March 2010 Chemo Start

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  • Julia257
    Julia257 Member Posts: 284
    edited March 2010
    Hope everyone is having a good weekend.  My elastogel mittens and slippers arrived and yes as posted earlier, it is counter-indicated if distal mets.  In the pkg was included a cd talking about the cold cap from the Oscar Lambret Cancer Center, Lille, France.  They've been using it for 10 years and their success rate against alopecia, hair loss, with taxotere is 85%.  It's a cold, heavy helmet and depending on the duration of the infusion needs to be changed quickly, so you may need up to 5 helmets...should be on 15 min prior, during, then for 15 minutes after treatment. At M&W (buyelastogel.com) mentioned above, they cost $90 each. 
  • alison34
    alison34 Member Posts: 138
    edited March 2010

    just counted how many of us there on in march and just what we know is 28 ladies this is far to many of us it stinks stinks and stinks again

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  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2010

    How do I join this? I start chemo next Wednesday, St. Patty's day. This is my 2nd go around with chemo. Started chemo last time on 3/31/08. This is a recur of bone mets to hip/femur/rib/shoulder. Will be doing Taxotere/Herceptin this time. Last time I did A/C and Taxol/herceptin. This is a really neat thread, I like the idea of having someone to talk to that is starting chemo the same month as me. Please add me to the list! Thanks and hang in there everyone, it's not a walk in the park but it's definitely DOABLE!

    Take care Everyone!

    Suzanne E.

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited March 2010

    Undecided8 - consider yourself part of our March Ladies Group!  Sorry you had to come back, but I definitely agree that this is a wonderful site to talk and vent and cry and get great information.

    Alison34 - it does stink to have so many.  On the other hand, think about 20 years ago.  Many of us would not have had our cancers caught so early and we would not have had a chance.  So while I agree there shouldn't be so many, I try to remember that I am lucky to have had my cancer discovered today when there is so much known.

    That said ... I am not a Pollyanna about this.  I hate it.  I hate waking up every day wondering how I will feel or what wonderful new SE I will have.  I hate wondering if this will get worse as I continue my treatments.  I hate not knowing how this will all turn out.  I hate that this is my new normal for the time being.

    So I'm going to go enjoy the sunny day in Seattle, have a group of friends over tonight to wear wigs and hats, laugh, and then start a new job on Monday!

  • EZH
    EZH Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2010

    I've been mostly lurking and quietly keeping up on everything from the past few days..glad that everyone seems to be doing okay!

    StaceyT:  we started on the same date, I'm wondering if you went for your blood counts during the "nadir" at the end of last week?  How were your counts?  What is the date of chemo #2 for you?  I'm scheduled for 3/23.  

    Welcome to Undecided, sorry that you are back in this boat...we'll keep you company!  Frosty 1 will add you to the list, thats all you do to join the club that nobody wants to be in.

    Sarikasd:  I'm BRCA 1 positive, too.  There was zero family history, up until now!  I have two daughters, too young to test yet, but eventually will have to go there.  Difficult to contemplate. Do you mind if I ask,  dId you get  dbl mx?  Onc. recommend ooferectomy?   I'm not sure of your age, just wondering if our surgery was the same.

    Allison:  totally agree, the length of the list is mind boggling and that is just those of us on this ONE site that chose to sign up!  The numbers are actually staggering! 

    I think I'm in the "grace period" between chemo #1 and chemo #2.  Just feel like a good long nap would be the icing on the cake!  Its a very windy and rainy day in NY..perfect foe napping, if kids allow!

    Hope you all are okay and feeling (somewhat) relaxed this weekend. 

  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010

    I agree with Frosty, I consider myself lucky to have so much more knowledge and options than my mom and aunts had 17-18 years ago.  My aunt is a 2 times BC survivor and will be coming to help me in May.  I can hardly wait to show her my reconstructed boobs (although just TEs at the moment).  I know she is going to be so happy for me as many years ago they didnt and I dont think still have that option commonly available in India which is where I am originally from.

     EZH- I am 33 years old.   I had bilateral mastectomy and am also recommended oophorectomy which I will go for after chemo and exchange surgery for permanent implants.  I have a son so less risk of BC but he will have to test for the genetic mutation when he is 20 - that is more than 14 years from now. Hopefully by then they will have found a way to repair the faulty gene!  How old are your daughters?

