what do you wear when exercising?
I don't wear a bra or foobs when exercising at home but I do wear foobs at the gym. (The gym is at my work and I run into colleagues there.)
I'm having a difficult time finding a comfortable bra + foob combo. I like wearing foam prostheses to the gym but the bra that is the most comfortable rides up without the weight of silicone. I'm worried about damaging silicone at the gym. These were $$$ and I can't afford to replace them. I do yoga (including stomach poses), hi/lo, step, and bodysculpt classes.
Do you exercise in silicone?
Have you ever damaged a foob (silicone or otherwise) at the gym?
What is your favorite workout bra?
Thanks!!
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I don't know that I have a good solution. I'm not sure if you can hurt silicone foobs. I am a bilat DDD and my foobs are heavy and tend to bounce a lot which is a different problem. I tried the Jodee Permaform bra as the foobs are built into the bra. The cups do have some weight, but it tends to ride up. I have tried one band size smaller and it helps but is very very tight and not to comfortable.
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I am also 'top heavy'(DD), but I found that wearing a tube top that is snuggy tends to help me. I don't wear my foobs when I do inclining treadmill due to the fear also of damaging and I find other types of workouts that are better.
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I don't use forms when exercising - too hot.
The one advantage of having had a mx is that I don't have to deal with breasts when exercising ever again. No more bouncing, no more feeling like they will smother me when I do shoulder stands.
Frani, you can puncture silcone foobs. They are not gauranteed against such damage.
Michele, I know you said that the gym you go to is connected to your work, but I suspect that most people wouldn't notice or care if you went flat there.
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Michele,
Maybe I'm repeating myself (I know I've written about this elsewhere), but I love my Still You Tank Tops--they're really camisoles with pockets and adjustable straps.They are so soft and I wear them with my foam forms to exercise. I wear them under a tee shirt, though they could be worn alone. I've worn them on long hikes as well as at the gym. Almost any unweighted form would work with the Still You Tank.
I find this solution totally non-constricting, almost as good as lisa-e's solution of going form-free (which I do at home). Feels as if I have nothing on but gives me a nice shape.
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Lisa-e, I never thought about puncturing a foob. I would be mortified to be seen in public without my foobs. Must be a vanity thing with me. Erica, where did you buy the Still You Tank Top?. Do they ride up with foam forms
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franie,
You can buy the Still You Tank Top directly from Still You: http://stillyoufashions.stores.yahoo.net/products.html. It's also available from some other online websites, like Women's Personal Health Resource. It never rides up on me. Once I put it on and position it the way I like, it stays that way all day. I've recently started wearing mine with Still You fiber filled forms--unweighted, smooth, non-lumpy, and softer than foam forms.
While it is possible to puncture a foob, it's not that easy and I wouldn't think exercise would be much of a risk. Once, when I was trying to insert my breast form into a bra with a very small pocket opening, I dug my fingernail in and it punctured. Since I'd just bought it, the fitter was kind enough to use the warranty and replace it for me. While I waited for the replacement to arrive, I just put some Scotch tape over the puncture and it was fine.
If you haven't checked the Breast Forms and Bras and Camisoles sections of my non-profit website, BreastFree.org, you might want to take a look. I try to recommend the most comfortable (and attractive) options I and other women have found.
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I don't know if it is different for those who have had a bilat. mast. I had a single mast. so I always wear a form, except when I am sleeping. I use the swim form when exercising. It seems to fit the best in a sports bra. I have 3 favorite sports bras: The first is the Naturalwear G330. I have it in gray and love the color. I have also used the Anita sports bra-comes in white. Not sure what the style number is. But my new favorite is the Anita sports bra- style 5527. The one I have is mostly gray, with black edges and also has some orange around the cup. I love the way it looks and feels. I am sure it is psychological but I always have my best runs in that bra.
