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  • VegaSinclair
    VegaSinclair Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2012

    I enjoy an occasional glass of wine or two every week or so. I agree that there seems to be so many different conflcting reports on whether wine is good for you or bad for you. I have read that red wine is good for you but in order to get the amount of tannins or whatever you would have to drink a lot of red wine which is bad for you. I say just enjoy your life and don't overdo anything.

  • havehope
    havehope Member Posts: 503
    edited April 2010
    Happy Easter! Red Wine Helps Cardiovascular Health, But Is It the Alcohol or Something Else?Two studies show different results on the source of wine's heart health benefitsJacob Gaffney
    Posted: March 31, 2010One of the longest-running debates on the potential health benefits of regular, moderate red wine consumption is whether the alcohol or the other components in wine are responsible for better health. A study from Italy claims that moderate consumption of alcohol, regardless of other compounds like polyphenols, can help prevent a repeat heart attack. But a new study from the U.K. suggests that the polyphenols found in red wine may help keep blood vessels in proper working order.Previous studies suggest that red wine is responsible for improved blood flow, which helps keep the heart and the body in better health, but whether that's due to polyphenols or alcohol, or both, is still unclear. A study from the Research Laboratories at the Catholic University of Campobasso, Italy, claims the alcohol, not the antioxidants, helps prevent another heart attack or stroke.Published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology, the study looked at 16,351 people from eight countries who had previously suffered a heart-related injury, usually a heart attack. When the researchers compared their drinking habits to the recurrence of strokes, heart attacks, or any other deadly cardiovascular event, they found that moderate drinkers of one to two servings of alcohol per day had a 20 percent lower risk of recurrence compared to nondrinkers and heavier drinkers."Our research highlights another crucial issue: Drinking has not only to be moderate, but also regular," said co-author and university epidemiologist Licia Iacoviello in a statement. "Moderate consumption spread along the week is positive. The same amount of weekly alcohol, concentrated in a couple of days, is definitely harmful."The director of research at Compobasso warned against using the study as an invitation to start drinking, however. In a press release, Giovanni de Gaetano said that the study dealt with previously ill people and, therefore, is not necessarily translatable to the general public.A study conducted at the University of Surrey, England, published in the Journal of Human Nutrition and Dietetics, suggests that alcohol may not be the only factor, however. A research team found that people who drank a kind of simulated wine—alcohol mixed with red grape juice—during mealtime showed several markers of improved cardiovascular health. Those who drank just water did not see the same levels of improved blood flow. Those who drank just grape juice saw slightly lower benefits.To try to figure out the relationship between alcohol versus red wine compounds, the team had ten subjects consume a standard meal with a test drink on different occasions. The test drinks accompanying the meal were either water, red grape juice or red grape juice plus alcohol. Red wine itself was not used in any form, as de-alcoholized wine tends to still contain some level of alcohol, which might have marred the results. The simulated wine was red grape juice with alcohol added to create a 12 percent alcohol drink. Various measurements were taken to estimate blood flow.The flow-mediated dilation, a measure of the ease at which blood is pumped through the body, stood at 6 percent for those who only had water, 7 percent for those who had grape juice only and more than 8 percent for those who had the red grape juice/alcohol mixture.The scientists credit ingredients in the red grape juice for most of the benefits. "The conclusion drawn from this study was that non-alcoholic components present in alcoholic beverages have a potential benefit on vascular function—blood vessels," said Dr. Shelagh Hampton, senior research fellow on the faculty of Health and Medical Sciences.
  • Blundin2005
    Blundin2005 Member Posts: 1,167
    edited April 2010

    I'm not a medical or physiology researcher.  I worked as an administrator in a hospital for 20 years and learned a lot.  I took a nursing course on nutrition and learned a lot.  And now I get a lot of my information from Google University.  So what follows is only my humble opinion as we say here often.

    The problem with research on our bodies is that to hold all the parts in one place long enough to get a clear idea about cause and effect is like herding cats. (I learned that phrase when I was working as a health care administrator--we referred to our doctors in the same loving way.)  Even though the body works as a system, the parts are independent and respond to various stimuli that set off a cascade of response.

    The balance of this system is very delicate.

    When we are young, our bodies are ability to adjust to these imbalances, whether the cause is environment or our personal choices,  

    When we are older, our bodies degenerate naturally and cease to rebalance as quickly depending on our habits of maintenance.  We do have some control over this process.

    One example is energy and desire to continue to move, thus survive, and a healthy central nervous system.  B vitamins are associated with the maintenance of those systems.

    Alcohol destroys B vitamins.  The dominos are set in action.  

    The more alcohol consumed the less B vitamin. The less B vitamin....well, just read this link.

    http://www.acu-cell.com/bx2.html 

    And this is just B vitamin....the list goes on.     

    So the body has a hell of a time rebalancing any over indulgences on our part.

    Those who know me here over the years know that I enjoy my food and wine.  Many people here can't think to eat food without wine...it's cultural.  We still have wine with dinner.  Although, over indulgence exists here as anywhere, I don't see it as much.  There is always a bottle of water placed on the table with the food and wine.  I rarely see after dinner drinks taken except on special occasions.

    The focus of the European studies related to alcohol consumption are abounding and they are approaching the destructive nature of it in much the same way they approached smoking bans here.  It's the advantage of a national health system integrated with a private system.  

    I know too that I'm not saying something here that we don't already know.  We simply need to say it out loud more often as we did about smoking cigarettes or any other self destructive behavior.  

    Komen is focusing on prevention.  I volunteer here for Race for the Cure.  I recently learned that Komen is supporting physical and mental health programs at the hospital for breast cancer patients.  It is in step with the standards established by the European Union.  They see a healthy health system as integral to a healthy financial system...thus sustainable healthy life style.

    It's easier to Run for the Cure when less alcohol is consumed.  When we take the extra glass of whatever, we run less....it's simple.  Is it worth it?

    Best wishes for all as always,

    Marilyn

    "Never run faster than our guardian angel can fly" 

  • momto2angels
    momto2angels Member Posts: 289
    edited April 2010

    My very first ND simply put it this way;  When it comes to Alcohol and Cancer, it's like pouring gasoline on a fire. 

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