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    hey lovemygarden - here's a blast from the past for ya - Lady Godiva by Peter & Gordon (performing on the Milton Berle show in 1966) !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouP_p7vrO80

  • Melanie36
    Melanie36 Member Posts: 110
    edited March 2010

    Hi Ladies,

    I`m new to the thread. After joining the Xeloda Floppers Club, I am scheduled to start taxotere (aka Taxo-terrible) on Monday.

    Of course I am scared, nevous, anxious etc.

    Is anyone else just on Taxotere, what suggestions do you all have. I was supposed to get a picc line put in on Friday, but I opted for the port. Of course I have to wait for the port, so I will be getting it peripherally the first time or two.

    We also have a Disney World vacation booked for next week Tuesday, that I am scared about.

    Thanks,

    Melanie

  • Lesinindy
    Lesinindy Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010

    It has been an interesting 3 days so far.

    I know that most of you have someone that is going through the experience with you and thought that it might be interesting to give a perspective from the other side of the LazyBoy. Carolyn started her chemo process Thursday with the implanting of the Power Port. When the doctor came in to explain the procedure he mentioned that in 2% of the time one could get a collapsed lung (more of that later). When we first got to the oncology clinic I found it crowded, noisy and not very inviting (it is located in the basement of the hospital and it reminded me of the Veterans Administration Hospital). If I had not heard such good things about the staff we would have walked out. The nurse started to explain the process and I stepped in and asked if we could discuss this in a more private place and one that was conducive to hearing. I am not one to complain about most things but this location to discuss this important stuff was not acceptable. They moved us to a treatment room, went over much of the process and then started the Chemo.

    I would assume that for you ladies the experience of being in the chemo room must be scary and uncomfortable, for a husband it is "deer in headlight time". We are in a room of really sick people and they are pumping chemicals into your wife's body. I looked up at the bags hanging on the IV pole and noticed that they had warnings on the to be not touched withour gloves, and they are putting that in my wife. At one point a gentleman in his late forties came in with his family. I thought that this poor guy looked like the walking dead, but there was something about him that was familiar. As I mentioned there is no privacy in this place and you hear everything whether you want to or not. From the discussion this guy had some really heavy duty cancer going on. The took him to get a Xray and when they did they said "we will see you back soon Chuck". I went up to the nurse and asked what his last name was. . . .I have known Chuck for over 17 years (we fought fires together, did EMS runs together and spent time at the firehouse, I did not even recognize him), then I looked back at my wife with the IV running.

     5 hours later she was done and we were off to home. She had a restful night (they gave her pain meds for the port surgery) and in the morning she ran some errands with my daughter. She mentioned to my daughter that she was hearing a gurgling sound when she inhaled. The oncology office asked her to stop by the hospital and get an Xray. We got a call back about 5:30 with instructions to meet the surgeon at the ER, she had a collapsed lung. That is a nasty procedure under the best of circumstances and on top of the Port implant and Chemo things could not have been worse. I knew what she was in for and did not say anything (felt it would not help). We got home about 11:30 and she spent the night in pain and in the chair, could not lay down.

    All in all not a good start to an almost year long process. I got bitched at and hassled off an on during the day, but that is ok. I know it is the pain talking and not her.

    I would suspect that I am not that much different from many husbands, we see everything, we are scared to death, we feel your pain and we try to keep it to ourself. If we are quiet don't assume we don't care, if we don't have an opinion on something we might have one but don't want to impose our desires on you. If you bitch at us, we will get over it.

  • lovemygarden
    lovemygarden Member Posts: 342
    edited May 2010

    Groundhog: I looove the link! Talk about stepping into a timewarp! :-)



    Good thing nobody's around to hear my off-key singing of it (it's definitely stuck in my head now! ;-) ) around the house today.



    Trying to drown out the sound of what seems like gale force winds and torrential rains (I'm in NY too, EZH). The power went out for about an hour late this afternoon (hope it won't happen again, because every so often it's been flickering ominously), and my satellite dish is not getting any signal whatsoever. I'm a little surprised that the internet cable is still working (knock wood!) because it's all above ground here and there are far too many trees dropping huge limbs with this 40 mph wind and up to 60mph gusts. Looks like tonight is "watch a DVD" time!