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I wore my silicone foob without any difficulty on elypical and during yoga classes etc and it was fine. Then I discovered a great product; Been-a-boob. It is essentially a bean bag, made of little silicone pellets. It is moldable so when you place it in a sports bra it compresses like your real boob. It is inexpensive ($55Canadian) and they have sports bras and tanks too. You can swim in it too. I loved it until I had recon. I even wore it some days instead of my regular prostheses.
The women who develped it is a breast cancer survivor and a Dragonboat member.
I don't know their website but the company name is Janac Sportswear.
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I also love the Still You camisoles. It's the only thing I wear that is soft enough for my radiated skin. I wear it even though I have had reconstruction. You can buy them on Amazon. They are pricey; but the only thing that makes me feel good.
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I'm really wanting to buy a still you camisole. But, I'm nervous about spending that much $ without trying one on 1st.
Barbara and lava~ What forms have you worn yours with. I see that Barbara has worn hers with the still you forms but have you tried any others?
Carol~ I'm drooling over the Anita bra. Do you think it would ride up for someone who had a bilat? I wish I could find a local retailer... I would like to try it on 1st!
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Michele,
Some fitters do carry Still You. I first saw them at the Friends Boutique at Dana Farber Hospital in Boston. If you order online, you can return it if you didn't like it. You'd have to pay return shipping, but since the camisole is so light, it could easily be shipped back in a lined envelope, so that wouldn't cost too much.
The Still You Tank Tops are expensive, but they hold up quite well. I machine wash mine, but then air dry it. The ones I bought over three years ago are still going strong.
Still You recommends wearing the cami with its Illusions forms. I've tried that, but find they droop a little. I prefer wearing the Still You Fiber Pads or Amoena 126 Leisure forms. I also recently tried the new ABC 916 Memory Foam breast form and that works great, too. Virtually any unweighted or extremely lighweight form should work.
Regarding trying on products, of course that's the best if you can find them locally. I've resigned myself to ordering some things online and returning them if they don't work out. I would never order a mastectomy product online unless I knew I could return it. Doing this has paid off for me. My favorite bra is an Anita bra (recommended by Carol--the Nastasja) that I ordered online and that I've never found at a local shop.
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Sorry, don't know what forms the camisoles work with. I machine wash mine and air dry. I've had mine for 2 years and they look fairly new. I did find my first one at a local shop. Sorry, I don't know about returning them; but Erica says you can.
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Erica, you have a great site there! I have a question for you and others about the Still You bra, though. Although the straps look thin (which is great) the top edge of the cups sections looks like it goes up pretty high. The mastectomy bra I bought (see my post about "workable solution for bra/port conflict") is the Classique #769 but as I explained in that post, that strap still hits the side of my port which makes it too uncomfortable for me to wear. I like the straps on the Still You, but the other issue is that if the cup part is too "high" (the top edge of the Classique front JUST barely touches the lower edge of my port) that would hurt also. Do you know if the top edge of a 34A Still You bra comes up higher than the top edge of a 34A Classique 769?
I have the removable fiberfill forms from the Amoena Hannah post-surgical cami that I could put into the Still You bra; I'm just looking for a couple of appropriate bulges underneath out-in-public spring and summer tops, is all.
After my port comes out in a year or so, I'll be able to wear the Classique but unfortunately not until then because it's just not worth the discomfort vis-a-vis the port area. If only the surgeon had put the darn thing in about another 1/2" toward my 'center'!! **&*&%$#!!!! -
lovemygarden,
I have the Classique 769. It's a very nice bra, so once your port is out you'll hopefully enjoy wearing it. However, I realize you still have a long way to go before then. The Still You Tank Top isn't a bra. It's a camisole with pockets, very soft and totally non-constricting. If you check the picture on the Still You website, you can see that it's a completely different shape than a bra--it looks just like a classic camisole, with adjustable spaghetti straps. It's about as soft as anything you'll find, but I think you'd just have to try it to see if it bothers your port. Most online retailers will allow you to return it if it doesn't work.
