the art screening methods at her hospital.
I had dense breasts and live in a small town with crappy screening so was not at all confident that any new cancer would be caught early. I do realize, like Kerry says, my current cancer is the one t0 worry about and I probably didn't increase my chances of survival by lopping off the other breast, but I did increase my peace of mind.,
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Barb I could almost have written what you posted myself.
I too had calcifications in my right breast that have been "watched" since 2005. After the initial - 6 week and 6 month follow ups I went religiously back to my yearly mammogram of BOTH breasts.
Then last year just before my scheduled mammogram - BAM! I found a lump in the top portion of my left breast - I could actually see it.
The resulting diagnostic Mammogram, U/S and MRI just confirmed it was cancer and the Mastectomy removed it and some nodes - 1 of which tested positive.
I was shocked - how could this happen while I was being vigilant and "watched".
I asked my surgeon - twice - to remove my right breast (so-called good breast) and he refused. Saying that he did not remove healthy breasts. I asked my PS to remove my right breast before reconstruction and he refused.
I asked my med onc if I should have it removed and he said "we'll see" and "let's get through chemo and rads first".
I don't know why some doctors do prophylactic mastectomies and others refuse! My BS was shocked I would even ask this question. He actually asked me "why" I would want it removed. I reminded him about the calcifications and he said they were nothing to worry about and now that I'd had BC I would be more closely monitored. Maybe for him it's not a worry but for me it's always at the back of my mind.
I'm worried because my right breast was not U/S last July when my left one was - I was too shocked to ask them to do it then - and now I'm waiting until the time I can have a mammogram of my right breast to find out what's going on there.
I am a worrier and I need someone to tell me that my right breast is ok. Even then I don't know if I'd believe them (my left breast seemed ok throughout all the mammograms before). I honestly don't think that I would have relief or peace of mind until this right breast is gone so I don't have to worry about it.
I'm sorry I didn't answer your question but I wanted to let you know that you are not alone in this. I'm still a lopsided basket case!
Marie
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I had similar problems with the diagnostic procedures. Only a small area showed on my annual mammo and then on the ultrasound. After lumpectomy with dirty margins they removed the breast and it was full of cancer. Literally full of it. And stage III. So I chose not to rely on the tests anymore and have the other one removed. It is much easier without having to do the nodes too.
I also wonder, considering that the breast tissue stores estrogen, if it will help eliminate the fuel for cancer cell growth.
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I had the healthy removed about 18 months after I had the cancerous breast removed. I was told the chances of developing another primary were increased because of the first primary. I do believe it's true we have more to worry about with spread of the 1st primary, but, it's a matter of doing everything you can do. I have never, ever, regretted my choice. No buyers remorse, at all.
Best of luck,
Gabrielle
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I was misdiagnosed for four years by a so called breast oncology surgeon who told me that my calcifications were benign. They were NOT and wound up being two tumors! I also had 2 nodes positive. I had the healthy breast removed because I could not trust the so called experts who kept telling me I was fine every six months, then had no mal practice insurance when they were found to be very, very wrong. I had expanders and now have two size D breasts thanks to my plastic surgoen. Overall I am happy. Do I miss my nipples and breasts YES! But I sleep better at night! Good luck!! FYI...insurance paid for everything on the healthy side too!
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I'm still leaning toward a prophy mx on the "healthy" side when I do reconstruction. I'm trying to really think it through, though, so I don't have any regrets. My thoughts: It grew and spread fast - from undetectable to 2.5 cm and 5 nodes in less than 7 months. I didn't think it could grow that fast but my PP said she's seen it happen lots of times with HER2+. So even if I get a mammogram/US every 6 months, it could easily be in my nodes again on the other side before we found it. I'm BRCA negative, but those are only for the mutations they know about. There could be other genes they don't know about yet - one of which might explain why I have BC at 39 with almost no risk factors whatsoever (other than apparently a great-grandmother who had it, but had died of something else, so most of us never knew until it came out with my dx - I'm only the second in our family ever on both sides, as far as everyone knows). Also, my BS was concerned about the calcifications in my "healthy" breast. I really dread all of that surgery, I really, really do. However, I'm a worrier and I think losing the stress of keeping it might well outweigh the benefits of keeping it, for me. I'd rather lose another breast now, rather than maybe later when I'd have to lose nodes and deal with treatment again. I have a friend who had cancer in one breast in her late 30's. She had a mx and treatment. Twenty years later it showed up in the other breast, but this time she wasn't lucky enough to catch it early and now she's stage IV. I know the odds of that happening to me are probably pretty small, but small odds didn't matter this first time. So I'm leaning toward peace of mind.
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If I was having Surgery anyway for recon, I'd get the other one off.
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Kimber and Kerry: You both said exactly what I have been thinking. I am strongly leaning towards prophy mast to prevent another axillary node dissection in the future. I find the ALND has more complications long term than the mastectomy site (strictly speaking physically, not mentally). I think I am willing to loose the boob to protect the nodes on that side.
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kimber3006, KerryMac Melinda41 - Me too, you all have said how I feel. Kimber3006 if I win my insurance appeal tomorrow and they somehow will cover having the other side off at that time, I am also thinking hard about it. My insurance denied my choice of having bilateral at the time of my diagnosis. I have had 1 year to think about it now also and really think I feel the same at this point, I would rather have it off now if I can do reconstruction.
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Blondie45 - Good luck with your appeal tomorrow - I'll keep my fingers crossed for you! According to all I've read and been told, my insurance company automatically covers prophy mx if you're BRCA+ or under age 40 at initial diagnosis, so I'm hoping I don't encounter any problems.
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the first thing i said to my dr was i wont them both gone i do not wont to go through this again and he thought they found a small shadowed area in the good side on the mri then on the pet said their was nothing i said well i would rather have none then to take the chance of going through this again he said we would talk about it after chemo well i still fell like they both need to go.I told them they aret good for any thing they have no need to be their they have done their perpus for my children i don't need them .
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