  • janine151
    janine151 Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2010

    hello march ladies!   just wanted to post some words of encouragement.  I started chemo one year ago today.  Friday the 13th!   I was on A/C for 15 weeks, taxol/herceptin for 12 weeks.  once a week treatments.  ugh.  i'm doing herceptin every 3 weeks until august, and i'm down to 9 radiation treatments.  I know the reaction is different for everybody, I was one of the lucky ones.  I had almost no reaction to chemo at all.  I worked full time, and wasn't sick at all.  I chose to "go commando"  with my bald head.  It actually was rather nice during the summer.  Just remember that sun block!  I wish you all good, happy thoughts! 

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Hi all, welcome to the newcomers and hey to the "old-timers."  {{hugs}}

    So far, I've shared about my first tx day (Tuesday) and the day after (working from home Weds).  I've been taking the compazine pills every 4-5 hours since Tues night.  Was OK those first two days but had a semi-rough couple of nights especially in the very early mornings, like midnight to 5 am, Weds into Thurs, and Thurs into Fri.  Only thing that helped the nausea was weak tea and toast.  So I'd get up and brew tea and make toast and get that down & feel better then try to get back to sleep.  Days were not bad as I kept busy and also ate something every couple of hours but I was very tired by the end of the day.  Didn't log in for a few days because I'd get home from work and crash on the couch with my blankie.

    Friday on the way home I stopped for some chicken noodle soup, I had been craving it all day.  Tasted pretty good, and I felt OK Fri into Sat.  Have not had any anti-nausea meds since last night and have felt good all day today. Gonna get some good rest this weekend!

    Anyone find your sense of taste is changing?  For example I love coffee but it doesn't taste good anymore.  So I'm drinking tea, keeps the caffeine withdrawal at bay.  Kiss

  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010

    Hello Ladies, Today was ok for me too.  I have to take Zofran and Compazine each once a day to keep nausea at bay, but my appetite is literally down to 25% of what it was, because of which I guess I am feeling tired.  But till now overall its not been terrible.  I am loooking forward to more recovery and strength next week.  Hope you all have a great remaining of the weekend.

  • hereandnow
    hereandnow Member Posts: 322
    edited March 2010

    Hi All,

    please add me to the list. I am starting 19th March, and having 3 x FEC (fluorouracil, epirubicin, cyclophosphamide) then 3x taxotere. It's been so helpful reading everything that's been written here and elsewhere.

    I'm thinking I might get some of those elastogel mittens and slippers, there's an interesting review article which summarises trials and there appears to be quite a benefit with taxanes, although they don't mention anything about distant mets being a contrindication to wearing them  (J Oncol Pharm Pract. 2009 Sep;15(3):143-55  "Nail toxicity induced by cancer chemotherapy")

    I am having staging this week with CT and bone scan and also a MUGA scan of my heart function before the drugs start. Then see the Rad onc Friday just before I start the chemo. It's going to be a busy week. Oh, and somewhere in the there I'll see the boys at the salon who are all lined up for the first crop haircut.

    Best wishes to all who have started and all who are starting this week too.

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited March 2010

    I had my surgery for the removal of my right breast in Feb and start my Chemo the last of March. I will have 4 treatments every three weeks of Docetaxel and cyclophosphamide. I will have my port put in on the 16th, pet scan and ct scan after that. will have hormone therapy after the chemo and posibility of radiation.Have had to go off of my hormones that I have been on since my hysterectomy. And Dr said to stay away from soy and Lysine due to the hormones. Does any one know of any thing else that may have hormones in it?

     I was reading some of the comments and one had a question of the curly hair. It brought a funny story to mind. After my husband was finished with his chemo and his hair grew back, it came in curly. He was really upset. Asked me what he was supposed to do with it and said he couldn't comb it. I told him he should be proud of it as I had to pay high dollar to get curl in my hair. I really thought it looked  very becoming on him. The next day he brought me the hair clippers and said to cut this D___ stuff so I can do something with this mess!!!! So we buzzed the hair again and when it grew back this time he had no more curl. He passed away on Mar 23, 2008 of stage 4 Melanoma. I am supposed to start my chemo on that date this year. Not looking forward to it. Hopefully I can keep my mind occupied.