Regarding what forms to wear with it, personally I don't like the look of the puffy fiberfill forms that come with the post-surgical camis--they tend to appear lumpy and unnatural, on me at least. I prefer a more molded-looking form, like the Still You Fiber Filled Pad or the Amoena Leisure foam form, Style 126. TLC (the American Cancer Society site) also sells several foam forms at affordable prices. When I wear the Still You Tank Top with any of these forms, it looks very natural, even under a tight-fitting tee.
Barbara
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Hi Barbara/Erica (sorry for the name confusion; is it Erica as in "heathers"? ;-) ) -- Actually my question was about the Still You Bra (http://stillyoufashions.stores.yahoo.net/stillbra.html), not the Still You Camisole. I'm looking for something to wear during the spring and summer without having to add a second layer of clothing which is what a camisole would do. I want to be able to wear just a bra and a top, rather than a camisole and a top.
But because that Still You Bra looks (from the photo at least) as if the front/cup section comes up high ... of course it's impossible to tell without a photo of it actually on a person, drat it! .... I was wondering if it does indeed come up higher than the Classique 769 or whether it's just the photo making it look so, well, "big and chunky". It does look (to me anyway) more like a sports bra design than a normal bra, with those wide-looking sides and front -- almost like it's midway between a bra and a mini-cami. But again that could just be the type of photo. I wish I could find a photo of it actually being worn by a model!
Also, one of the Google links from "Still You Bra" says that this is a "step-in" bra, although none of the other sites mention that. Does it really not have any hooks?? In that case I wouldn't want it, but you'd think that if it was a step-in, it would be mentioned on the manufacturer's site.
I found another site with some Classique bras on sale and noticed their #740 which appears from the photo to have a narrow strap. Are you familiar with that model? http://www.womanspersonalhealth.com/bras/back-closure-bras/classique-bra-sale-going-now
The sale bras are "no returns" so even at $20 each I'm hesitating a little (no insurance). Looking at the different models including my #769, I'm wondering if the shop gal was fibbing when she said that one has the "narrowest" straps because a couple of those other Classique models sure do look like theirs are thinner than the 769's....
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Sorry, lovemygarden, I should have taken your question literally, since I do own a Still You bra. Yes, it is a step-in bra, so I guess it isn't what you're looking for. It's made of the same material as the camisole and it does come up pretty high. It's still a very unstructured garment, so not really constricting. BUT for me, it doesn't work well. The bra used to be made with the same soft edging as the camisole, but the design was changed and now it has elastic edging, which I find uncomfortable, and I don't have the port issue you have! Also, it can only support unweighted or very lightweight breast forms. I asked the woman who runs the company about why they changed the design and she said other customers had requested a more finished look. I don't think this accomplishes that, plus I find it uncomfortable, which is why I don't recommend the bra on my website.
If you don't mind the step-in aspect too much, though, perhaps it's worth a try, since it could probably be returned.
I haven't tried the Classique 740. I have tried a couple of other Classique bras and haven't liked them as much as the 769. Sadly, sometimes fitters will try to steer you toward what they have in stock. I hope that wasn't true in your case, but I agree that it appears that some other Classique bras have narrower straps.
Some of my favorite bras are by Anita (http://www.metromedicalonline.com/mastectomy-products--anita-bras.html). The Nastasja #5362 is my favorite. It's a smaller overall shape, though I don't know if the straps would be in the right place for you.
If you live near a Nordstrom's, they will normally sew pockets into any regular bra you purchase there, so that would give you a much bigger range of choices. Or you can order pockets online and simply sew them in yourself. The TLC website (listed in my Helpful Links section) sells such pockets, as do other sites.
Good luck. I'm hopeful there's something out there that will work for you.
Barbara
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Barbara, thanks so much for the "inside info" on the Still You bra; you're right, it's definitely not something that would work for me and I understand why it's not one of the items you include on your site!