  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2010

    Melanie,

    I'm doing Taxotere too, starting on Wednesday. I understand you being nervous about the vacation but hopefully any side affects won't have a chance to set in yet. In the past my side affects didn't start to kick in until day 3-4. How long will you be gone? Do you have to take Dexametasone? I don't care for that drug at all. Most people do fine, but it doesn't go well with uclers at all. I wish you the very best on Monday and I'll be thinking of ya. Let us know how you're feeling and I hope you get to enjoy yourself on the trip, you deservce to have some fun. I'll be joining you Wednesday. Take Care!

    Suzanne E. 

  • undecided8
    undecided8 Member Posts: 194
    edited March 2010

    Lesinindy,

    I cannot express how much your post touched me! I've been on message boards, discussion groups for 2 years now expect for this one I just found a month aga, I've NEVER once saw a husband make a post and that's unfortunate because I've never really stopped to think of what my husband has gone through right along with me. He's never got to come in the chemo room with me though because my Oncology office does NOT allow visitors under ANY circumstances. I hope your wife gets better VERY soon. I'm so sorry to hear about what she went through with the lung issue. She's very lucky to have such a caring, understanding, supportive husband. I am VERY blessed myself. Good luck and hang in there. 

    Suzanne E.

  • Julia257
    Julia257 Member Posts: 284
    edited March 2010

    Truly heart-wrenching Lesinindy, I'm so sorry.  I can only offer my hopes and prayers that this miserable journey has the happiest ending.  It's been in God's hands since day 1, hold on to optimistic, positive energy.

    barb_k, I'm so sorry for your loss.  Wishing you long life and the best of good health.  That was really funny about your husbands hair.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Mornin' all, the birds are having a party outside!  Having tea & oatmeal, feel good.

    barb - anniversaries can be hard so your chemo start date's a tough one!  {{hugs}}

    les - thanks for sharing that, yeah you guys are in a catch-22 situation!  Are you feeling any physical side effects?   I wonder if there's such a thing as second-hand chemo. 

    welcome also undecided and hereandnow to a great club you never wanted to join!

    My second tx got moved up from Tues 3/30 to Fri 3/26 so DH can't go that day.  He has Mon & Tues off work and I had the choice of Tues or Weds for tx's so chose Tues.  But he says it's good to know what's going to happen.

    Well the birds have calmed down a little, just noticed the absence of the Phil Spector-like "wall of sound" lol.  Hope you all have a good day, my thoughts and prayers are with you my sisters and brothers!  {{hugs}}

  • staceyt
    staceyt Member Posts: 106
    edited March 2010

    Good Morning March Ladies - and HELLO to the newbies.

    EZH - No, I haven't had a blood count, - I only go in to have my picc line cleaned once a week.  My next treatment is also the 23rd and they going to check my counts before they start.  All and all I feel pretty good, I went back to work Monday and manage to get a whole week in.  As long as I eat something small every 2 hrs my nausea stays at bay.  Dragged my DH to the mall to shop yesterday, (EZH Lovemygardens I also am in NY) had a melt down on Friday, I've been wearing his shirts because of the picc line and I just lost it couldn't stop crying, his shirts, 1 boob bigger than the other, acne (feel like I'm going thru puberty not chemo) and just blah.  So shopping I went bought myself blouses and shirts and feel a little better now.  I noticed this morning that my hair is starting to fall out (faster) for those of you who are already there - did you just take the plunge and have it shaved or did you wait to see whether you would lose it all?  The funny part of this is that my hair is already curly and I couldn't imagine it coming back in any curlier, I'd love to keep the strawberry blond color though.  I actually have to get a perm in the summer to relax my tight curls in the humidity.

    My prayers are with all who start this week - just remember you will get through it and this board of ladies is the best place to vent, share, or just tell us how you are doing. - Stacey

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Stacey - I have a co-worker who's pregnant and we share many traits:

    * we both carry around food at all times to ward off nausea

    * we both believe our mental capacity is slightly diminished

    * we both pack meds for constipation, diarrhea, and heartburn

    * we are both off certain food and drink (coffee) we used to love

    * we both have food cravings

    * we both have sore feet

    * we both have slight swelling of the ankles esp when we've been on our feet too much

    * neither of us will have a period for the foreseeable future

    * didn't notice it yet but yeah I bet we'll both get acne...puberty again!?!  Surprised 

  • lovemygarden
    lovemygarden Member Posts: 342
    edited May 2010

    Groundhog: I'm envious of your birdsong! I think all of ours are still trying to dry off their feathers from the horrible weather we had yesterday.



    And wouldn't you know it, I still have NO tv signal! Was hoping that it was just from the high winds and rain but still nothing this morning after the wind and rain have ended. Which means the dish either got damaged or got knocked off its "aim" or whatever. Which means that now I'll have to call Dish Network for a service call which I have no idea how I will fit in between my last 2 days of Pre-Chemo Appointments before Wednesday.



    Being TV-less while going through chemo's aftermaths is definitely NOT an option!!!!



  • momand2kids
    momand2kids Member Posts: 1,508
    edited March 2010

    Dear all

    greetings from the January 2009 group.  I wish all the best as you head through treatment. Know that you can do it- it can be challenging, but you CAN do it.  I am a year away from my last treatment with a full head of hair and feeling great.  There is light at the end of this tunnel, I promise!!!!!

  • frosty1
    frosty1 Member Posts: 420
    edited March 2010

    Groundhog - laughed out loud at your comparisons!  I agree totally -- I feel like I'm back in my first trimester.  I am 12 days out from #1 and actually felt almost normal yesterday and today.  Had my little wig party and stayed up to 11pm. 

    If you haven't heard of it, CaringBridge offers a place to post about how you are doing, get notes back from friends, and post pictures.  I decided to do one as many friends were asking how I was doing.  This way friends and family from everywhere can check in.  I'm copying my site here so you can see how it works:  http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/brendafrost.

    Les - how hard for you.  It seems that you are on a path of if it can go wrong it will.  Take heart.  It does get better.  But it will get worse.  How's that for optimism!?!  Keep us posted and know we are sending strong positive thoughts your way.

    Stacy - I had my long-time hair dresser shave my head last week.  I just couldn't face it coming out in chunks.  That felt more tramatic than the shaved head.  Since then I've been out and about (my hair is about 1/4" long now) and haven't had any comments.  We'll see what happens when it is completely gone.

    Welcome Melanie36, Hereandnow and Barb-k!  We are a great group to be part of!

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Feel free to add to the list, I'm sure there are LOTS more.  For example:

    * we both are forbidden from alcohol and aspirin

    * we both have increased sensitivity to taste and smell

    * we both are likely to gain weight irrespective of our actual food consumption

    * her hair thinned with baby #1 and her DH is balding so there's nioxin in the house

    (OK full disclosure on that -- I don't have any nioxin yet but plan to...) Smile

  • barb_k
    barb_k Member Posts: 76
    edited March 2010

    Les I read your post and can relate to your feeling about nn privacy. I went through it with my husband at the veterans center. Although every one was very nice there is no privacy. I want to commend you on your cargiving you seem to be doing great. I've been there on your side now I am on the other side. Keep up the post and good support.

  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited March 2010

    Hey all - best wishes and prayers for everyone having first tx next week. You can do it!  {{hugs}}

  • lovemygarden
    lovemygarden Member Posts: 342
    edited May 2010

    Ditto what groundhog said!! :-)



    Wow, I just looked up at the sticky and realized we have FOUR gals starting tomorrow. Are the oncologists running a big sale on the stuff or what?!







  • sarikasd
    sarikasd Member Posts: 31
    edited March 2010

    Hello Ladies, Its good to know that everyone is doing pretty well.  Today was my day 4 after round #1 and I must say, each day has been different.  I am noticing more fatigue and a kind of restlessness also accompanied by it.  Is anyone else experiencing the same thing.  I  went out for some time in the evening but I didnt have the energy to stand in the grocery store.  I dont know if this is the effect of taking compazine but I need that to  keep the nausea down.  Maybe the coming week will be good.

  • Taty98328
    Taty98328 Member Posts: 27
    edited March 2010

    Hello Ladies, is anyone already got Neulasta shot? I remember, my onc.told me I`ll have this shot day after chemo, but i never did, are they forgot about it? Last week a had a blood test and my white cells was low, that is why a got thrush in the mouth just two days after chemo :(, yesterday thrush was gone, but today a have a cold:). Immune sistem so weak, take good care of yourself Ladies!!! I didn`t have nausea. Today was my day 11 after chemo and a`m filling very good.

    Sarikasd- on my day 4 a was in the bed/sofa all day long, very fatique.

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