I called my local mastectomy shop and asked about the Classique 740; the gal there said that was one of the bras she'd given me to try on during my fitting and I didn't like it. After she mentioned it I did recall her bringing out another Classique model and looking at the 740 picture again I realized she was 100% right about that. I probably tried on a half dozen bras that day and the 769 was the only one that felt comfortable on me, although I'm not crazy about the snug fit... she said I "absolutely need" a 34 even though after wearing a 36 for the past several years the 34 feels constricting. But she insisted that what I found "comfortable" was not the proper fit for a mastectomy bra which must not only fit very snug around the chest but the breastforms must also fit tightly into the bra pockets. That's how I ended up with an Amoena size 4 form and a 34A Classique 769 bra.
I really like that Nastaja #5362 you linked to!! The straps are definitely narrower than the Classique 769 and it looks as though the cup shape might work too. If the bottom "band" area is as stretchy and comfortable as the 769, it might be perfect. I think I'm going to order one and cross fingers that the fit is as good as it looks on the photo... looks like it's cut low under the arms too, which is another plus. And it's on sale now too! Thanks so much for your help! -
One reason I like the Nastasja so much is that it's cut low under the arms.
Very interesting conversation about your fitter. I absolutely do not agree with her blanket statement that a mastectomy bra must fit very snugly. Over time, I've realized that I feel best (and therefore look best) in bras that are NOT constricting. My chest is more sensitive than it used to be and the last thing I want is some bra that's too tight. I was a 34 before and I'm a 34 now. And, while I want my breast forms to fill out the cups of my bra, I don't feel I have to squeeze the form into the cup at all. Your fitter may be terrific, but I emphatically believe that we're all different. Perhaps for you, once the port is removed at least, a tight bra will feel good, but for others like me, it's the last thing I could tolerate. I wear my 34s on the loosest hook and I never have a problem with them riding up.
One of the things I really believe is that non-reconstruction is a process, just like reconstruction. Most of us have to go through some trial and error before we find the things that work for us. Fortunately, most products are returnable, so it doesn't have to wind up costing a fortune to experiment.
Barbara
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The sensitivity issue is one that I did bring up to her for sure, because I've always had sensitive skin before and now after the surgery even more so. I had to stop wearing the Amoena Hannah post-surgical camisole because my skin was reacting to the Aloe and Vitamin E that's in their fabric, and now I just wear a longsleeve or short-sleeve 100% cotton voile button-down shirt next to my skin and under a cardigan (it's still chilly where I live).
The fitter was really obsessive about the breastform having to fit into the bra cup 100% completely so that there are absolutely no wrinkles that might show under my clothes. I did tell her that 95% of my tops are prints, not solids, and that I really do not care one bit if my apparent boobs/bra isn't a 100% smooth surface... but she kept saying that it's all part of getting the proper fit without the forms moving around or the back riding up. I was always midway between and A and a B cup but when I tried a "B" form, it looked too big for me ... so I went with the A. But I will admit that when I did wear a 36 bra, which felt comfortable on me, they always rode up in the back and I wondered why! Ooopsy.
After all the back-and-forth about the "proper fit" (me saying I didn't like the tightness and her saying that anything looser would be the wrong fit) I ended up taking the 34 bra and mentally deciding that if I get really annoyed with the fit I will just buy a pair of those bra-extenders to convert it to a 36! It just wasn't worth the hassle, especially since they are the only mastectomy boutique where I live (they have 3 locations but it's all the same company) and the department stores either don't carry mastectomy bras or they just have regular salesclerks who are clueless about them.
You mentioned not having to squeeze the form into the bra pocket, so I have a silly question: Is it "normal" for some of the outer (underarm) part of the breastform's triangle to stick out of the pocket opening, even though the rest of the form is in its proper place? Because that's how they end up when put inside my 769. Just curious, because from a comfort point of view I would think that having fabric between every part of the silicone surface and one's skin would be optimal, but maybe that's the way all pockets are designed? -
That's not the way all pockets are designed. Although I like that Classique bra, I believe the pocket openings are too small and also that it leaves the underarm end of the form sticking out too much. That's why I wondered about your squeezing your size-4 form into the 769 A cup. I wear a 34B in that bra, and the form I use is with it is a size 4, yet a little of the form still sticks out. With a 34A, it would be ridiculously tight and sticking out way too much. My Anita bras go into the pocket much more easily and don't leave any silicone sitting against my skin.
If you're looking for another option in fitters, do any of your local hospitals have breast care boutiques? I was treated in the Boston area. There's a mastectomy boutique with several locations which I've been to, but I generally prefer the Friends Boutique at the Dana Farber hospital (not where I was treated, but anyone can go there). The fitter there really listens and is very open to new ideas. When I showed her my Anita Tritex form with microfiber back, she loved it, even though it wasn't something she normally carried.
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Unfortunately there are only 2 local hospitals that have breast care boutiques and this same company is who runs them. They have 3 locations, one in two local hospitals and then the storefront location which is the one I went to. I first went to the one of the hospital ones because it's close to where I live, but was completely turned off by their space (it felt like an overgrown closet) and the saleswoman/fitter who worked there. Their other hospital location is about 40 miles away and not at all convenient to get to. So I went to their storefront location which at least is a normal size, and not too far way (about 20 miles). But that's the sum total of the in-person boutiques where I live.
The funny part is that the original bra she tried on me was a 34B and I thought it was fine cupwise but the fitter kept insisting that the Size 4 form was too small because the outside of the cup "should not have any wrinkles in it" after the form was inserted, because the wrinkles would be visible under my tops. I kept telling her I didn't care about that but she insisted on ordering in the A cup #769 instead, which she didn't have in stock at the time. When I went back to get those she said that it was now "correct" (that the bra cup fit 100% tightly over the form). I did ask whether the form ends should stick out so much but she said they are "all like that". Apparantly not, and I thank you for the tip!
I just started a new thread about forms because I am really questioning the so-called necessity for the silicone ones for me. I'm now also questioning my choice of bra, and am wondering if I should also say I want to exchange the A cup for the B cup that I originally tried on. I'm wondering too if the tightness overall would be a bit less with the B cup bra than with the A in that model? -
I would think that the tightness would be less. With mastectomy bras, as well as with regular bras, I believe the general rule of thumb is that 34B=36A, etc. So your 34A may feel more like a 32B than a 34B. It sounds, though, as if you should look for a different bra. You shouldn't have to put up with wrinkling in the cups, even if it doesn't bother you much. Many other bras have stretchy cups that can accommodate a variety of forms.
The issues you're facing remind me how challenging it was at first to figure out what worked for me. One thing that helped was talking with an acquaintance who'd had a bilateral mastectomy eight years earlier. She had been fitted for silicone breast forms but just didn't like wearing them and decided she preferred wearing the Amoena Style 126 Leisure forms (which are unweighted foam forms) in a regular Bali bra. She's quite an elegant dresser and always looks lovely. The forms don't feel soft and natural like silicone, but they give a nice shape and unless you touched her "breasts" you wouldn't know the difference. Talking with her before my surgery was very heartening--she was a great role model for someone who felt happy without reconstruction and who chose the forms that felt best to her, not what the "expert" fitters told her she should wear.
Do you have a Nordstrom's anywhere in your area? I've heard that their fitters are good, although they only sell Amoena products. And they'll sew pockets in any of their regular bras. Might be worth a try. Also, some of the women who run online sites are knowledgeable and happy to talk with you about options. For ideas about which sites, see the Helpful Links section at BreastFree.org.
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Take a look at the following website --- www.janacsportswear.ca A lady on a different thread said she bought the prosthesis from there ($55) to use when she swims. I ordered a couple today to try. (They are NOT just for swimming, by the way.) They also sell exercise sportsbras. (The site was started by a BC survivor.) Just another option to look at.
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